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Freedomain with Stefan Molyneux — 6340 You Need Love!. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
0:00Hey, everybody's depending on your thumb, free domain, just a couple of miscellaneous thoughts that have come out of recent conversations with the good folks on the planet. And the first is having a conversation with somebody not super long ago about it was interesting. The question of the philosophy of nudism came up and I wanted to cough out a couple thoughts about that because you know, there's certainly the one perspective that you know, the reason we have to wear clothes is control and shame and bullying and conformity and so on. And I mean, those things may have elements of truth in them, of course, but my perspective was a little different, tough to hear, but you think my argument was something along the lines of this. If we look at why most cultures, almost all cultures, have course at least the genitals to be covered up and all the way from sort of pigmies in South America or other places
1:05and all the way through the Bushmen, Kalahari, and of course, European cultures that to be covered up genitals and most cultures at least not third world cultures will cover up breasts, but not all, right? I mean, particularly very tropical climates will mainly press open and exposed as I remember vividly from the astrogeographics of my youth. And so the question is, well, why would there be evolutionary pressures towards the covering up of genitalia in a tribe? So as usual, I did my little mental sorting thing, you got tribe A and you got tribe B. tribe A is fully naked, tribe B covers up irrogenous zones, right? Not Dr. Wayne Dyer's erroneous zones, irrogenous zones, breasts, but and genitalia. And we got tribe A covers them up, tribe B does not cover them up, who is going to have
2:06an evolutionary advantage? Well, one of the challenges of leaving genitals exposed is that it is impossible to cover up or hard to cover up, no, it's really impossible to cover up sexual desire. So if we can think of some some married couple in tribe B where the genitals are exposed and some babysitter comes over and the man finds the babysitter is actually attractive and gets an erection, then the wife is upset, the pair bond is harmed, you get a lot of conflicts and there may be separations and so on. And so you can't play coy in particular as a male if you find a woman is actually attractive and you know you're flying free, the beast is uncage, the lion is out, then it's going to be pretty hard to hide that and so on. And you may deny say no, no, no, I don't find that attractive, but if your boner is four sheets to the wind, that's going to be a little less believable.
3:07So it could harm the pair bond and so on. It is hard for a man to woo if he's talking about the stars in her eyes and so on and in fact it is the hard on that is pointing to her like a compass to magnetic north. So it's a little harder to be believable in focusing on the qualities of the woman if your hormones are clearly pointing you in that direction. I remember once I cast a guy in a play who did not date and he had to play some not sexual but some romantic scenes with a woman and he was wearing unfortunately track pants when he was doing the scene and it was evident that as far as sexual attraction went, he was not acting. That's probably the best way to put it to certainly not a very method acting, I guess
4:08you could say. So there's that with regards to female desire, of course, if one of the reasons women wear makeup is to cover up their sexual desire, the sort of flashed faces and so on. And if the woman, if she experiences nipple hardening as a result of sexual desire, then having the breasts free would indicate that sometimes fashion or lips can swell if a woman is sexually excited or there could be lubrication and so on. So it's not obviously as obvious as a man's erection, but it certainly is there for those who have the eyes to see and it would be of great advantage for men to read the signs of sexual arousal if women were naked or at least topless and so on. So it's a little harder to be coy, it's a little harder to hold out, it's a little harder to bargain, it's a little harder to be poetic, it's a little harder to pair bond or a lot harder to pair bond. If you are continually seeing that your partner is aroused by other people, if such is the
5:11case, which is going to be, and it could just be a purely physiological response, right? But nonetheless, it's not good for pair bonding, where there's less pair bonding and less coinous and less romance and less dedication and less playing hard to get to try to get a higher quality person. I mean, we see this online where there are these endless stories apocryphal, probably, I don't know, generated in India, who knows, right? But there are, in general, these stories about a woman saying, you are not friends with benefits material, you are husband material and therefore I'm going to go and sleep with these other guys, but that's only because they're not husband material. I remember this line to chilling killer line, which is like, all the girls keep the good ones around until the time is right, and she's finished, finished exploring herself and finding herself, because she often finds herself, I don't know, tied spread eagle
6:13to a bedpost or something like that, so that's finding yourself apparently. So that's one major issue. The other major issue, of course, is that if a man is in a state of sexual excitement, then he's less thinky, right? You know, the old joke that the blood can only go to one head at a time, right? And as, and this is a fairly well documented phenomenon that when men are sexually excited, they are less able to reason and they are, it's harder for them to concentrate as a whole. So again, you got tribe A, they cover up tribe B for a boob, they don't cover up. So then the men who are working in tribe A are constantly distracted by the naked female form. I mean, imagine I suppose the equivalent would be trying to write a very tough exam with
