Why This “Albo” Satirist Has Everyone Questioning The Original

0:00Welcome to another edition of Unemployable. That is Rupert DeGaz. All so known is the second Anthony Albanese. La Shriya. That is unbelievable. He's naive, he's inexperienced, he's the kid who used to go on all the marches and he's never grown up and he's the prime minister. Albanese is such a fool. Nothing will change. Came to in 2012, was a country where there were Aussie flags everywhere. Australia Day was an Australian Day. And then suddenly it was like I was here for five years. A friend went, it's invasion day. And I said, what? When a country loses its culture, when it loses its identity, it becomes weak. I don't know about you, but I'm feeling a lot poorer than I did five years ago. And I certainly think weakness is symptom of the society. Why do you think they keep putting their head in the sand and not take accountability? Albanese needs to be told, if you don't know the difference during Australian and migrant, you're the racist name.

1:00Welcome to another edition of Unemployable with your amazing host, Eric Machado. Apparently he's Portuguese, Obrigado, Portuguese, Canadian, big fan of Mark Carney loves the Mark Carney. That's a total lie. Ladies and gentlemen, Unemployable with Eric Machado. That is the best. That is unbelievable. Honestly, that is the best. That is Rupert de Gas. Honestly, also known as the second Anthony Albanese. And that's very important. Very important. Great to have you on the show. It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks for invocating me. You've been working with the team. I've been away a little bit for a little bit. And you've been working with the team. You've done some stuff with Adam. And this stuff you're doing is just, it puts a smile on people's faces. And I do. That's what people need right now.

2:02Yeah. Because there's so much negativity out there in the media and what's going on in the economy and in Australia. And you know what? Sometimes you just got to take the piss, have a laugh, have a good time. I mean, we've been here now for probably about half an hour before we started recording. And I can't stop recording him on my phone and just literally having a laugh. Now Rupert, most people know you at the moment for impersonating mainly Anthony Albany, but plenty others on the cabinet. Now, I was amazed that you told me not even a year ago, you didn't have an iPhone. You weren't kind of, I guess, in the vortex of social media. And you know, you've obviously had multiple acting roles. You know, you've done animations, thousands, you know, hundreds of not thousands of commercials and impressions, voiceovers. For some of the most popular brands

3:04and movies and commercials all over the world. Yeah. Which is quite interesting. So obviously, as you walk in, I'm kind of like, can you do this voice? And he's like, you don't do, you don't say that to a person that can impersonate multiple people. You know, oh, we're going to go and don't worry about it. It's okay. Oh, yes, more code of north. And come in. You guys are going to love this podcast because you're probably going to be about 100 different people by the time we're done this. I mean, out of anything you can do right now, and I know you do multiple things to lean in behind the scenes with voiceovers and stuff. And the beautiful thing with voiceovers is no one knows who you actually are. So you're kind of in behind the scenes. And we talked a lot about this off camera and, you know, how Hollywood and being an actor and how difficult it is and that kind of industry and what that's like. So being a voiceover and doing impressions and whatnot is probably not as bad. I would say, hey, as being an actor, to tell us a little bit about that.

4:06Well, we get. Yeah. I slipped into voices with dubbing with ADR, automatic, the automated dialogue replacement or additional dialogue replacement. There's an argument of what it actually means. Back in London in the late 80s, funnily enough. And, you know, getting paid for a half a day or a day to re-voice characters in obscure European television things was really good fun. And I suddenly thought aged 19 or 20, oh, I get to play all the parts. So I get to play the young prince and the old granddad. So I'm there behind a microphone in the dark studio and a basement in Soho age 20. You know, sort of playing old men like this. And then playing the young prince and going, I would never get cast to play either of those roles. I would be cast as what I look like because in TV and film, you tend to be cast on who you present as.

5:07Whereas I'm a character actor and character actors are fewer and further between now and nobody really wants character actors anymore. They, if there's a part from, I sure, let's, I don't know, Ben Kingsley would never be cast as Gandhi now. You hire a real Indian to play Gandhi. It would be worsting the world to cast a white person as Gandhi, even though Ben Kingsley is a quarter Indian. Just get away with it. But essentially he's British. And I think that I kind of saw that the writing on the wall going as a character actor who's just, I've got all these characters wanting to come out of me as a comedian would have on TV. A great way to actually earn a living is doing voices and going into studios. And that's when I got into animation and dubbing. I started doing the Japanese manga, the anime back in the early 90s. Um, we heard the Japanese in our cans and we saw the lines on the band below and get the beep, beep, beep, beep,

6:08you go, let's compose mother fungus and taste a nuclear shit. And that was the line. Oh my god, she's going to see the lot. Oh, and you just, you know, and you're in a dark room for the six hours. Eight of you just going, quick. Oh no, what are you doing? I know we're here. And you got this. Great fun. And then at the end of the day, they give you money. You know, this is great. You don't have to audition. Don't have to learn lines. Don't have to shave. Don't even have to get dressed. You don't want to show up. And you stand in front of a screen and you watch stuff. And I thought, I like this. I want to pursue this. And so I put a lot of my energies into that. And then a friend of mine said, have you thought doing commercials? You know, like TV commercials, radio commercials. I said, no, you know, I've got an agent. You should meet my agent. So I met his voice agent in London. And they still represent me now since 1994. So 30, what's that? 23 32. 32 years. I've had the same voice agent in London.

7:11And as you say, thousands and thousands and thousands of jobs later. And it's been very good for me. It's, and I've been very, very, and very grateful for those years. But we're living in different times now. And I'm now in my fifties. And I'm more versatile than I've ever been because I think the older you get, the better you get at things, the more experience you have, the more accomplished you become. But there's this weird, I don't want to get too political too soon. But there's this weird thing where when you get older, people seem to think you're not valued anymore. Maybe it's not the right word. Or they think you're too expensive. Well, there's something. There's a real cheapening at them. Everybody wants young and cheap. And it's like, well, you know what? Us Gen X's, we're very resilient. We've, you know, we were analogue natives and digital immigrants. And don't knock the Gen X's. We've been able to see round corners for years.

8:13We've got 30 years experience under our belts now. Make use of it. And so as someone in my fifties now, I think, why is it that I'm not working more? than I was when I was in my thirties. And it's purely because we're living in a world of ageism that nobody talks about. Everything's sexism, race, nobody's talking about ageism. And it, but it's real. It exists. Yeah. Just a quick one. An unapploable property. We are looking for a property development coach. But honestly, most people shouldn't apply. If you sold or developed one house, don't apply. If your experience is mostly courses, podcasts, books and theories, this isn't for you. We are looking for an experienced development manager or an independent developer with a verifiable track record across real sites, land developments, and multiple projects. And if you don't like dealing with people, this also isn't for you. This role is about coaching developers through real deals, reviewing feasibilities,

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10:16called the, we're calling it the unsackable series. So we're going to start doing some work with you. But it was really the, the Alba diaries, right? The Anthony Albanese impersonations that really captured our attention because I don't employable. We talk about multiple different things. And every once in a while, we weave in, yeah, all the tips. Yeah, economists and demographers. And obviously there's lots of things happening in the country at the moment. Lots of changes that have been made, which is uncomfortable for a lot of people. And would that has brought a lot of negativity to this country? I mean, a lot more than what I could remember since I've arrived in 2007. I know you've arrived in 2012. 2012, yeah. Yeah. From obviously the UK. And there's been a lot of change. Yeah. And the way you approach your content comes from a very different angle, which is, which is quite interesting. And now we're talking about this off camera. Like the people, you know, people have come up to you

11:16and said, Rupert, I'm surprised you don't have at least 250,000 followers. And then you have about 58,000 followers. Or so I think it was on Instagram last time I checked. And that's a pretty good number considering you just opened up an iPhone or a Galaxy, whatever you have, not even a year ago. But again, I think the people that would follow you are quite intelligent because the humor is a little bit different. The sarcasm is different. And a lot of people don't understand that. Yeah. Why out of anything that you can do, and I know you're still doing multiple things, but I can really see the angle that you're taking care, Australian politics. Why Australian politics? Well, I live here, number one. And so I have a vested interest in being a upstanding member of the community. And I'm proud Australian citizen. I became a citizen 10 years ago in 2016. And I take that contract very seriously.

