Skip to content
TrackPodcasts
technologyDec 2, 202540:13pending

Why IDEs Won't Die in the Age of AI Coding: Zed Founder Nathan Sobo

Training Data

About this episode

Nathan Sobo has spent nearly two decades pursuing one goal: building an IDE that combines the power of full-featured tools like JetBrains with the responsiveness of lightweight editors like Vim. After hitting the performance ceiling with web-based Atom, he founded Zed and rebuilt from scratch in Rust with GPU-accelerated rendering. Now with 170,000 active developers, Zed is positioned at the intersection of human and AI collaboration. Nathan discusses the Agent Client Protocol that makes Zed "Switzerland" for different AI coding agents, and his vision for fine-grained edit tracking that enables permanent, contextual conversations anchored directly to code—a collaborative layer that asynchronous git-based workflows can't provide. Nathan argues that despite terminal-based AI coding tools visual interfaces for code aren't going anywhere, and that source code is a language designed for humans to read, not just machines to execute. Hosted by Sonya Huang and Pat Grady, Sequoia Capital

Get every episode summarized

Each time Training Data publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.

Email me new episodes

Free for 3 shows. No card needed.

Hosts & guests

No transcript yet

This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.

Why IDEs Won't Die in the Age of AI Coding: Zed Founder Nathan Sobo

Training Data

0:00
40:13

More episodes

More from Training Data

View all episodes →