Ask Us Anything 253: Hard Times Create [Blank]? Getting Hired Without a Degree? Anti-Federalist Papers?

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1:02and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show hour two. It's our ask us anything hour. We take your questions. If you want to participate, go to members dot Charlie Kirk dot com. Become a subscriber. You help us keep the lights on. We give all kinds of great benefits to our members. So please check that out. Members dot Charlie Kirk dot com. And I just want to say welcome, Mikey McCoy. I'm just glad to be here. I'm happy to be here. I'm just happy to be here too. I've been I've been traveling this weekend. I was under the weather. Just happy to just happy. It's the best feeling when you finally get home. I was so exhausted last night. You could probably still hear it in my voice. Anyways, I wanted to get two quick notes before we get to questions here. One is that Karen Taylor Robeson has dropped out of the gubernatorial primary on the Republican side here in Arizona. Okay. I was like, can I clap at that? Yeah. She actually she put out a very nice note.

2:05Basically saying that, you know, she made this very difficult decision because we didn't want to have inviting on the conservative side. And then we need to unite and win. And that was it was very gracious. I think she's going to score a lot of points with the conservative base in Arizona and certainly with us at turning point. So that's exciting because we didn't know that was coming, but Andy Biggs is now has a clear primary path. And that's exciting because he's going to be the next governor of the state of Arizona. Something Charlie was very focused on and we are going to remain very focused on as well. I got to take care of Katie. Oh, you know what? This is fun. So we have this great image. I have to show it. It is in. Let me find it. It's what number is it guys? The they put out basically Katie Hobbs put out a note. Here it is. Basically an email after this happened saying that she is now up against Katie's billionaire opponent just dropped out, making Donald Trump and turning point actions, hand pick candidate, Andy Biggs, the front runner and the Republican primary.

3:06That is great. I mean, thank you for the advertisement Katie Hobbs. Thank you for the press release. And I guess this is just multiple, multiple emails talking about turning point action and how she's up against us. Okay. You know, how about your up against the voters, the conservative voters that want you out. But anyway, so that's fun. And then the second thing is we got inflation numbers back today. They came in better than expected. It was predicted to be at 2.7%. A percent inflation came in at 2.4, 2.4. So very, very good stuff there. We have our first question. It sounds like Kelsey. Kelsey, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Unmute yourself if you can. Hi guys. Thank you for taking my call. So many of us know that famous I think it's pronounced hop quote, good times, create week men, week men, create hard times, hard times create strong men, strong men, create good times. Charlie talked a lot about God's designs of distinctions, especially male female. And in our overly feminized culture, netcators and craters to women's demands for comfort and sensitivity.

4:14I've been wondering if there's like a parallel hop inspired quote, but for women and would love maybe your thoughts and ideas on that. Make one up. I'd have to make one. So hop is unfortunate. He's not a philosopher. He's actually he's a science fiction author. I was I was actually very surprised to find that out that like it sounds like a very old quote or like that would be classic. It's from a 2016 novel that Jean Michael hopp wrote. So I actually now have his quotes, pay Joe phone on good reads to see if there's anything else. Like there's other. It's very funny. Some of the other quotes they have one of them is just fairer day boxes, which is probably not a quote that she's looking for. But big picture. Let's try to think on that like. Well, you know, it's true. Maybe think of was we just had her on Helen Andrews. Yeah. She's talking about over feminized culture and basically how we hit a tipping point at some point between 2015 and let's say 2022 in different industries that became majority female.

5:15And then and then the train goes off the off the road trying to think is there is there a kind of cyclical quote you could come up with for for women. I almost want to throw that at you Kelsey. If you have any thoughts that come to mind big families create strong women. That strong women find big families annoying. So their daughters have small family small families create feminists feminists destroy the country. I don't know something like that. ChatTBT hard times create resilient women resilient women build strong families. It's basically what you guys said. It's great. But then strong families indulge weak women. I don't know because you have to have the cycle to it has to circle back. It's an interesting question. I mean what I would think of whatever you were going to come up with. You think of what are core themes with women like women are are more nurturing also what Charlie would talk about the women are very much a norm enforcer group. They're often the people who uphold the rules of society. And so that's one reason we've seen feminism drive a lot of things. Hey, why are women young women are fed a bad life script.