12:17And I'm very disappointed. One of the reasons I left the UK was I was seeing the writing on the wall in England. And I couldn't really put a name to it. I didn't know what it was. I just had this gut feeling, something wasn't going in the right direction. Round about when Blair got into power. Everybody was elated when Tony Blair won, you know, new Labour. You know, he was like the new sort of saviour of Britain, you know, after that. And he was there to sort of, you know, bring it was going back in of cool Britannia oasis at number 10. And it was, it was this elation. It was cool, but everyone was Britain, Britain, Britain. I didn't vote Labour. I've never voted Labour in my life. I've never voted Conservative either. I've never been, I never barracked for a team. I always, my vote always went to the people whose policies I liked in a particular election. I've never been arrested on conservatory or rusted on Labour.

13:21I normally used to vote for the free sex party and the legalised cannabis party and the, you know, do it with the fuck you want party because at heart. And then I then I realised what libertarianism is. And I went, oh, that's my team. That's you. I'm an arco-capitalist. Oh, there we go. Have you made a, have you made a betad, can I call? So I suddenly became this kind of, but I didn't know at the time. I just thought, something's not right. Something's not sitting with me. And when I came to Australia, I felt back in 2012. I felt there was this, like, oh, this is, this is how England used to be. Where everybody smiles at each other in the streets and, it's a joyous place and people are happy and there's no stress because I was coming from London in, in the 2000s, which were very stressful, very busy. A lot of people, the Tony Blair opened the floodgates. We had huge amounts of immigration and the infrastructure couldn't cope. And I was feeling suffocated in London, like, really suffocated. Not only by people, but by noise, by smell of fuel.

14:24Air was dirty, the pollution. And I thought life's got to be better than this. And then Australia was this blue sky, sun, open, everybody, have a go, proud to be Australian. Peter Allen, you know. I felt a real sense of national pride here that I hadn't seen in the UK ever really, not since the 70s, and I was a kid. Because it had been quashed out of us. It can't be English. It can't be British. It's where we're universal. We're global. But Australia had this sense of Australian pride. And I've noticed that it all went about six years ago. I don't think it was Albanese in as much as I think it was the pandemic. I think really showed politicians for who they are, especially, you know, people like Dan Andrews in Victoria. And Anastasia Palische, up here in Queensland, I think suddenly,

15:26I just had this bang over the head. And when this is every bit of wrong, that we are working for these people. And so I started reading and researching. And obviously during the pandemic, everybody did deep dives into things. And I devoured books, a lot of books. And learned all about technocratism and managerialism and fabionism. And communism and libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism. And I started reading and connecting dots and figuring things out. And my visceral sense was to be angry about it. Because I think that's the fight or flight is you immediately go, you are either going to bury your head in the sand, which I don't think is helpful. Or you know, you've got to stand up and you know, don't be a lobster. You've got to get out of bed in the morning, eh? You know, it was Jordan, which say, and come on, get on with it.

16:28And I thought, right, I'm going to get on with it. And I'm going to have to laugh at these people instead. And I'm going to have to make fun of them. And I was brought up in the 80s and the 90s with a culture of holding politician's feet to the fire. Through satire, not through being angry, not through, I mean, look what's happened recently. You know, you've got, and where did come was murdered, you know, Nigel Farage gets death threats all the time. This is just not right that politicians are. So I think we need to have a laugh and we need to bring back a bit of comedy. Because I wasn't seeing any. I wasn't seeing any comedy. And on the adult thing, I looked at Albanese and every time I looked at America, I thought, you're just a channeled. You're just a big kid. And then something clicked in my head where I thought, ah, that's what it is. He's naive. He's inexperienced. He's the kid who used to go on all the marches in the 80s for anti this and anti that.

17:33And we were all, you know, Marxist, Raleigh Young. And he's never grown up. And he's the prime minister. And he's a fucking embarrassment. No, I can't be mad about that. He's, he was voted in fairly or not fairly with the preferential voting system is another debate. So my, what all I could do was laugh at that. And I think my job is instead of being angry for clickbait is to hold a mirror up and say, look at this fool. Look at the emperor. He's got no clothes on. I'm the kid going, the emperor's got no clothes on. And they're all going, yes, isn't, isn't, isn't, you know what I mean? The story of the emperor's new clothes, everybody knows that. No one else is doing Eric. I'm like, okay, I'll follow my source. I'm going to be the guy that says he ain't got no clothes on. And you're too dumb to not see it. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Yeah. I want to, I want to dig into that.

18:33But first I want to ask you a question around. You said you did a lot of research. Yeah. Right. You read a lot of books, learned about a lot of things. What did you figure out during that time? Because most people aren't going to be reading a lot of books, doing a lot of research and doing these things. But most people will be the first ones to talk without being well researched with all the research that you've done. What did you figure out? I figured out quietly because we were in a pandemic where if you've vocalized your thoughts about certain things, people alienated you. And I've, I figured out no one's coming to save you. I figured out you're born alone, you're diolone. I'm figured out, I figured out that government isn't on your side. I figured out that you got to look after your own health, mental health, physical health.

19:35I changed my diet. I used to be 115 kilos before before COVID. I went on to a carnival diet. I started to invest my, I'd started to use hard assets like Bitcoin and Gold as a savings vehicle. Yeah. I don't have a lot of money, but I was seeing my money in my bank account, Dwindle, and I knew the inflation is this invisible form of theft. And it's something that no government puts in their manifesto. We're going to take money away in inflation. They print money and nobody understands about the money printer. They don't understand about fractional reserve banking. When you read the creature from Jackal Island or you read Larry LaParde or you read Lyn Alden and you read books about money and how money works or safety and emuls and you read about the Bitcoin standard, the Fiat standard, Dominic Frisbee's book about Gold, Dominic Frisbee's book about tax, which is amazing, which is called daylight robbery. I mean, you read these books and you suddenly start connecting the dots and thinking

20:38as only one person who's going to make sure I'm okay and my family's okay and my community's okay and that's me. I can only look after ourselves. You know on an airplane they say put your own oxygen mask on first before you help others. We don't do that. So that's what I kind of figure out is you've got to be fit. You've got to be strong. You've got to be healthy. You've got to be smart. You've got to look after yourself because no one is coming to save you and when the shit hits the fan asking the government for help and then COVID just went, would see, there's the evidence. They had an other clue. Not a clue. Why do you think people don't want to know? Why do you think they keep putting their head in the sand and not take accountability? I think there's this, I think deep down human beings do want to plant their flag in the ground

21:39and they want to sail on their ship. I think it's a natural human instinct is to want to say this is what I've achieved. But I think our herd mentality as human beings as well, there is fear, it's the fight or flight thing we were talking about. We're afraid that if we plant our flag in the ground and say, this is where I'm taking my life, this is the direction I'm taking my life, we're afraid that we're going to be alienated from the group. We're going to be what's the word not expelled, what's the word? You know what I mean? A shun, you know, from the group. And we're also afraid that what if I'm wrong? So the safe option is to stay in this sort of, they call it blissful ignorance. Did I say ignorance is bliss? And I get that because not knowing about things and just getting up in the morning and my friend

