1477- Good Guys Gone Bad, AI Replacements & Zero Spatial Awareness

0:00There are people walking free right now who believe they've gotten away with murder. That's where island crime comes in. My name is Laura Palmer. I'm a veteran journalist and I investigate unsolved homicides and missing person cases on Vancouver Island. And these aren't just cold cases pulled from the archives. I'm uncovering new leads, tracking down witnesses who've never spoken publicly before, listen to island crime, wherever you get your podcasts.

1:00Congratulations Lisa! Wow! She just won a thousand dollars. Amazing! Y'all just made my entire morning. Keep it up. You guys are awesome, man. This is the Ross & Mokosho podcast. Ross & Mokos DM. Deep Dive. Things get weird. In. Three. Two. One. Yes, time for the DM Deep Dive. Where do we get these questions from? Well, the DMs. The DMs that you send in to any of the Kiss Social accounts. So keep them coming in because Chloe is monitoring them. And then now we get to your questions eventually on the show. Chloe, what do we got in the DMs today? Okay, Juliette asks, do you think your significant other would be willing to spend one spill rather, one of your juiciest, deepest, darkest secrets to the public for ten million dollars? Oh, I hope she would. But the question is, what's a big juiciest secret though, right? Do you have a ten million dollar secret?

2:00No. I thought everyone does. A ten million dollar secret? Like, okay. What constitutes a ten million dollar secret? Well, just something that's... Okay, do you have one, Chloe? Oh, probably. A ten million dollar secret? There's some stuff I would not want to be out in the public. Is it something that you could text me that I can read and I can tell you whether it's... No. Okay. And I won't say it on the radio. No. Can you write it down for Shem? No. No. That's still not it. I can't even know what it is. It's not a ten million dollar secret. Yeah. No, you don't have a ten million dollar secret, Chloe. Again, too. You don't have a ten million dollar secret. You got it? No, no. My life's not that exciting, guys. Yeah. But like, I hope, and here's my thing, is that I think that if Catherine was provided with the opportunity to give up a secret. Like, if I was watching this negotiation go down from like one of those rooms, like I could see the room she was in, where somebody walked in and said, you know, there's a secret that we need to get from you about your husband.

3:02We'll give you ten million dollars if you can give us that secret. I think that she would say no, and I would be in that room screaming. What the secret is? Yes. Like screaming, screaming. I will say, I think, and I know it's your secret. I definitely have like a secret that I think is where a ten million dollars. No, you don't have a ten million dollar secret. No, no, not mine. I'm saying somebody else's, like I know somebody else's secret. Oh, I think it's definitely where a ten million dollars. Oh, my God. Oh, sure. Oh, who's who's secret? No, I can't tell you that. Okay. It's ten million, buddy. Could you, could you text it to me? No, I won't say. Do I know the person? Nope. Oh, you might. I don't know. I couldn't tell you. Okay. Now, just text me what the thing is, but don't say the name. I brought his ten million dollars secret. He's the ten million dollars secret. When I say it's, when I say it's life, it's thrilling. No, because I want to be able to judge whether or not that's what ten million is. Yeah, you don't have to say who it is. We won't say it on the radio. He just wants to know if it is in fact a ten million dollar secret.

4:02Okay. Hold on, I'm going to text it. Why? Okay. Shen falling for this. Corey? Corey, what are you doing? It's a matter with you. You cannot share this. I'll tell you why you know I'm already spissed because he's not getting the text. That's why because you want to know what the secret is Oh, no, I just think Shem so dumb to do this. No, not at all Not at all Come on. She's cake. There you go. Come on. What do you think about that? Okay Oh, okay. Next, the end, please Tonya says while doing his whole spring yard prep would Ross rather be forced to talk to Mori the entire time or eat bananas Yeah, because Ross is bananas. I mean, Ross and I've had some great conversations I talked to Mori like like on my headset or is Mori walking behind me the whole day. I'm gonna say Mori's with you