6:26It makes them unhappy. It also encourages them to enforce really bad rules on people. It's the it's the school marm or the church lady. That's the idiom they'll use even for a woman who hasn't been to church in her entire life or since she was a kid. The ones who are showing up to scream at you to nag you to say like, oh, you have to care. You have to have the BLM square. You have to support trans kids or the people who are showing up to block ice cars. Those are people who in a different context if they were raised with a better script. They might be saying, oh, you can't you can't cheat on your spouse. Like you're you're living with your mistress. You're not allowed to do that. Stop drinking so much. That could be really annoying too. But it was for a pro social a good thing, whereas now they're activated on an evil thing. And so I think if you were going to get the equivalent, quote, whatever it is, you'd have to capture that element of things. And Charlie, yeah, Charlie also broke broke down the difference between the macro and the micro, right?

7:27Women really tend to major on on the micro, which would would be sort of interpersonal relationships and men tend to think about, you know, business deals and negotiations. It's not that they don't work both ways or that, you know, men, men oftentimes will fixate on relationships too, but it just in the general in the in the larger context that tends to be more true than not. And we'd also talk about how we need to have a proper balance of the masculine and feminine. So healthy society has a proper balance of masculine and feminine and men are given a role which they can thrive in women are given a role which they can thrive in. And when you get on an unhealthy balance, and this is what Helen Andrews is talking about, we have a clip from her if we want to let's do it. Let's play five seventy one. But if you want to put it in a single sentence, you could say that feminization equals wokeness. Everything you think of as wokeness is simply an epiphenomenon of demographic feminization. Think about all the things that wokeness means, valuing empathy over rationality, safety over risk, conformity and cohesion over competition and hierarchy.

8:39All of these things are privileging the feminine over the masculine. So if you have ever wondered why wokeness appeared out of nowhere when it did, that is my hypothesis that all of the institutions that began admitting women in the 1970s eventually got enough women that they were able to reorient them. And as you said, it's balanced that matters. So those things like empathy over rationality or safety over risk, that's not actually just a bad thing necessarily, but you think of where would be an environment where you would want to, for example, prize cohesion over competition, where would you want inclusion over free speech. I can think of an obvious spot in a family, in a family, you sometimes have to say, you just need to be quiet because you're upsetting all of your siblings. In a family, we need safety. We're not recklessly doing dangerous things in a family. Sometimes we're not fully rational. We have to care about loving each other above everything that works in a family. And you need to cultivate that. But it's out of balance. Yeah, it's out of balance. If you're big institutions of society or that because all of society is not the family.

9:47Well, think about the military. You would basically flip all of those. You would want rationality over empathy. You would want risk over safety. Well, maybe most of the time. But you have to take risks in wartime. You'd want competition. You would want, you would value the best getting to the top, the most lethal, the most courageous, the most competent in business. You're not going to innovate if your priority is just inclusion over free speech. Absolutely. Every day, Americans make choices that shape our country's future right down to which cell phone provider we support. Here's what most people don't realize. Patriot mobile isn't just a wireless provider. They're an activist organization funded by selling top tier cell phone service. They've been on the front lines defending our freedoms long before it was cool to do so. Standing in the gap when others wouldn't the best part is they deliver prioritized premium service on all three major US networks giving you the same or even better coverage backed by 100% US base customer support.

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11:48And then I think of the second Timothy three women, who's like very influenced by the evil of the day. And it says like the evil people gain control over weak willed women who are loaded down with sins and swayed by evil desires. Always learning, but never able to acknowledge the truth day. So maybe like peaceful times create equal women, equal women create hard times, hard times create noble women, noble time create peaceful times. That's great. I like Andrew's going to tweet that. I always learning, but never willing to acknowledge the truth. Just thinking of the little too many grad degrees. I mean, listen, I have like 14 examples in my mind as soon as she started talking about that. Yeah, well, listen, that was well done. And so thank you for for that. And thank you for calling in. And I think we have Anthony next. Anthony, welcome back to the show. What's up, guys? Hey, man, you're becoming quite the regular. Yeah, I noticed that myself actually Blake as I'm swamped to work today.

