Who was Nicholas Rockefeller: ANSWERED!!! – Questions For Corbett

0:00My friendship with Nick Rockefeller was one way we expressed ideas to each other and thoughts and philosophies and he wanted me to become part of what they were doing and for me to become a member of the CFR and offered various business opportunities for me to get involved in and for me to not take up the battle that I've been taking up in the past to drop that idea because what was the point of my fighting for the people? I was a guy who was very successful in the movie business and I saw the truth of what was happening I tried to express it to the people and rather than having me express it to the people they wanted me to join this side because I was a mover and a shaker and rather than me opposing them to join them it was real simple and he tried to recruit me into that situation and I didn't go for it Did he get angry when he didn't go for it? No, no I remember one time he said to me, you join us so you have an ID card there

1:02and you have a chip and your chip will say KMA on it and I said, what does KMA mean? He said, it means kiss my ass and anybody stops you a cop or whatever and you show them your card or your chip and they'll not leave you alone because she's one of us Welcome back friends, welcome back to another edition of Questions for Corbett I'm your host as always James Corbett of Corbettreport.com coming to you in March of 2026 with I believe a first in QFC history namely today I'm going to take a question that I answered to the best of my ability with the information at the time nearly a decade ago and revisit that question in the light of newly released information that yes is broadly along the lines of what I answered all those years ago but is even more crazy than I imagined so you're in for a doozy, strap in and all of this relates to what we just witnessed you remember that that was reflections and warnings and interview with Aaron Russo

2:02which was released by Alex Jones and the Info Wars crew back in 2009 and was made a lot of waves in the independent media space at that time if you happened to be around or even in the intervening years probably heard or seen this interview at some point or referenced at some point where Aaron Russo talked about amongst other things of course he was the documentary filmmaker behind the Freedom to Fascism a documentary which was very important and influential in the early 2000s in the Freedom movement but he was also as he revealed in that interview with Alex Jones he was also a friend of a Nicholas Rockefeller who befriended this Hollywood producer and started talking to him behind the scenes about various things and that again has become common knowledge you will remember it by now he talked about there's an event that's going to happen in the near future this was right before 9-11 he was talking about invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq

3:02and he was talking about what was going to happen the development of the police state and people are going to get microchipped but you know us elites are going to have the KMA microchip what does that stand for kiss my ass all that he talked about feminism and how the whole feminist movement was set up by the Rockefellers to basically bring the other half of the workforce into the workforce so that they could be taxable and children could be educated in indoctrination camps etc. etc. you have heard some version of this surely by now and if you haven't well obviously you can follow the links in the show notes to watch that full interview with Aaron Russo when he talks about his experiences but you can also watch this clip from questions for Corbett number 38 on who is Nicholas Rockefeller where nine years ago I had a question about this very topic the next question is an email question it's in from Vega who writes what is your take on Aaron Russo's interview

4:03where he exposed the 9-11 fraud Rockefeller-funded feminism and microchipping who was this Nick Rockefeller can't seem to find much about him excellent question Vega thank you for the question so hmm who was Nick Rockefeller that's an interesting question so for people who don't know this is about I think it was warnings and reflections something like that that was the name of this hour long interview with Aaron Russo that that was fairly well known I would say in conspiracy circles a decade ago it was one of Aaron Russo's final interviews and he talked about a number of things including meeting Nicholas Rockefeller of the Rockefeller family who told him back in 2000 told him that there was going to be an event and on that event they were going to go into Afghanistan and Iraq and maybe Venezuela after that and this and that was going to happen and ultimately we're all going to be microchipped and blah blah blah there's a lot of details in that including do you know Aaron why do you think we we helped bring a feminism about

5:05it's not the why you think and all that kind of stuff so that's an I mean that was a fairly well known story at any rate a decade ago in conspiracy circles I don't know how much it's common knowledge these days and you can still see that injury online it's widely available but the question is who is Nicholas Rockefeller Aaron Russo in that interview I think they showed the picture of Aaron with Nicholas Rockefeller so it's this guy and everyone at the time including myself just took it oh you know Nicholas Rockefeller must be a Rockefeller must be part of the Rockefeller family but is he so this is the the Rockefellers an American dynasty Peter Collier in David Horowitz which is one of the standard Rockefeller biographies from the 70s and it has the best the most thorough Rockefeller family tree that I know of in graphic form anyway that goes up to the fourth generation which at that time was the kind of operative generation or the up and coming generation I should say back in the 70s which presumably Nicholas Rockefeller

