10AM: The Free Agency Hot 100 List

0:00I I swear I've heard the dulcet tones of Mark Towscher singing along with Matt Karney in my ear The 10 o'clock hour of Wilde and Towsch begins are we sure we could play that that's this has to be all right I think we've covered this. I think Jesse Mutes it at On the YouTube so they don't hear it because we do pay For people to be able to hear that on the radio and the stream and everything else, but so he

1:04Are you giving a little bit to the terrestrial radio audience and Obviously, you know, I love that and I'm people love his music. All right, so I don't know how many people love Rashon Gary, but I don't know how much they love his contract his 2026 Base salary is $18 million Okay, his cap number that's a that's a very nice number for a really good starting D if that's if that's what it 18 millions very reasonable For a starting stud Dean, but is he a starting stud Deand that's a question. I'm just I'm just stating because you said 18 millions blowing people's minds And to me, it's not continue his cap number is 28 million dollars If they were to release him he would count 17 million and

2:09Change against the cap so they would basically save if they released him outright Didn't push it into 2027 They didn't bring him back. They didn't restructure him. They said thank you for your service, Rashon We wish you the best elsewhere. They would clear almost $11 million in cap space Okay Subtracting the dead cap from what he would count if he was still on the roster So 11 million dollars. I think the only person that they save even more with by releasing Is Elton Jenkins Yep, which would save them almost 19 or around 19 million. So there you release those two players You've created 30 million dollars in cap space bam boom Release those guys and boom you got cap space. Here's a guy. We're not gonna play football for the Packers anymore

3:11That's that's even better That's a really good job. Just a nice job So What do you think happens here because here's what the the genesis was too fold for this discussion One was the sweatshirt the sweaty hoodie on the ground at the finish line of the track wherever Rashon was working out the other Was on Jen gave and shoot me this morning. Julie thinks they're gonna bring him back He doesn't think they should but he thinks they're going to and And I you know, I am always uncomfortable with the word delusional I don't think that Rashon Gary was as bad as the statistic Not pressures seven and a half sacks right which again. I don't know what Goody is using there because the statistics that the Packers themselves put out had them at 48 pressures Yeah, yeah So Which is roughly what 20% less than what Goody saying he had

4:13He did go the final 11 weeks of the year Without a sack you are not an elite pass rusher if you go I don't care I understand sacks aren't the only way to measure Success for a pass rusher, but you're not an elite pass rusher if you go 11 weeks without a sack You just you're not right am I wrong to say that? Like without any sacks none Zero I think it's fair. Yeah, I think it's fair so I guess If they bring him back what is realistic to expect And obviously he would have to agree to yeah, all right, I'm gonna accept this pick I don't think this is as big of a gulch now that you say it the way you did okay 28 million It's a big number but Again if they give Rashan the opportunity to go out and look because if they're not going to pay him that

5:14They would be more than happy to tell Rashan and his Representatives go out and see who's out there. Maybe we could trade you for a third or fourth on pick. That'd be great I don't know if that's what's going to happen, but Rashan and his team. I'm sure Down at the combine we're dabbling around like well. I don't know did you pay him 20 million a year? Because right now his base salary is 18 That's the that's kind of the floor So if there's no team that is willing to pay him 18 All of a sudden he is going to be a lot more receptive to the packers overtures On working out a new deal so that they can Get another year from him at a lesser value with conditions with Different incentives that can help alleviate a little bit of that loss And everybody could be happy So I understand where chewy is coming from I think you'll listen to goody's comments and you didn't sense that he was Like his glowing is maybe he has been with others, but and in fairness he did utter the phrase if he's with us

6:19Next year, which he had not done with any of those other guys Yes, I think that this is a no-brainer that it is not going to happen at this number This would be something that would get redone and In a much more team friendly way And Rashan and his team have to look at and say do I want to do this here or do I want to go somewhere else because I also think You brought this up with Micah Parsons post season stuff It was fairly obvious to us that listen to that he's taking some shots Yeah, at some of the other guys on this defense. I think he was he wanted I don't know if he did admit to this mic is very outspoken. I hope his podcast keeps rolling Use pretty up front that there are some guys Didn't play enough snaps Low snap count guys that we need more out of And I don't know where that's at If I'm Rashan Gary, I'm taking that as fuel and I'm saying I can I can be I'm as bad as best suited if I'm here