12:58Any subscribers could be a regular, by the way, like we have a lot of you, but we have a lot of you. We know we have a bunch of you in the call, but a lot of them don't necessarily raise your hand to like raise your hand. Ask the questions. You can ask us. Be more like Anthony. You can ask. You could ask me what my favorite teenage mutant internal is if you wanted to. Yeah, we're going to pass on that one, Blake. So here's Mike. So here's my question, guys. We see two styles of the GOP party. We have the old regime and it even goes down into the local communities. And we have the new style. So I went to my counties, GOP meeting this or committee meeting to pick our who's running for office for local elections and Congress and state and stuff. It's all the same old cronies. I'm sorry to use that term, but it's it's in what I saw is I asked someone who I know they're very well. If any of these people win in the answer I was told was no, because they don't want to change the way they do stuff.

14:02And they just keep recycling the same style of campaign and whatnot. Like the communications person for our thing. They sat on the stage and took photos from behind when people were giving their speeches saying, hey, thank you for picking me to be your nominee. How do we fix this? Because it's never any. Are you talking about like local positions within like county GOP or something like that? Yeah, but we so my county is also a district for Congress. Okay, so we so we had to nominate our person that's going to go against the Democrat candidate. So it's district 25. So even that we had to do that one plus because New York stage changed the elections to now everything's on the federal years for every election. So like how do you get the old party to start letting the new party come in the work things to make it better to try to win? Yeah, you know, this is a huge problem. I've talked about this with Tyler Boyer a lot.

15:03So if you go to like a local county GOP, you will you will come in and there's people that have been there for years, like decades. And these guys have never missed a meeting. They're usually, you know, kind of your gray hair and this is kind of what they live for. And what we've noticed is that when younger people come into these meetings and they feel, I mean, they're a very, it's like high school. It's like you got mean girls, you got clicks, you got like everybody hates one faction versus the other faction. We saw this. I want a great example. A great example is the Nebraska legislature when we were trying to get them to win or take off. And it was just such Charlie was venting about this that you get people who when you're almost in when you're in a system that has existed. It's like a little closed off from everyone like who's going into Nebraska politics usually. So it shortens your time. It shortens your like horizon basically. You stop looking at the national picture. You stop looking at big trends and you start fixating on. Oh, I've known the same people for a long time. I have my grievances with this person. I'm friends with this person.

16:07Often for reasons that aren't what would normally drive political alliances, very personal. And you get really homed in on that. And that can happen at your county GOP level. Oh, I'm with this person because I feuded with this person over who was running for counting. No, it's it's even like who was who was a treasurer or like, you know, how we're going to how we're going to do like like tabling or signups for I mean the most petty stuff I've seen at the local GOP level. It's really sad. And then young people come in and they feel completely alienated. Yeah, they don't want anything to do with it because it feels like a completely like different world. And it feels unrelated to current events. Yeah, that's the biggest thing too that I've seen is young people. It's like you brought up the Nebraska thing. Charlie's this young guy. He comes in trying to push the winner take all narrative and Nebraska and change what has been Nebraska's, you know, norm. We've done it this way before and there is literally one guy. I won't forget this. Like do you remember this? There's one guy and he was like 70 something.