22:39in the UK, fellow Canadian, like yourself, he said to me, we were having this political discussion years ago, we were watching Bill Hicks and George Carlin and we were laughing, you know, getting stoned and watching comedy was great. And he went, hey man, I just want to get up in the morning and I breakfast. I don't want to think about all this. And I got it, I totally got it. But I thought the opposite, I thought, I need to figure it out. I got to figure it out. You know, if you ask if you're naturally inquisitive, like I am, some people just aren't naturally inquisitive Eric. And that's fine. That's absolutely fine. But if you are naturally inquisitive, digging deep into something, you've got to be prepared to be confronted by what you find. Yes. It definitely is a bit of a rabbit hole. Yeah. Do you feel like people are slowly waking up? Yes. More than ever. Yes. I think people, a lot of people are waking up, I think, you know, back in 2016, for instance,

23:44I was like, never Trumper, you know. Hillary. I mean, come on, really? 10 years later, I'm like, go Trump. Yeah. 100%. 10 years ago, I was like, pulling what? Polly pants down. Please explain. You know, I'd have been like, no, Polly, no, now I'm like, yeah, good on you girl, you go for it. You know, it's like people are waking up because I think they're realizing that that just being lonely too constantly, by all politicians, by bankers, by corporate oligarchs, everybody, the oligarchy, the world economic form, people are suddenly going, wait a second. This technocratic managerial class that the world is kind of becoming. Anybody with any freedom of will can see that there's something wrong with this picture. And the question is, what do you do about it? Because it is white-anting. It's white-anting. It's way into every, everything's on an app, everything's a q-arch.

24:48Where does this sumptuous stop? We are not as human beings, pro, we are not fit to see this advancing technology is moving so fast, Eric, it's moving at such a speed. We need simplicity. We're in because mental health issue, you know, everything is all coming at once. There's a lot of anger. There's a lot of fear, a lot of mental health issues, and I think we just need to slow. I agree. Yeah. I have a saying, I keep telling people, and it's like, we're the most connected we've ever been, and then I pick up the mobile phone, which we are. The most connected, right? You, you're seeing it to so many different people's lives online digitally. Yeah, you said we're the most disconnected. Lonely, we have ever been, yeah, as a human race, in my opinion, because people don't just stop over at the house anymore. You need to put it in the calendar, you need to make sure the house is clean. There's all these rules. When I grew up, it was opened or policy at my house. There was always someone coming in and out and dropping something off and picking something up,

25:50and that's gone, right? And that's why what's, it's uncomfortable to do anything about it. Yeah. It really is. That's why we started Unemployable three years ago. We made a decision going, you know what? Let's talk. Let's talk about multiple things. Let's talk about wealth creation. Let's talk about business. Let's talk about property. And then we realized, holy shit, we got to talk about politics. And we got to talk about issues. This is what a lot of the, where that a lot of the eyeballs are at, and what people want to want to hear. Yep. Now, for you, right, you've been in behind a microphone. Right. No, no, no, no. You were acting, but majority reason, right, before the Abu Dairi's, or not here behind a microphone, like you said, I didn't have to shave, I could do it naked. No one would know the difference. All they're listening to is a voice. And they're picturing who that person is. And that person is someone else that you're pretending to be anyways. Yeah. So you spend a career being other people's words.

26:53Yes. What's different about writing the actual diagnosis yourself now, right? Right. Um, not just performing someone else's, because now you're actually doing the uncomfortable thing based on the education that I can see, that you've well researched and going, you know what? I actually want to contribute to society in a different way. And I can see that through what you're doing with the Abu Dairi's, because it's not just clicks. It's not just followers. I can see there's a deeper reasoning for this, because he set off camera. Everything is negative. Everything is negative. Right. Now even in my feed, everything is negative. And what you're trying to do is actually put a positive spin, right, on a negative topic. How does that feel going from in behind, you know, no one knows who you are to now,

27:56everybody knows that Rupert DeGas that follows you is Albanese. Can be, you know, uh, uh, uh, Penny Wong, can be Tony Burke or Chris Bowen or any of these public people. Well, I've been doing this for decades, right? So I, I did a show called News Review back in the 90s in London, at the Canon Cafe Theatre, and it was a political satire show, impressions, song sketches. Um, you know, we used to write stuff for Rory Bremner, and, uh, people like that. And they, his writers from Channel 4 would come and see our show. We took our show to Edinburgh. We were nominated for the parier in 97, you know, so they were, and I had to know, I've John Major, and I'll get I sort of, I'll build Clinton. We used to do our cons and impersonations, and, you know, I did not have. And, we were doing, and I can judge Debbie Persian, sort of like, um, there we are, she'll f- you know, we're gonna go to, uh, Gunn Air Rack, and should I'm saying and everything. And we kind of be doing all the characters and all the, you know, and, um, who else we were doing, got you, you know, Prince Charles of the Titan, of course, and he was a prince, and he

28:58would juxtapose Diana before she'd die. But our last show was the night Diana died in Paris, of Edinburgh, August 1997, came off stage, last show, taking the train back to London the following day, and everyone's in the bar looking at the TV with this, wow, the player, this car crash in Paris. And, you know, our actress, um, I can't remember her name, charity, that was her name. It was playing Diana, and it was to the tune of Abbers Fernando, oh, Camilla, you know, there was someone with the air that night, her clothes were shied, Camilla, you know, so, and that's what we did. So I've been in this satirical musical theatre kind of world for a long time. And then, after that, I was doing Bob the Builder and Thomas the Tank Engine, and so I was spending 10 years behind microphones. You know, talking like, you see, I'm like, Bob, where are we going? Is that what I'm, right? So I was always someone else, and we would have such a laugh recording, and we'd do a blue version, and I mean, the first take of the Bob the Builder

30:00Scritz were adults, only. No, I don't even know if anybody ever kept them, but it was how we could get out all the innuendo from the script, so that when we read the script properly for the five-year-olds, it wasn't tinged with the innuendo. But I noticed that all that was being taken away, all the fun from theatre, from satire, from animation, from voiceovers, from video games, the fun was being replaced with a managerial HR corporate. And my blood boiled. I was so mad. I was just like, I can't do this. It isn't fun anymore. So the transitioning to doing Albanese and to doing my videos for on Instagram and YouTube, I'm doing exactly the same as I was doing 20 years ago. I'm not having fun again, you know? Because when I used to read other people's scripts 20 years ago, we'd all be in the room together, and it would be, we could all improvise and have fun,

31:01and it felt like a real collaboration. But then when the industry became corporatized with the HR middle management nightmare, which everything seems to have become now, hey, AI, it's going to take all those jobs. If you're in middle management, what's out? Go to your command to getcha. So what happened is I felt that the collaboration element went suddenly, it was if I wanted to improvise a line, it would have been known that we have to check with compliance and the lawyers have to look at that. And that has to go through several layers of, you're going, what? I thought we were being creative. I thought we were making comedy. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're making a product. Again, I just, everything, my warning signs went up, and I went time to get out, time to get out of this game. And I'm happy to do that with advertising, because that's the deal with advertising. Yeah, you're selling a product, you got to do it with a client once you do, but for kids cartoon suddenly it became, you know,

32:03so doing the comedy, doing the satire for me is my creative outlet. It's my way of saying, you know, I've still got it. And, you know, I love putting on the white wig and, you know, doing David Attenborough talking, and he's a hundred now. And of course, the older he's got, the teeth sound, he's really sounding even older. So I've been doing Attenborough for 30 years, and there's a astronomical Patrick Moore, who died 10 years ago, something, and when he was younger, he saw a sweat like that. That's how I spoke when he was in 1950s and 60s on British television. And he's seen a guy older and older, but there's a time he was thought to be in 80s before he was on here. So I've been doing these impersonations for years. And now I've got this following on Instagram and YouTube. I thought I'm going to get some wigs, get some costumes, and bring these characters out of a draw that have been hiding in a draw for 20 years. Oh, it is the oldies, but the goldies, that are new generation have never seen. So to me, it is having fun, showing off, having a laugh, giving other people a laugh.

