When Dumb Criminals Lie To Experienced Detectives

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2:03Okay. Tell me everything from the starting. Okay. When you got up, let's go through the story. All right. I got up and I realized that well, I realized I'm not before I didn't have any more more to ask. Right. Okay. And I remember my friend had told me that there was a guy over there. I'm not even on the wrong road. I don't even know. It was your friend. Brady. Right. She told me that, you know, there was she knew a guy. He was there. He lit a hollymeal something. She kind of gave me the directions. And so I said, all right. Well, I'm looking up and I'm going to go over there and see if I if the lights are on or something. I'm not on the door and letting him know. I know her. Okay. So I got over there. And I'm noticing I might have been on the wrong road. I don't know, but I chickened out. There was no lights on none of the houses on that road. So my car went cranking. So I walked up to Gale's because I'm going to go live there. I was kind of scared. She had sent me right by and she'd be like, what are you doing over here? You know what I mean? So I knocked on the door. She came to the door. I said, Gale, can I have something to drink? My car broke down and I got a pee. I had a pee really bad.

3:04She said, yeah, I said, we walked and she walked me into the bathroom. That was my toilet paper. And I had to haul our Gale. I was going to toilet paper. So she just cracked the door and, you know, kind of threw it in there to do me. Well, I came out and I said, we'll get me something to drink. She kind of stayed in her bedroom the whole time. And I got me something to drink. And I heard the door shook because I was at the sink. And so I hollered through the door. I said, Gale, I'm going to go try my car. If I don't come back, if I don't come back, you'll know I got it. But if not, I'm going to have to come back. You might have tapped me home so I can get ready to come to work. Why don't you go over to Gale's? I told you, I just told you that. Why did you go over there? Why? Because I was kind of scared she was telling me to ride by or something because I knew she was up because she was telling me that she gets up early every morning. So if you were scared that she saw you ride by, why don't you go over there? Because I was scared she's telling me. And she'd be like, what are you doing over here? I'm not going to sit on the one over here trying to find some drugs. All right, so anyway. Do you know what I mean? So you go back to your car?

4:05Continue. Okay, I get back to my car and I try it and it crits up. And so I go and I go home. I get my son up. I get him ready for school. I get ready. I take him to school and I go straight to work. Your son? My 15-year-old. Okay, 15-year-old. I thought you said you had two. I did. But the 17-year-old don't go to school. What's their names? Scott and Dominic. Scott and Dominic, okay. So you get your ass, take them to school, and then what? I went straight to work. What time do you get to work? About 8-30. What kind of car were you driving? My car. Your car? And you have what? Honda Civic. Okay. What color? Silver. Was there anybody with you? Win. When you went over to work out? No, nobody was with me. Nobody was in the car. Did you ever use gas? No, I did not use gas. The battery cable gets loose sometimes because it does it on me often. Okay. So usually when it don't crank, the first thing you would do is shut that battery cable right? That or just sit there for a little bit and I'll find a car and go, I want it does it, but I guess it just needed tight.

5:07But that morning you decided not to sit there and wait until you'd go around with it you just walked over to get it. Yeah, I was nervous. I was scared because I never knew, I never knew this guy. I don't, I'm not going to go by drugs. I really didn't know what to do with myself. You know what I mean? So I said, well, I'm just going to walk over to get it. I was scared. She'd saw me. We made something to rain. I was about to die first and I had to pay you really bad. So I said, I'll just walk up here. And I knew she'd been sick. You know, as she was sick Wednesday, I didn't get to see her thirsty at work. What was she work? Was she her pajamas? No, I think she had on work clothes. Like what? I can't, I can't remember. It seems like it was a, um, it seems like it was like an orangey top or something like that. No, she had work clothes on. She said, I know what pajamas. Okay. And she told me, she said, well, I've got to get ready. And she like said, she hauled butt back to her bed room. She got, she didn't want to deal with me or something. She got a glass of water, right? Yeah, I got me a glass of water. Okay. Was it a glass of Coke? It was a granco. Granco, okay. So you can remember it was a granco,

6:07but you can't remember what it was like. Yeah, but I guess because I, you know, I looked at it, but like I said, because she came to the door, she like hauled butt back to her bed room. Okay. I can't tell you what I had on it. All right, man. Well, let's do this. Let me, let me go ahead and let you know this. Okay. Okay. All right. And I'm not trying to be rude or mean. All right. But I'm going to be farmed with you. Okay. All right, Trison. Um, the, the lower tab deal, going over there to Eric's and everything. All right, I've already confirmed that's a lot. That's a lot. Listen, listen, listen, listen, Trison. I don't know if you have done a gotten yourself. I don't know if you're involved in this from, from the beginning or if you got drug into it, it didn't mean to. But your story about going over there to get drugs, I've already done, I've already been talking to people to say, no, no, it's, it's a lie. Okay. And the fact that you knew where Gale lived at, no, that's a lie to it. All right. So listen, the only thing you're going to do is make it harder on yourself. So let's stop the bullshit. Do you want to help yourself? Or do you want to go deeper and give it up? I'm not bullshit.

7:08And I don't know what happened to her. She was fine when I left. That's all I know. How would I have anything to do with what happened to her? I also know that you weren't alone. Yes, I was alone. No, Trison. I was alone. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. No, you were not. Okay. You have kids. Yes, I do. Okay. You had a 15-year-old. Yes, I did. Right. And how old you have? 17. Okay. Do you, your 15-year-old? Right. He's still in school, still basically a baby. Everything else, okay? You need to start thinking about him. Okay. I know that. All right. So you need to start thinking about him. Now, are you going to keep lying to me or not? I'm not lying. Why would I have anything to do with Indian kids? Tracing. We know better. Tracing. We have no better. Okay. Okay. We know better. All right. We know. We know things already. All right. Okay. So now, are you going to sit here and lie or not?

8:09I mean, I'm not lying. I've told you everything. All right. You didn't go over there to get no lower tams. Yes, I do. All right. All right. Who gave you the information? My friend Brandy. Brandy Hood. Full firm. Okay. So, if I talk to Brandy, is Brandy going to say, yeah, yeah, I told her. She, yeah, I'm sure she will, but her husband don't know. She takes lower tams. I don't know. Okay. But she told me that. I don't have anything to do with none of this. And it's really, it's really breaking my heart that you did. I like you. I love you. I don't know what happened to Gale. But I know that she's dead. I know she's dead. And you don't think that don't upset all of us. All of us isn't who. Me and everybody at work. Yeah. It's driving us crazy. Let's do this, Tracing. Okay. Let's do this. Let's put it right. You are there at Gale's house that morning. Gale is getting ready. You said to go to work. It looked like she was to me. Okay. Gale doesn't show up to work.