17:07And he was like he had been part of the legislature there for, you know, 30 years. I'm not changing. I'm not changing. I just you're just a young buck. What do you know that I don't? Like you don't know Nebraska. Well, and it's the little victims of power so that they don't realize how insignificant and how irrelevant. Sort of their little feet to miss, but yet they're willing to sort of create a bunch of enemies and dig their heels in on the most irrelevant stuff. I also think there's a third faction of the GOP that's being born. You have like the old guard and then this new guard, which, you know, like the rhinos and omega. And I think there's a third, which is like, it's very interesting. It's like the new right people that just don't care anymore. And they think everything's rigged and everything's fake. And they don't want to vote like they don't want to get vote. They don't want to get engaged in politics. And I think this is going to be a heroism. The nihilism. Yeah, but I see I see to my local area actually there's somebody I know he has two sons are both voting age.

18:07One refuses to vote on any election. Yeah, well, it's a huge problem. How do we fix it? You have to you have to well listen, culture. That's a that's a that's a big thing. First, first of all, you need to make sure people have a belief that things can get better. And that your voice matters and that your vote matters. And that's a huge, huge deal. One of the reasons why we need pass a save act, for example. Hey, everyone. We're excited to tell you about Charlie's favorite supplement. If you experience brain fog, low energy, frequent illnesses, or if you just wake up stiff and achy every day, you've got to try strong cell. Charlie took it every single day. He frequently talked about it on the show and he even traveled around the country bringing it with him. For Charlie, strong cell helped keep his mind sharp and focused for all the debates he was engaged in. Strong cell gives clean, natural energy without jitters, weird spikes, or afternoon crashes. It makes you feel like a younger version of yourself. People would often ask Charlie, what is strong cell exactly? Strong cell uses a proprietary delivery of any DH to make sure it goes straight to your cells to help your mitochondria.

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21:16One of the best sort of outgrowths of Turning Point Action. It wasn't necessarily something that we planned. But we have Turning Point Action, for example, in all 10 technical swing states, which includes Iowa, which hasn't really true swing state for a while. But what we found is that when we go into these places, we get a lot of young people. We get a lot of fresh blood because we have a different brand. It's a different kind of, we attract different types of people. And then what happens is we end up inevitably working or partnering with local GOPs. And we then therefore inject all this new blood. Now in a state like New York, which I believe you're in, Anthony. Right. It hasn't been a focus. So we don't have as big of a presence there. But just creating an outside group, like kind of having this third party outside group that's very friendly, very affiliated. But it has a whole different energy, a whole different DNA, a different culture. That has been a huge injection of new life in a lot of these places. And sometimes there's conflicts like in Wisconsin. You know, we've got Brett Galschewski, who was running TP Action Up in Wisconsin.

22:18He's our enterprise director on Turning Point Action side. But he's like Mr. Wisconsin. He has become a lot of those are turning point people have, have then been elected to local GOP roles. And they've injected huge new energy there, but some of the old dogs don't like it. And so I would constantly get calls from, you know, local reporters in Wisconsin be like, the local GOP is very upset at you. And they're very, they don't like what Turning Point Action is doing. And they think of we're trying to take things over. No, it's more organic than that. It's just we have young people with a lot of energy. People like the new blood. They want to like vote them into office at the local GOP level. So we've seen that, we've seen that a lot. And I think that's kind of the way forward as you got to get kind of outside groups to inject new energy. So that's that's my theory of the case there. All right. That might actually maybe work out this way. Yeah, exactly. So maybe you could work with our Turning Point Action people. If there's some contested elections, I would be something that we could maybe get behind with our app and our ballot chasing.

23:18It have to be on a volunteer basis because New York is not one of our targets for actual spend. But we can still get the local GOP up and running on the app ballot chasing data, all those things. Okay. Yeah. That's no problem. I'll definitely look into that and everything. I appreciate it guys. Awesome. Thanks Anthony. All right. Next up we have Christine. Christine, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Please unmute yourself and welcome. Hi. Hi. Thanks for taking my question and congratulations on a great halftime show. Thank you. It was all Mikey. I don't know about that. He at least was given in for me. I was basically like in the dark the whole time. Wow. We kept it pretty under wraps. Anyways, it was great. Thank you. Thank you. All right. We're going to do it again next year. So, you know, spread the word. We absolutely will. Can't wait. And my question is it's kind of a lofty idea that I figured I just throw it out there. I was just curious if any high school or college chapters have ever considered hosting family of them.

