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If the risk is the same, why would any rational agent choose a stablecoin that pays nothing over a money market fund that does?
In this clip, Chris Perkins puts the question directly to Circle’s Gordon Liao, who walks through USYC — Circle's yield-bearing instrument — and the seamless toggle between it and USDC.
Austin Campbell frames the winners as "transformers": platforms that can move fluidly between yield and liquidity states. The answer matters for every wallet, exchange, and agentic commerce stack being built right now.
Hosts: Austin Campbell @austincampbell | Ram Ahluwalia @ramahluwalia | Chris Perkins @perkinscr97
Guest: Gordon Liao, Chief Economist and Head of Research at Circle
This clip is from a longer conversation on USDC, the CLARITY Act, and rising bond yields. Full episode here: https://youtube.com/live/bYgoVvXME3Q?feature=share
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