Why Don't You Use Words?!

0:00This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Broadcasting Live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm Strong and Getty. Enough. He is. I'm Strong and Getty. This terrorist regime began 47 years ago by literally taking U.S. hostages and then here they are 47 years later slaughtering their own people in the streets and then holding the entire world hostage economically by threatening to close the street. And of course President Trump has made it very clear the consequences if they try to do that. So the Iranian, that's Doug Burgham, he's the energy secretary. Secretary of the Interior, I think, yes. Why are you talking about the exterior? I thought he was the energy secretary.

1:00All right. So Iran was going to try to mine the straight of our moves so that none of the oil ships could go through there and then we blew them. But Jesus out of 16 of their mining ships yesterday to try to keep it open. But there's still ain't no companies wanting to send their ship through there. Their crews are worried about dying. They're worried about losing their assets. They're boating all the oil and everything like that. They can't get the insurance that they need to get from the big insurance companies all based out of London, which has caused their economics to go nuts. So there's a lot there. But then this Wall Street Journal story today that Iran is exporting more oil than they were before the war because they control it. They can send ships through there because they know they're not going to bomb their own ships. So they're sending more oil through the street than they were before the war. Why are we allowing that because it would be even more disruptive to the oil market if we bombed their ships? Yes. Probably. Yeah, and we don't want to start a weird tit for tat where we're going to sink you

2:06if you try to sink any ships, but we're going to sink a bunch of ships ourselves. Yeah, the world economy would go nuts, I think. That is ironic as heck though. Yeah, that is. Chris Wright is the Secretary of Energy. Okay. Charming fellow, doing a lovely job too in my opinion. I'll take your word for it. Yeah. Doug Bergen, again, is mostly in charge of Biscons and Indian reservations for what I understand as the Secretary of Interior. I'm not sure why he's speaking on behalf of the administration, but I don't mind it. He's fine, Phil. Sure. So do you know who Francis Fukuyama doesn't really matter? He's a political scientist. Yeah, he made one of the worst predictions in the history of mankind. And apparently he has bounced back from his embarrassment and his writing again. And you know, I almost hesitate to bring that up, but people who recognize the name might be yelling at the radio. What are you quoting him for? But I thought this is a pretty compelling piece. First, he's criticizing Donald J for his unconditional surrender quote last week.

3:09You know, I would respond, hey, Trump says stuff. And then he changes what he's going to do and everything is strategic ambiguity with Trump. I'm not seeing that's a good thing. Well, he would have been good if he'd communicated to the American people more clearly what our purpose was here, but it just is true about Trump. Oh, absolutely. I think there'd be more support for the war if he'd have brought everybody along for the ride, but he clarified either today or late yesterday what he meant by unconditional surrender. And it didn't sound like what you usually think when you think unconditional surrender. So that's a phrase with great historical weight and all and Trump is no historian. Obviously. Do you know what FDR said about Japan, which was very controversial? It was off the top of his head. He fired it off. He hadn't consulted none of his people around him knew he was going to say that and they're like, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. So much as I'd like to continue talking about that because it's important and fascinating back to the Middle East.

4:09It seems to me because he says normally a smart leader in such a situation would try to lower expectations and declare an achievable objective in the war, such as degrading the better part of Iran's ability to target strike targets with ballistic missiles and drones. This would offer an opportunity for Trump to declare victory and disengage. Instead, Trump did the opposite except he won't. He will do what you are suggesting anyway and people say he changed his mind on the unconditional surrender thing or he didn't really mean it or whatever. I don't think that's a big deal. But here's the problem. Interesting. The problem with unconditional surrender throughout history is it really, I mean, it's really, you know, a rat backed into a corner fighting for its life. I mean, there's just no reason to not give it every bit of fight you've got if your opponent is demanding unconditional surrender and it's like announcing no quarter. There will be no prisoners taken. Yeah. Well, in that case, I ain't surrendering anyway. But here's where it gets more interesting. He says the new objective of unconditional surrender suddenly raised the goalposts to