33:07And if the message can be, you're being lied to and careful, you know, careful of these wolves in sheep's clothing, what was it? You're spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down, right? Yeah, definitely. I mean, you're almost speaking the truth in the skies, you know? That's what satire is, isn't it? Yeah. It's because, you know, a blue, we can all tell a blue joke. We can all do a fart gag. We can all go on Instagram and do a crap and do a joke and swear. We can say, fuck and get a million followers or whatever. I don't swear in any of my things. And when I think I've sworn as Albanese once in, however many have done 50, 60 skits, I've done as Albanese like one a week, I think I've sworn once. It earned it. You've got to earn it. Every, every kind of, I did the melons won the Ajay Jai talking about the melons. Now, it's very nervous about doing this because, you know, it's not very respect, but no, it's Albanese's doing it. It's not me doing it.

34:08Yeah. I am taking the piss out of who I think is a pure, all gaslighting misogynist pig. I'm taking, it's not me. So when I'm saying Tanya Piappicec and Penny Wong are really loyal members of the Labor Party Apparachic, I'm making a joke about Albo doing it. But I'm also saying they're part of a socialist, you know, draw the, tow the party line or you're out. You know, what I love about what you're doing is majority of people won't read the books. They won't do the research. Yeah. But a lot of them will watch a two-minute skit. Right. Three or four times. Yeah. Because most people have to watch it a couple times to actually comprehend what is actually trying to be set. Yeah. And that's why I love what you're doing. One, it's amusing as hell. Thank you. But two, it's actually getting a message out there that a lot of people would not get either wise through just hate and clickbait and these types of things.

35:11And that's why, you know, the team, us as a team want to do more with you and think we could, you know, like just before recording this. We're, you know, the teleprompers out there going out. We're going to make this, yeah, we're going to do some really cool stuff, right? Because we believe in what you do. And I think it's getting a very good message out now. You've mentioned, you know, Albo is like tyranny of nice. Yeah. What do you mean by that? Oh boy. Where do I start? The tyranny of nice. I'm actually writing a script at the moment. While I was writing it this morning. Probably going to film it over the weekend. How can I say this without being, oh, I don't care, I saw it. So Barnaby Joyce came out the other day and said something about, you know, one nation's the gayest party or whatever and, you know, Yadda Yadda.

36:11And then, and then the Labour party came out and then ABC said, well, you know, Pauline Hanson won't be on a on a float in Mardi Gras and she said, no, and Barnaby said, oh, I'm going to Mardi Gras. Now, what I think the tyranny of nice is just because, okay, I hate these, I don't know if you have ever seen that 60 minutes with Morgan Freeman. And the guy says to him, how do we, he said, what are you doing for Black History Month? I was out. I'm not doing anything for Black History Month. You know, because why do we, why do we get a month? He goes, well, you know, a Black History is American History, why do we get him? I said, are you Jewish? He said, yeah, I'm Jewish. He said, where's your month? Do you have a Jewish month? No, I don't want to say I don't want a Black History Month. And then, discuss, how do we, how do we stop, how do we deal with racism? Morgan Freeman says, stop talking about it.

37:12It's as simple as that. Now, I've been in show business for years, okay? I have a lot of gay friends. I have two trans friends. I tell you what, none of them vote Labour, okay? But the Labour Party and the Fabian, nice, the kind people are like, oh, the LGBTQIA plus bus community, the Black community, the Italian community, Portuguese community, British, sorry, fuck off with your communities, right? If you're, why is it that a 60-year-old white man, politician, has the audacity to assume that just because you are gay or lesbian, you love Maddie Grah and are going to vote Labour. Is that because that person thinks that that gay or lesbian person is less than them?

38:18Have a handout. Do you read Thomas Sol? No, okay, so Thomas Sol, he's in his 90s now, brought up in the projects in New York and Harlem, right? Huge and intellectual giant. He goes, oh, he talks a lot about race hustling. Everybody's hustling now because we're in this oppressor oppressed victim thing. And this tyranny of nice that is perpetuated by this leftist, Fabian, cultural Marxist, whatever you want to call it, of, Biden did, Kamala Harris did, they all do it. Mamdani does it. It's all this sort of, oh, you're gay. Oh, you're gay. I've got a lot of fucking videos. It's pity, oh, Black people, oh, Muslim people, hang on. Listen, spoiler alert, you're either a dick or you're not a dick, right? There are straight dickheads, there are gay dickheads, there are Muslim dickheads, there are Black dickheads, there are indigenous dickheads.

39:18But they're also really nice straight people, really nice gay people, really nice indigenous people. It's got nothing to do with your immutable quality. So why don't we talk about the tyranny of nice? What I mean is, when the left decides through identity politics, to see what you are, instead of who you are, as Martin Luther King said, of a content of one's character, when you focus on somebody's melanin or how they choose to dress or who they choose to share a bed with, and then you give them special dispensation because they've been underprivileged in the past. Okay, note the word the past. Yes, gay people have had a terrible time of it, as I've trans people, as I've black people, of course, but we're living in 2026. I've yet to be told by any trans person what rights they don't have that I have. Can't name one because we're living in a equal democracy. And so the tyranny of nice is when

40:24people say, you need help, you need a hand, you need a lift up. And this is where DI diversity, equity and inclusion, I think, is insidiously racist and insidiously sexist. I'm available for children's parties, by the way. And that annoys me. And that I have to laugh at because I don't care how you vote at the, but I don't know how I'm going to vote at the ballot box. I have no idea till I walk in there. I'm not like, I'm politically homeless or politically non-binary. I'm not attached to anybody, you know what I mean. But if you're lying to me and you're gaslighting me and you're telling me, I'm privileged because I'm white or because I'm straight or because I'm a man, hey, well, guess what? I'm not. I'm privileged because I was born in London. That's a pretty big privilege, but I could be, I could be sitting here as a gay black man and be born in London and still be equally as privileged as I am. It's got nothing to do with my sexuality or my race. They use it to their advantages. They use it to segregate in the segregation.

41:29It just continues. It's dividing conscience. It's always a day to end. We don't want to be divided. We're, we're, we're, we're, we're up. When there's, when there's, when there's conflict, there's opportunity. Of course. Right. Of course there is. I don't, I don't not remember the world is divided as it is now. I agree. And yet since I can remember. Our Prime Minister dares, has the audacity to say, social cohesion, multiculturalism, yeah, strength, we're more divided than ever. I'm going, yeah, look in the mirror. Dude, you caused it. And it's this utter gaslight. They all do it. Hearing Katie Gallagher and Penny Wong and Clare O'Neill, they go on and on about how divided we are. And he'd like, if you want to, if you want us to be united, stop going on about it. Stop going on about the color of his skin or your gender or your sexuality. Nobody cares. Are you, do you work hard? Are you a good person? Are you decent? Are you honest? Are you kind? Are you, are you full of love instead of hate?

42:32That's all that matters. Maybe they don't want us to be united. And that's why you've got to ask why? That is the big, that is the biggest question, right? Now, like, what a bit heavy, I'm so it's good. I'm so sorry. But you know, sometimes she got to just get a little bit serious. The thing is, asking these questions brings the deeper purpose on why you're actually doing it. Some people can understand the reasoning behind it. Like, I can sit here and talk to you off camera and on camera and realize, you're not just a comedian, you're not just a impersonator, you're not just a person that's voice overs or an actor, you're very well educated, human being. I've tried to be. Yeah. Yeah. That can sit here and say, you know what, I can talk about these things and I can talk about them confidently because I've done the work. And I think a big issue is, and I'm trying to do more of this work, right? So I can sit here confidently and talk about certain issues as well because I've never been a political guy ever, right? I could

43:33be foreign and pull back and care less. Well, I know that I'm interviewing people and senators and politicians and different things. It is now something that's critical in what we are doing. You said we need to know enough to be dangerous, but ask our job is to ask the right questions. So you can then go and extrapolate the things that you've learned to tell the other people that aren't doing the work. So they can actually say, ah, you know what, I'm going to go and read that book now or I'm going to go follow you and learn a little bit more about what's going on. You've also mentioned weak men era of politics. And I can just see like I just sound like yes, hands up, amen, right? Yeah. What does what does this week version look like in your opinion? But what does a strong version look like? Because I go like this.