5:07Walking behind you. That's different that talking to Mori's different than then having Mori there all day Mori's there with you while you're you're doing all your long talk and you in person. Oh, bro I would devour so many bananas that you could put it on you could put it on only fans I would I would eat a banana anyway. There is two eat a banana only Manus don't even oh wait, follow me around if you said I could have Mori on my air pods And we would just be gabbing all day sure that would be fine. I think I would take I don't know I think they mean like he's got to be there he's gotta be there. Oh, what are you doing now? Why did you do this and all that? Why did you do this? Can I try? Can I help? There's no way. There's no way. It may be if Mori agreed to, like, put a lotion on your back. Whoa. See, that's why he can't be there. Give me the bananas. Yeah. Keep the lotion. Give me the bananas. What can I know with the next DM, please. Alana asks, which reality competition show does Chloe think each of you could go on and win

6:10also vice versa? What show do the guys think Chloe could go on and win? Okay. What could Chloe go on and win? The only thing I really know about you is that you dance. Yes. Like, is it ballet? I do every. I got a lot of different types of dance. Okay, so different types of dance. Like, I don't know what your skill level is. Like, would you go on, like, so you think you could dance or what's the other one? So, if you think you can dance for the years, they go forever. It's not a thing anymore. We'll bring it back. We'll bring it back. Dancing with the stars. There's dancing with stars. I would love to be on that. Like, I don't know what your skill level is at. So, yeah. For dancing with the stars, it's pretty good. Could you win the Bachelor, do you think? Oh, yeah. No. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I could. The reason why he said no is because you have a boyfriend, Chloe. I'm saying, if I was single, like, if I was, and I went on the Bachelor and competed against however many 20 girls for a guy I could win, I could lie my way to the top. Yeah. With Schumfield's that way, too, about himself. Back.

7:10Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so, okay. Okay. So, Chloe. That's where. Okay. Okay. Super quick. Chloe, because we're running out of time. I'll go around the room. Let's start with Ross. What reality competition show would he go on and win? I mean, of course, my mind immediately goes to, like, a cooking show, but you've already been on Chopped, so I wanted to do something a little bit different. I genuinely think that Ross and Mocha could go on the amazing race and win. Oh, yes. Okay. I think that, like, Ross has the smarts, like, Mocha has the more, like, visit Mocha. Oh. Sorry. Okay. Damn, Maureen. Um, I know that you love this show. Maureen, but I do think you'd be good at the traders because it's a lot of lying and a lot of manipulating. And I feel like you're perfect at that. Yeah. I would say, I would say Maureen on traders or Big Brother easily. Or Big Brother. I do. I think Maureen on Big Brother would either go right to the end or he would be at week one. Yeah. Right? I think Maureen is going right to the end, maybe winning it all, or he's like the first

8:12one voted out of the house. Uh, and what about Shem? The voice? Something like that? No, I'm not saying that. Golden best for it. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for all of your DMs. We'll do this again tomorrow. Keep those DMs coming in. Thanks, Chloe. Thanks, guys. Ross and Mocha's DM, Deep Dive. You wouldn't say that to your mama. So why us? Here we go. All right, today's DM, Deep Dive. Uh, Chloe, what do we got in the DMs today? Since says Ross and Mocha seem to genuinely get along, but I want to know from each of them when the last time one was truly mad at the other. Like truly mad? Truly mad. Never. I've never been. Yes. I've never been truly mad at Mocha. I have a question for you. Yes. Were you ever mad at Mocha when he initially said no to doing the show? No. Never? No, because I had nothing to lose at that point. Right? Right. We didn't like know each other. No, no. No, no, no. No, because I wasn't mad because I wasn't in a position to be like, you don't know what

