
About this episode
Anti-vaccination rhetoric is often framed by proponents as a sort of medical freedom, the ability to decide what one wants to do with their own body. It’s an argument that can appeal to crunchy granola types and religious zealots alike. But there is also a darker side to this rhetoric that reveals an embrace of eugenic ideas among anti-vax advocates, whose preferred “herd immunity” approach to outbreaks subordinates the interests of older people, those with disabilities, and members of minority groups to others. This episode explores the history of eugenics as it relates to vaccines and unpacks how modern anti-vax politics tends towards eugenic responses to viral pandemics.
Sources:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19602363/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11700278/
https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/educational-resources/timelines/eugenics
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/politics/abbott-migrant-transport-order-covid
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/measles-maha-and-soft-eugenics/
https://www.nsdoku.de/en/groups/educational-program/the-nazi-society-of-exclusion
http://www.worldofinclusion.com/res/qca/Lest_We_Forget.pdf
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/07/health/hhs-cdc-vaccines-autism
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