9:11All right. And we all thought that was weird. Okay. Then Saturday morning at 3 3 30 Saturday morning, she's found dead in her house, still with her work clothes on. You are the last person to see her alive. I don't mean I had anything to do with it. I don't know. You are the last person to convince me. I know. I didn't. Why do you think I was telling you? I don't know if there's something that you got drug into. I promised you I'd have. Okay. No. If I knew what happened to her, I would be like, I would have done candy you and told you. Because I'm that type of person. I would have done candy on here and said, this is what I think happened. Or this is what I don't know. It was just a coincidence. Listen, I've got two different versions that you told about what happened. That you were taking a friend home. I told you why I told my work about that. That doesn't make any sense. I didn't know I was over there looking for drugs. You didn't have to tell them that, right? Okay, well. But it doesn't just see, let me put yourself in my shoes. Would that make any sense to you? I understand why it doesn't make no sense to you.

10:11Okay. But that was the way, I mean, if you think I had anything to do with that, why would I even tell my work I went by there? I mean, that would have been stupid. That's right. That's right. I've seen a lot of stupid things. There's a point to the hands. All of this is just a coincidence. That I happen to be by there. Of course it is. I can never do nothing to hurt anybody. I didn't say that you'd hurt anybody. And I couldn't have anything to do with any of it. There's no way I could have anything to do with her. I loved her. I can't even handle that job without her there. It's driving me crazy. Trice, Trice, listen. I know it. Okay. I don't, but there's no problem. You don't know how stressed I am. You have no idea without her there. It's driving me crazy. It's driving me nuts. I really just want to quit my job because I don't, I don't know that I can do it without her there. But I can't leave him there because none of them like, we have a close-in day at 3 o'clock. None of them know how to do it for me. And I just had to walk up and leave everything.

11:14And then they don't know how to do it. And I can't walk up and leave him like that. I promise you, if I know anything or if I knew anything, I would be the first one down here telling you. Yeah, y'all think I had something to do with it. I mean, what do I need to do? First of all, he's not saying anything to do with it. No, he's saying you have a lot more information. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't have any more information. Because the people that we got in this, you know every single one of them. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. You do. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. What did I tell you, Tracy? I told you, we know things. We already know. Topsy. All right. This woman who's never heard anyone in her life that's done everything. That she's supposed to do. She raised a child, single mother, on her own,

12:15worked hard every single day to provide a life for him. Okay, every day she's worked. She's 58 years old she was. We're still getting up every day and going to work. All right. Had her soul never been in trouble in her life, paid all her bills, done exactly what she was supposed to do. And then someone comes inside her house and kills her. How does that make you feel? It makes me feel awful. Okay, and the last person that was there was you. Oh, no, okay, you think that makes me feel awful. I didn't say that you killed her, Tracy. I didn't say that. I did not say that at all. I never said that. But you know more and we already know. If you hadn't figured that out by now, come on. I'm trying to give you a road to pull yourself out of this girl. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to hurt you. I'm trying to give you a road. Now, you can do one of two things. Either you can take it and save yourself or you can drown with the rest of.

13:17I don't know anything else and what I've told you. All right, well, I wish I did. I wish I could sit here and tell you something that would help, but I don't. This podcast is sponsored by IQ Barr. I've got good news and bad news. Here's the bad news. Most protein bars are packed with sugar and unpronounceable ingredients. The good news, there's a better option. I'm Will and I created IQ Barr plant protein bars to empower doers like you with clean, delicious, low sugar, brain and body fuel. IQ bars are packed with 12 grams of protein, brain nutrients like magnesium and lion's mane and zero weird stuff. And right now, you can get 20% off all IQ Barr products plus reshipping. Try our delicious IQ Barr sampler pack with seven plant protein bars for hydration mixes and four enhanced coffee sticks. Clean ingredients, amazing taste and you'll love how you feel. Refuel smarter, hydrate harder,

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16:18You're not telling the whole truth. And listen to me now. I'm real good at what I did, okay? And it's always tough in my job when I'm in a room or like this for somebody I know, okay? Because I know what you're heart. I know you love them babies. You know what I'm saying? You love them babies. Everybody's always talking about how you love them babies. So there's nothing that anybody's gonna say that's gonna make me look at you like a horrible person. You understand? Yeah. People who don't know you don't know you, okay? But it's really important. We don't want people to look at you like a horrible person. If you start, if you continue not to tell the truth about everything, they don't know you like I do. They don't know that maybe you got directed down a wrong path by some bullshit that you're not a heinous person, okay? I can tell them all day you're home. Yeah. But, and they love me, you know what I'm saying? And they're gonna want to watch how I'm saying it straight,

17:18you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, at the end of the day, when they know what they know, and you're sitting here going, what are you talking about? I'm gonna go ahead and tell you. Even though I know you, and even if I didn't know you, that whole bullshit about how this happened to be in that neighborhood that morning, and my car broke down and it started back up, I mean if it was my own mother sitting, how be going, damn, I'm just just coming up some better shit than that. You know, that really is what happened. I understand, but I'm just, I'm just saying, I just said, mom, you know, I'm thinking all of it. It's like I'm talking to her. If I had anything to do with that, why would I have even told her how to do that? The same reason they are all there. I wouldn't ever want to be told on that. That's the same reason they are all there. Sweetheart, see that doesn't mean anything to an investigation, and I'm gonna tell you why. I've never interviewed a murder suspect that didn't put himself there prior to the murder. You know why? Because they already know we're gonna get their fingerprints, and if they say they weren't there at all, and we get their prints, they're done. Yeah. So they always say, yeah, I was there early for that. I've never heard her house before.

18:19I understand. But see, we can tell by certain tests, like a fingerprint, well that fingerprint was put there three months ago, for it was put there yesterday. I don't know why I didn't know that. Okay, yeah, I mean we can tell stuff like that. Yeah. So, and anybody who wants to see us on TV, you know, I mean, I hate those shows. They tell everybody what we can do. Yeah. But they all say, yeah, I was there, but I wasn't there without them, because they don't want to get caught in that lie. Yeah. So they always admit to being there. So by you saying, if those investigators come in here, if you say, well, why would I do that? Sweetheart, everyone, I'm always done. They always do that. That's all part of it. But the thing about it, because I know you, I know you're not capable of doing what I know happened in this one. Yeah. Okay. But there's no thing, there's no doubt in my mind, sweetheart. Regardless what you say. And that's what, you know, when they come out and they talk to me and tell me, and I shake my own head, because I said, I don't even make those sense. I don't know why she's saying it like that. And I asked them, I said, I'm going to go around and talk to her. And this isn't my case.