44:35Week is what we're dealing with now. I think leader, I look at Donald Trump. What do you like him or not? I think he is a strong leader. Like him or not. Yeah. I look at other prime ministers in different countries and I look at very weak leadership. That's how I see it. How do you see it? Well, I agree with you. Um, I've a type of care star. The cable or television that I'd spoke. I just saw a weak robot who was in the headlights like a rabbit. And now they've got, you know, under burn them. It was just sort, you know, he saw a weak as well, but he's pretending to be strong. He's your mate. He's stronger. I look at Andy Burnham and I go, he's a stronger man than Kirstama. Kirstama, he just exuded weak. Tony Blair was strong. Margaret Thatcher was strong. I think David Cameron was weak. Nick Clegg was weak. Bob Hawke was strong. Paul Keating was strong.

45:39I think Albania is weak. And we all know the saying, you know, good times, you will know that one, right? Strong men win in the next times, et cetera. I don't need to repeat that. Um, I think that the weakness has come from a number of areas. A, I think things are cyclical because of that saying we know things are cyclical, but I think they've been exacerbated by by diet. They've been exacerbated by entitlement. They've been exacerbated by lack of exercise. They've been exacerbated by lack of debate, by lack of education, by lack of reading. And I certainly think weakness is a symptom of a society that has lost its way and has lost. Like people say that when Pauline made that comment about monoculture, which was an unfortunate comment because of me, it just sounds like yogurt. Um, you know, it's like, um, it was an unfortunate

46:43way of putting it, but I understood what she said. I get why she said it. She doesn't articulate her words very well. That's not what, that's not her job. So my job is to be an, be an articulate person. Her job is not to be articulate. It'd be better if she was, but she's not. That's okay. And the way they jumped on her, but she said it from a position of strength. And I think when a, when a country loses its culture, when it loses its identity, it becomes weak because a country, like a family, like a town, like a community can only stick together because the sum of its parts, because all its parts are strong enough that the sum of its parts are strong, like a chain. And as soon as there's a weak link in the chain, everything falls apart. Now what we've seen, I mean, this is going to be a very, I'm going to go around and circles with this, you know, what has Donald Trump got him going to sort of go around and then have the little thing to come back to the wave. You know, sort of bring the wave in and then bring it back. Um, but it's, when you look at architecture, when you look at music, when you look at our films,

47:44nothing's inspiring anymore. Everything is bland. Everything is beige, including an article I wrote recently for campaign brief about how voiceovers and advertising has become beige, everything's become bland and safe. And, and for one of a better expression, conservative, I don't think it is, it doesn't conserve anything. I just think it's boring. Conservative does not mean boring. Conservative means to conserve good things and progressive means to get rid of the bad things. And they conservatism and progressivism can live as bad mates they can. And this is the, the same way I think most people with common sense are, they're kind of most people in the center, which I would consider myself in the center. Um, believe that, believe that you need a bit of conservatism and a bit of progressivism. One is not exclusive of the other. Um, and I think the weakness is in, uh, how can I put this, giving up on what we have that's good. We've got a lot to be proud of the Western civilization. I don't know if you've read Constantine Kissin's book.

48:48Um, I love a, an immigrants love letter to the West. Very good book. Um, he's basically saying, look, you know, the Western civilization gave the world all these amazing things. Why are we slagging them off? Why are we saying, oh, but, you know, look at the Muslims feel about it. What's I got to do with the price of bread? Let's be proud of our great architecture and our great music and our great science, you know, but nobody's doing that anymore. You look at cars now, they all look the same. You look at buildings. I mean, they're just boxes. Architecture is so, I mean, I've been walking around here, walking around the Gold Coast. I haven't seen any pretty buildings. They're all really ugly. That's why I love going to Europe. We just got back from Europe and is your eye wanders. You know, I wonder nothing is the same. Yeah, and that takes strength. It takes courage to, to, to design to find your inner self. It's not about ego. So as Carl, Carl Jung talks about ego and self, and you know, I rego is this now, now practical, you know, me, me. The self is much more spiritual. You know, it's much more about what, where, where, where can I take

49:51this? Right? And I look around and I don't see things that are inspiring. Our food is not inspiring. And so the food manufacturers go, well, here's more process shit. We'll make cheap processed foods. So we've got a generation of kids, especially the zoomers these days and young millennials, who, as far as I know, haven't actually eaten any healthy foods there in entire lives. I was on the train yesterday in New South Wales and there was a grandmother with these two tiny little kids, maybe two and three years old with her. And she just kept giving them chocolate and crisps and, and soft drinks at three years old. Am I, why are you poisoning these kids? Well, you know, I snack on built on, right? Built on. And just like no other generation has been this unhealthy and un, and nutrient deficient foods make you weak. Being told as from a child, you know, well done, darling, you're the best, you can do anything. That's a lie. You know, when I don't have children, so it's not fair for

50:56me to look to, to, to, what else tell other people? What else would you say? I don't know, but I, I, I, I would want to bring my children up to be resilient. I don't want to bring my children up to, to be expecting that the world knows them. I, all I can go is what I was told as a kid is a gen X or I was told by my mother, the world doesn't know you were living, pull up your socks. If you fall out of a tree, well, you shouldn't have fallen out of a tree, you know, ow, don't cry. Yep. You know, no one's listening, no one cares. Oh, that's so cool. No, it's not. It makes tough, makes you resilient. Yeah, resilient, resilience is the thing of the past. It's becoming a major, major problem. But we have is the problem is we have then these, these, these sort of manosphere influences like the Androtates of this one. Yes. That then talk to these 18, 19 year old boys who are so lost, who don't know how to talk to girls, who think you watch the Netflix document. I watched the first five minutes, Eric. I could not cope with the assholeness of, oh, I saw it next

52:01hill, I will. And it was like you're saying, oh, here's my thing that I'm selling, you know, all these kids are on betting apps. They're all, they're all, but there's a few good things coming out of it. These, these young boys are going, I'm going to increase my, my meat because yeah, you should be eating meat, but they're being told it's because it's going to make you butcher and more testosterone. Well, you'll do that. But actually, it's about cholesterol. So it gets your brain working because of the neuroplasticity in your head because you're still a child and neuroplasticity in our brains keeps going until 25. I think AI should be banned for anyone under 25 because I love AI. I think it's brilliant, but not for if you're under 25 because why I saw the developing. Yeah. The wires are still developing. So kids are losing their resilience. They're losing their ability to think, they're losing their ability to connect dots. They eat in crap. So there is all this weakness. And then they get told by the boomers who are in politics and the GeneXs. It's not your fault. Here. Here's a five percent. Here's his money. And as Margaret

53:04Thatcher said, socialism's great until you run out of other people's money. And that's right. You know, I don't know about you, but I'm feeling a lot poorer than I did five years ago. And I own good money. I'm, you know, I'm a high income. You're okay. But I'm going, I'm going, I'm not paying 650 for a fucking coffee. Piss off. No, I'll make it at home. What? How much? $65 for a stake. I'll go to the butchers and I'll get my own and make it at home. So I don't yet as nearly as much as they used to. And I'm one of the people that can afford to. But I will not feed this, this system that as Rupert Lo calls it rewarding, um, indolence, you know, laziness, um, letting kids live in their parents' basements, playing video games and smoking bongs. Yeah, we all did that. I played video games and smoked bongs. But you moved out of here. You moved out of, right? You're not 45, still doing it. Yeah. Like, so this is the weakness. And but the weakness does weak men do bring,

