When Apps Become Chains | Zorayr Khalapyan & Josie Leung

In this episode, we dive into the evolving app chain ecosystem with Josie from MilkyWay and Zo from Blackwing. They discuss their decision to build on emerging platforms like Initia, exploring the technical advantages of full stack control and customization. We examine Blackwing's innovative trading system and MilkyWay's restaking protocol, before delving into the challenges and benefits of growing within a new blockchain ecosystem. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Josie: https://x.com/josietyleung Follow Zo:https://x.com/0xzozozo Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (01:29) Blackwing & Milky Way Origin Story (10:08) Modular Blockchains vs Applications (17:13) Permissionless III Ad (18:44) User Assurances & Modular Unlocks (29:12) Zero Sum Dynamics (38:29) Ideal Usecases (45:05) Growth Advantage for Chains - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.(00:00) Introduction