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Widespread bafflement and anger

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The extraordinary tale of how the Chagos deal went down in Number 10.

Plus, how long can Keir Starmer maintain his softly, softly approach to Donald Trump?

With the news that China's mega embassy has been approved, we hear about Gabriel's attempts to get his hands on a note sent by Boris Johnson to the Chinese embassy. And who else is heading into the arms of Reform UK?



Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times

Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times


Producer: Euan Dawtrey

Executive producer: Molly Guinness


Picture credit: Getty Images


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