19:20So I wouldn't be in here right now. They had an opportunity. But I said, I know what, give me an opportunity to go in and just talk to her. I, you know what I mean? I take what we have. I have to take them. I have, I have, I see it. I mean, arthritis everywhere. And I have to take them. A friend of mine still has more time for my pocket move. Who? I think it was either Brandy or it was Amy. My case is Amy. It was either one of them. I don't know which one they both have. Because you made a way. It made me downtown not too long ago. Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying. We're real good about finding out everything. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, I'm sure you are. No offense about the bus. Let me tell you why. Because you're a lot of Tracy. Look at me. You're a lion. I know you're a lion. I know you're a lion. I know it. They know it. This isn't allowed to eat all the sandwiches and stuff, but it's just waiting to come back in here. Just waiting to walk back in here in a minute ago. Are you fucking retarded? Yeah, I mean, that's what they're going to do. That's what they're going to do.

20:23Why? For what? Help me understand. You got a little boy toy. Who gives a fuck? If he did something fucking stupid and eat, if you know about it, you need to stop sweetheart. Be real careful about what I know. Because I've already told you at the beginning this conversation was, I'm not going to tell you everything I know. Yeah. I don't, I don't want to say there's no way Tracy knew he did this. I don't believe he did this. Well then, that's my point. That's the point we're trying to get at, Tracy. You don't believe he did this, okay? You don't believe he did this. There's no point in lying about this right here then. You can tell the truth about this. If you truly didn't know he did this. I don't, I mean, I, because I ain't telling the truth. Of course, I know. I am telling the truth. I went in that neighborhood to find drugs.

21:24I had been up late. We had been up late. Who's weak? Drinking. The tattoo guy was out of there. Who's weak? Who's the tattoo guy? Uh, Seth. Seth, who? Arnold. Okay. And... Seth, Arnold, and who else was there? Uh, my son, and some of my son's friends. Let me ask you this, was Brett there? Yeah, he was there. At your house that night. Uh-huh. What night was that? Um, Thursday night. Thursday night. Sweetheart. You're, uh, you're so close to being there. It's unreal. You're so close to telling the damn truth right now. It's unreal. I'm going to ask you a thousand questions that I already know the answer to. The only thing is, is at the end of the day, when I walk out of here and say, that's the damn up mama. She loves her boys. Don't mind a boy toy or what? She's a mama first. You understand? Sweetheart, you can tell you the fucking line about this. And don't fucking mind how good of a mama you are. Your kids are going to be, you know what I'm saying? It's bad. You understand? Because people are going to look at you like you're a monster.

22:25Like you're a lion. I know they are, but I can't. Sweetheart, we know that why you were in that neighborhood. It may have been to keep that boy from doing something stupid, because you got a win or what was fitting to go down. It may have been for this. And the truth is, I already know. But if you don't tell it, then fuck it. There's a reason why you were there that you lie on about it. And it's going to get to a point, Tracy. Well, I almost say fuck it, because I can only beg you to take this way off your shoulder so long. But I don't understand what I had taken over there. He didn't go here right back home with me. So let me ask you this, when you left that morning, was he still at your house? Yes. Okay, when you got back, was he still at your house? Was he with you when you went over there? No. Stop! Stop! He was not. Why would he be in the car with me? Oh my god. I'm not saying he was in the car with you, sweetheart. I'm real good at what I do.

23:26I'm not saying he's in the car with you. He could have been right in front of you or right fucking behind you. No, nobody was in front of you ever, homie. Sweetheart, we know one of you were there. Why was I there? Why am I going to tell you everything? I was there to freaking untrust. By who? Who would you go by dirt from? For the who ever? What's his name? Erick. That's all I know, it's my name Erick. Erick? Yeah, it's the third house on the right. I could have been on the wrong road. Why, what, black boy? He's why. She said he was why. His name is Erick and she had bought tabs from him. Why? One because they're scared, okay? Most of the time they have to be in bed to check or realize that it is what it is for them to go. And most of the time I made a start cry, I'm so out of line, I was just scared. I'm going to be honest, I told him, I said I want to get that girl to a point where she realizes that she knows. And then she'll cry, she'll say she's sorry.

24:27And then no hard feelings at the end of the day. What is it going to take to get there? I mean, I just really, if I'm one, I really want to. Okay, so you don't think Brett had anything to do with this? I really don't. I don't understand how he did it. So if Brett had nothing to do, if you don't think Brett had anything to do with this, and he knows, and there was no reason that he would think you know that he had anything to do with this, right? Yeah. Colin. Well, why would I want to Colin? Why would I even want to? Hang on, sweetheart. If you know he didn't have nothing to do with this. And he wouldn't have any reason to think that you had that he'll answer the phone for you. We both know one, you're not going to want to Colin. Two, we both know if you do Colin, he's not going to answer the phone. And then you know, without a doubt, you can't lie to me anymore. No, he don't always answer the phone. Okay, well, Colin, let's try. Why though? Put the phone down, let's Colin. I just want to get you to that place, sweetheart.

25:28I don't understand what I'm wanting about. Hang on, Colin. Just so I can show that you're being honest and you're not doing things sneaky. You mind if I look at your phone while you do it? No, okay. I have a phone with number. Did you just delete this number before I looked over? Uh-uh. It's in here. All right, go to your recent calls. I don't have any. That's fine, I'll try to get my son around home. Baby, you deleted all your recent calls before you walked in here. I always delete my phone. Baby, no girl does that. I was looking at my messages. I even delete my messages. The only messages I've seen before. You know why? Tracy, because you're lying. No, I'm not. Tracy, you're lying. You are like there's no need. See, you think I've seen her lying. I had something to do with that. Tracy, I think that you're scared that he may have. And you don't want to be the one to say it.