9:17you're missing because I just never done it before, right? So I was, I was sad that I wasn't going to get the opportunity and I thought, I was upset because I thought that we would really do a great show together. But no, my God. No, I wasn't mad. And then even now in almost a 17 years, like can I say that I've ever been truly mad at Mocha? No, never. Never. Never been mad. I mean either. That's crazy. That's even crazy to think about. I don't have anything to be mad at, Ross about it. I can't think of a single thing. No. What about like a little bit mad, like maybe like irritated? Uh, okay. I'll give you a great example. This happened year, like I don't even know how many years ago. But it was just like a business thing. It wasn't even a personal friendship thing. And it was like over and you know, like I think about it now and I'm like, man, that was kind of stupid. I had sent an email a couple of times about something and then I never heard back in the deadline. I think was like coming up or something like that. And I just mentioned to Ross, like, hey, man, like I sent you these emails and I really need you to get back to me on it.

10:19But like that's probably the extent of it. And even with that, I wasn't mad. I still have nothing, by the way. Oh, you've never been irritated at all. Mocha? Nothing. Not one thing, bro. Nothing that ever lasted longer than a minute. Yeah. Like, for my example, like, it's such a big nothing, though, because we talked about it. But you said it though. Move on. You said it. Because I'm trying to find an answer and I can't find an answer, guys. Oh, it's closed. Yeah. Cool. No, it's fine. Anyway. Now I just set reminders on my phone. Sorry to be the one to ruin the relationship. Now I just, no. Now the way I deal with it is I just set reminders on my phone to go off. So then I, at the time, like during the show, I'll be like, hey, Ross, can you please do me a favor? Check your email for this thing. Right. Sorry, guys. Mages over. Mages disappointed. Now disappointed. My answer is no. Next time, please, Chloe. Juliette asks, do you think you'd be able to parent your 17 year old self? Oh gosh. But would I know all my, you would, you would, you know, do you have the knowledge?

11:21No, no. Like if, like all the lines that I would tell to my parents, like, you wouldn't know what's going on. Just the same kid. I think I would. Yeah. Yeah. Damon Mori. Would you be able to parent your 17 year old self? Yeah. You think so? Yeah. I wasn't like the problem, child. No. Yeah. I guess. Would you? Um, yeah. 17. I was kind of cool at 17. It was when I was younger where I was a little bit more terrifying to my parents, I think. But by 17, I was kind of fine, right? I wasn't a big red flag when I was 17. Now if you said when I was between like 13 to 15, that was like tough. You know, my parents. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't really think I gave my parents a hard time, but like I did stuff that they did not know about. Yeah. I'm not going to self-snish, bro. Shem? Uh, yeah. I think 17 year old Shem. I actually think 21 year old Shem would have been harder to parent than 17 year old Shem. Why? Cause of the size.

12:21What? Cause he's a big, what? Cause he, cause he, cause I'm a 31 year old Shem. I don't mean that kind of size. I mean, because you grow a lot between 14 and 21. Sure. I started out saying 17. I didn't say 14. So I'm sorry. 17. I'm still between 17 and 21. You probably grew like three inches. Yes. Problem. Right? So you said, you said yes. You what? Yeah. 17 year old Shem. Yes. But like 21 year old Shem was, was a lot more difficult than I was saying. Chloe. Uh, yeah. 17 year old I'd be fine cause I was like very goody two shoes. But if you said like, yo 17, that was seven years ago. Chloe. I know. You know, university just changed me. Like I was a very like to the rules girl in high school. And then as soon as I got out of Calgary. Oh boy. Game over. Game over. Hi mom and dad. Are you listening? Yeah. As soon as I got out of Calgary. Oh boy. Yeah. Yeah.

13:22Okay. Really quick. Give us an example of an old boy moment. Yeah. Yeah. Just partying a lot and like, I guess I can't really sneak not sneaking out or anything like that. But like, you live alone. I know. That's what I'm saying. I didn't sneak out or anything. Um, I guess just like the partying attitude and just like the amount of times I've like not slept and then gone to work and like that kind of stuff. They probably wouldn't love that. Oh boy. All right. Uh, that's enough DM deep dive for today. Thank you ladies and gentlemen. Keep those DMs coming through as we say all the time, all the kiss social accounts by the way are wide open. So if you got a question or a comment, Chloe gets them and we eventually get to them on the show. Thank you, Chloe. Thanks. Ross and Locust DM deep dive. There are people walking free right now who believe they've gotten away with murder. That's where island crime comes in.