5:12an unachievable height. Again, we're not doing that. Here's the good part. There are any number of reasons for Iran not to capitulate in the first place. Oh, that's, I'm sorry. That part is stupid too. Um. In Iran to pay, well, again, he's hung up on the unconditional surrender thing in historical precedents, he just says stuff of Francis, give it up. It's fine. I'll be gone by the end of the day. So yeah, we don't worry about that. A second reason for thinking that surrender won't happen is that it would be exposed the regime to internal disintegration. Iran today is being ruled by force. A large part of the population hates the regime of the clerics that killed tens of thousands of protesters in January. The IRGC in the besiege, which is, I mean, they got so many damn different militaries and militias and stuff. The besiege are kind of internal gun squads, but there are hundreds of thousands of guys. But he writes the IRGC in the besiege will not give up their weapons because they themselves

6:15would not survive. Oh, they'd be torn limb from limb. A final reason for not expecting unconditional surrender is that a good part of the regime can survive and continue fighting for some time to come. The air campaign has been extremely effective in going after Iran's visible military assets, air defenses, ballistic missiles, drones, launch facilities, ammo storage, military bases and similar. But the tens of thousands of individual fighters are still there and will retain some residual capacity to fight back. And again, this is the part I find compelling. We've recently seen an example of what this looks like. The nearly two and a half year long war between Israel and Hamas has destroyed a huge amount of infrastructure in Gaza and has deprived Hamas of the ability to launch major attacks. But they are still there, commanding some degree of popular support in the remaining tunnels and shelters. They have not surrendered and will be a big obstacle to any attempt to rebuild Gaza and restore post-conflict government. Gaza has a much smaller territory and Israel has been willing to enter it with ground forces.

7:17Iran, by contrast, is a very big country and has lots of places for the surviving regime to hide. It will not be possible to eliminate every missile and drone under the control so we can expect continuing attacks on U.S.-aligned Gulf states and American facilities into the foreseeable future. The threat of a random drone strike hitting the big airline hubs in the Gulf will be economically very damaging and you got this straights of Hormuz and the rest of it. So what quote unquote victory looks like is still a really, really open question. Yeah. So what do you think Trump is open for? What is Trump hoping for? Boy, that's a good question. It would seem pretty unrealistic to hope for any kind of moderate leader to rise up. I don't know how you wouldn't be alive with the current structure of all the different military forces around them. Do we strike a deal with what remains the regime and say, look, these three conditions. I can't do this. That or the other or the dogs come back.

8:17Yeah. I think you can do a great deal. I think you'd be perfectly happy with some sort of military dictatorship taking over that says, okay, we ain't going to try to get a nuclear weapon and we ain't going to mess with the ships in the straight, okay? And he'd be cool. We're out. I think it's kind of interesting that from the, how much support for the war is there, particularly among the Republican party side, the Wall Street Journal editorial board is got a piece out today saying, don't end this before you decimate them to the point that they can't just rebuild in a couple of years. Right. So that's a Wall Street Journal editorial board. And then you've got Brett Stevens, the opinion writer for the New York Times saying, here are the things that we need to do, seize Carg Island. So that's a little island there with the straight that really puts you in control of the straight of hormones in their oil, particularly Iranian oil is where you'd get, you'd have so much power over Iran's oil there. And I think it's got an enormous oil facility on it too.

9:19Unless I'm thinking of a different, it's like the key to Iranian oil is this Carg Island. And Trump has been saying we should take that going back to 1979 when the whole Carter hostage thing was going on. Donald Trump billionaire playboy was saying we need to take Carg Island. So maybe that's going to happen. I heard it bandied about on some podcast and everybody thought that was just crazy in a bridge too far and all that sort of stuff. But Brett Stevens and the New York Times saying we should take Carg Island. That's absolutely going to take Marines. Oh, I would assume so a lot of them, yeah, mine or blockade Iran's remaining ports. That's a pretty provocative thing. Destroy as much Iranian military capabilities possible over the next week or two, including a second midnight hammer operation to destroy what's left of Iran's nuclear capacity and know how and then threaten the gene regime with further bombing if mass, if it massacres its own citizens, mounts terrorist attacks anywhere, anything like that. That's the moderate conservative Brett Stevens in the New York Times sounding more war like