7:13pornography right in your face. Obviously, a little tougher to concentrate, a little tougher to get the blood going up, rather than down, nor rather than south, but to the girdle, to the guards inherit below is all the feeds. So in tribe A, the men can concentrate and work hard. In tribe B, the men concentrate less and work less hard. And so if you look at things like creating weapons, forging swords, battle axes, shields and so on, then the battle weaponry will be of much higher quality in tribe A as opposed to tribe B. And therefore, they will tend to win those battles, which means that being clothed or covered up will tend to spread, whereas being naked will tend to contract, right? They will tend to be less of those and more of that. So even just concentrating on food production, concentrating on repair maintenance,
8:17concentrating on whatever, right? It's just not going to, it's not going to work as well. So those were just a couple of thoughts I had about that. Another thought I had was, I've sort of noticed that there's been a number of people lately in callins who are enjoying philosophy as an interesting or entertaining gig, but being progressively or entertaining or enjoyable show, it's a show, right? So I used to say, how long have you been listening to my show? I don't like the idea, and I sort of fundamentally rebel against the idea that what I do is a show. So you'll hear me say, I'm really repeatedly, you'll hear me say, how long have you been listening to what I do, to what I do, as opposed to my show, because I don't like referring to what I do as a show? The calling is much more serious than that. So I've noticed that there are a number of people who are still kind of do the hedonist thing, still kind of do the avoidance thing, still kind of doing the dishonesty thing.
9:22And again, I just need to keep reiterating this. I know it may sound repetitive, but it is really important. I say this while myself being subject to all of these temptations and right down there in the trenches with you. So I'm not like, oh, well, I've risen above all of these, never any issues, blah, blah, blah. Not noticing that they're still subjected to the temptations, nor noticing that they are consistently failing to resist these temptations with the old Oscar model line. Oh, I can resist anything except temptation. So it seems that there are a number of people who are listening, of course, some number of people who are listening to what I do as a show. And something that they're like, wow, you know, these calling shows are really interesting or Steph's got some good insights or that's very interesting analysis or whatever it is. And not, you know, this is stuff that you kind of really have to do. And the reason, I mean, there's a number of problems with that from least important to more important.
10:22Number one is that it discredits philosophy and what I do. If you are only listening to what it is that I do as a form of entertainment, I mean, I guess it's okay. I mean, do what you want, right? I'm not going to, I'm not going to do some purity test or action test to have people listen to the show. If that were even possible, I wouldn't do it if it was. But if you are listening to what it is that I do as interesting and engaging entertainment, then I'm going to make a request that you don't tell people that you're interested in philosophy and in particular that you are interested or consume what I do. In the same way that if I was a nutritionist and I had put out a diet book and you only read my diet book or listen to my diet program, but you didn't actually implement any of the things that I suggest or encourage. I wouldn't want you to be talking about my diet book or my diet show because that would
11:27be to discredit like if you're 300 pounds and gaining, you know, 10 pounds a month or whatever, then I don't want you talking about my diet book because then people will say, you know, well, someone so really is into Steph's diet book and boy, you know, they're just doing terribly like then they're going to think that my diet book has something to do with it. So if you don't take someone's advice and act in a practical manner to achieve good suggestions, please don't talk about that person's good advice. If you are going to talk about that person's good advice, like if you really, if I was a dietitian and I was selling a book in a show and you had spent years consuming my diet for advice and you do want to talk about what I do, please tell people that you don't follow the diet. I'm really into Steph's show. I'm really into the way that he does philosophy, but I don't actually take any of his suggestions. I don't act on them. That's important because you want to be somebody who even if you don't spread the virtues
12:32of philosophy through sort of direct empirical action and choices, at least you're harming the cause of philosophy or what it is that I do, if that makes sense. So that's important, you know, I'm not going to nag you if you just view what I do as interesting insightful entertainment, but not something to be actually acted on in your life. You know, whatever, listen away, I think it's better to put it into practice, but I'm not going to be overly fussy about that. But I will make a request that if you're not doing philosophy and you're not doing the things that I've made a pretty damn strong case for over the last 21 years of public philosophy, if you're not doing any of those things, please don't talk about me. That's just it's a minor request. I think it's an important request and you're not helping, right? You're not, if you're not doing philosophy, don't tell people that you're really into philosophy because then they will assume that if you're into philosophy, you're doing it and if the outcomes in your life are negative, they'll assume that philosophy, or at least what I do in terms of philosophy, has negative outcomes.