26:29Tracy, you've just, you've deleted everything, babe. I did, I did delete everything. And I didn't really mean to. But I always do. How did you accidentally delete everything? Let me show you how I actually deleted one thing. No, Ross. Let me show you, you hit edit and clear. And I accidentally hit clear all. And I did not mean to. OK, well, then go to your messages. If you don't mind. Because I want to see if you accidentally deleted all of them. No, I didn't. I delete my messages after most of my conversations. I dealt with my son. And I just text her earlier because I got to talk to her about a file at work. And I dealt my days. And I didn't this one just so in case I needed it. OK, so you've been seeing this message March, right? When was the last time you talked to him? Earlier today. Earlier today. OK, where was he at? I didn't ask him where he was at. When was the last time you saw him? Yesterday?

27:29You saw him yesterday. Where were y'all at when y'all saw each other? At the apartment. At who's apartment? My mom. Tracy, please stop lying to me. Stop, hang on. I need you to stop lying to me. OK, because in a minute, I'm going to start looking at you like you're a monster. OK, come on, baby. That's ridiculous. You've erased everything out of your phone. I did. Stop, Tracy. You don't mind how many times you smile. I did. OK, listen to me. You're pretty girl. You ain't got to do that cute little grin away. I'm not doing that. That smile is something I accidentally do when I get nervous or I'm upset or anything. Listen to me. Look at me. You know more than ever now I'm going to be looking at you like a monster. When you're deleting all that shit out of your phone, don't tell me it was an accident. You're lying on your ass. OK, I guess I just lied about it. OK, you're deleting all that out of your phone. OK, I actually called Brady to drop off the dime. I actually called him. Why would I do that? I just told you the man's a suspect and a murder investigation. And I told you. And last year, I part of it.

28:30Now what you said, why do I want to bring him into all this? Sweetheart, you didn't bring him into this? I brought him into this. When I told you, had you said his name, what did I say his name? You did. OK, so you didn't bring him into nothing. So you should have anything to say that I said, calling yourself. Shit, am I made any done? Let's call him. We'll call him. Call him. Brett. Are you really buying a car online on Auto Trader right now? Really? At a playground? Yeah, really. Look at these listings from dealers. Wow, your search can really get that specific. Really? And you just put in your info and boom. Cars in your budget. Mom needs a second, honey. You can really have it delivered? Really? Or I can pick it up at the dealership. One sec, sweetie. Mommy's buying a car. I think kid is walking up the slide. Hi, all again, really? Auto Trader, buy your car online. Really? The sun shining, birds are singing

29:31and all feels right in the world. Until the season changes, and suddenly, you lose your motivation to get out of bed. In fact, one in five people experience some form of depression no matter the season or time of year. At the American Psychiatric Association Foundation, our vision is to build a mentally healthy nation for all, because we want you to live your best life and be your best you all year round. Please visit mentallyhealthination.org to learn more. Yes, hey there. It's a sky. How are you, bud? Good, how are you? Just to make sure I'm talking to the right Brett that I think I'm talking to, what's your last name, Brett? Kelly? Brett Kelly. Okay. All right. Brett, are you in making? I'm your son. Where are you at, making? Are you in making? Are you in making? No, I'm sure. Where are you at, buddy? One of the robins. One of the robins? Where are you at, and one of the robins? Staking shade.

30:32Staking shade. That's some good stuff, man. Yes, sir. Okay. Let me ask you a question. Your girl, Tracy here has been honest with me, okay? All right. I want to see if you're as honest as she has. In the last hour, how many times does she text message you? In the last hour? Yeah. Five. Five times. Okay. All right. All right. Cool. Let me ask you a question, Brett. You want to come see me? I can't. You know who I am, right? I'm not sure. Well, you know who I am, right? I'm not sure. That was your name. Now, I'm saying, if she's text message you in the last hour, you know she's down here talking to the polies. I've seen the messages. She thought she was going to lead them, but I got to them a little faster.

31:32Then she could. So, you know she's talking to the polies. And I already know you know that. Yes, sir. All right. So, you're going to come see me? Yes, sir. All right. You're going to come. Where are you going to come back here to City Hall? Um, where's the one we come to? All right. Come to the detective bureau. Brett. It's located at the corner, first and popular. All right. Yes, sir. Whether you show up or not, it's going to tell me one of those, man. I'm going to walk in and come down. How long is it going to take you to get here, my friend? Oh, about 35 minutes. 35 minutes. All right. Listen, now we're going to. Me and Tracy, we're going to hang out until you get here, okay? That's fine. You're a good man. I appreciate you, brother. On a bomb. Fuck. Where do you have your drunk walkings? Oh, that's not on me. Where's that? Honestly, it's probably in one of my paintings. I rarely keep up with that thing.

32:33You drove up here without drugs? Well, I'm breaking the law. I got life here, so don't write me a secret there. Okay. Do you have any idea why I do down here? None whatsoever. None whatsoever. Okay. Let me just get some basic information. The first name is Michael, right? Michael. Okay. How old are you? I'm 18. 18. Jibarté is January 19, 1994. Where are you working at now? No, we're looking. Hey, looking. How long ago you been left a Nissan dealership? A week and a half? A week and a half? No, a long and a half. What'd you do there? I was a technician. I changed it all. I was so you didn't have to worry about commissioning that paid. Yeah. Well, earlier. Yeah, I paid hourly, but I only got paid $8. $8 an hour? Yeah. Wow. That's not all I saw. You think? Where was that Nissan dealership at? One of them? One of them? One of them? I think it's... Thursday. Okay. Take me through your day, Thursday.

33:33Thursday. It's time to get a job. Literally, I stay at that house. Don't do that to me and Scott. And Tom goes to school. And when you play Hicks boss or just sit there and chill. Yes. Honestly, we know life is pretty much. And then when I'm not doing something, I'll try to find a job. Or see you at the time. Well, I just mean, I don't mean what you're talking about. What did you do? You know what? I'm talking about, let's see, Thursday would have been October 4th. About playing with you again. All day. All day. All day. All day. Where'd you go that night? Uh, nowhere. So you were basically at the house from all day? From the... Did you sleep there the Thursday? How was my Wednesday night? All day. So you? All right. If I tell you, uh, I smoke weed. What does that mean? I don't care. You're coming up, cops. You know, dress is good. All right. Well, see what I'm saying, man. I don't care. That's what I did. I just stayed there all day. Smoke. And that's it. I just stayed there and sleep. That's all I did. Thursday. Friday.