14:23My name is Laura Palmer. I'm a veteran journalist and I investigate unsolved homicides and missing person cases on Vancouver Island. And these aren't just cold cases pulled from the archives. I'm uncovering new leads tracking down witnesses who've never spoken publicly before. Listen to island crime wherever you get your podcasts. Ross and Locust DM deep dive. I regret this already. Everybody good? Yeah. All right. Let's get to it. It's a DM deep dive. Chloe, what do we got in the DMs today? Jaysha asks if you guys were to describe each other as a piece of furniture, what would it be and why? She wouldn't be a water bed. She knew it was going to be like a dooday or something. Like a bean bag chair. But yes, you want to go water bed, you're right, water, definitely shem water bed, 100% water

15:26bed. I'm going to look around the room here, a piece of furniture, Chloe, you're a curtain. What? It's first thing that popped into my mind. I may come back to you, dammit, moring. We don't know too much about you, you only started on the show in January, so we're still getting to know you. So curtain's a safe choice, yeah. Yeah, curtain's there. They're useful, right? Maybe hold on. Hold on, hold on. Dammit, moring. I could come back to you, Chloe. Padded foot stool or hard foot stool? Hard. Hard. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to go. What's that? Why that? Because you lost all density and everything, man. Yeah, you're just like, if you went on all fours right now, moring, you would look like a foot stool. I don't think more of a shays, because shays are... No, shays are comfy. Yeah, that's super good. You lost all muscle and... Yeah, foot stool. I'm also going foot stool. Not shays. Maybe in your head, you think your shays just like in your head, people think you look 18. But...

16:27You're not soft anymore, man. No, no. You're not soft anymore. You don't have that. Also... I don't know. You don't have that bounce. Yeah, I don't know. What's wrong with a foot stool? People love a foot stool. They're very useful. People's feet on me. Oh, true. True. Okay. Well, I mean, Shensawa... Shensawa... Yeah. I got the whole body, man. Oh, body. Right. Okay. What's Ross? Ross would be... Like a habrac? No, a rug. No. A lamp? Oh. Like a tall lamp? A lamp. Very much. Not a comfy rug that you lay on? No, because he's just like... I don't have that. I don't have that. I don't have that... Like you don't look at me and think comfy. Yeah. He's stuck on purpose. He's tucked away in the corner. Yeah. So we're not an ironing board? An ironing board? Yeah. With my crooked back? Yeah. Maybe make the sound of an ironing board. Okay. No, me, no, me, no, me. Boca, you are a... Could I be a coach? I don't know. Why? Comfortable, maybe. You're a best, maybe, a love seat son. That's what I was going to say. A love seat or a... Like a coffee table?

17:27A coffee table? A coffee table? What's that? Like a liqueur? Like a liqueur? Yeah. Like a liqueur? What's that? Like a recliner? Like a lazy boy? Sure. No. No. Oh, yeah. You are... Oh, I know what mocha is. White plastic patio chair. Oh, come on, man. Why are you going to do that? I don't wind a thing. I'll just land across the yard. Let's out in the rain. So small. You just go flying. Go ahead and get small. Go ahead and get small. Go ahead and get small. Go ahead and get small. Go ahead and get small. Go ahead and get small. Go ahead and get small. Go ahead and get small. Go ahead and get small. Yeah. Okay. Next DM. Hello, Dere. Good to see you, Andrew Broes. Remind me of the two guys on Office MMOvers. You guys should get your own TV show. Oh my god. Oh my god. You watched that show? I know of the show. I've seen Season One. I love it. You know? That show I've never seen it. A lot. It's so much. It's good. Yeah. It's on Crave and these guys... They started out on YouTube and making skits. And then they just blew up.