54:08hard times and hard times to bring the strong men. And I think that I don't think the strong men are going to come from the Andrew Tates of this world. But my nephew is 16. He plays rugby. He eats meat. Uh, he eats vegetables as well. But he's not too many. I'm a foreign carnival that we can have all over the graph. That's about it. Um, that's a podcast. Yeah. But, uh, I see Jen Alfa as reject, they're rejecting a lot of the TikTok. They're rejecting a lot of the Instagram. They're picking up books. They're learning, you know, I know 16 year olds, 15 year olds who are, are dollar cost averaging into Bitcoin. Um, the pendulum, the pendulum's sweet, you know, yeah. And I think we're going to, this era is coming out when I looked at all those kids at the Pauline Hanson protest the other day. Seriously, what a bunch of morons. I mean, I don't kid kids protesting great. Good on you. But every single interview, all they all came across is utterly stupid, thick as shit,

55:14uninformed idiots. And you're like, if you're gonna, I was political, you said you weren't political, I've been political all my life. I was a member of the green party. I ran for office for the green. Wow. I was a full on tree hugging environmentalist. And I still am. I'm very much passionate about the environment. I just realized that net zero is unachievable in our lifetime. Yes, you should name for net zero. But slowly, we'll never see net zero in our lifetimes to push it is this pushing technology just we can't do it that fast. I'd love to see the world red itself for fossil fuels, but slow it down. We'll get there. We'll get their baby. You know, we'll get there. Let's just put load of solar, solar farms in the Nullabore. Oh, no, we can't do that. Oh, no, I can't do that. Why? Oh, let's build a plastics recycling factory in southern islands. Why? Why are they doing that? Why are they building a plastics recycling factory in the southern islands that will poison the the the Warrigamber Dam, which feeds Sydney's water basin. And the government and the state have

56:16rubber stamped this thing. And it's a Chinese company. Why? Why isn't it going out to Western Australia or to the middle of nowhere? Because it's Aboriginal homeland and whatever. Yeah, three people might live. This is the corruption that people don't see. People don't. Right. The majority of people, again, are too busy scrolling to even understand these things are actually happening. And I think that's one of the biggest problems there is is what we don't realize is when you swipe up, when you open up your phone, you're seeing your algorithm, no one else's. So that world, yeah, you think everyone else is in that same world. You're old. Little like a shambah. Yeah. But all you are, yeah, exactly. You're in your echo chamber. And that's what it is. And I think that's the biggest thing. Yeah. Right. Right now, this becoming a problem for a lot of people. And that's why I enjoy traveling and our family enjoy traveling. And we pull the kids out of school. Great. Right. And we take them traveling and we get people going, what do you mean you pull them out for three weeks? Are you kidding me? Three weeks. My school would never allow that as the amount of learning that's

57:22inside. They're doing while they're overseas. Yeah. The echo chamber is different. And this is now in 20. We started this. I was taken out of school at eight. And my brother was six and a half. My mother just took us out of school. Yeah. And we moved to Spain. Yeah. And we lived there for a year and a half. That's what my wife did. Yeah. She's. We were hippies. We lived on a hippie commune. Yeah. Didn't go to school. Yeah. Bilingual Spanish in three months. Yeah. I forgot most of it. But, yeah, you know, but this is, listen to the Beatles. And, you know, and it's just like, and I think us as humans need more of that in our lives. Yeah. I think we need less seriousness, a bit more openness, a bit more freedom. Yeah. Just, you know, rather than just sitting here, doing the same mundane routine thing over and over and over again, like everyone else is doing. It's beige. No one's doing anything different. Yeah. And what I see is people need to be led.

58:22People want to be led. They do. And they want to be led by strong people. Yeah. They want to be led by strong women. They want to be led by strong men. Yes. And that's why I was assuming you're doing what you're doing. And that's why we're doing what we're doing and trying to get this out there. Yeah. And make your own decisions. People need to make their own decisions with the information that can take in because the reality is most people won't do the work. Most people won't read the books. But if you can try and make a little bit of change, right? Yes. That's what drives me. Like we had an event on the weekend. We had full-today on a global property event. People from all over the country flying in. And the change it's made in people is it's incredible. Like it is, it is, like it's mind-boggling, right? The change that you see in people. Yeah. To the point now, we're still getting DMs and messages and videos about how life-changing that one event was bringing over those people and just making them believe in themselves. We have another one coming up in Bali.

59:24Yeah. And so on. And on the 10th, we've got multiple people joining us in Bali for an event to get out of your comfort zone, meet people, network, shake hands, get away from the mobile song. Yes. Get in front of people. Yeah, right. Build some confidence up. Tell people what value you can add to their lives and how you can help. And I think that's what we need to be doing more and more and more of. As Gandhi said, be the change you want to see. Correct. You can't expect other people. It goes back to no one's coming to save you. You can't expect the government to bail you out of everything. Now, I'm quite happy paying taxes. I just don't want to pay taxes if I'm not getting much in return. And at the moment, we're not getting much in return. I think there's a social contract. When any in any decent society, there's a social contract. We pay our taxes. We get something in return. But we also need some freedom, some liberty, some agency. And when our agency is taken away bit by bit by bit by bit by bit. And our taxes are going up a bit by bit by bit by bit by bit.

1:00:26The balance, the balance is off totally off. And then people like you and I have to go out there and say, right, I have to speak up about this and I have to find my tribe because we're losing, because of the phone, we're losing our tribes. I've met more wonderful people since I have started doing this as a result of this and have had more experiences. And my gratitude to that is immense because it's like being anti-Fragile. Keep throwing shit at me. I'm just going to get stronger. You're not going to bring me down. That's resilience. Resilience. That's what we need more of. Yeah. What's the version of 2012? Right? Take you back to 2012. The opportunity, Australia, this beautiful place that you saw, that you feel isn't there anymore. And do you think it will ever

1:01:28come back? Oh, well, you know, I see sadness in your eyes. I read that question. There is sadness. There was a lot of sadness. When I look at Scott, for instance, Shalachal and Pauline, and I look at on Instagram, I look at people who are proud to say they're Australian and they want to fly the Australian flag. That's the Australia I came to in 2012 was a country where the Aussie flag was everywhere. Australia day was Australia day. And then suddenly it was like I was here for five years and then someone a friend went, it's invasion day. And I said, what? I had no idea. It wasn't drummed into me at school. I wasn't drummed into me that white man is evil and came and took away Blackfella. And it's like,

1:02:31I don't get it. I'm an immigrant here. And I'm an immigrant that came to Australia and saw a country that had a beautifully multiracial rainbow of different cultures in terms of food and languages and all that. But it was under the umbrella. It was under the umbrella that had the Southern Cross on it. If you had asked me in 2012, do you think we'll ever reach a stage where people are saying that having the union flag and it's not called a union jack, which the most immediate could call it, it's going to only be a jack if it's on the sea. It's a union flag. I'm a peasant. I can't believe that they were having a debate last a couple of weeks ago at the trade unions thing in Adelaide about, or I can't remember where it was, that the union flag should be removed from the Australian flag because it's racist or whatever, or reminds of the colonial

1:03:33part. I can't believe we're having these conversations. I can't believe that when you have people getting together who all they want to do is say that they want to live under the Australian. When you see Tom the Robinson's UK March, for instance, and everyone's there with their union flags and the St George's Cross and everything, there were Sikhs, there were blacks, there were Browns, everybody, Gays, straight, whatever, but they all were under this flag. But the mainstream media said they were all racist far right bigots. The same thing happened here. There have been several marches and celebrations of Australianness. And the mainstream media come out and say they're full of far right right wing. It's a lie. It's utter bullshit. And when I came here in 2012, I didn't think I would ever see the day when waving an Australian flag, you'd be called a racist.