6:06would have at least been in that generation one would imagine he wouldn't have been born after you know in the 1970s so so here is that and he's certainly nowhere on here he's not on the John D Rockefeller family tree now it's possible he could be elsewhere on the the Rockefeller family tree i.e William Rockefeller who was John D's younger brother and a co-founder of Standard Oil but as far as I can tell and as much as I can research into that Williams Rockefeller's family lineage does not show any Nicholas in the grandson generation so no sign of him there perhaps he was part of him even one of the other branches of the Rockefeller family tree maybe Lucy or Mary and Franklin or Francis who you know I mean no one even knows about so if Nicholas Rockefeller is on the Rockefeller family tree

7:08and I can't find him anywhere on there in any permutation but if he is somewhere there he may be on one of the kind of outer branches of the family tree not part of the quote unquote the Rockefeller family either John D Rockefeller lineage he is not part of that family so that's interesting so who is he? well he is a real person he is a person we can determine that he has a highly sketchy website which you can go and check out Nicholas Rockefeller.org and there is a Bloomberg page on him noting that he is an attorney he's named as a member of the advisory board for the RAND Center for Asia Pacific Policy he is a CFR member that you can confirm on the CFR membership page there's a New York Times article from 1999 about a luxury hotel deal in Indonesia that his Rock Vesta development group was part of that does mention he is connected with the Rockefeller family but does not give any details of that

8:08and then this Rock Vesta development doesn't seem to be in any way related to the Rockefeller i.e. Rockefeller Foundation Rockefeller brothers fund any of that kind of stuff so it just gets sketchier and sketchier my best guess at this and I don't have the 100% details on this but my best guess on this is that either Nicholas Rockefeller is some very fringe kind of member of one branch of the Rockefeller family tree that's far from the center and uses that name like oh I'm a Rockefeller but isn't really you know he's not David he's not you know one of the brothers or what have you so it might be that situation or he might be a comment I mean it might be someone with the name Rockefeller who's just using that name like just hey I'm Rockefeller you know I'm Rockefeller it could be a complete comment for all I know I don't know but he is clearly something he's on CFR and what have you so he's something

9:09but what relation to the Rockefeller family tree I don't know and to some extent I mean to some extent there's some kind of con going on here I mean he's not he's not in the thick of things because there's almost and there's very very little information about him online very little that you can find that's of any substance as I say hopefully you remember that information and you remember that answer that I was able to give back in 2017 and my ultimate conclusion that yes this was a con of some sort being played on someone well boy was I right and in the most surprising way possible and the information has now come to light and we're going to take this firstly from how I discovered this information was from a recent substack post by good friend of the show and previous guest here on corporate report Jacob Norton guard and on his pharaoh's chronicle substack he recently had this post Nicholas Rockefeller the greatest imposter in American history question mark

10:10and Jacob who I hope my listeners know was the author of this tone Rockefeller controlling the game which is an important book that goes into great degree of detail about the Rockefellers and their many connections to power and how it really operates in our society so this was a name that had been on Jacob Norton guard's research radar independently from my own for many years he had looked into it and decided yeah there isn't enough to really go on so Nicholas Rockefeller only makes one brief written appearance in this book and that is on a list of Rockefellers associated with the council and foreign relations because as we went through yes Nicholas Rockefeller really was on the CFR so whoever that was really was a CFR member but that's as far as it went for really either of our research and what we could really nail down about this guy but as the Jacob Norton guard point points out in this new article this astonishing revelation has come into a new light as in the astonishing revelations

11:11that Russo told us about Nicholas Rockefeller's author record conversations after Nicholas Rockefeller's death on Halloween 2024 it was revealed that he was not a Rockefeller at all but an incredibly sophisticated fraudster who managed to fool everyone in 40 years his real name was Spiro Pavlovich III an incredible story so of course I will first and foremost direct people to Jacob's sub-stack but from there you will see the link to what is a multi-part series by this author this journalist Jonathan Alter about the 40-year con Nicholas Rockefeller Yelly Davosman member of multiple boards died a pillar of the west coast establishment then the truth came out and well we'll get into this and the story behind it but first you have to know a little bit about Jonathan Alter and his appearance in this story which actually goes back to 1976 when Alter was I think