18:28They got their own TV show. It's Jermaine and Travon Richards. They are funny. Hold on, let me, I have... Are they brothers? They are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that show so much. Hold on. And they're brothers. But are they brothers? Yeah, brothers and brothers. And brothers? Yeah, interesting. That's my favorite kind of brother. Yeah, man. This is a trailer. Bandat. Office movers. Trailer. My new thing. Go watch that on Kriva. You guys already know what it is, Russ. Yeah, that's a good drip off. Yeah. I was gonna say that. Oh, yeah. You weren't gonna say it like Taiyaks. Okay. Rossi's a transition. I love it. I love it. I love it. I'm all for it. Congratulations. Did you watch a Judge Tyco episode, Jeff? No, I didn't. Oh my God. It's so funny. I don't even know what you're talking about right now. It's just a character. Oh, oh, gosh. One of the characters on that's a part of their kind of universe. Yeah. They gave this one particular character his own episode. And it is so funny.

19:29Gotcha. Anyway, I could see that. You and I are kind of like those guys. Yeah. I could see that. For sure. All right. Next, Dan, please. Darren asks who could be replaced by an AI and it would take listeners the longest to notice. Oh, like our voices? Yes. Oh, it's me. I already sound like a million different things. Yeah. You know what? You're right. It might be generic as hell too. Shem, because we've had so many people ask if other voices that they've heard, whether it's on a song or in a commercial, if it's Shem, because they really do sound like Shem, and it's not Shem. Yeah, it's definitely. It's not going to be me or you. Right. The people would notice that immediately. I even think people would notice if it wasn't more immediately to be honest with you. Is that something that I sound smarter? No, no, just because I think that you have a couple different ways you talk, you know. So I'm going to go with Shem because I think that like if something were to happen to Shem, right? Like not, but bad. I don't mean anything bad. I mean, like, I mean, like kidnaped.

20:29Oh, nothing bad. That's right. No, nothing really bad. I think that we could AI you and it would take a long time for people to realize that. I said that's too loud. I'd like to keep this job. Don't you remember when back when AI was like first starting out? Oh, when it was brand new. Yes. And you had run Shem's voice through a. I did. Yeah. Through a program. Yes. And this was the very early days of AI. Guys, this is tough. Like, I can't even believe I have to say this. But can you please stop hating on Nutella? Or as I like to call it the creamy brown? Seriously, it hurts. Like I smear that **** on everything. You haven't lived until you've licked Nutella off your own chest. I think I still even have a bit. Yeah, I do. Look right here. Under my armpit. Nutella. Hang on. Let me get rid of that. Slurp. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. I gotta tell you. Hey, AI Shem is hilarious. Slurp. Slurp. Slurp. Slurp. Slurp. Slurp.

21:29We'll do this again tomorrow. Slurp. Ross and Lopez, DM. Deep dive. RDM is where all the weird **** lives. Here we go. Time's up. We'll do this again tomorrow. Slurp. Ross and Lopez DM. Deep dive. RDM is where all the weird **** lives. Here we go. Time for today's DM. Deep dive. What are we? What do we got today? Oh, that's a different. Rohan asks, what's one movie that you guys think the main character or the good guy was actually the villain or the bad guy? Mine was Daniel Larousseau in the karate kid. Oh, I've seen those videos. People do that. Explain. I haven't heard that. It's not the bad guy. You could recut it and make it look like he was the bully, although he's not the bully. Because he was new to town and he came and like disrupted everything. Yeah, I guess. I guess I don't know. And he took that one. Yeah, I don't see that one. The main guy's girl. So I mean, people have said the same thing about Luke Skywalker. That he's the villain? Well, yeah, that like they like in the Rebel Alliance to like Al Qaeda. Oh, my God.