34:33That's all I did. I didn't go to the club. I used to go to the club all the time. I didn't go to the club Friday. Stay there. Play video games. Chill with all my friends because all of our friends come over. So that's all I did. Okay. So all day Thursday. All day. And in Thursday night, I didn't go anywhere. Stay right there at the house smoking weed. So not at the house. There's not weed at the house. Where'd you go? Right outside. Not me right outside. Right outside. Just in the apartment complex with somebody. All right. So let me make it more clear. You do not leave the apartment complex. No. No. All those outsides because you can't smoke in some. No. So we got that taken out of the way, right? Thursday. Didn't go nowhere. Swearing your mother's eyes. Swearing on my mother's grave. Eyes hard. Okay. Okay. Now. Friday. I'm asking you to scratch your right down here. Cheat, buddy. Cut that up. Mm-hmm. You don't like it that scratch? Uh-huh. Is it this big, long one? Yeah.

35:33Well, that was made into a dude named Limi Grisling that word when I worded a fopsie heart. How long ago was that? About two, two weeks ago. Okay. You got the big penguin? Yeah. Yes. I did name Limi Grisling. How are you doing? Your relationship with Tracey. Mm-hmm. How was that relationship? Uh-huh. Pretty good. What you made? I mean, are you guys in a relationship? A lot of people ask that. No. Why would Tracey say, uh-huh? It's okay. I mean, you're okay. If you're in a relationship, I know that little man. I know that. All right. You don't want your best friend to know that you're the head of mom. That is, you know, your best friend's mom. Well, no. It's not that I don't want to know in a relationship. I just try to keep the word relationship out of it. Because I don't like that. I don't like having a girlfriend. So you just hand sex with her. You can call me. Okay. Are you all right? Yeah. Okay. Because she said that. Tracey has been out here today, all day today. Tracey said a lot of things. There's a lot of things that I know.

36:33All right. Now, before I go any further, everything that I've just talked to you about and spoke to you about your talent, truth, though. So you swear on your mother. You swear on your mother. So I'll put my hand on a bottle. That's the end. Oh. That's my honest opinion. I'm going to stick to that. Okay. I'll lean. All right. Well, let me show you something. I'm trying to call her. You don't want to stay here for a minute, do you? Okay. I'm right back. Don't go anywhere, Brian. All right. Oh, man. Tracey, you've already told us that she drove you up to Atlanta to get the pass forward. So. All right, then why did you ask me? Okay. I want to take you. That's good. I like it. I like it. I like it. Okay. All right. So you line it. We're all going to get stabbed with stabbing. And how? How? I say to you, stab. Looks like a thing, Brian. We're going to stab you just about the true line. All right. So we know the true line. Okay. Are you going to continue on? Are you going to be honest? Yeah. Because you're going to work with a heart. Okay. You know, work with a heart.

37:33All right. So I won't write on the questions. Okay. Why did you get the pass forward? I guess because I just got it. Now. Okay. What did you tell Dustin when you talked to Dustin? About the lady? The old lady? I don't know. I don't know. Yes, she did. No, I don't know. Why are you already known? Why are you going to bring another paper out? I said that's it. That's why. I don't know. Look. Listen to me, Brian. Do you want to look like a monster on this? Or do you want to hit? Okay. Do you? Help. I don't know. Listen. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I know that you're involved. Okay. No. And you know what I'm talking about. I can see in your eye. All right. And tell me. Okay. Do you want to help yourself enough? Do you want to talk to us about it or not? Well, I got caught up here. You told me the reason why I come up here. All right.

38:33So how am I going to help you out with your own need if I don't even have any help from myself? We know. So we know that Tracey didn't go to work Thursday. All right. Okay. She took you up to the line to get a passport. All right. All right. You were planning on going where? Tell me. Where did you tell Dustin you were going to go? I'm going to tell me. Why did I? Yeah. Since I'll say y'all know everything, I'm pretty sure you're going to tell me the whole of the entire story. I'm not going to give you everything that we've got. Because I won't say how much further you're going to lie and put your stuff in a hole. Okay. I'm going to tell you what you tell me. I ain't going to ask another father questions until you ask me that question. You made $8 an hour at the Nissan dealership, right? How much money do you have in your account? Is there a... You don't have any money in your account? Okay.

39:40You don't have none? You sure got it? If I got something, you're going to have them soon telling me. I watch the first 48 all the time. I bet you're going to tell me everything. You know that I'm going to tell you everything. Yes, that's how cars are doing. I'm not stupid. I'm not telling you nothing. All right. All right. I'm giving you a chance to tell me about what happened over there. Let me just go and put it down for you. I'm giving you a chance to tell me about what happened over a sensitive overall with the elderly woman. I die. Okay. Okay. So, you want to go and tell me about it? No. I don't know anything. I'm looking you in your eyes. I don't care what you don't say if I'm going to go down looking like a monster. Fingerprints. You got fibers. Everything. Okay. All right. I just left the autopsy today. I can see it. Look. Look. Brett. Brett and I only call him saying that they can see it in my eyes. Just because I got a weird look in my eyes, don't mean that. You're a heart drop when I brought it up, son. I know you're lying. And I know you were there. No, you got evidence. Yes. We've got evidence.

40:40Unless I see it, then that's it. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Unless I see my fingerprint put on something. And a fingerprint so-called is mine that was supposedly whatever you found. So, what's your... The way you are now. And that's the way you want to stay right. You're going to look like someone that don't give a shit. Do you not care? Look. This is what. You don't care. Tell me what. Tell me. You don't care about the type of this woman who's 58 years old. She's dead. I'm sorry that happened. All right. You don't care. I'm going to do it. I'm sorry. I did not kill the lady. I don't know anything. Did I say you killed her? You said the lady ended up dead. Why would I be here? Did I say that you killed her? No, but I wouldn't be here if you thought something like that. And then you need to bring it up a dead lady. I'm not. Maybe you were there. Maybe I was there. Maybe I did it. Maybe I did not. I'm sure you're going to tell me. Because cops are going to get whatever they want. What happened? I appreciate you having that much faith. Then it's downright. I appreciate you. I do. A lot of wrong people. So I think that you know something. I don't know. I don't know.

41:40What did you just say? You just sit right here and you sit in front of this lady. Maybe I did kill her. Maybe I didn't. Maybe I was there. Maybe I wasn't. Yeah, but there's a lot of maybe. Now look at that. Say that though. But was I. All right. That's the question. But was I there? You're going to answer that question. You know. Even if you don't say y'all got everything. Are you saying you were not there? No. I was not there at that house. You were not there at that house. No. Even though we can put you there. Even if you can put me there. I don't care what y'all do to put me there. I'm sure I got a time machine. Well, he's tough guy, man. Yeah. Were you that tough with the lady? Do you know what her name was? Do you know what her name was? Look at me, Brett. Do you know what her name was? What was it? Her name was Gail Spencer. She was 58 years old. She had two grandbabies. Small. She has son. That loved her. She has sister. That loved her. She loved her job. She had neighbors. That loved her.