7:25With a healthy mic on the other side I'm not going to get more preferable matchups than that And you have to look at this thing in a big picture way if you're Rashan and that's not always easy to do When you bring emotion into it when the packers are going to tell you We don't think you're worth this even though we agreed to this contract X number of years ago I am always leery as you know of not only trying to interpret cryptic Photo postings artistic work from players But of who they're talking about when they don't mention someone directly The quote that Towsha's referring to which by the way as Chewie and Gabe pointed out on John Gabe and Chewie this morning when we're talking about Rashan Gary Micah Parsons basically praised everyone except Rashan Gary during the second half of the season right He's talking about LVN as his pet project talking about Kingsley and Iqbarae

8:27the quote Was this on locker cleanout Us players are the ones that are playing the game the changes in the players. I challenged the guys today Do more than what your jobs required If you're in shape run more do more If we got to play 80 snaps we play 80 beep in snaps We shouldn't be tired doing that we got a strain Come any plays we lost because we got out strained Those things can't happen people can't outwork us When your effort matches what you're trying to say in the locker room Oh Then it carries over more man I I dare people to beat me to the ball You know what I mean I'm running to the ball like my life depends on it and it does

9:33My life depends on the outcome of how this team plays. I need you to want to beat me to the ball I need you to want to beat me to the quarterback every play Everything's a competition even with other teammates. We're still competing to reach the same common goal. Oh snap Again Sounds like targeting That's pretty good line I don't know who he's talking about there 80 what's the targeting what am I missing with the targeting that he was he was targeting Roshan Gary is targeting When you know, I love it. I just I want to understand when you throw a flag for targeting and say they were aiming at the guy who threw a flag I think Jesse did yeah interpreters of I didn't see you threw a flag like this

10:33I said sounds like targeting if you'd like me to be more demonstrative the next time I want to use this catchphrase. I can throw a flag that's No, but I go I don't mind you doing that but Jason laughed like it was some inside joke that I should know I don't know it I didn't talk to the inside joke. I thought I was pretty direct. I'm sorry. That's I don't get it He was talking to Roshan Gary head hunting. I know but why does it sound like targeting sounds like I know Because he never actually says who he targeted when you're talking about questioning guys effort and running and beating you to the ball The plays that went viral for Roshan Gary this season where the ones where it looked like he quit mid play Chasing down quarterbacks when Micah Parsons is right right down Yeah, okay. I want to be crystal clear here the speech that Jason just read from Micah. It does sound is if he's calling out Uh Roshan Gary. It does sound that way in that. Yes I don't understand the targeting targeting is like a physical. I'm hitting you in the head

11:35Like that's why this doesn't make any sense to me. I just want to get my head wrapped around yeah I thought it was I know and I want to understand why it was clever because I don't disagree that it isn't clever I just don't understand it. Okay. Are you It's not literally a targeting penalty like head hunting. Oh, he clocked him though. If that's who he was referring to He clocked him pretty good. It's targeting and he clocked him so much that we're all trying to decipher it Continue Jesse as I want to know it's that you want to learn with the comments that you're not saying necessarily directed at someone Uh, yeah, it appears to be targeted at commenting on someone's performance someone being Roshan Gary that's why I said it sounds like targeting It be I don't get it. It's it's okay. I'm gonna move along because I don't want to get caught up and get circular I'm not interested in circularness. I don't get it what I do get is

12:37This tells me a lot that in Jason to your credit You thought it was super interesting when Micah said it after the season and you said Certainly felt like this was a Roshan Gary There's a lot of criticism of Roshan especially with the way he finished the season um This reiterates to me how blank and awesome Micah Parsons was Because that speech I mean he obviously nobody ever questioned his effort his greatness No, he is a dog. He's a You know, he's a closer. He's everything. He is everything that we wanted When Brian Goudekun's pulled the trigger on that trait. It's been everything that we wanted I think most of us will agree with that And then the leadership component which let's be honest was questioned by his last owner By his last owner. Yes, yes That I don't think anyone Including the how many owners do the Packers have 175,000? I don't think there's any of the 175,000 owners of the G&G