10:22then Lindsey Graham in that piece in the New York Times. So that's almost, I almost forgot to bring up or pickaxe mountain. You boys don't go down to pickaxe mountain. It's got a really old timey Western name. It's a new facility, a nuclear facility in Iran that's buried 100 feet, hundreds of feet underneath the granite that they say is going to be even harder to take out than the Fordo facility and would probably take footwear on the turf, if you will. So that might be coming up too. So back to uncondition because to the greater point, if that facility is entirely intact and the and this all settles down and then six months from now, they now say we got a bomb. So I mean, that would be, oh wow, that would be, yeah, that'd be something. Back to unconditional surrender. This is what I was talking about. Caroline Levit was asked about what unconditional surrender means in the White House press room

11:25yesterday afternoon and she said, what the president means is, because that's the way she talks. I'm not going to talk that way. When she orders a pizza, that's how she talks. It's so obnoxious. It's a living. I mean, she's a hell of an upgrade from KJP or whatever that's so striking to her tone. But anyways, what the president means is that when he is commander in chief of the US armed forces determines that Iran no longer poses a threat to the United States and the goals of Operation Epic Fury has been fully realized, then Iran will essentially be in a place of unconditional surrender, whether they say it themselves or not. So by that, whatever, by that definition, just when we decide it's over, they've unconditionally surrendered. They will surrender under conditions that I have not yet sat. So I guess that's what it means. So there you go. That's fine. That's fine. Nobody hung up on that as a phone. No. No, I'm not worried about it. The oil situation is pretty damned interesting. Are we going to take that car, Ireland and take Iran's oil and try to work out some sort of deal like you get to be a military dictatorship or the revolutionary guard runs the country

12:30or whatever, but we are going to control a lot of the oil. They're going to agree to that. And you got to agree to rename yourselves Venezuela Iran. Suppose if you bomb them enough, they agree with it because otherwise you're dead. And if you're dead, really no, no, you know, the percentages of oil you get don't matter that much when you're dead. All you got is an indeterminate number of virgins and that's kind of it. Yeah. You know, I kind of liked the fact that Kobe Bryant had the second highest score in NBA history, but some guy passed him last night with 83 points. Interesting stats about that if you're a sports fan at all and a whole bunch of other stuff. Stay here. Art Strong and Getty 83 points, the second highest scoring game in NBA history, even coming to the game and hearing from the crowd, and we feel you at home.

13:30It just became a domino from there. My teammates was feeding me. I was making shots. And then once I got to 70, I was like, my as well, see how far you can get at this point and ended up 83 once you got to 70. So this game, bam, and a bio who I'd never even heard of before, and I'm a kind of an NBA fan, but he's not a household name like Will Chamberlain and Kobe Bryant, obviously, who have the, if you're a fan of the NBA at all, everyone knows the Lord that Will Chamberlain scored 100 points in a game, which is just a stunning number. It was not a televised game, so nobody's ever seen any highlight of it. Then Kobe toward the end of a career scored 82 once, and that was the second highest. This guy last night for the Miami Heat Scores 83 points. Miami wins 150, 129. That's a high score name, bam, thank you, bam, bam at a bio. He's a center slash power forward 6, 9, 28 year old. And here's the, a couple of the interesting stats if you're a fan of the NBA at all.

14:33First of all, he shot about 50% for the field and 30% from three point land, which are both good numbers and put out lots and lots of shots. But when a guy is a hit and like that, you start filing him, right? Well, that's the problem. So even though he's a place center and usually centers can't shoot free throws for crap, he made 36 of 43, 43 times, he went to the line and he made 36 of them. Wow. So if a guy's on fire from the free throw line, it doesn't do any good to file him because the clock is stopped and you're scoring points. Is that right? 36 from the line, 47 from the field, shooting 50%. Huh. Wow. Anyway, those are some stunning numbers and the team went just berserco at the end. They were so excited to get him, you know, the second all time high score. I mean, champagne and everybody really enjoying it. So it's not like the, uh, I've always really liked the bit from Adam Sandler.