42:40Okay. Her name was Gail. Okay. My name is Brett. And I don't know how to have anything to do involved with myself with that lady. Did you bring back her? I don't know. You brought her. I'm bad. Everybody that's you got here, supposedly. Did she scratch you, Brett? No. She just scratched you, didn't she? No. No. If she scratched me, small as I am, you can pull, supposedly, the DNA off her fingernails of my skin, if she did, supposedly scratch me. Wait. I didn't wait any longer. Yeah. Let's get out. And let me get you guys. We're getting it. Don't worry about that. You can get it. I got like 100 people that says they've seen the blood come off my face. But there's big pink scratch in my work and me wrestling with somebody. What's she telling you? I can tell you that. Why are you going to tell me that? And not even tell me. Why? That's like blue balls. This isn't a game, Brett. I know. It's not a game. Yeah, it's real life. Look, I don't know if it was an accident or not. But I need you to tell me if it was.

43:41Maybe he didn't mean for the lady to die. She didn't think she scratched my face. Why do you think it'd be an accident? If you think the old lady scratched my face. Hmm? You said it'd maybe be an accident or something. Maybe it was an accident. The sun shining, birds are singing and all feels right in the world. Until the season changes and suddenly you lose your motivation to get out of bed. In fact, one in five people experience some form of depression no matter the season or time of year. At the American Psychiatric Association Foundation, our vision is to build a mentally healthy nation for all. Because we want you to live your best life and be your best you all year round. Please visit mentallyhealthynation.org to learn more. All right. I don't know if you can tell me how I'm going to find the case out or whatever. It's like no emotion with you whatsoever, Brett.

44:41It's like you just can't be. Is that true? I don't know. You don't know if you're empty or not. I've got a heart like everybody else does. You're not showing it. Well, it's vegan. That's about all it's doing is meat. I don't know, man. I don't know if he is. If he did it, man. I think she could what was there as anyone. Yep. I think so. I mean, let me hear whatever his name's already done. Got a good chunk out of you anyway. So I don't guess you could have. So this is how we're going to play, Brett. I'll be waiting here for further questions. If you are going to ask me any more, if you aren't, I'll say y'all got one crown on me, so... I've got two. Yeah. I guess I'll be going times that so y'all know how I'm at. You sure you have a lot about the publics. Yeah, I did. How was that from watching the first 48?

45:42No, because I don't like them when I try to stay away from them. Well, it's super possible. So how does that make you your expert on us? Because I've studied y'all a lot. Damn cool. They're all the same. They're all the same. Yeah, you know, people with tattoos on are on. They're all the same too. Yeah. Then you got preachers with tattoos and all that. That's right. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You sure do. Cops with tattoos. You got cops like me that we never get tattoos. Am I sure? So you see my point? I can't judge me because I got a badge. And you can't judge me because I got tattoos. That's right. That's making you feel that way. That's wrong. Because that's what you've done to us since you sat down in that chair. I don't know, you shit. I don't know. I don't know, Tracy shit. I know y'all shit. You don't know who I owe. That 50-year-old woman. That's who I owe. I owe you. And I'm going to find out. All right. I already got a good damn idea of who killed her. All right. Mm-hmm. Let me tell you, you don't have the skill son to fuck with us down here.

46:45Let me just be boy. You don't have that skill. Okay? So play all fucking day long because we got all night. All right? I promise you that. You don't have the skill to fuck with us down here. I don't have a job so I'll be here. That's right. I can't, I got your 12 grand that you put it in the bed. I was putting the bed and you can't see his guy. All right. We do. You really know about it? I don't know, I'm telling. I don't know what he does. I don't know what he's doing. You don't have to make a phone call and... You never wanna make a phone call or something. I don't know. I'm letting you know, I'm trying to make a phone call. I get it. I don't know what he's doing. He's making a phone call or something. You got you wrong, with your breath. I don't know. If you want to make a phone call, you've got to hit this. Now I need you in the dollar number to get out, all right? So hold tight, we'll be back. Did you have a little sense of error? No, I did not. Were you there? No, I was not. Were you over there with Tricks? Did you write were you in the car with Tricks? No, I was not.

47:45Okay. Because you know what they're saying about you out there. Right. All them out there. They're saying he's a psychopath. Are you a psychopath? No. That's what they're saying. They're saying you're social. They're saying that you went in there. You killed that one. Are you with that one? All right. When the woman was killed. And that you don't care. That's just that. No. No. No. No. That's not true. Keep things happening. Maybe it wasn't a robbery that went wrong that you couldn't control. You didn't do it for it to happen, right, Brett? I mean, is that a possibility? Is that a possibility? Shit happens, right? You see what I'm saying? Shit happens. Maybe you're like, fuck. You didn't mean for it to happen. I said, no. He's not. He's not that. He's only 18 years old. He's not a psychopath. He's not. That's what they're saying. Are they right, Brett? Are they right? People are going to think what they want.

48:49That's right. They're going to do about it. I'm asking. I mean, maybe they're all right. The way that you present yourself to me. Everybody else down here is that you don't give a choice. What a choice to say. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I ain't got lucky. You know, I shoot straight from there. I'm going straight forward with it. Since I think since you've been here, haven't you? Have I not treated you better? I have a curse statue. I have a devikology names. I mean, the other detaches are talking to Trace. But it's not good. I can tell you that right now. What if you just look on how I walk down? I walk down. I walk down. I walk down. I walk down. I walk down. I walk down. I walk down. I walk down. I walk down. But look on her face. When they show her that. I ain't doing that. I'm not going to tag you. Oh, I mean, raise your head. What are you living for? Is that a camera? No. We don't have cameras in here. Okay. Just say the first 48 bros. The only thing. The only people that are talking right now are me and you and you and you. Great. And can you swear on that? Yeah. I can swear on that. I can swear on that. I can swear on that. I can swear on that. I can swear on that. I can swear on that.

