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Kim Komando Daily Tech Update — Apple unveils $2,000 iPhone Duo. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
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for theogenic error, how AI is changing every day work at NetSuite.com slash Kim. The guide is free to you right now at NetSuite.com slash Kim. That's NetSuite.com slash Kim. NetSuite.com slash Kim. So I read about this woman by the name of Ariana. And she's a PhD student at Georgia Tech. And she was working at the zoo in Atlanta. And she built something pretty wild. It's an interactive wall for elephants. The elephants interact with the wall here. Ariana, thanks for joining us today. And so tell us about what you came up with with these elephants and why. Hi, thank you so much for having me on here. So I started reaching out to Zoo Atlanta and I am doing animal centered computing or animal computer interaction in my research at Georgia Tech with Professor Melody Jackson.
And we wanted to use our knowledge of designing interactive tech systems to be able to provide enrichment for the elephants at the zoos in a way that creates something that's more complex for their habitat and stimulates their brains because elephants are incredibly intelligent creatures and rely on that cognitive complexity in their habitat. So we started looking at what kind of senses do elephants normally interact with. And in the wild, they can communicate over long distances through low frequencies or infer sounds. And they have a much wider range of hearing compared to what we humans can hear. So we wanted to play to that capability and design something that incorporates sound enrichment in their habitat. So they have this wall and it has holes in it and there's buckets on the other side. It's essentially like a slow feeder. They reach through the holes to grab hay. And sometimes they change up what's behind the wall.
Sometimes it's chowed. Sometimes it's some sort of tactile object. But we decided why don't we create something that adds to that wall and makes it more interactive such that whenever an elephant reaches through one of the holes, a system detects that and plays a tone from a speaker that's specifically a low frequency. OK, all right. So OK, let's just back up just a second. So you said you're working on what did you say computing in animals? Or what was that phrase that you used? Animal computer interaction. Animal computer. You know what? Would you have ever thought that would be a phrase? There's most humans that don't know how to interact with technology and you're getting elephants to do it. That's really something. So OK, so that's number one that I want you to back up on. And number two is why elephants? Yeah, so animal computer interaction. It's funny that you mentioned the human part because my master's degree is in human computer interaction.
OK. And we failed to move down to the elephants, that's it. It's a really interesting situation to design for animals because you're trying to consider how can we design something for a user that isn't able to speak in words back to us and give us feedback in a way that we're normally used to. And trying to play that they're different capabilities. You know, how do you design for a trunk rather than a human hand? So it's a really interesting and challenging situation there and it's a really growing field within the last maybe 15 years. And sometimes it involves things that are more, let's use wearable technology to monitor the health of animals. And sometimes it's more, let's see what happens when an animal directly interacts with a computer, maybe a touchscreen or maybe sensors like my system where you're using an approximate sensor or computer vision to be able to play a sound
so they're not directly, they're not visually interacting with a touchscreen, for example, but they are interacting with this technology. So the elephant wants them, hey, it takes its, what is it called? The big thing, the trunk. That can't be it. And it sticks it through a hole in the wall and it plays a sound. Why? Is the sound to entertain them? Is the sound to warn them, make them hungry? What is the sound trigger? Well, we can't be absolutely certain whether they enjoy these sounds. We would like to hope that they enjoy the sounds, but we don't know exactly what's going on in their brain, of course. But what we did was we did a pilot study where we only installed sensors for four out of the 14 holes to see do they go use the wall whenever it does have sound. And they ended up using, they approached the wall, 176% more.
No, then they like it. They like it. It would, we would like to think that that indicates that they're interested. I'd like to know, I'd like to figure out what my dog thinks. I mean, I put some holes in a wall, little Bella. I think that's the only way to get this golden retriever going in. I mean, it's, you know, it's fascinating that we are, it's fascinating to me that we are using computers and technology to bridge the animal human communication gap. I mean, you know, and we talk about, we talk about the ability of us to figure out what dogs think. I mean, here's what Bella's doing now. It's kind of crazy. Is it, she gets up, go, Bella's my two year, almost two year old golden retriever. She gets up between me and Barry, and she lays down and she puts her head between me and Barry. Oh, she's cuddling. But, but she's sleeping like a person. What? Well, now you got to give her an iPhone, see what she does with it. That's really, it's really wild.
I'm like, you don't kick her out of bed. You know what? I never said that I would let, you know, a two footed or a four-legged dog in my bed. Thank goodness your husband's seven and she's taller. Arianna, thanks for being on board with us. Interesting experiment. Okay, smarty pants. I know that you need more tips like this because you want to stay ahead of the tech curve. But as they like to say on infomercials, but wait, there's more. This is really fun. You can watch the Kim commando show over on my YouTube channel. Just go to youtube.com slash Kim commando. That's youtube.com slash Kim commando. And if you're more into podcasts, well, you can find me everywhere. You get your podcasts. Just search for commando with a K, of course. That's K-O-M-A-N-D-O. And if you have any questions for me or if you want to share a story that happened in your life, I'd love that. Just go to commando.com. I know there's so many commandos K-O-M-A-N-D-O commando.com. And then there's a big button on the top right. It says ask Kim.
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