24:20I have three young kids and, you know, I'm always looking for ways to get them around good role models. And they love being around big kids too. And selfishly, I'd love to be around parents who are maybe a life stage ahead of me, you know, to learn from them. And we're just curious if that has ever, but you know, have been considered before. Yeah. So, so Tyler Boyer chimed in on the chat and he said turning point families is what TPSA faith should be doing at the chapter level. He goes, I told them that a long time ago. So, it's actually a good idea because we have, you know, obviously within the C3, which is TPSA, we have the high schools, which is Club America. We have the college vertical. So, these are sort of different teams that we have TPSA faith and turning point academy as well. And that's all under the C3. A few other things, productions, social media, things like that. But those are kind of the different areas of focus. And I do think that they could do a family mixers and like barbecue.

25:24I mean, a lot of this stuff is very chapter based. And like, what I mean by that is it's very college based. So, these chapters get together and they do, how do we get together and recruit more kids? How do we, we'll do a, you know, like different events to incorporate more of the campus life and we'll push back against censorship. So, it's kind of very local based and very local to their own university. But I love this idea of getting the families together and we should push that out and make it a thing. And turning point faith, TPSA faith could get behind that. So, it's a great idea, Christine. We don't have it yet, but there's always room for improvement. So, thank you for the idea. I appreciate it, guys. Keep up the great work. Thank you so much. And thanks for your kind words about the halftime show. Oh, we got one from Mikey here. This is Mick. Mick, you're up next. unmute yourself. Yes, sir. Welcome to the show. All right, I do have a question for Mikey. Then I have a question for you all. But I'll start with Mikey. So, I'm a 21-year-old, living in Oregon.

26:26And I never went to college and ever had plans to go to college. And that sounds like that's similar path that you took. I want to know if you have any advice for, you know, guys like me coming out of high school that, you know, want to stay involved and want to be engaged. And after he answers, I want to hear all of your favorite Ninja Turtles. Mine is down at pillow. Mine is down at pillow. Okay, yeah. I always joke that Charlie kind of saved me and indoctrinated me a little bit because I legitimately... He indoctrinated. No, he did. He saved me. But I was supposed to take out $300,000. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And I was supposed to go to college. I had my college plans and everything. And then he was like, no, don't go to college. Come work for me. And so it started as a gap year. It's been, you know, six gap years. Six gap years. But here's my best advice. This is what I always say to high schoolers. In your community, the people you know, the big businesses you know, the most successful people you know, identify those people. And when you're graduating and you don't want to go to college,

27:27go beg for a meeting, annoy the crap out of them until they give you a meeting. Did I give you the supplies? No, dude. I've been saying this for years. Oh, well, that's great. And then if the... Keep calling the secretary until they give you a meeting with the CEO of the company. Say, I only need five minutes. I only need five minutes. Go there, sit down with them, and say, look, I'm graduating high school. I'm not going to college. I want to come work for you. I will do whatever it takes. I'll be the first to arrive, the last to leave. There's no amount of hours. I'm not willing to spend to figure something out if I don't understand it. I'll be the hardest working employee you have. And at the end of my gap year, at the end of this year, you can either say that you got this entire year of work out of me. And you don't even have to pay me. It could be a free year of work. Or you can say, this person's so good I want to hire them full time. And ten times out of ten, they will hire you full time. And he will immediately hire you. Entrepreneurs, CEOs, business owners. If they see a young hustling kid like that, walk into their office,

28:29and say something just like that, they will hire you. No, totally. So I gave my... I didn't realize you'd been given this advice. I gave my nephew the same advice. So my brother started having kids way younger, and he's older than me. So his eldest son is in college now. And I asked him, you know, what do you want to do? And he was like, well, I'm really into property management, and business, commercial real estate, and I want to kind of get into that space. So I said, okay, come back to me with the top three firms in town. Like, go to your research, come back to me. I said, okay, so it comes back to me. These are the top three firms. Okay, who are the top two executives at each firm? Get me them. Okay, now get me their contact information. Like, assistance, emails, phone numbers. And so he called around and got all of them. And I said, okay, you harass these three people until somebody takes the meeting with you. And he got a paid internship within two weeks doing exactly that. And I told him, I said, you need to be willing to work for free