12:11an 18 or 19-year-old applying to become part of the Harvard Crimson journalist team and in order to do that he had to earn his journalistic chops by reporting on some important story so he decided to report on something that was happening there at Harvard there in 1976 the dramatic exposé an expulsion of a serial fraudster from Harvard it was a piece that he wrote for the Crimson in March 1976 under the headline arose by any other name and he writes about this Spiro Pavlovich III who was charged with twice bluffing his way into Harvard Law School and also his wife Monnet who was attending the business school after allegedly making transcripts in order to get in she was also arrested by the FBI for falsifying applications for government-insured loans so that was a federal crime that they were charged with there and this goes into the story of Spiro Pavlovich III and his background

13:12and his colorful youth and stories that followed him around even back when he was in high school pulling what is described as pranks but really was fraud for example while he was attending Loyola and New Orleans he sponsored an expensive formal and tried to pass off an unknown nightclub singer as Aretha Franklin promoted it as an Aretha Franklin concert apparently he didn't just try that once he tried it on multiple occasions and was run out of town and a couple of occasions but in the fall of 1968 he showed up at Harvard Law School where he spent the next two and a half years as a diligent student but when it came time for a summer internship he started telling tall tales and spinning yarns and saying that he was the great grand nephew of Tsar Nicholas of Russia he was an interim for someone who he told that he was an avid scuba diver but that destroyed his credibility because one of the partners at the firm that he was interning was a scuba

14:12enthusiast and fooled Spiro into expanding on the subject about which Pavlovich knew nothing the firm contacted to Lane University and then Harvard Law asked King and Spaldon the people who were thinking firing if it wished to press charges but the firm declined but so he had been caught out and then expelled from Harvard Law but he came back he first enrolled at the University of New Orleans as a transfer student from Tulane with a new identity Jason Scott and completed a very successful stint there and then went back to Cambridge again for round two this time with Uncle Sam guaranteeing repayment of Harvard's loans with different identity he literally just dressed up grew a go-t wore a hat and glasses and passed himself off as a new new person and he got in and managed to do that for a couple of years before getting expelled again and that was the subject of this 1976 article by Jonathan Alter but then back in 2024

15:12as this article documents this latest article from back last September yes apparently this Nicholas Rockefeller was the self-same Spiro Pavlovich III that Alter was writing about four or five decades ago so this story is incredible detailed as I say as a three-part series I would suggest anyone who's even vaguely interested in this should read the whole thing it's a fascinating tale if nothing else we'll just go through a little bit of it he talks about Nick's story surname sterling credentials and high-level associations after graduating from Yale Law School in 1987 and clerking on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals for Judge Dorothy Nelson who considered him one of her best clerks ever he became a partner in the Los Angeles office of Perkins Coy Nick, as he was going by that time, practiced what he called investment law and founded the Rockefeller Asia Advisory Group Rockfest Development Rockefeller Pacific Ventures Rockefeller Resources International and the Rockefeller

16:12International Fund Nick mingled with George and Barbara Bush she hosted events featuring John Kerry and Gary Hart and Steve Forbes and General Wesley Clark he was well-versed on emerging Chinese capitalism and sat on panels at Davos there with Klaus Schwab himself he was a member of the board of the Rand Corporations Asia-Pacific Policy Advisory Board as well as the Pacific Council on International Policy and the World Affairs Council he traveled often to China and his Rockefeller branded investment vehicle spawned several sino-American projects as well as suspicions that he was a Chinese intelligence asset in 2002 the mayor of Wuhan dedicated a plaque honoring Nicholas Rockefeller as an international adviser to the municipal government but then upon his death at the age of 78 on Halloween 2024 one of his Yale law school classmates Helen Kim was by his side at that time and then things began

17:12to unravel as Kim started to put the funeral arrangements together and start to look into Nicholas Rockefeller. She phoned the Rockefeller global family office in New York, a call that dozens of people should have made over the previous 40 years and was told that Nick was, quote, not recognized as a member of the Rockefeller family. Huh, interesting. So she went to investigate at the century city office the Chinese natural gas company that paid for Rockefeller's 4000 square foot office. She went to her head office the Rockefeller resources international office. And got in and started going through his possessions. What she found in his death drawers was jaw-dropping. A strange and haphazard collection of false IDs, passports and birth certificates. An application to Yale law school in the name of a legendary British aviator. And Nick's near-perfect LSAT, LSAT scores from 1983. Etc. Etc. Etc.