49:49I can swear on that. I can swear on that. Yeah. I can swear on that. The only people that are angry are talking right now. Are me and you. I can swear on that. Maybe the only one is dropping? Yes. Maybe the only one is dropping. Yes. Maybe the only one is dropping. And for this point forward, look at my buddy. And this point forward. And I'm the only one you want to talk to you. You know, if so, I won't say another. Another damn word. Okay. Brett, look at me. I'm here with you all the way. Just mean to you. Okay. Time for this. Okay. I already know. You don't sleep shit. I don't know. Fine. But I don't know if I can reduce my time. Okay. We don't play promises here, but the fact that, you know. We're not going forward to signatures. No, we can't win. We should address the name.

50:49I was fucked. But it won't say my name in here. No, he didn't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You got my signature? Yeah. I'll go watch it. You know, I also got a signature up here. Yes, we did. And this honestly did have that word. They did honestly happen. Yeah. Okay. Shabb ol' egg. Okay. And honestly did it. It's only going to be a lethal injection. I want to treat you right since you're trading me right, okay? I'll be following about the task war. That's okay. So you look, I ain't gonna mend the 99 seconds. I'll cover that. Um, that's all? Damn!

51:49Damn, I ain't got a psycho bag. I know you're not for it. I can look at you and tell you. Shit, just went back in. And I just need to know about it. I need to know why. I need to know that. Come on, buddy. I told you she's just been here. Come on, buddy. This is life, ain't it? I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. I don't think I know what I never said to you. I'm not gonna make you promises. But what I want is I want you. I want you. This is your chance, Brett. Okay, listen. To do, you can actually do right for this woman by doing this. Okay? That way I can contact her son and her sister. And you can tell them, look. He told me what happened. And I'm not, I can't put words in your mouth. But maybe I can tell them that you're sorry for what you got.

52:49Do you understand? And if I can do that, I know God can forgive you. And maybe the family will have some peace, okay? So let's start from the, let's start from how this got started. Okay, I'm right here with you. Have Tracy gave in yet? That's Tracy what? I'm giving in yet. You know what I mean? Well, Tracy's down in the hall. I don't know if she has or not. Okay? I can't say that. But I know she's, let me put just what I know, we know she's involved. Okay? I know she is. But she's down in the hall talking to the other detective. Okay? I've fallen wrong. Calm down. Calm down. Here. I can't, I can't be on this. I don't have the cord for you. You want to sell phone? Huh? All right. You want to wait? You want to talk first? Let's talk first and you can call your mom, okay?

53:50I'm going to tell you everything. All right, come on. I don't think I'll let you. All right. You want me to step out? All right. Now, now. My mom ain't getting in trouble. She didn't do nothing. Just a corner. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Your mom's, you're just calling. You're never getting in trouble. Now. Huh? I'm sorry. Hold on a second. All right, now there's no number. Okay. Let me stand. Mom. Yes. Where are you going? Coming up. All right. Don't say anything. You're going to let me talk. I love you. I love you. I love you a lot. I love you a lot. I love you a lot. I love you a lot. Go on a homecoming. I'm so dead. I love you. I love you.

54:50Thank you. I love you mom. I love you. What's going on? You bad? This is, this is, she's gone. Fuck. That was, that was very manly time to die. See you later.

55:57All right. Okay. All right. Um, let's start from the beginning. Let's start from the beginning. Who was in there? Okay. Who was there? You? Who else? I'm saying, why don't you? Why don't you and I, it's all right, it's all right. I'm not wearing a wash up. Okay. I know you're here. You've had my words since you walked in the door. And I'll get straight up here. Okay? Who else is there? No, what I tell you, you're not just going to give and walk out here. Listen right, the old line.

56:57I'm listening to the old line. Listen right, the old line. I'm listening to the old line. I'll be right here. I told you. I'll be right here with the old line. Keep on going. So you were dropped off over there. I was dropped off over there. All right. Well, I was dropped off over there. After that. I was there by myself. I had a pistol. Outer hostage. I ain't a shooter. I didn't know you on there that. I knew she died of suffocation.

57:57Wow. First? And I'll tell you everything. You need to do it. I'm not. You want to. You want to. You want to. Leave it or. You do it. Please. Okay. I'm not very good with predators though. Huh? You don't matter. Okay. All right. You want an answer? All right. All right. All right. We'll have a new father. Jesus Christ. Give the bread. The strength to come forward. And, um, bless this heart. For, um, for being willing to come forward here today. For, for he loves you, Jesus, for he loves his mother. He is sorry for what he's done. And, um, he's here today to, um, to put all his sins on the table. And, uh, and we ask you, uh, lower to, um, to please forgive him. For, for his, his, his, sorry for what he has done.

58:57And he's here to, to put it all on the table today. And it's hoping that, that, even though society might not be able to forgive him. But he knows that, that, that God can, can forgive him. And that only God can judge him. Amen. I dropped over there, that morning. All right. So, that's it. That's our drop over there. I walked in, had a pill to put it to her head. I'd take her up, put her on the bed. I'm in tighter. Let her gaze the restroom when she has some laying on. And then I didn't take her up no more. Because I feel sorry. I've cried. I don't want to do it. I sat there and let her sit on her bed. I'll let her watch TV. I'll let her smoke cigarettes. I did everything she wanted to do. A shot of a liquor. She did it. She just sat there. I'll let her do whatever she wants.

59:58She wanted to go pee. She could do that. I just, I didn't want to do it. At all. And then, my sister was involved also. I don't know where she's at, honestly. I don't know. It's a Courtney Kelly. I did. I did. Okay. I set up a cat dinner. What did you set up a cat dinner with? Trash cat. Trash cat? What color was it? Was it like a, when he goes in a trash can, it was a small, like a little grocery set. No. Okay. They've been all that. Which, how'd you leave? I don't know. I know what you took her. You took her car. It's a good car. Did you take her wallet? No, I didn't. I didn't touch it. No, no. Did your sister

1:00:58because Gail's wallet's mess? I just want to get it back to the family. I really didn't touch it. I didn't touch it. I didn't touch it. It's still a moment. What about our cell phone? Because it's messing. I didn't touch that. I did not touch anything. I didn't touch it. I didn't try to steal anything. I didn't. Did not. What did Courtney do when I came right here? Were you all there? Courtney was there. I thought she said Courtney was there. No, she wasn't. Courtney wasn't there at the same time. My house was Courtney involved. All she was going to do was leave with me because I needed some family to go. Okay. Who? You were in the house by yourself? Just by myself. But Tracy's the one that led you over there too. All I did was get an address. Tracy gave you that address? I was just going to get it. You had an address. All right. Just Tracy gave you that address. Tracy knew what you were going to do.