15:34That was one of his first bits that got him on Johnny Carson. We back in the day about one wheelchair and pulling scored 100 points. And he's in the team huddles. First the team huddle for the other team. Hey, who's got wilt? He's hot. And then the team huddle for wilt, one of the other players, he wilt. I'm hoping. My parents are here. Could you 100 points, but the teammates for this guy were not like, hey, I'm, yeah, I'm open. They were like getting him the balls as much as they could see if they could get him the record. Yeah. Yeah. One of those fun fans. It's probably fun. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That'd be that'd be a hoot. What team does he play for? Miami heat. Are they in a playoff run? I assume they are. Yeah. Um, yeah. Okay. It's exciting and fun. On the same night, the U S lost to Italy in the world baseball classic Italy. Yeah. Unless Demagio is still playing. That's outrageous. Italy has some major leagueers, definitely, but they're like, you're, you haven't heard

16:37of them unless you're a big fan major leagueers where we the United States are fielding an all-star team of some of the biggest names in all of the world. And we were down eight nothing to the Italians last night and ended up losing and might not be, we might be out of the tournament, depending on how Mexico does today. Yeah. Well, that's why they play, you know, a seven game series and they play 162 games because the nature of the game of baseball, a lesser team can beat a better team, especially with a hot pitcher. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So that's too bad, though. National humiliation during this time of war would not be good. Yeah. Not good for ratings either to lose the U.S. because I'm sure they were looking forward to the U.S. Japan matchup. Okay, we'll get into some of the news on the way if you miss this. I can make a podcast. Armstrong and Getty. And finally, a male enhancements supplement called Rhino Chaco VIP 10 X has been recalled because it contains the active ingredient found in the erectile dysfunction drug siallis. Customers became suspicious when they took something called Rhino Chaco VIP 10 X and

17:40it actually worked. Yeah. No kidding. I take one of those. You probably bought it at the convenience store and I'm thinking, this might have aspirin in it. And we got some breaking news. Dozens of countries have agreed to release 400 million barrels of oil from the reserves in a move to ease prices on the global oil market. So big release of reserve oil during the Iranian war, which helps Trump out in the war effort. I think hurts Russia, which is good. So there you go. Yeah. I don't recall a major news story that had so many possible outcomes. I mean, like the thing with Ukraine and Russia, I can come up with like three probably, but this has half a dozen of possible outcomes. Anyway, I can make it to come. I can make a transition from that to what we're about to talk about in that I'm a little tired of hearing the constant chatter of how expensive this war is.

18:41For instance, one of the big talking points of the last 24 hours was the initial days cost five billion dollars. Really? All of a sudden, five billion dollars gets your attention. Nine billion dollars of taxpayer money stolen in Minnesota alone. Yeah. Wasn't of any interest to you in a tiny state. Are you a fiscal hawk now? Are you? In a tiny state. Yes. But five billion of the immense defense budget gets your attention. And that's like a headline for you. Okay. Whatever. Speaking of wasted money, CBS evening news last night with a big story about all the fraud that's going on in another different area. Here we go. Sixty nine-year-old Dr. Lin Ioni was, according to Medicare records, dying in hospice care two years ago, something she discovered when she sought physical therapy for pickleball injury. And I said, what? Ioni's Medicare number had been stolen and used by a company to enroll her in hospice care. The news investigation found an industry ripe for fraud, especially in California.