13:41That would question that and that speech right there Especially the way you were reading it you to thought this was a analysis library the way your energy was up Whoo that made me that made you as a teammate say Mm Let's blank and go like that was great that needs to be that needs to be looped up when the boys get back for OTAs If I'm the Packers AV media staff that's rolling in that locker room when they're going to do their first workout That's good stuff. Mm-hmm. Who does to you Micah? Yeah Again, I I mean when you're targeting that entire locker room if I was the Packers what when you reference snap counts when you reference Beating me to the care the ball carrier or the quarterback Again, I you know I don't know if that's fair though. Micah's a lot faster than he has he makes a lot of I've and I've said that on this very show

14:42The makes other people look a lot of people look slow compared to him, but Again During his time in green Bay I cannot speak to what Jerry Jones saw from him in Dallas or what Cowboys fans saw from him in Dallas during his time in green Bay We have seen nothing but maximum effort from him From Micah Parsons He set the standard last season now is that going to be the case two seasons from now I don't I don't know But this this did sound like he was referring Very much to one specific player Whether or not he was or not he's got plausible deniability. I was just talking generally. I wasn't talking about anybody specifically We all have to do this right I don't know you would never you would never have done this You would have never even implied where I could

15:43Interview you and you were taught you could have been talking about Marco and I would have been like oh I think you might be talking but you would have never even come close to saying something this way fair I would not correct So again it makes you wonder You know, maybe he was legitimately frustrated. I mean let's be clear When Micah Parsons was lost for the season The green Bay Packers never won another game And the next man The next man up mentality In part refers to when somebody goes down other people have to elevate their performance and for The sack less streak to continue from the other high paid pass Russia That is an indictment of his performance. They needed more from him And they didn't get more from him That is all facts so again, I

16:43There's a lot of interpretation going on here. I don't I'm not very comfortable when we get into those types of situations But the fact of the matter is he did not elevate his game if that was something that was frustrating To Micah Parsons that would it would make sense that that was Maybe what was going on there. All right That We can move on from Rashon Gary. I see some of the folks in the youtube comments Are starting to get a little bit restless. So I will move on and tell you instead About associated bank the best customer service in the industry. They've got the awards to prove it If you go to associated bank right now you can find out about early pay you can find out about credit monitoring About fraud protection And you can find out about all the great new perks that are coming To the brewers Checking accounts as the brewers get ready to open their season in a matter of days Go to a associated bank.com show your true colors as a badgers fan a packers fan or a brewers fan

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18:46On the packers off season Our buddy Matt Bowen Who we should have him on again As free agency approaches. I was texting with him this morning because I had read His uh piece on espn.com ranking the top 100 players available in free agency Uh your guy Tyler Linderbaum Is second on Matt's list Tray Hendrickson is first Um, by the way, Rashon Gary is going to turn 29 years old on December 3rd I was looking that up during the break Does that change in any way your opinion of whether you should Bring him back on a restructured slash pay-cutted deal No, I think if you can um Get him back here and get rid of some of the dead cap that when you would release him next year

19:46It would be worth it if you have to add any more dollars or do anything that will add on to the Dead cap hit when that happens you don't So that would be how I would approach this but no if you Think that he can give you The production because let let's be honest. I know fans are really disappointed with how he finished But depending on goody stats or the packer stats There's those a lot of production that Rashon Gary gave last year he did he is he is the opinion of me Sniff at 48 pressures or 60 pressures and seven and a half sex that is There is value there and So I know we can all sit here and delve on the last part of it and that's fair criticism no doubt But it's not as easy as just saying oh go get 15 sex. Oh, how many guys do that? Yeah, you know what this is Tosh This is what you got after Rob Demovsky for though

20:47Because you're paying premium Dollars and while Rob may have said that what you get paid shouldn't factor in Your expectations he was wrong right. I disagree with him as well But this if if you got this exact same production From Kingsley and Iqbaray on a rookie fourth or fifth round draft pick deal It's a totally different narrative This guy's out of 96 million dollar extension as a former first-round pick who went 11 games without a sack So it those duplet and rightfully so if if fans are gonna look back on the AJ Hawks career and say As the fifth overall pick he sucked it doesn't matter what you say because they are factoring in His draft status and his contract and in Rashon Gary's case Whether you like it or not and I know you and I are on the same page with this