1:04:38I just don't get it. And that brings me great sadness. I saw a wonderful video on Instagram last night which maybe cry. I think he's Greek or Italian. He has a accent like this. He has a head. I think he's called Aussie dead, proud Aussie dead or something. And he has a beard. And he said, Albanese said, I don't know the difference. You know what Albo said? I don't know the difference between you know an Australian and a migrant. What's it? There's no difference in an Australian and a migrant, right? And everyone, yay, because Australia is a nation of immigrants. So, yeah, talk to the simple people. And this immigrant, like me and immigrant, this immigrant came from somewhere in Europe. I said, and he showed pictures. And he had loads of Aussies waving Aussie flags, but they were brown people, Greek people, Sikhs, Italians, you know, Muslims, Indians, Chinese, all waving like he said, these are Australians. Then cut to a bunch of guys holding Palestinian flags. These are

1:05:43migrants. And he did this immigrant Australians, migrants Australians migrants. And then the last double image was the 15 people that were killed at Bondi. These are Australians. And then a photograph of that prick on the bridge. This is a migrant. And I found it really moving. Albanese needs to be told, if you don't know the difference between an Australian and a migrant, you're the racist mate. And in 2012, I did not come to a country that would celebrate people so openly that despised the Australian cultures, the wrong word, the Australian way of life. And I think what Pauline meant to say was, we're Australian. We do things a certain way. We have a code. It's a societal code,

1:06:45how we talk to each other, how we interact with each other. You can be from any country in the world. You can celebrate whatever religion you like, eat whatever food you like, listen, whatever music you like. I like the way I like to say this. I did an article on my sub stack a few weeks ago. In your own home, you can be as multicultural, whatever you want to be. But as soon as you step out into the street, you're Australian. I can be as British as I want at home. You know, I can have my union. I can celebrate the raw family and, you know, listen to the Beatles and eat fish and chips or whatever the bloody hell I want to do. But when I go outside in the street, you know, I'm having a flat white. I'm going to proud. I'm a proud Aussie. Why can't other people from other countries do that? And why do our politicians say, oh, but you're different because you're white and you're from England and you're from a Judeo Christian. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you can't cherry pick that. If you come to Australia, like I came off the plane at the Gold Coast yesterday, every sign in the airport is in English and Chinese. Why? I was like, why? I didn't get it. And I

1:07:51actually felt a little bit, a little bit icky. Nothing against the Chinese. I'm not a racist. But why am I in a country where the signs are in Chinese? Because I don't expect signs to be in English when I go to China. Why should they be? If I don't understand something, I get at my phone and I translate it or I ask, have you ever been to Japan? The signs are not in English in Japan. You've got to figure it out. And that's that's part of the traveling. That's part of the people. That's why people like Japan. Yeah. Japan is Japan. It's joy. You want to express the culture. I don't want to live in a homogenous, beige, bland. If you put a melting pot of different cultures together and say, you can't, you can all be individual in your own thing, but there's no umbrella, there's no, there's no cohesion. This is where I think Albanese is such a fool because he keeps going on about social cohesion. And every policy he makes and every time he goes on

1:08:52he's splitting up the social cohesion. If you want social cohesion, don't have signs in Chinese at airport. It's really easy. They're splitting it up and a lot of politicians do this because they know that there's a majority that vote for them and the majority that don't. And they're trying to split the majority that do and trying to get more and more and more and more to stay protected and stay in power. Right? His money, vote for us. And that's another thing here, right? Like strong leadership, right? Is you can't try and be everything to everyone. Yes, exactly. Because if you're everything to everyone, you're nothing to nobody. Nothing. Right? Like just like it's there's more than one person accountable. Nobody's accountable. Well, then it's back to young. It's the ego instead of the self. If you're working on your poll numbers, that's the ego. It's not, you're not, you don't care. Yeah. Yeah. And I think we've, we're losing that backbone. You know, like I

1:09:53have friends that have left, you know, business partners that have left. No one left 10 years. Nobody would have even what come in. No one would have had even a thought of leaving. Right? Yeah. And there's still lots of people coming. Don't get me wrong. But the people that are leaving are the people you want here. They're the builders. They're the inventors. Yes, the crates. And I was talking about builders as a family house is about crazy. I mean, we don't produce anything anymore. And, and it's sad, sad to see. And I hope, you know, by the work that you're doing Rupert and, and, and others, you know, having a voice out there can create some change and create some positivity. Because even, even with us, you know, when I'm talking to economists and the marketers and politicians and these different types of people, there's a lot of negativity around it. Yeah. Like it's, it's, it's not, like it feels like things are going to get worse. And,

1:10:54you know, population growth is going to go through the roof, which is great for property. And it's great for business and the rest of it. But there's obviously another side to that at the same time. You know, more traffic and, you know, just more competition and all these types of things. And I just you know, Australia, you know, is, is, I think, still a beautiful country that we all have to, you know, appreciate. But it's going through some identity crisis at the moment. And I think, as long as we have weak leadership in, in a lot of the roles, it will continue. Nothing will change. We need massive, we need massive change. And there's a lot of people out there trying. Well, look at the UK as, as the Canary in the Cornwall. You have to. Yeah. And, and, you know, I'm from Canada originally and I've been here 20 years now or most and same things happen there. And I can see what's, you know, the writing, the writing is definitely on the wall. Can you,

1:11:57I couldn't believe the Pierre Polyoe have lost his seat. Yeah. I thought he was going to win the election and become Prime Minister. I mean, thank God Trudeau went. But, you know, Mark Carnie's in improvement on Trudeau personality wise. Mark Carnie is still a technocrat. Yeah. Banker. Yeah. Who is all about, let's just see what the stats say. Just where are the leaders who have passion as opposed to what does my think tank tell me I should do? Yeah. They're few and far, they're few and far between. And, and, you know, it is a hard role. I'm not going to take, you know, like, not many people out there are going, you know, what my dreams become Prime Minister or a predator. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a job. And then I think that's one of the reasons, right? One of the hardest things. Where does Rupert go from here? Oh, well, where does Rupert go from here? You've got the Albo Diaries. You know, you've got, you know, Pennywong, Tony Burke, you got Chris Bowling.

1:12:58I don't depend. He won't yet, but I have been asked to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you off that panise, you know, you got the melons. Well, now just seeing it, is it Albanese is going to be, it's not going to last forever. Let's face it, he's going to be gone, whether he loses in an election next time around or whether he is forced to resign before then, because of another melon gate episode or something. He might win the next election. If he wins the next election, I think we're in deep trouble because of three term mandate forward is essentially, I'm writing a book at the moment about Albo. I'm, I've been doing a lot of research. It's, it's a, it's a, a biography in the form of his diaries. And I've learned a lot about the man because I've had to do a lot of research going all the way back to when he was 16. And from a psychological point of view, this is a man who, whose mother lied to him about his father, told, he was told his father died on a car crash

1:14:02until he was old enough to realize that he wasn't that he was alive and well and living in Italy. So if you, you're a kid who's been told that lying is okay. Now, imagine what that does to a little boy. So again, it's not the hate thing. I look at Albanese as a human being, a flawed, deeply flawed human being. And I'm by examining his life, I can almost affectionately psychoanalyze him, not from any position of authority because I'm not a psychoanalyst, but I know enough, I've read enough. And I've, I like talk to people enough that, you know, I can connect the dots using critical thinking. I can tell why Albanese lies because it's because of the charge, he's had childhood trauma. Zero or seven. Yeah, it's, it's, and when you look at trauma, everybody, you know, nobody's perfect. He prime minister's in presidents, you know, Donald Trump. I mean,

1:15:05his, I mean, his, the man is imperfect. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's boring. He's, he's, he's, boisterous. He's, he opens his mouth, but he's strong, you know. So Albanese is not going to be around forever. So I, I need to replace him with something because you have to think, you know, the exit strategy. So I'm hoping my book will, and then I'm also planning on doing a stage show based on the book, which I'm writing and that at the moment as well. Now, if I can get the book out and the stage show out before he goes, that'll be a win. Yes. If he goes on bugger, but that's okay. I'll have an ending, because I, as copper would say, I don't know, an ending, where is my ending? You know, Marlon come out of the trailer. I was, I come out of the trailer when I do, well, not the ending. That's a bit too near, I was like, yeah, not going to do this. You know, analyze your where it come on. Trump. Welcome, Trump. So yeah, the stage show I'm hoping will be good.