22:29Like the small splinter group of rebels who were, you know, trying to take down a government. Like they're terrorists as opposed to freedom fighters. What an interesting way to look at it. Who's got an answer? Traffic TV show? Yeah, go. Again, I don't look at him as a bad guy, but I could see some people looking at Michael Scott as a bad guy. From the office. Why? Yeah. He's kind of a douche. Oh, yeah. He's kind of a ass, right? But he's definitely the main character. And the protagonist of the series. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you're right about that. Go with Michael Scott. Yeah, I don't know. What about Walter White? Walter White. Breaking Bad. Yeah, that's a good one, actually. Oh, really good. Yeah. But I mean, it is called Breaking Bad. Like he did go from good to bad. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And he's still informed. But he's the root for him, right? And he's really a bad guy. Well, he is a bad guy. Yeah. But he was very, he was a good guy for like a second. Sure. And he became a bad guy. Yeah. But you definitely still root for him, right? To win. I'm reading something online here. Somebody said, um, Ferris Bueller's day off. Ferris and Ferris Bueller's day off. Oh, definitely villain. For sure, villain.

23:29Even though you want to cheer for the guy or comes across as like this nice kid. Yes. Yeah. Definitely villain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good one. Anybody else got one? I mean, mine's really neat. It's from a TV show. But Lucas Scott and One Tree Hill, like he's the main character in the whole show and everyone loves him. Yeah. But he's a player. As soon as you said that, Ross, you can't see. Ross came. I'm surprised you didn't hear it from your room. No. He gave the biggest eye roll. Woo. I would say. I would say Emily and devil was Prada. Which one's Emily? It was um, Krasinski's wife. Yes. Emily Blant. Emily Blant as opposed to Miranda Priestly. Interesting. You're often Miranda Priestly is the bad person, but I think it's really Emily. Interesting. Okay. Good one. All right. There we go. Uh, next DM please. Chloe. Craig says back in the day way back the fellow's Ross and Mocha did that sex education segment. I want to know what the most awkward question they were asked was and which was the most relatable.

24:32Okay. So if you wanted, it was called the, uh, the sex show. Rosamocus sex show. And we get like fully into it. Like the story, I mean. Yes. On the six part docuseries, the history of Rosamocus. We go, yeah, we go deep into the Mocha and I go deep into the sex show on the, uh, on the docuseries. It was only, it was only twice that that happened between us. It's all thanks. Yeah. You can bleep this, but I think that there was a couple of things that came out of it. But one of the, the great moments and it's in the docuseries. Like, and the, all the clips from the old Rosamocus sex show were in the docuseries. Um, but the, but the big one that I remember was when Mocha was asked if he knew what. Brett. Spoiler alert. Yes, I do. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Next DM please. Yvonne asks, you've just been granted a treat yourself day with three wishes.

25:32What are they? And how are you spending the day? So like, I can't, these aren't rich wishes or leave your husband wishes, Maureen. These are, these are just like, these are just, what are they? Like pampering wishes? Treat yourself. Yeah. Like a, let's say, let's say an activity, something, like a dinner, like a free stay at a cabin, like that kind of thing. Yeah. But you get three wishes for one day. Number one. Yeah. I would wish for my family, like my son and my wife, to have Disney World all to ourselves, the entire day, and have access to all the rides, all my kids' favorite rides, unlimited rides, and unlimited food. So that's number one. It's not really treating yourself though. I think they mean like spotting. Like, you got to treat yourself. But that's fun for me though. No, because then my kid and I can do like all the Star Wars rides together. I'll count it. And then I want to do something. How about like a shopping spree for my wife and I?