21:47That factors in you paid him to be frankly if he had played at the level of the contract you gave him In October 2023 you don't have to trade for my comparisons And you have up both of your first-round picks This year and next year because he has elevated his game and he is a multi Double digit sacked guy But he's not he still is yet to have a double digit digit stack sack season um So all I just I just want to point out because yes Money and how much you get paid factors in in a big way expectations matter You're going to have higher expectations for certain people than others. That's just the reality of life So if you don't want to live in reality, that's fine. You don't have to I'm going to and the facts are Rashon Gary had a disappointing second half of the season The Packers are not going to pay him what is due because of that

22:49But I'm not going to sit here and just poo poo and say that he Stunk and was it productive? Yeah, I agree with you he had production But it's not at the value and by the way the NFL has a way Of rectifying those things unlike a lot of businesses The NFL will dictate what your market is off of the production and what they think you will be able to do in the future Rashon Gary didn't help himself with the way finished the season The Packers realize that other teams realize that and I think Rashon Gary will realize that But to act as if he can't play a lick and he stinks and I mean it's always that's part of the problem with some of the NFL media Is you're either a world beat or you stink. There's no boys good solid player Good solid players that get paid a ton of money get a lot of criticism That doesn't mean they're not a good solid player Um, he's not he's not good is he good enough

23:50That's 28 million dollars. No, no, not 28 If he's getting eight six million dollars, absolutely, he's good enough If if you had to choose All things being equal. I don't know what King's Lanark bar is market value is You mentioned earlier that there are some teams that are reported to be interested in him sniffing around. Yep, little sniffing Would you rather of Rashon Gary on this football team next year? Would you rather of King's Lanark bar? King's Lanark bar. Yeah, me too Uh, I want to get to Matt Bowen's piece because um, he has two Packers in the top ten of his Top 100 free agents and four Packers in his top 20 So 20% of the top 20 Cop picks. Love it So we will get to that after Towsh tells us Not about comp picks But about prize picks. Oh, that's good Jason. That's really good. March hoops are here

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25:59Next, it's Wildean Towsh. This is Wildean Towsh driven by Zimbrick Chevrolet in Sun Prairie on 100.5 ESPN see their full inventory at Zimbrick Chevrolet dot com So So our buddy Matt Bowen with his top 100 Available players in free agency And he has two packers in the top 10 And four total in the top 20 Towsh, would you like to work your way up from The bottom of the top 20 or would you like to work your way from the top down?

27:00Oh, let's go top down Let's go top down So he's got he's got Trey Hendrickson and your guy Tyler Linderbaum Uh, Trey Hendrickson. I'm not sure how I Like I love Matty Bowen man. I do Trey Hendrickson missed a lot of last season I think he's still obviously going to be a nice past russering. He'll be a nice fit for somebody But I feel like the luster or the shine is off him a little bit He did not do a lot last season. He was dealing with a variety of injuries and disgruntlement Contract stuff Played only seven out of 17 games. Well, I'll tell you what man It is tough for GMs in this league you It can't it's not just about money money obviously solves a ton of problems But Trey is a great example of Taken carry your guys If they're your guys take care of them because

28:02Do you feel like Trey was fully invested when you knew that the Bengals weren't invested? No That's that and that's my point to everybody And why I think goody should reevaluate Some of these you know second contract guys Because it is really tough to manage now college guys are getting paid I just saw there's a basketball player that played at Kansas I think his name is brawn last name brawn or bon And he was just kind of telling he was doing a long form pod and he's had a nice NBA career Like he's grinded out and he's made some money and and he said you know what man Had and it may be correct. I apologize if I'm wrong if it was Kansas or what but if I had gotten a million dollars what I was playing in college I don't think I'm grinded and getting to the NBA and playing it and I thought that was really powerful because that is interesting There is something because when you're 22 23 you think a million bucks is the world

29:05And for a lot of people you know, I don't want to poo poo that But you just think about the times you have to fight through to get better to push yourself to get to this spot Now these NFL scouts and GMs have to worry about How much of this is love and how much of this is work and how much is it going to be They have to worry about rookies The same way they now do when you give big boy contracts out to people And that's why when you know who you have in your building And if they are about the right things It might make more sense to pay a little bit more Because you know then the devil that maybe you don't wear your mercenary in people and when things get a little bit They're not there. I don't know if that makes sense, but it makes a ton of sense to me. It makes a ton of sense really good Uh, I just wish we knew who this person was that was so astute in there. Oh, let's say it was born Born Christian is to look at for their Zach from Kansas. There's Christian Brown B. R. A. U. N.