13:35If you're talking about how much you love Dr. So-and-So's diet and you've been studying it assiduously for the last five years and you are obese and gaining weight, you are actually harming Dr. So-and-So's diet and its acceptance. So I would request, if you don't mind, either do it or view it as entertainment but don't talk about it with people, oh man, you got to really follow Dr. So-and-So's diet if you're gaining weight in your obese, then that's pretty negative, right? So or at least tell people, hey man, I'm really into Dr. So-and-So's diet, man, I've read all the books, I've watched all the shows, I just love that guy, but I don't follow his diet just because I know like I'm like 300 pounds, right? So I just be aware, I love his style, I love his insights, I think his stuff about diet is fantastic, I don't follow his diet just so you're not confused, right? So just say that, right? Just say I'm really into the Steph guy, great philosophy show, I don't follow it, like
14:39I don't do any of it, but I really do, I really do enjoy the insights and he's funny or thoughtful or whatever it is, he's got great arguments, but I don't, you know, just be aware that I don't follow any of it, right? And that's important because I'm desperate to not discredit philosophy and anyway, you sort of get the idea. Now of course the second consequence is that, I mean, love is our involuntary response to virtue if a virtuous can't be faked and love requires integrity, honesty and moral courage. You have to be noble, you have to be admirable, you have to fight the good fight, you have to be the enemy of evil doers and the friend of the virtuous, you have to spread good. Love is the reward we get for spreading virtue in the world. Love is the reward we get for spreading virtue in the world.
15:42And there's no other way to get it. And in particular romantic love, romantic love is the reward we get for spreading virtue in the world and of course it is there in part to compensate for the danger and harm that evil doers will inflict upon us when we spread virtue in the world because spreading virtue in the world means directly and actively interfering with the goals of evil doers. Right? The more that you spread say personal safety, like you, let's say the more you spread alarm systems and cameras and you keep people safe, the more you harm the interests of a thief. So if you do good in the world, evil doers get mad at you and they make your life difficult and so I mean, you have to have an incentive, right? I mean, lust in our desire for a sexual completion is one of the driving forces behind love pair
16:44bonding romance family blah blah blah, right? That's the reward, right? And so we face rejection, we face humiliation, we face danger, we get attached and we lose people, someone's probably going to die before someone else. So everyone who loves loves and loses or almost everyone and so we fear the rejection and so on. But the price is sexuality, the orgasm and you know, all the good stuff that comes with that. So love is what we gain as the price for thwarting the goals and desires of evil doers and thus destroying their higher and attack and there's no other way to get love. And self respect comes out of that as well, especially if as we all do, we consume all of these movies and and stories about these heroes who take on evil and march into Mordor and take on Dr. Matt Netto and things like that and and else with chewy and we have all
17:47of these stories and we love the heroes who fight the good fight and the saving private rions and all of that sort of stuff. So we love all the heroes. And if we love the heroes who fight the good fight and show moral courage and integrity but then we ourselves cut out and flake out all the time, then we will have contempt for ourselves admiring the virtuous means having contempt for our own cowardice and this is not a curse. Starting upon you, I'm just telling you the consequences. If you love the idea of knights and heroes and arrogant and whatever, then if you act in the opposite manner to that which you admire, you will have contempt for yourself and if you have contempt for yourself, then you will not be capable of receiving love, right? You are you understand? So that is the price, that is the price. Love is a form of admiration of moral qualities, moral qualities are to be achieved in the
18:51face of adversity, wanting to have moral qualities, wanting to be moral without facing adversity is like wanting to develop muscles without any strength, resistance, training. It's like wanting to have abs without any diet or sit ups, it's not going to happen. Not going to happen at all. So we admire those who overcome fear and shame and cowardice and all the things that keep us from virtue and if we have those things as ideals, we will have contempt for ourselves where we fail those ideals and we will have the most contempt if we're not even aware of it. If we praise all these things and we watch my show and I think I demonstrate some reasonable levels of moral courage and clarity and so on and so if you admire that and you don't do that, you are setting yourself up for failure, self contempt and the discrediting of philosophy which bad makes the world a worse place.