18:12As I say, this is a very, very detailed study that goes through all the decades of duplicity that this Spiro Pavlovich III, aka Nicholas Rockefeller, was engaged in. And the Nicholas Rockefeller character he inhabited for 40 years. And as you see, he was there photographed with Georgian Barbara Bush and hobnobbing with the elite the upper crust. How on earth did this happen? Well, that's really a question. And you will find some of the answers of how some of these people were duped in what ways he was creating his fake credentials and how one fake ID opened the door for another fake credential and et cetera, et cetera. And it's again, a fascinating story and lots and lots of detail about specific names, places and events. But it doesn't quite go all the way there. And that is something that Jacob and both and both the Jacob and myself think that the

19:12alter article is, as I say, fascinating detailed but doesn't quite go all the way. So let's go all the way. And in that regard, I had the chance to talk to Jacob Norton about this alter expose, this deep dive and what it does and does not say, et cetera. So let's get into this. And I started by asking Jacob, again, author of Rockefeller controlling the game, someone who knows something about the Rockefeller family, how he came to the conclusion about Nicholas Rockefeller, a gay Spiro Pavlovich III, when it had completely evaded my research radar. Yes, I as usual, it's not what I was looking for and information about Nicholas Rockefeller. It was I was searching for something else when this came up. Probably, something related to the Rockefeller. I guess now,

20:12it just slipped my mind. I don't remember because as I saw it, it was just, what? This is the answer to everything. So I started reading this and it was behind a painful but it was so interesting to just had to read it and upon reading this material, it was just mind-blowing what Jonathan Alter had found out about him. Because Nicholas Rockefeller hadn't been on my radar for a while as well. I didn't think about him for a while but so when I saw this, it was just, wow. With

21:16a level of defrauding, it was just astonishing. And being able to act like an Rockefeller for 40 years without the detection and also being able to assume he was known as a spiral path which the third has just said. And assuming this identity after he had two times came into he was accepted into the Harvard Law School with fake identities. And it was just what and the third time he could fake a Rockefeller identity. And he actually was at the when he was at Harvard, he was kind of the bragging type.

22:17He liked to exaggerate things that he had done in his life, his life achievement. So he dropped these things like he was a great grandson to the Tsar Nicholas of Russia and so on. But he was kind of a scuba diver that and that he was kind of American football play that he had kicked the longest kick ever and so on. It was a lot of outrageous claims. So people started to question him. Not at Harvard Law School at first, but when he applied for some position during the summers at some law firms and they started to question this and said, what is this?

23:18And Harvard Law School they started a investigation and find out that the second time he was in, we could see that it was the same handwriting as the spiral Pavlovich, but now he had a new identity and he actually went to court for this. So FBI arrested him and they had this trial but Pavlovich became very ill and had depression and a lot of issues that made it impossible for him to stand trial and he had doctors talking for him and said he had schizophrenia or so he actually couldn't he was never

24:18in trial for this. So he didn't have to go to jail or anything for this. Instead he went to Luciana for nine years before he assumed his new identity as Nicholas Rockefeller. So what do we take from this report? As you say, it's incredibly detailed and interesting, but it seems that there are things missing from this story. This information and does it at all in any way alter your view of the Rockefellers that we get from your book? Well, as I write in my sub-starch article it's why don't the Rockefellers have commented on this? Because he was in the concern for relation and he was had been in contact

25:19with his wife in crime with the trilateral commission and J. Rockefeller and a couple of other Rockefeller institutions. So why haven't they commented on this? And why haven't Jonathan Alter think he should have been contacting the Rockefeller family office for their comment on this? Why haven't they done anything? You have had an imposter for 40 years. He was in the council for relations. So and now I forgot your question. Well, but I think you demonstrate the point of the power of that name but also the mystery around the ability of somebody to just go around and start using the name with absolutely seemingly no total impunity for decades, literally 40 years around using that name. Starting

26:19Rockefvest and Rockefeller philanthropy fund. It's a misuse of a family name. I mean, that's something that he should be in court for doing this. So it's just a mystery by but as I write in my sub-starch article, that's the most important point I was going to give is that they're very, very great grand ancestor his William devil bill Rockefeller a fraudster a bigamist and he's when you read about Nicholas Rockefeller, well, that was what devil bill did. So I choose my voice every chance I get the devil bill. Yeah, exactly. So it's famous. So of course,