30:07He graduated a handful. Yeah, it could be oh, so brought a you any brown. He pronounces it brown B. R. A. Oh, that's me. Okay. Thank you Jesse for that research. Yeah, that's it Uh, so going back to the Packer's angle on this um I don't know if he's gonna put Malik first On the Packer's list or if it's gonna be Shido it's gonna be one of those two those are the two top 10 I'm gonna say Maddie B believes in Oh, neither Want you're you're right about one But you're not right about who the other person is in the top 10. Uh, we will reveal that. I'm gonna say he's got Shido He's got Shido in the top. You might be right Uh, we'll reveal that after we tell you that there's some breaking news From the NFC North Oh, oh The Beardown Chicago Bears Uh, per

31:08Diana Rossini and Tom Pelicero and Ian Rappaport and Adam Schaefter See it just makes you wonder how these insiders get this information all the time. No, they get it from their agent Uh, that's how they get it Yeah, well played. Thank you DJ Moore Is a bear no more Uh, he is being traded for a mid-round draft pick To the Buffalo Bills Oh So the Chicago Bears pick up a mid-round pick Uh, they will be obviously counting on Luther Burden Uh, and Rome adunzay Yeah, and then all those tight ends they've got with I don't know if come that'll be back or not But they obviously love Colston, Loveland Uh, who was ridiculed when they picked him by the ESPN Milwaukee crew led by Alex Stroff But they are moving on from DJ Moore

32:09And sending him To Buffalo. Does that you think that takes dobs out of the Buffalo market then Because that was where he was rumored to have the most interest after the combine I do believe it takes dobs out of that market. Yes So we will get to The four Packers in Matt Bowen's top 20 coming up next After I tell you about what Steinhoffels has got going on we were down in Milwaukee And I swung by the Steinhoffels over on the Greenfield Greendale area just to check things out Because you know we love Steinhoffels and they've been a great partner of ours From the very beginning of this show and right now I'm going to ask you a question Towsh Let me ask you so I'm ready to answer You spend more than 2500 hours a year on your mattress So why are you still sleeping on something that's just okay What are you doing? It's mattress madness

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35:11You Details continue to trickle out On the DJ Moore trade and as Ian Rappaport points out DJ Moore's most productive seasons came in Carolina In 2020 and 2021 when the offensive coordinator was Joe Brady the head coach now of the Buffalo Bills. All right. Let's get to this list though. We keep um failing to get to At number five in Matt Boen's rankings Cheeto Rashid Walker The number five free agent in Matt Boen's top 100 list Walker's past block win rate of 93.8% ranked 11th

36:12Among 68 qualifying offensive tackles His technique could still improve and he lacks a strong acre But he has the footwork and mobility to match the speed of edge rushers at a premium position Walker will see heavy interest In free agency. He is going to be 26 Years old Tosh It's a pretty good player that's going to be walking out the door not a friend He's not David Bakhtiari. It's pretty good football player not many are not many are yeah I think Maddie Bowen You know, there's a little bit and that's why it was interesting with Kurt Warner's comments in his analysis Seems like he was walking it back a little bit because he took a little shrapnel From some of his commentary on Malik but What a Ted Thompson Was Brian Goudekunst what do all general managers say the hardest thing to find Our big bodies that can move the good Lord only made some of the hardest people