1:02:00Right. Let's see. Yes. All right. Okay. So now I know Tracy knew what you were going to do. Was it just supposed to be a robbery? Brad and the end up going too far? Is that what it is? I've had her for a while. Did you travel around in her house? Huh? Travel around in the house. I did. She wanted to go look for some little things. I don't know. I'll let her get up and do what she wanted. What was she going to do? I don't know. I just looked into her toys. I did. That was the stuff. Out of her toys. Were you looking for money? No. I was looking for like any wires or anything. I had cameras or anything. She said she had to take some of her men in her phone. So I gave her some of her medicine. What about the closet? That's where I looked. You throw all the clothes out there looking for like cameras or something? Well, no. I let her sit down there. Oh, you let her sit down in there. When she sat down there at first because she was in there. And then I get her, get on her bed after she's peed. And then she stayed on her bed the whole entire day. She stayed on her bed the whole entire day. Now, I have some bleachers.

1:03:00I'm going to get some bleachers. I'm going to get some bleachers. I'm going to get some bleachers. I'm going to get some bleachers. Now, I have some bleachers and some clover rocks that was found in that hall bath. And it was on her clothes. Now, how did that come to that? What did you do? She sprayed it. She sprayed it where? No. So no cream or cream or anything. I'm going to get tough. Okay. So you just sprayed it on her? Around. Okay. Around where on the bed? Stuff like that? Okay. Did you have gloves on when you were over there? What kind of gloves? It's very good black glove. They're going to like to everything burning. It's going to like... That's honestly. Clothes. Everything. Where did you burn them up at? It was burning up, son. A department? It's in a trash can. In the department. So nobody said nothing. Now, where's that gun at? Huh? It's gone. Do it. Where did you throw it? And the river. Which river off of the house and her? We can name him. Okay. Wow.

1:04:00All this was just... It was the first to be... What was all this over? I was just told to go and do it. And get my pads for it. By Tracy. No. How about Tracy? Everything wasn't by Tracy. By Lisa. Huh? Wait. Who told you to go do it? I just was told. We'll break it down and swim in so far, pal. I mean, we've been doing good. But now, I need to know who told you to go do it. You've been on so far. There ain't no need to go down by yourself for this, son. When you were just doing what you were told to do. I mean, you're only 18 years old. My life's gone already. But you're the one sitting here being honest. The Toyota Tundra and Tacoma are built to keep going. Blending rugged muscle with precision engineering. All supported by Toyota's time-tested legacy of dependability. Step into it, Tundra, and feel the unyielding capability

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1:06:02Sure can. Let me just say. Where did he go? Oh, right here. Thank you. Look at that. Hello? Hey, what? They know. They know what? Hey, where's Seth at? Seth, the duty man.

1:07:02Seth, the one that bought the most, actually dropped me off to the house. All right, where's he at? He left, and he left my guess off again. Well, the cops know everything. One of them, someone made a police report and had all the texts and on in the call information. Made a police report of what? Of what we did, and I just told them. But I don't know what you did. That's what I'm saying. They know what I'm doing. What did you do? I killed somebody. Who? This lady. Why? I don't know mom. But you are? I'm on the phone by myself. I think. I don't know. All I know is I love you. I mean, I love you too, but one time did you do it by yourself? I don't know mom. For money? Not yourself.

1:08:03Yes. From nice? Yes. Why would you do that to me? I don't know mom. Can you confess? Yes. Where's my car? It's in a parking deck. They made me walk. They made me park the car and walk. You'll get it back shortly today or something. Are you kidding now? No. I'm going to prison for a lot. Who said that? The idea. There's someone I can talk to. When they get back in. I was the person that you did that to. This old lady. Did you know her? No. What did you just break in on her? I walked in.

1:09:03You walked in on water? I walked in on her and broke in her house. They always put you up to that. I don't know mom. Against you? No. That's right. No mom. But look, I'm about to call dad. I love you mom. I really do love you mom. I love you too. One of the detectives are people here. Can you ask them call me? Yes. What do I come and see you and find out what's going on? I don't know. Whenever they get back. Can you ask them call me?

1:10:03Yes. I told you son never do something. You can't get out. That's what you get in trouble. Why would you do that? I don't know mom. Your whole life is gone. Wow. I don't know. Because I was struggling in here money. Nobody is struggling that damn bad. You're dead. I'll always have you door open to you. I'll always have you get along with him. You're gonna get your job these days. Do I want me to go and get sued in a family to call? No. Look, I gotta call dad and let him know. I love you mom.

1:11:03You can call me. I love you. This is Mike. Hey dad. Hey bud. Someone home. It's over. What do you mean it's over? What are you doing? I'm in a police station. Well I don't know what happened. You're not saying anything to anybody to lure the lawyer involved. Cardi told him. What? Cardi told him. What happened to him? Kill this old man. What? What? What? What? What?

1:12:03What? What? What? What? What? What? Can I come up with a pity? I'll never be out. I'm not being different life. You ain't even know that. God do. I'm already told him. Everything. What? What's it all about? All I'm saying to do is don't explain that to me. I told everything dad. From the moment I woke up to the moment I went to sleep that day. There ain't nothing else to tell. Where you would think of? No, by myself. You would buy yourself? Yeah. And why did you? Because I did it, dad. I don't hate.

1:13:03This is probably recorded or whatever. I know it. I don't know. But I'm one of their phones. Have you tried a few moments? Yeah. I did. It's been a year, son. I know it's not me, dad. This is what I like to do. I just wanted money and I couldn't get it. You got one of the ill-few and you can get any money in the world. What did you think money for? I was broke. I can barely pay my bills. Wait. What the hell is that? What the hell is that? What?

1:14:08What? There's no more to it than that. No, there's no one. You made something else. Tell me to have a night and make more damn snacks than what you just did. Now you've listened. Now go to your thing. Toyota Tundra and Tacoma are built to keep going. Blending rugged muscle with precision engineering. All supported by Toyota's time-tested legacy of dependability. Step into a Tundra and feel the unyielding capability with the available iForce Max engine. Tundra puts out impressive power, torque, and towing performance. And the roomy high-tech cabin keeps you connected on the go. Or take a look at Tacoma made for drivers who push past the path. Agile, tough and relentless with available features like crawl control, portable JBL speaker, a power lift gate, so gear goes in fast and the adventure keeps moving. The Tacoma and Tundra are engineered to endure season after season, mile after mile. So drive one home today, visit toyota.com or stop by your local Toyota dealer to find out more Toyota.

1:15:11Let's go places.