29:32for at least six months, maybe 12. And don't complain. Just say yes, sir, no ma'am, all of those things. All you do is you are willing and able and excited, enthusiastic, eager. You have to be so positive. Because here's your, especially young generations, they are winers, complainers. I'm not, listen, I'm very pro young people, very pro gents. I'm not. But listen, the, the, the, the wrap on you is that your complainers, you're not hard workers, all this stuff. Prove that's not true with you. And if you do that, if you are a standout exceptional, then they, that I'm telling you to Mikey's point, an entrepreneur will look at you and see themselves in you and want to make you the best thing. Okay. And important to you. Ninja Turtle. Quick. Oh shoot. Yeah. Michelangelo. Uh, I mean, this is the normal answer Leonardo. Uh, I didn't watch it. I grew up on like, have a job. Doesn't matter. Have a favorite in general. There's only food. Dude, I didn't watch it. You like blue purple red or orange. Okay.

30:32Michelangelo. Uh, my, you know, Blake's take. I just Leonardo. Clearly. Oh, uh, Rich Paris Leonardo. Michelangelo. Thanks, Rich. You can't have two. Yeah, you can't. No, this is, that is ridiculous. Hi, folks. Andrew Colvet here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Y Refi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars. And you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America. And we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Y Refi can help.

31:32Just go to YRefi.com. That's the letter Y, then Refi.com. And remember, Y Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to YRefi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. I wanted to get a email very quickly. That was very good. Then we have Brandon. We do have, we have Brandon. But I also wanted to hit this quick because we talked about marijuana. A lot of the top of the show. I thought this was a great email. We got, I'm going to leave her name out of it. But she says, Hi CKS team. I don't normally do this, but was inspired to write. Thank you for talking on the show about the dangers of marijuana. I lived the weed psychosis nightmare myself. And I watched as my boyfriend, who was a heavy user, began to succumb to delusions and erratic behavior. I had to get him emergency mental health treatment. Where he was diagnosed with marijuana induced bipolar disorder. I had to learn how to navigate his paranoia and his rage. And his rage because he refused to stop using. I myself had begun to use weed during this time. And I saw its negative impacts on my motivation, on my emotional regulation, and on my thought processes.

32:37It was a terrifying time in my life. With praise and thanks to God, I am now free of both the weed and the relationship. More people need to be talking about these risks. Thank you very much for that email. And we want everyone listening. If you're out there, if you're doing weed, listen to that. That could be your future. Leave it behind. Reject to the poison. No poison. Yeah, I love this. First Corinthians 6-2. Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me. But I will not be mastered by anything. And I think about that all the time. Because you know, I had a pastor who said two real, he said a lot of great things. By the way, he went to Princeton. You used to do Bible studies with Franklin Graham. He's this guy who married me in my wife. Don Williams. Amazing, amazing guy. He used to say he had so many things. The meaning of life is relationships. That was one of his one good ones. He said faith has spelled RISK, which is another good one.

33:37But he used to say everybody's an addict. Everybody's addicted to something. But you do not be mastered by anything. And let Christ empower you, overcome your addictions, overcome your flesh, and live by the spirit, not by the flesh. Really, really important. One more question. Brandon, unmute yourself. Hey guys, can you hear me? Yes. So my question is, if there's anything in the anti-federalist papers, or like constitutional convention, or anything that the anti-federalist said, that you think if we implemented back then, that it would have been, you know, it would have worked out for us. Well, I think we actually did implement, we did implement one. So the anti-federalists, for those who are not aware, they're the ones who argued against the Constitution. So the federalists were the ones who said ratify the Constitution after the convention, the anti-federalist generally campaigned against it. But as I'm sure you likely know, Brandon, the main thing that they pointed out as a problem