26:34No, look, okay, but first of all, I'm changing the rules of this. This is a solo mission. Oh, I have fun with my family. No, no, no, no, solo mission. It's too easy for you otherwise. Oh, look at me. I'm a good guy. I'm going to take my kids. Disney World all my favorite rides in my wife. No, solo mission. Solo mission. I'm not saying you shouldn't love your family. But I think that you're missing the spirit of the question. Okay, come back to me. Solo mission. You go first. This is how difficult it is for you to think of doing something nice for yourself. Damn it. Damn it. More go. Okay, I get a cab and all of myself for a week. Right. I can eat whatever I want, not gain a pound. Oh, that's a, that's a good wish. Yes, go. Yes. And oh, suddenly the car broke down. I have to stay longer. There you go. Okay, back to you. No, back to me. Okay. Shemi. I want, I want to sit court side at a basketball game. Done. High who to wish I could eat and not gain a pound. Done. And. Oh, man. I only got two. Okay. The mechanic that comes and fix my car shirtless and hot.

27:37There we go. Four inches. I just gave you, I just gave the one you didn't use. Wait, come on you. Sorry. I'm okay. Go. Come back to me. Oh, you're not. Oh, my God. Okay. All inclusive trip to Mexico. For a day. For a week. No, a day. It's a day, girl. It's a day. Oh, but more he said he's getting the cabin to himself for the week. Because he also wished that his car broke down. And a hot mechanic with no shirt. I'm going to Mexico for the day then. Okay. A spa day. Full spa treatment is number two in Mexico. In Mexico. Okay. And then three. Oh. I have no idea. Reparations. I'm taking my wish work. Mori, take hers. Okay. Easy. I can cheat for a day and no one ever finds out. Wow. Wow. Wow. You know what? Do you have an answer? I'm not. No, I do not. No more. Am I going to give Mori all my wishes? Yeah. Mori, take mine too. Take mine. One of my wishes. I hope he uses on lawyer's feet.

28:37Thank you everyone for all of their tams. We'll do this again tomorrow. Thank you, Chloe. I knew condo for yourself. Oh, yeah. Number three. I don't know. I'd like to leave that up to him. Leave me. Ross and Vocus DM. Deep dive. There are people walking free right now. Who believe they've gotten away with murder. That's where island crime comes in. My name is Laura Palmer. I'm a veteran journalist. I investigate, unsolved homicides, and missing person cases on Vancouver Island. And these aren't just cold cases pulled from the archives. I'm uncovering new leads, tracking down witnesses who've never spoken publicly before. Listen to island crime. Wherever you get your podcasts. Ross and Vocus DM. Deep dive. When you have nothing to say, why do you always say it to us?

29:37Here we go. Time for the DM. Deep dive. Let's jump right into it. Chloe, what do we got in the DMs today? Okay. Annie asks, who on the team is most likely to accidentally join a cult? Oh, damn it, Maureen. Absolutely. Without question. And then, Shem. What? Easily. You know what? I agree with Ross. Easily Shem. I think you're going to get scam, Shem. Because you are. You're a man of God already. And you're already susceptible. Ready to help. You're so nice. And I think somebody would. Louer you with song. Uh-huh. Who's Louering me in with what? Oh, Maureen, you could do. I could get you like, you could be waiting for the bus. By the time you're, you're done. Maureen is in a robe. Carrying Kool-Aid. Like, please, Maureen, it wouldn't take a lot. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I think it's Maureen. Yeah. I'm with you, man. It's Maureen first, and then Shem. But I don't have the legs for a long shirt. No, no, no, Maureen. You don't even. You don't have to do any of that stuff.

30:37You are going to be waiting for a bus one day. Somebody's going to say something nice to you. Uh-uh. You're going to be super flattered. You're going to get off the first stop you get off. You're going to walk into a shoppers' drug mart. You're going to buy a razor, shave your head. That's how easy it is. That's how, that's how. It's awful with you. Yeah, exactly. It all happens for 30 minutes. Yeah, yeah. Have you heard about this, uh, this exclusive men's club? Tell me more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All of a sudden. Get him over here. He's in a bag. Over the shoulder. Next, DM, please. Tonya says I want to know more about Ross's feelings about Ryan Reynolds. He made a comment while back that he's always in things, and it's really annoying. He rarely says anything negative about celebrities. But given what's happening with Blake Lively and all, I'm dying to know his thoughts. I think that there are a few people whose greatest achievement is not anything they've done