19:43Companies accused of overbilling. Real patients denied care. And it's costing hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. CBS news analyzed every hospice license in LA County, more than 1,700, and checked for the same warning signs the state used in an audit of the industry, like multiple hospices packed into one building. Or caregivers whose patients, supposedly at debt store, are discharged alive. It's just in LA County, and why can CBS news do that? But no government auditor can, for some reason, compare, you look at a building and you realize what there's like dozens of these rehab clinics here. I find that hard to believe because they don't care. That's exactly right. That's why they don't care. There's more to this story. Three years ago, California state auditor, which is surprising that the state auditor would do anything at California, sounded the alarm that LA County had seen. A 1,500% increase in hospice companies since 2010.

20:45So it does in years, 15 times as many hospice companies, more than six times the national average relative to its elderly population. Well, that's like when they were grilling, what's the bald headed governor of Minnesota? Walls. Tim Walls the other day about, there was a 150% increase in a year in various kinds of autism clinics. Right. And like in one year, come on, Wall Street Journal had a big story about the autism therapy thing and how what a big chunk of Medicaid fraud that is. Like it's a giant, giant industry where all kinds of people are, well, sometimes people that don't even exist are getting, getting money. Yeah. Yeah. So the boom in autism therapy is Medicaid's fastest growing jackpot. These have found lucrative opportunities to capitalize on a growing, need-building, long hours, extracting payments as high as $800 an hour. Here's this cute Midwestern gal.

21:46She looks to be the, her age is probably in here somewhere and there's certainly no more than 40s, young woman. She first launched her autism therapy business in 2019. Let me do some quick math for you. It's like six, seven years ago, max, okay? And she took in, she took aim at an unlikely, unlikely source of profit, Indiana's taxpayer funded Medicaid program, public insurance system for the poor, worth noting before we even dive into this, Indiana has cleaned up their act a lot under their governor. They are a case study in nipping this crap in the bud as opposed to like Minnesota, California. But having said that, here's, here's what it looks like in, now she founded this thing in 2019. In 2023, the state paid Miss Mitchell's company, piece by piece autism centers, $29 million in a year to provide therapy to just 84 patients that's about $340,000 per child, which

22:49surpassed what Indiana Medicaid typically spends in a year treating a newly diagnosed lung cancer patient or covering a year of 24 hour nursing home care. But it all got by because nobody gives a crap about taxpayer dollars. Reinversments were as high as $640 an hour for a routine therapy that can be administered by workers with little more than a high school diploma. Its highest payments were more than 10 times higher than the nation's average, but nobody cares. She just submitted these gigantic breathtaking bills and they kept getting paid. Unbelievable. Mitchell said her company complied with Indiana's rules and the state never objected to her prices. Quote, and this is the woman. I don't think Indiana really had any oversight or not much said Mitchell who bought a series of properties, including a $2.5 million home on Florida, Santa Bel Island and a $600,000 waterfront house on the typical new river in Indiana while her company's Medicaid billings

23:49soared. So are there little autistic kids who are actually getting paired, getting care and they're incredibly stressed out parents trying to figure out how to deal with this situation? They don't make that clear. The hallmark of the Minnesota Somali scandal, it wasn't all Somalis, but a lot, was that the kids either didn't exist or didn't have autism or kickbacks to the parents, that's what I think. This appears to be just an entrepreneur saying, I'm going to follow all the rules, but I'm going to bill them just ridiculous amounts and see if they'll pay it and the answer is yes, they will. I don't know where I draw the line on that one. I mean, at some point, you're ripping people off, but if I send, if I send in paperwork says, I'm now charging $800 an hour and you just send me back a check, I hear you. I hear you. So the Wall Street Journal analyzed providers' payments, probation, as well as the overall number of hours per patient blah, blah, blah, many providers nationwide billed a high

24:52number of hours of therapy for nearly every patient. Experts said that therapy plans should be tailored to individual children's needs and the numbers should vary. But this one autism treatment plant in Seattle, it's a program run through Seattle Children's Hospital, said she never recommends 40 hours per week, but no, of course not. Now that would be nuts. Journal analysis bill, let's see, in Indiana, Minnesota, Colorado, Colorado, slow down Joe and Florida alone, 61 different autism therapy companies out of about 1,100 build an average of 30 more hours or 30 or more hours of weekly therapy per child in 20, 20, 20. If you've ever had a kid that had doing any kind of therapy, that's not the numbers you have. Profoundly autistic or injured kid, you're not doing 30 to 40 hours worth of anything. I mean, it would just be unworkable. Private equity back to action behavior centers, one of the largest US providers, build Colorado's

