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Why Crypto Options Are Still In The Early Days w/ Nick Forster
About this episode
Nick Forster, CEO of Derive joins us to talk about his journey from trading equity options at SIG to building the leading decentralized options platform. Nick talks the shift from AMMs to app chains and why institutional liquidity is moving on-chain. Nick explains Derive's strategy of 'exporting' complex derivatives to 7+ chains and why on-chain transparency is the only fix for centralized OTC risks.
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Notes:
* Captured 90% of on-chain options market share.
* Traditional AMMs yielded 5-10% annually initially.
* RFQ for institutional liquidity.
Timestamps:
00:00 Start
00:19 Nick's background
01:20 History of Options
04:15 The journey toward an L2 App-chain
07:11 The "aggregation of liquidity" thesis
09:40 OTC desks & competitors
13:47 Roadblocks to institutional involvement
16:11 Hyperliquid integration
17:09 HLP
22:09 Perps
27:17 Tap trading vs dice rolls
30:52 Value capture
34:38 EFT options
36:05 Why have perps on Derive?
38:36 Current decentralized trading tech vs tradfi
43:14 Regulations
46:16 RWAs
48:30 Bridging to other chains
50:41 Derive token
52:24 Token holders
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