
86. Why Client-Agency Relationships Fail - And How to Fix Them w. Drew McLellan
About this episode
In-house marketers and agency leaders don’t always speak the same language - but when they do, the results can be game-changing.
In this episode, host James Lawrence sits down with Drew McLellan, CEO of the Agency Management Institute, to unpack what makes agency relationships thrive or fail. Whether you're managing one agency or several, or considering switching partners altogether, this episode is for anyone wanting to bridge the in-house/agency gap.
Key Takeaways:
- The top reason agency-client relationships break down: (communication) and how to fix
- How in-house marketers can improve agency performance through more transparency
- Why caring (and showing it) really matters to agencies
- The red flags that indicate when it’s time to walk away from your agency
- Why investing in building a true partnership with your agency pays off
Guest:
Drew McLellan has worked in advertising for 25+ years and started his own agency, McLellan Marketing Group in 1995 after a five-year stint at Y&R. He also owns and runs the Agency Management Institute (AMI), which is a consultancy for small to medium-sized agencies that has been helping agency owners grow their agencies since the early 90s. Drew’s agency was a member of the organization for years before Drew acquired AMI and began to run it full-time. Drew’s often interviewed/quoted in Entrepreneur Magazine, New York Times, CNN, BusinessWeek, and many others. The Wall Street Journal calls him “one of 10 bloggers every entrepreneur should read.
You can follow Drew on LinkedIn.
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Rocket Agency Website: https://rocketagency.com.au/
Rocket Agency LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rocket-agency-pty-ltd/
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