34:38was that there was no bill of rights in the Constitution as originally drafted. And George Mason, for example, campaigned against it because it did not have that. And for that, sometimes he's called the father of the bill of rights. And that is what we got. And I think we've very much learned, they were correct. Sometimes you'll hear people say, oh, the bill of rights might have been a mistake because it gave people the idea, oh, the government can do anything. That's not explicitly forbidden in the bill of rights. And I think instead, we've learned over and over that having those explicit protections, they tried to get around what is explicitly banned in the bill of rights. But they have at least a very hard time doing it. That's repeatedly been our shield against so much overware, having explicit freedom of speech, explicit right to bear arms. We would 110% have banned guns in this country if we did not have the second amendment there awkwardly getting in the way of them doing it. And the first amendment, too. Yeah, first amendment.

35:38And there's the, I completely agree with what Blake is saying. And actually, it's funny. I was recently reading back through a biography of George Washington. And I kept sympathizing with the anti-federalist more and more. You know, it's like, by the way, you got to remember, we think of our founders almost as monolithic. They were not. They had deeply passionate vehement. Sometimes, sometimes like, come to blows, fisticuffs, kind of arguments about the size and scope of the federal government. And, you know, Jefferson, Jefferson, notoriously, was of a different mind than George Washington. George Washington and Hamilton believed in a lot more centralized power with the federal government. And Jefferson was much more state's rights guy. So I totally encourage you to study the founding fathers, the founding generation. There's good stuff to be gleaned from both. But to Blake's point, we got a lot of good stuff out there. I'm trying to think of something that wasn't implemented because they wanted the bill of rights.

36:39I do recall, oh, sorry, yes, what's that? Well, so the, the one that I think that, I mean, I see why they didn't put it in. But they were debating a veto on state laws. They wanted the power to invalidate or negative improper state laws. And I see why they said no, or state nullification of federal laws. So the national Congress would nullify improper state laws. So like, for example, we obviously have a lot of gun laws that are unconstitutional. And the national government could just come in and say, hey, you know, that's unconstitutional. No, doesn't work. Well, we do have a process by which we can do that through the courts, right? So if the state institutes a law that is anti-constitutional, then that can get litigated up through the courts. And then ultimately, the Supreme Court could take it up and then basically say that's an unconstitutional law.

37:39So there is a process. And by the way, we do have supremacy clause, right? The federal government is supreme. So, and you, by the way, you've seen that specifically with gun laws in countless states, especially blue states that have tried to institute unconstitutional gun laws. And they've been overturned much of their chagrin. And yet, there is attention there, right? Like in California, you still can do concealed carry in California, but they make it extraordinarily difficult. One thing. I'm trying to think of something the anti-federalist wanted that wasn't actually included in the Bill of Rights. And a warning I'm recalling they did have, is they were concerned that the judiciary would be too powerful that they were saying the Supreme Court could just basically make whatever laws we want. And what's funny is, we didn't see that for a long time for a long time. There was a lot of strength. And now, really over the last century or so, we've actually seen that manifestation of the courts being extremely powerful. Part of this is just, I think a part of it is the Supreme Court

38:39that they have those life terms, and that's now turned into you're on the court 40, 45, 50 years. And it's not so much that that's bad. That's worked to our advantage. But I think it's made all of American politics start to revolve around the Supreme Court dynamics and what you can engineer through the courts. And I sometimes wonder if people would be less all consumed with it if it was something like the Supreme Court was an 18-year term and every president by default would get two nominations to the court. So you don't have a majority of the court until you've won three presidential elections in a row. And then it doesn't last for half a century due to the quirks of who hadn't managed to get nominees in. It's something I think about. But it has, frankly, worked out to our benefit. Well, and I will tell you that wherever they can exploit a loophole or a power vacuum, conivers and corruptors will find a way to wiggle in there and manipulate it for their own good. All right, Mikey, thank you for joining us. Sir, thank you for having me. Blake, it's been a good show. Thank you, everybody. Good questions.

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