19:52And the last thing that I'll say based upon sort of a couple of combos I've had recently is that of course love is our involuntary response to virtue so I tell people to filter for virtue when it comes to dating right filter for honesty, integrity, directness, moral courage and so on, so filter for virtue and that's great I think obviously I think it's good advice but you have to remember that it's a universal quote, commandment or exhortation or encouragement to filter for virtue which means if you're a guy and you're filtering for a woman who's virtuous well of course as you know no surprise here UPB that she is also filtering for virtue so you want a virtuous woman she wants a virtuous man so you're filtering for virtue and so is she so it is always very easy to think about what we want it's a little tougher but absolutely essential to think about what the other person wants right what is the other person want so if you want a virtuous woman well guess what she
20:54wants a virtuous man and vice versa and what that means is that you have to look at yourself and the outside in and say what virtues would cause someone to admire me what virtues were my manifesting not talking about but manifesting what virtues am I manifesting that would have a good woman for deeply in love with me and maintain that admiration and respect for my nobility and quality of character and so on so it's great to be filtering for virtue but you have to remember if you want to succeed in these areas you must must must remember that she's filtering for virtue as well and if you cannot give her a clear argument as to why she should choose you then she's not going to choose you if you don't know why you should be chosen as far as morals go as far as virtue goes as far as integrity and honor and ability and all these things if you don't know if you can't explain if you don't have empirical evidence if you can't look at the mirror and say I am committed to maximum
21:59reasonable morality and virtue right not say all the truths in the world and get yourself thrown off a cliff in four minutes right if you are not able to answer that question why would a moral woman choose me why would a moral man choose me what will she see when she looks across the table at me will she see someone whose nobility and heroism and you know common sense moderation and courage and honesty and integrity will she look across the table and melt in the presence of my virtues because we can only pay a bond with virtue otherwise just biochemical nonsense right which is fine for ducklings but not people so think about what it's like sitting across the table from you will you be or are you someone that a moral woman will melt in the face of are you a woman that a moral man will melt in the face of do you
23:03manifest the virtues that you are looking for are you able to have an exchange of values right if you want someone to buy you can you buy them if you want someone to afford you can you afford them if you want someone to pay for you can you pay for them if you want to be inspired by someone's virtues will they be inspired by your virtues that's a question you're answering whether I raise it or not whether I bring that question up or not you are answering it like I don't go for jobs obviously I don't go for jobs where you have to be a surgeon because I'm not a surgeon and if I were to somehow be crazy enough to go for job as a surgeon I'd be pretty anxious because I would be deforting because I know I'm not a surgeon right some frank apnegale scenario right and of course in the same way if you are going for a virtuous woman but you don't know not even just believe you don't know deep down that you're virtuous then then you will feel like a fraud and you
24:05will be unable to do the relationship you will be unable I don't need consummate like sexually but you will be unable to maintain it you need to have a foundational acceptance or belief in your own virtues in order to be able to attract and keep a virtuous partner I think it's worth it I get you know that it's can be alarming or nerve wracking at times to be good but it's nerve wracking to ask a girl out but it's worth it and it's nerve wracking at times to ask to to ask to be virtuous to ask yourself to be virtuous in the world but it's absolutely worth it because the fear of being virtuous passes but the love that you get from being virtuous maintains and sustains and grows over time the fear passes and you say gee what was I so scared of I mean I got obviously horribly deplatformed and so on whatever totally worth it all the negatives
25:07pass and all the positives retain so that's a good thing all right thanks everybody so much have yourself a wonderful afternoon and evening and I will talk to you soon bye
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