27:19it's like, why would they do it? Why would they talk about an imposter Rockefeller and their fascinating stuff? So much things would come up in the light with exposing it. But what's okay, so I guess the real question here is what do we do with that information now? Yeah. The thing is that kind of information don't have to be wrong. Because one thing is that how did Nicholas Rockefeller know about what would happen after this event? How could he come up with that knowledge did he just invent it or just trying to say things to aronrasse

28:19to feel important and saying shocking things? Well, maybe not. If you are in the intelligence, if you are because he met with a lot of powerful people with a Rockefeller name. A lot of things were going on. And also, if he was in the intelligence, if you're in the intelligence, you get pre-knowledge of things that would happen. So don't have to be anything wrong with that information. But they can also do this thing with exposing now. Nicholas Rockefeller as a fraud. But everything he has said was a fraud. So leaking that kind of information and now we can close that. It was just the

29:19crazy conspiracy thing. Yeah, it's a great way to discredit all of that information isn't it? Yeah, of course. Once again, that is Jacob Nordengard of the Ferros Chronicles sub-stack. He also has his own website ferrosmedia.se, which will be linked up in the show notes so that you can go and acquire Rockefeller controlling the game. An important book and handy resource for people who do want to know more about the Rockefeller family. And you can also now pre-order Jacob's forthcoming book that will be published in English at the end of this month, March 31st. Our common agenda and the pact for the future. And Nordengard calls it a sequel to his Rockefeller book where it talks about what they are trying to do in the long term. The big common agenda slash UN slash WHO game plan and where it's going with the creation of the digital world

30:19brain. So plenty to dig into with regard to that topic. But with regard to the Nick Rockefeller topic, and lots of food on the table for a feast, a repast of scrutiny about this Nicholas Rockefeller story. There are still a number of interesting questions that hang out there and that I talked about with Jacob both on and off error, including, of course, some of the suggestions that occur throughout even Jonathan Alter's investigation that he kind of notes in passing that Nicholas Rockefeller was working for somebody. And this is a theme that followed him basically throughout his life, even back when he was a student and he was just a known man on campus at high school and going into college. There were people who, for example, who considered that he was a, quote, spy for the working class who never reported back to the home office as how one person

31:19put it, or in high school his besotted future wife called him James Bond. He was known as an actor and someone who could put on an aura of mystique and interest. So there's that sort of thing. Both of them had been arrested by the FBI so they had some sort of contact with domestic intelligence and the report goes on in part two and part three to talk about other interesting aspects of this. For example, at Mary's and other Yale Haunts, Nick was more expansive on the stash of British General John Hackett, the real, if long-retired, commander of NATO's Northern Army Group. Sometimes he claimed that he worked for several years on a secret NATO project that required him to spend six weeks in a safe house in communist Russia and one story that is related along those lines. One night over drinks a classmate asked him about his spy craft. What if you suspected the person offering you documents was a double agent? Nick swished his thick scotch glass

32:19athletic motion, rammed it a fraction of an inch from his friend's face, showing that he could easily drive his nose into his brain. I had no doubt that he had been some kind of agent, the friend says. And there are stories like that that appear again in passing throughout this story over and over and over on into part three talking about the people suspecting that he was some form of Chinese intelligence asset of his vast connections in that country and with various Chinese officials, including a young Xi Jinping before he became dictator for life back in 2002 when he was still just a rising star in the Chinese Communist Party. Well, Nicholas Rockefeller was in touch and trying to work deals with him. Now, most of Nicholas Rockefeller's deals and swindles came to nothing. He did not die a multi-millionaire. I think it was $35,000 in his account or something like that.

33:19And constantly borrowing money off of friends, constantly spinning the tail that he was in a battle over the Rockefeller Trust Fund with some of his family members. And I can pay you back as soon as this is settled. Don't worry. And he never did. So there's a lot to this story and it's not that Nicholas Rockefeller was wildly successful ultimately in what he did. But, or was he? He was, as Jacob asks, as any reasonable person would ask, why did the Rockefeller family never really go out on record, never make a deal about it? As this man was presenting himself as a Rockefeller and starting all these Rockefeller branded investment corporations and trusts and what have you and sitting on boards and going to Davos and all of these places where the Rockefellers obviously had reach and influence and even people sitting on the board why on earth did they never call him out? Who was he really working for? Speculate away, guys. There's clearly more to this story