1:16:07It'll be like an Aaron Harford me doing album, maybe with some songs as well going back to that news review thing I did in the 90s. Take, you know, just held on stage, just talking about his life and shining up to the Labour Party and Bob Hork and joining the Young Staged Less and Dada, Dada Dara and Paul Cating and, you know, Tiny Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull and, you know, the whole thing. So there's that, but that probably takes me up to the end of the year. Look, I'm still doing voiceovers. I haven't been cancelled yet. Thank God. My industry is being taken over by AI and younger people who lean more left than I do. But I do know people who are my age in advertising, the Black T-shirt, baseball cap, guys with the white stubble. We're all, we all think alike about what's going on,

1:17:09but they've got to be quiet about it because they have jobs in advertising agencies and they don't want to piss off their clients. I actually don't care anymore. I love doing voiceovers, but if somebody doesn't want to hire me because they don't like the fact that I'm not a wokey, I mean, I looked at the loggies the other day and I was just, I just, I didn't watch, I just watched the clips on YouTube. I'm thinking, wow, it's so, it's so unbelievably woke my industry. So what's next for me is trying to still be an entertainer without coutowing to a, an ideological bent. And in reality, nobody is going to say, let's give RuPaul his own TV.

1:18:14Show on the ABC 20 years ago, yeah, 20 years ago, I probably be at least in talks with a broadcaster about maybe doing a pilot for something. That wouldn't happen now because the mainstream media has been totally captured by by work by DEI and work. I am, it's not even my politics, it's not even the fact that I take the piss out of the Labour Party. It's that I'm a straight white man. I will never be given my own TV show because of that. So here comes social media, here comes YouTube. I would like to make YouTube bigger. I don't know how we can help you. I've only got seven and a half thousand followers on YouTube, but I've got lower. I've got many ideas. I like longer form. I like sketch comedy. I'd like to be doing, I'd written a load of sketches. And I know the kind of things I want to say now. I want to say things about healthy eating and healthy mindset and positivity and having a laugh. And

1:19:20if I can do that with sketches, even if I'm playing all the parts and I'm like filming myself separately with different wigs and different accents, because I can do all that. But I can't do it on my own. I have an iPad. I don't have this. I don't have all the lights and the cameras. But I've got so many ideas to make skits that are like Armstrong and Miller or Michelin Webb or Monty Python or Black Adder or stuff that in the 80s and 90s I grew up on, which now would never get commissioned by the BBC. You look at those shows, they would never get commissioned now ever. So we've got to do it ourselves. So the future for me, I think, is still learning some money doing voice servers for as long as people will have me. For as long as I can do what AI can't do, which is, see, AI to me is like you put money in a jukebox and you press play. I'm the guy you put money in a jukebox and the jukebox says, I know, have you tried this song?

1:20:23What about this one? Let me play that in a different key, right? You know, so for my job, I've got to be AI resistant, which is down here. It's the dynamism. It's AI voices are sounds this I'm very boring. There's a flatness to them. And I think that when you hear beige and when you hear people, I know I get asked to imitate AI. So a client will, an agency will pitch to a client, they'll do an AI voice for the client for the pitch to win the account or whatever it is or they won the account, but they're just pitching the concept for the creative. Then the client will fall in love with it. Then the agency will go, well, that was an AI voice and the client goes, oh, well, it's great. No, we can't use it because there's a R. Okay. So we'll get Rupert to come in. I come into the studio, I do it from home now because I work remotely over source connect and zoom. And I'm in and they go, here's the guide read. And I listen to a guide read. And I'm like, oh, who was that? Like, I don't recognize the voice. Who was that known as AI? Holy shit. I couldn't

1:21:24tell. They go clients fall in love with it. Can you copy it? So I've got a mimic. So it's a human mimicking a robot mimicking a human. You don't get more metter than that, right? So I'm like, okay, how long is this going to go on for? I don't know. So I now have to start upping, ramping up my content, writing my books. I've got a few ideas for books. I've just, I've never been more liberate. I feel more free than I ever have done. Going back to an earlier question you asked me, I have this sense of freedom now. There's absolute, I've been liberated from the constraints of working in a sort of a corporatized show business world where I can throw pasture at the wall and see if it sticks. Some of my videos get a million views, some get 5,000 views. You have no idea why. Test and measure. Test and measure. But I don't even test and measure. I just keep throwing the shit at the wall. And because I'm not earning any money from it. I mean, the people go, people think I'm earning money from Instagram. I mean, it's zero. I'd like to monetize what I do.

1:22:27Because I think YouTube or the next thing after YouTube is going to replace traditional television. I think mainstream media are there in the death throws under the, I think they're in denial. I think this is why Albanese is done here. It's a journalism assistant. It's found 68 million dollars. Because we want you all to watch the mainstream media. It's like, you know, Pravda, we are having Soviet Union style news in Australia where government will tell you everything you will know and hear those social media unemployable people there, they are giving you misinformation. Since, and this is bonkers. So it's that kind of stuff I want to be doing. But I also am really passionate. I'm really passionate about my carnival stuff, about ancestral living. And at some point I'd like to get more involved with helping people with getting back to

1:23:28eating meat and how to cook meat properly and being by the fire pit. And men talking about their issues and their problems. I went to a place called a barley time chamber. I've been twice men only. No vegans, no women, no drugs, no alcohol. I went two years ago and I went a couple of months ago. Bunch of guys from all over the world. We had Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Catholics, Jews, atheists, all of us there together from all over the world. What we all had in common, we were all entrepreneurs. We all loved love. We all loved life. We all wanted to work on our businesses, our fitness, our mental health, our physical health, our spiritual health. And we would sit around the fire pit every night and talk. And for a bunch of men to sit around talking about why they're there and what their issues were. Because men don't talk Eric, you know. And I think the weakness thing is it compounds. When men are weak, I agree. Not talking, not talking, not talking, it's just, it's, you know, depreciate. It just depreciates. The stronger you get,

1:24:29the more able you are to have those tools to talk and to share and to learn and to listen. We need to listen more. We need to share more. And we need to love more, I think. I'm an old hippie at the end of the dam and old hippie. I could see you there. I could picture you back in the day, smoking that bomb. I started a long head down here with your accents making everybody laugh, probably half naked, around a fire singing kumbaya. Pretty much. But honestly, shrupper, it's been a pleasure having you on, man. Thank you so much. It's all, look, thank you to myself and the rest of the team doing more work with you. Tell people, where do they, where can they see you? Where do they go? Contact with you. Where are you at? I'm on Instagram. Rupert underscored degas, D-E-G-A-S, like the French painter, which people on call centers go, say, what was that? Like the painter? Manai. No, God. So that's my Instagram. If you'd like to follow me on YouTube,

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1:26:35be this guy. That's exactly what I said. I said, what kind of actions can you do while I'm on the bar? Let's have a quick one. We've we've we've did in, you know, who's the most powerful man in the world right now? The most powerful man in the world is probably Kim Jong-un, who's got a great belly. We love his belly. He's a great guy. A great tongue. Love the mate. Unemployable media, Rupert degas, and again, guys, give them a follow, give us a subscribe to us, share, like, comment. The best thing you could do is subscribe because the more subscribers that we have, the more relevance we get, the more credibility, and the better people we can get on the podcast. Appreciate you guys. We'll see you on the next one. Thank you for watching that episode of Unemployable. It was an absolute pleasure having you along for the ride. If you'd like to watch another episode, simply click here, but make sure before you go, subscribe to the channel.