25:56Medicaid program. For some of the most hours per patient of any provider, its children received an average of 33 hours of therapy a week with more than three quarters getting full time therapy and at least one week, action received $18 million in Medicaid payments from the state that year. So the problem with a lot of this is you can't get people to care enough to get any momentum to hold anybody to account. Nobody ever pays a price for this stuff, very, very few. And the only way, there's only one single way you can stop this sort of stuff from happening. And it's you don't give the government the money in the first place. That's the only thing you can do. Now how you work that out with the fact that there are kids with autism and they do need care and we do have a safety net that takes care of them without letting it get out of hand. I don't know. But if you send them less money, there's less opportunity to steal it. Yeah, true enough. And if you see a 700% increase in a particular sort of expenditure in a year or two, that ought

26:57to be a red flag. And nobody cares about that in a closely related story. A couple of democratic, democratic politicians with a, the hots for the White House. Oh, what's his name? A couple of senators will go into the particulars in a bit, including old Spartacus guy. What's the Cory Booker? Their, their big plan for quote unquote affordability is to further narrow the tax pool grant no federal income tax to people who make up to X $1,000 a year and it's a lot higher than it is right now. So they want to get even fewer people who give a single S about how tax money is spent. Well, we got the, we've got the tax story of the day for the crowd that like that sort of thing coming up right after we tell you about rough greens, which is a live supplement. You add to your dog's food. Your dog's food is going to stay the same, but you're going to start adding rough greens on top of it for the health of your dog.

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29:05owner's taxes in today's post pandemic society is foolish politically and as a matter of public policy. What is he responding to? The news that Howard Schultz is leaving Seattle. He started Starbucks company, he became incredibly rich, Seattle is his home. He's a big entrepreneur. He's a star there. He's leaving the same day that the legislature in Washington passed a 9.9% state tax on income over a million dollars a year. They currently have zero sales or state tax zero state tax, but now they're going to have 9.9% on all income over a million dollars a year and the richest, I don't know if he's the richest guy in Seattle. He's got to be in the running is saying, I'm out and he's moving to Florida. Unless my math is incorrect, if you make a million dollars a year, first of all, congratulations. Secondly, that's a hundred thousand dollar tax increase. All of a sudden, if only if make a million dollars a year, yeah, so yeah, above it, yeah, that's something. That's something. And again, as David Drucker said, you think that marriage people are just going to stick

30:09around. Oh, shocks. I guess I'll have to pay the 5% billionaire tax in California or the 10% new millionaire tax in Washington, however, and that people aren't going to leave. What are you? What is your thinking there? I think it afford to live anywhere on earth, but I'll just write a check for a hundred thousand or more to Washington state. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. These people are more mobile than the rest of us. He just bought, actually, we know what he bought, uh, shouts. He just bought a 44 million dollar pit house at the surf club at the four seasons private residents in Miami. I'm looking at it and it looks pretty damn nice with a pretty cool view. I'll bet it is. Yeah. His wealth can say, and I want, I'll come back and visit anytime I want in a private plane, but I'm out of here. My final note on this, and I'd love to talk about this more later, is the, the, the edgimication you get in life, because I remember studying, you know, politics and political systems ages go in college and, and everybody approaches it as if people are rational, as

31:13if voters are rational, for instance, and have reasonably good information, just I'm going to read you a sentence from a story about how the far left political parties are surging in Europe, especially among, of course, young voters. And they highlight for a moment here the Green Party in Britain. It wants to nationalize utilities, legalize drugs, withdraw from NATO, welcome all asylum seekers, heavily tax private landlords. And of course, they're deeply critical of Israel's military actions in Gaza. There you go. So you're going to tax the crap out of landlords. That'll free up some housing and withdraw from NATO. These people are freaking insane, and yet they're getting growing support. In emoji news coming up, Apple has dropped eight new emojis, and as always happens, it comes with an apology for one of the emojis. What? That's another stuff on the way.