37:12That is the hardest thing for these guys and if you look at guys get injured you can never have enough Good offensive lineman and there is a price to pay for that And somebody's going to find that out is she don't going to be in all pro I'm going to say probably not But is he a really good steady starting offensive tackle in this league absolutely he is and Someone is going to get a very good football player and he's going to be a very motivated football player So I think that that's You know, it's awesome for a green Bay They got four years at a very minimal amount of financial commitment And they're going to end up getting a third round pick in lieu of continuing to keep Shido and they hope Whom they feel is a much better athlete is going to be a stud out at left tackle This is the dice roll that you play When you're the when you're the green Bay Packers or teams yet. Don't know You know what you're getting with Shido they think they can be better

38:16We'll find out pretty early on next year if that is indeed the case Uh, he as you mentioned earlier seventh round pick started 48 games in the regular season Um, do you see any of you in Shido I mean, I mean, we've received some We played a lot of uh played a lot of football um both probably you looked at as Maybe not as athletic to play the spot, but no outside of that Shido's a lot longer longer arms, you know I don't know who could you know all of the other stuff, but you never played it on defeated season Everyone I did not uh everybody finds their way and they find the way What I think Shido has done a very good job and what I always tell People that want to play for a long time find out what you're good at And position yourself to getting that spot as many times as you can in a game If you're in offensive lineman and you're good at punching and you're good at you know or if you're a good anchor guy

39:20Whatever you're whatever your strengths are Force that opponent to do that more than he wants and as many times as you can possibly get in that position You do that. You're gonna have a nice successful long career It's their job to make you uncomfortable. It's your job to make yourself comfortable Words to live by that's really good at number 10 It is not Malik Willis It is quay walker Yeah There seem to be some diverse opinions on quay walker in the free agency ranking space among uh pundits and You know i'm gonna be honest with you Jay. I'm gonna be honest with you because I think everybody sees his talent He is a you know a high pit right a first-round draft pick yep 20 second and If i'm an opposing Team looking for a linebacker I'm asking myself Why don't green Bay want him?

40:22Because everything's there physically the physical skill set is there Why is green Bay not resigning him and keeping him as one of their core players? I always tell you from green Bay standpoint Why is that guy in the market because the players that teams love they don't get the market They don't let them get there And if franchise tag or they extend them earlier they do that Teams are looking at quay and saying yeah, what a talent flies around you know On the record he said he had an offer from the packers on the table in the fall That's what I heard from an unidentified journalist that wanted to stay anonymous that host Wildean touche Jesse Hey, he called me a journalist the other day Yeah, it's true. You're here. I said I think I said adjacent journalist right I think you're a loosely termed journalist. Oh loosely. Yes, here's what Maddie B said about quay walker walker's explosive traits

41:24Create playmaking upside he can cover ground as a run and hit defender plus He diagnosed the run game at a quicker rate in 2025 averaging 4.9 tackles on designed rushes per game 11th highest in the league Overall walker at two and a half sacks eight tackles for loss and four pass breakups I would say he never played at the level that you might have hoped for him But he got his temper under control. He was durable largely And he he got better as his career went on um I wonder if he is going to be not to the same degree But I wonder if he's going to be like Joe Shane's Xavier McKinney Where Joe Shane knew that he made a mistake letting McKinney out of his building I do wonder if two years from now Will quay walker be a guy that we're sitting there going boy They really should never let him get out of their building maybe not yeah Maybe he just is what he is and what he's been so far

42:26but uh Xavier McKinney became more than what he had been in New York With a change of scenery and I find myself wondering his way walker will say he was a pretty good player in New York Though too he was he was a pretty good player sometimes people just mismanaged and get um Get an impression that they can't get out of and just like I think the Romeo Dobbs scenario is going to showcase Hopefully Romeo goes on and can kind of get rid of that Quay walker obviously the way his career started as you kind of said you know some of the Meltdowns that he had You always wonder how much of that sticks in guys minds when they're talking Contracts like that stuff matters Uh Three walkers in the top 15 as Kenneth Walker is also in Matt Bowen's list and three Packers in the top 15 number 14 is Malik Willis Malik Willis With his dual threat traits and positive signs of development in Green Bay Willis is one of the top quarterbacks in free agency