34:19than we know, but I would also say that I, in opposition to those who think that it is all one grand conspiracy that's completely controlled by a few people at the top who literally control absolutely everything that happens on planet Earth. I think there is no doubt that Nicholas Rockefeller was a con of some sort, a con man and maybe a spy, maybe something else but anyways, genuinely a con man who genuinely assumed a Rockefeller identity and perhaps was permitted to do so or encourage to do so but at any rate, assumed that identity and successfully got away with it for decades largely, and I'd say for most people on the back of the fact that he never pushed it too far he never played up his connection to the Rockefeller family too much in explicit ways. Like, oh, I was talking to David yesterday and he said, he never played that angle. He just more alluded to his connections to the family and most people, most of the time

35:20were willing to go along with it because here's this flashy, fast-talking guy who seems to spend money and looks the part, so let's go along with it and a lot of people were seduced by the potential power and influence of being close to a Rockefeller and were willing to go along with it. I certainly do believe that a lot of people were just genuinely conned by that. Who would think that the person being so open and brazen about his Rockefeller money and connections would be a complete imposter and who would think to check? Well, apparently not many people. In fact, even someone that he was working with in this company called US Search which was specializing in ancestry, searching your ancestry and finding out family connections. His partner in that apparently never bothered to put Nicholas Rockefeller into his own search engine, so take that for when it's worth. Anyway, I would say there is obviously some level of con that happened here and I would assume that is exactly what happened with Aaron Russo, that Aaron Russo

36:20was just genuinely conned by this person he genuinely believed was a part of the Rockefeller family. But yes, then the question becomes so what do we do with the information that he imparted to Aaron Russo? Does it make it false? Well, obviously from just in terms of logical fallacies, it doesn't mean that it is necessarily untrue the things that Nicholas Rockefeller said. It just means that he probably did not know it in the way that he intimated that he did, that he had this as insider knowledge of the Rockefeller family. But he obviously knew a thing or two about a thing or two, including as alter notes in his article, he knew something about Chinese, the Chinese economic situation and was convincing enough trust lawyer, et cetera. So he was able to successfully operate in these fears without being a complete and total idiot. So there must be something behind that. But another thing that is important here

37:20is that alter, of course, completely sidesteps and as Jacob talks about in our interview, he sort of gets to dismiss all of the things that he talked about with Aaron Russo. In literally two sentences of this, multi-part, thoroughly detailed and documented report, the entire Aaron Russo incident takes up two sentences. And he had a weakness for conspiracy theories, including for ones that involved the Rockefellers, that he peddled to a Hollywood producer turned conspiracy theorist named Aaron Russo, among others. When Russo repeated Nick's theories on Alex Jones' radio show, they went viral, though none of Rocky's high-hat friends seemed to notice. Again, interesting. The ignorance and one would imagine, in some cases, willful blind ignorance to what was right in front of their face is fascinating, but actually somewhat plausible. I do think that a lot of these people who are sitting on these boards and these powerful people who are really just go first, who are filling seats in various positions of middle management power

38:21and not really the people pulling the strings and were genuinely oblivious to what was really going on. I will note with some interest that if I just tested this myself, maybe you'll get a different result, but when I went to YouTube.com and typed in Nicholas Rockefeller before posting this video, the very first result was, who is Nicholas Rockefeller? Questions for Corbett. So anyone, anyone in his orbit in the past decade or so, who had just, I wonder who is Nicholas Rockefeller, had typed in his name into the YouTube search? What have seen my questions for Corbett, where I said that he's probably a conman. So anyway, interesting, interesting stuff. But we're going to leave this for here for today. There's a lot to dissect here. Again, I think anyone who's even remotely interested in the subject should read Alters three-part report and then think critically about what it does and doesn't say about Rockefeller and his real, who he really, really was and who he really, really might have been working for. Anyway, that being what it is,

39:22I think this is an instructive case in a number of ways, not only in the real life, catch me if you can type of thing, which we now know is mostly garbage and mostly fake anyway. Well, here's the guy who successfully inhabited a role for four decades. But also, it is an interesting way of trying to dismiss what could be very true and very valuable and very important information that came through this compromised source, which may in fact be part of the whole siop that was the Nicholas Rockefeller character, who one way or another was retired on October 31st of 2024. Anyway, I just thought this was all very interesting and obviously this relates to what I was talking about nine years ago here on Questions for Corbett. So I thought I'd like to tie the little bow on it here for today, but I'm interested to see your thoughts on the whole Nick Rockefeller situation. So corporate report members, of course, as always, invited to log in and leave your thoughts and comments in the comment section at corbettreport.com. I'm looking forward to that,

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