32:15Art of Trump and Getty. So Joe Logan came up pretty hard against the war in Iran yesterday. I don't know how much that matters. He's a pretty influential guy. I don't know how much he represents MAGA, but he said Trump ran on no more stupid wars and now we're in one. So that's his take. And again, I don't know how much of MAGA that represents. No idea. Yeah, he came off as a guy just doesn't know much about the topic and is mystified. Eight new emojis just dropped from Apple, including one controversial icon that prompted apology from Apple. Don't know. I've never used an emoji because I'm a grown up, but they've got eight new emojis. How many emojis there are now? There's like a lot, right? Hundreds. Eight new ones that were approved. This is the part I like. There's a reason I'm bringing up that were approved by the Unicode Consortium. No, okay. I'd like to be involved in that.

33:15I would be a fun meetings. You go into and somebody puts an emoji up there and then you argue about whether or not it should be on the iPhone and then you have a vote. I would do it. A guy with a pirate patch. What about the one-eyed? How are they going to feel about this? You know, and that sort of thing. What about seafaring marauders? They don't like kids at culture, not a costume. Right. That sort of thing. So here are your new emojis that you'll be able to use however you want. Ballet dancer. You think you needed that to know in there? That looks like a guy just to let you know. Yeah. Okay. Dude in the Leotard. Trombone. Joe will be able to drop that one down then. Sorry. Sorry. I couldn't take your call. I was busy and then you got your Trombone emoji. I think it's probably more used as like a sad Trombone. That's what I'm guessing. I have no idea. Emoji for a kitty. You buy that? Yeah. Sure. Treasure chest. Fight cloud.

34:17Kind of like looks like from the old looney tunes when they get in a fight. It's just like. Oh. Dust flying. Okay. Orca the whale. A landslide. Harry creature. That look like. Harry creature looks to be Bigfoot. If I used emojis, I might use that one. I don't know for what. And then a distorted face, which is somehow controversial. And I couldn't finish the paragraph that explained why because it was boring me too much. I gave up with the pregnant man when they released to that one. Oh. Do they still have that on there? Oh, yes, they do. Do. Yeah. Because I've gone to send the pregnant men. Men can't get pregnant. Well, according to Apple, Joe, they can. Okay. Well, they can't is the thing. So that one got by the, so if you accidentally, I interrupted you. If you accidentally sent the pregnant man emoji, Katie, you know I have. I really would like to be on the Unicode Consortium. Well, let me on there. I'd love to sit around and argue about various emojis all day long.

35:18Sounds like a good idea. And then all the different faces and I've had to regularly do this where, where somebody sends me an emoji and I'm like, I don't know what they're trying to tell me. So I take the emoji and I paste it on Google and say, what the hell does this mean? And then it explains it to me. There's the pregnant man or maybe you just drinks a lot of beer because of food, baby. Because like the basic faces where you got the two eyes with the straight mouth or the slightly down curve mouth, but the down curve mouth with the big eyes or the down curve mouth with the, with the closed eyes or the down turned mouth, but the eyebrows raised. I mean, those are all very subtle variations. Right. And then on to what you're trying to tell me. See, I do though. And Katie does. I wonder if you have, like, some sort of deficit for that sort of thing, maybe. Skeptical. The others mildly disappointed. The others, you know, I don't remember the list you just read. Well, they're so small. I can barely see them anyway. Oh, my phone out here. And you're blind. I didn't know what that is. Wow. Why don't you use words like we started doing about, I don't know, a million years ago.

36:20It's explained to me what you were thinking about me and words. Are your eyes closed or open? I don't know what's going on here. We got more on the way if you miss it against the podcast. I'm strong and get it.