31:37on screen. I think that their greatest achievement is their image. Oh, sure. And I think that Ryan Reynolds is one of the best in that category. As far as cultivating an image that is something other than what a lot of people experience. Sure. What you see is not always what you get. Correct. Oh, yes. And I think that based on so many accounts and my own accounts that his greatest achievement is his own persona, as opposed to something he's done on screen. Like he's always acting. Yeah. Oh, just tell me that. Guys, I like him so much. Yeah. I'm not saying don't like him. But you like the image. Yeah. I'm not saying don't like the man at all. Because if you start going down that road, you're really, really limiting yourself on who you can be a fan of. Right. But I'm just, I'm just saying. Like when they say like don't ever meet your heroes. Yeah. Yeah. That kind of thing. That happens a lot to people for sure. Yeah. I just think that I think some people are very, very good at it.

32:39Very good at doing that. Okay. Where they've put more work into that than they have anything else. Okay. And also like even given everything with Blake Lively, I feel like he still has this crystal clear image. Like he's not really being roped into it all that much. Oh, because it's a machine. Yeah. Right. He's got the right people around him. You have to help with that. All right. Next, Dan, please. Chloe. Edward asks, do you wet your toothbrush before or after putting the toothpaste on? Oh. Oh. So before and then toothpaste and then a little, a little bit wet after. Yeah. No, I always do toothpaste first. And then I wet the toothpaste. Yeah. Hey, this morning it happened again with my toothbrush where there was, and I don't know how it happened, but there was a hair embedded like in my toothbrush. When I started brushing my teeth, the hair came out. It was a long hair. And then as I was brushing my teeth, I wound up actually like flossing my teeth with this piece of hair that then started to break in between all my teeth. Is the hair still in between your teeth? No. I had to pick it all out. Right.

33:39No, it wasn't beard hair. It's head hair because it was long. Your head? No. It could have been Catherine's. It could have been my kids. I don't even know. Are you sure it wasn't like a long, like cat hair? No, no, no. Because it was long. Like I had one piece in between my teeth on one side and I was like flicking at it with my tongue and then I went to pull it and it came right out of my mouth. But it was in between my teeth, right? Yeah. So I basically... Did you get the gunk out? I was flossing with hair. No, because as soon as you try and take it out, it breaks. And then you're dealing with a smaller piece and a smaller piece and a smaller piece. But yeah, every now and then that happens, and I don't know how it happens, but I brushed my teeth with somebody's hair today. I went to if you're asking. I went it first. You went it first? Yes. Yeah, I went it first. Oh, I think I might actually do both. So you sand which your toothpaste with water? Yeah. Gem? I'm definitely both for sure. Really? For sure, for sure. No. So I'm the only one then. What? I only do before. I do after. Oh, I only do before. Okay. So everyone's different. There we go. So for Gem, Chloe, and...

34:39More, they're the same. Yeah. Thank you everyone for all your DMs. Keep coming in, because we love talking about them. Any of the Kiss social accounts, wide open for you to hit up. And Chloe gets them and brings them to the show. Thank you very much today, Chloe. Thanks, guys. Thanks for listening to The Ross and Mocha Show Podcast. Catch the guys live. Weekday mornings from 6 to 10. On Kiss 92 5. Kiss 92 5.com. Or download the Seeker app. There are people walking free right now who believe they've gotten away with murder. That's where Island Crime comes in. My name is Laura Palmer. I'm a veteran journalist, and I investigate, unsolved homicides, and missing person cases on Vancouver Island. And these aren't just cold cases pulled from the archives. I'm uncovering new leads, tracking down witnesses who've never spoken publicly before. Listen to Island Crime, wherever you get your podcasts.