43:31In four appearances including one start last season he completed 85.7% of his throws Rushed for 123 yards and scored four touchdowns. He'll be signed somewhere to start this march And then the fourth Packer in the top 20 you mentioned him Jason. Do you believe whoever do you believe whoever signs Malik Willis is going to be really happy with If they let's say let's split the difference here Three years 75 million 40 guaranteed 25 million sure. Okay. Do you think the Arizona Cardinals are going to look back and say I was a beautiful signing or the dolphins or whoever or you get to say Boy the Packers must really know what they're doing Um I am leery with him. I really like him. I really want him to succeed uh It is a small sample size like Kerr Warner took a lot of grief and 28 passes. Hope we can get him on

44:35Yeah, I mean 20 true dropbacks that he was referring to not screen passes not etc Um, it was interesting and I do I'm looking forward to talking to him He he sounds like he's more than willing to come on as just matter of when but uh, he's right about the sample size He just is And I don't think it's a shot at belief Uh, I think it's a fair question mark that said I think it's a shot it's a shot at Malik That is Well, it's because there's not a lot of evidence like he's not hitting the market with a lot of evidence And frankly that could be good or bad right like Daniel Jones hit the market when he was released by the giants and most he played a lot of football and it wasn't very good In New York you want to play off you want to play off game? I know, but he The and the Vikings had him in their building and didn't keep him there Then he obviously ruptured as a kille's which ruined his season which was off to a really good start in Indy

45:36So again, I don't I don't know what's gonna happen I think of Malik goes to Arizona with Michael floor if he goes Uh, obviously in Miami. They know him very well because it's green based south down there uh, I think I think it's going to be really situation dependent And if Aaron Rogers or we're going to talk about briefly in the 11 o'clock hour Uh, doesn't go to Minnesota and Malik Willis goes there. I will be very very very Interested to see how that plays out Uh, last so Did what did you end up saying you said they're going to say I mean bay knows what they're doing I I believe I never did because that's what I do here Which I number number 19 which way would you go number 19 would you go on number 19 is Romeo dobs Oh, you don't want to answer. Uh, I just don't I honestly don't know like I think if he goes to the right situation Jason and if he goes the wrong situation, he's going to stink That's the problem with playing quarterback in the NFL no blank

46:39That's pretty good insight Sounds like targeting Malik Willis goes to a good situation. He might be a good quarterback somewhere I didn't say might wow Romeo dobs is at number 19 on the list from Matt Bowen Dobs has the route running traits and foot quickness to uncover and he is more than willing to work the middle of the field on in-breaking concepts While the packers miss jaden read Christian Watson and Tucker craft over parts of last season Dobs average 13.2 yards per reception and caught five of his six touchdowns on red zone targets In short, he is a reliable pass catcher I don't know what the expectations will be for him with whoever signs him It'll be predicated how much they pay him he's gonna be he's gonna be a two He's not gonna be a one anywhere. He's gonna be a two for somebody and will teams be happy with him Is there number two? How much are they paying him

47:42Yeah, we'll have to wait and see what that number looks like for him Those are Matt Bowen's four packers in his top 100 in the top 20 When it comes to Legal representation when you've been injured in accident There's only a top one of one and that's Gruberloff says one call that's all four one four two seven six six six six six four one four two seven six six six six six six make the call Towshe was at the game last night. What did I see 26,000 dollars To the carbon cancer center at UW From I think I sent that to you. You did that's exactly right. That's what I'm referencing One of those giant checks being presented to UW Carbon Cancer Center from Gruberloff says sponsoring the charity stripe Every time the badgers make a free throw at the coal center They make a donation to the UW Carbon Cancer Center We will kick off the 11 o'clock hour. I want to be on record. I was not gonna talk about this guy

48:47Because he didn't really say anything yesterday other than that he likes Mike McCarthy Huh, we all know we all know better than that. We know better. What was that huh So it's hard getting you love Aaron Rogers. Let's just be honest about it. You do And that's nothing wrong with that. You can't quit a big part of your life. You may not love him. I love Aaron. I can't part of my life Yeah, you can't quit him. Just admit it No, I was perfectly wrong. I was I was as you probably noticed you never want to talk Aaron Rogers. No Come on now Towshe's gonna tell me what I want to talk and what I don't want to talk next. It's will be a Towshe Don't go anywhere. Another hour of will be in Towshe presented by pillow windows and doors of Wisconsin is coming up next on ESPN Wisconsin and the ESPN Wisconsin app