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This episode explores the spiritual principles of hearing God's voice, sanctification, and living in God's kingdom through biblical teachings and personal insights. It emphasizes the importance of surrender, prayer, and understanding God's benefits for a fulfilled spiritual life.
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Good morning, Kathy.
Here we are, and I believe this will be now the 4th of March.
Yes.
Headed into spring, which will be very exciting.
Do you typically take any kind of trip in the spring time at all?
You know, we did when the kids were in school because there were spring breaks and whatnot.
So now that we're past the school break things, that changes things a little bit, that being
said, the day this air is on the 4th of March, Dan and I will be on our way to Alaska,
which is not a typical spring trip by any stretch.
However, in this sweetness, we were planning a trip to go visit Caleb and Olivia out
that direction.
And as it turns out, I don't know if I shared this with you yet or not, as it turns out,
he has a trip to Alaska's part of his sales territory.
And he has a trip out there during this time that happens to coincide with the timing of
the I did a rod.
And so rather than Dan and I meeting him in Oregon to visit, we're actually meeting he and
Olivia in Alaska and we're going to enjoy the opening ceremony of the I did a rod and
we're going to bless you.
And then we're going to go on to do a little spa out there and have some fun with that
and do some dog sledding ourselves and chase the northern lights.
So it should be a lot of fun.
But yeah, we will be on a plane as we win this airs.
So heading out there for the first time I've never been to Alaska.
Yeah, that'll be fun.
I did ride it.
It's really fun to see the amazing, you know, dog sleds and dogs and the fact that they're
going to go.
Go ahead.
And I'm going to say sadly, although I'm super excited for it, usually come March when
we travel.
We're jonesing to get somewhere warm.
That's not going to be the case this time.
We're going where it may actually be a little colder, but it'll be a great experience.
So we are, we are very much looking forward to it.
Yeah, I think the dog sled, that's not going to be the beach there for sure.
No, no, and they give you like even when you're doing that, you know, they actually have
special clothing for you to wear, you know, like even if you bring your own there, tell
you not to do it to wear theirs because it will be very cold.
So they have certain specifications they want you in, but super excited for it.
It'll be a good adventure, but it will not be my typical spring break person.
No, usually it's Florida or something, you know, that'll be fun to see them.
We've a reminder that, you know, talk to them about when they could get on it.
I love them to be at Gaskas.
They're kind of gone through all this interesting time to move them there.
And now they're there and we love, we love, we'd love to catch up with them.
Yeah, I know that's on their radar too, because they have, every time I talk to them,
there's a new God story.
He is just unfolding things left and right.
And it's so fun to watch, you know, and that's part of, you know, that's part of what
we're trying to share with people is that I'd, knows your individual story and it's to
have you live grand things, grants is supernatural, be blessed, to be a blessing, sir.
You know, they're understanding that role of it.
And your role, when we have this guest, we'd like to participate in that is you were serving
as a prophet to them, not telling them what to do, but confirming God's will.
Interesting enough, even where you individually had a, I'd rather not.
Right.
But we more want them, we're God wants them.
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's what we start to realize is that, I mean, my preference would
be, hey, wait a minute, we'd love them to stay here and they're here and we're enjoying
them.
And God says, yeah, but I have a different grand plan for them.
And you, when you receive, they said, okay, I'm willing to help them walk into it.
I'll help them walk into it.
Want to hear a fun, I don't want to steal their thunder there, but there's so many stories
they can tell, but this is a fun one.
I think I shared before one of the things God spoke to me is we were praying ahead of
their move and processing the things that, that God had in store.
One of the things he highlighted to me is I'm actually moving them there ahead of a revival
that will come at University of Oregon.
And I want them in place relationships ready so that they can disciple and be ready for
what's to come.
And I felt that very strongly and had shared that with them before they left and talking
to Olivia Caleb last night, it was so cool because she affirmed, she is actually spoken
to two people in different ministries, one FCA and one in another ministry in the area
that separately, they don't know each other separately, have had these visions of University
of Oregon having this big baptism and this big worship service in the middle of their
stadium.
And both of them separately said to her, we're in a very unique moment here right now.
We don't know exactly what it is that God is doing, but we see this revival coming.
And I think we're right on the edge of it, which goes directly with what I had felt like
God said before they went that he was putting them in place before that happens.
And so she's hearing it from multiple avenues and they're seeing, they're seeing some crazy
movement of God already there.
And I know so many people like think Oregon, oh my goodness, so many things, the bed of
liberalism and everything else, let me just tell you, right in the middle and in of us
where God works, he is at work, he is at work, it's cool to see.
So we're talking about the very thing of how do we help each other discern God's will.
And last time we talked about, we are part of the royal priesthood, all of us.
We are to minister to God, we are to be in his place, let him enjoy us, we enjoy him,
experience, proclaim the life of God, which is what you're saying they're doing.
And then I will have you help others, you know, get in that same place.
So the question, you know, today, and by the way, as we look at this podcast series that
we're doing, it's broken into a couple of different lessons.
The first one, which is what we've been dealing with is, what does it mean to be able
to receive from God?
What he has to say that we participate in being a foreteller and a forefeller, true
teller, true teller.
And then how does that work, which means we have to learn to be with him in his place
and keep understanding that's where it all emanates from.
And it's a privilege, you know, that we have.
The second lesson we'll get into will be, we'll let you know when we get there, which
won't be too much longer, they'll be exactly then what do we serve each other in that role?
And then third is how do we stay in that role?
That it's not a, it's not either a permanent gift or it's something that, well, once we
have it, we have it.
He said, no, you've got to learn to stay there and serve each other.
So this is where we've learned, okay, we're called to be a royal priest.
And he said that as a priest and he gives us all this description of, here's what it
means.
So first of all, is where to bring God's work, okay, so go to John 17, 15 to 19.
Sure.
It says, I do not pray that you should take them out of the world, but that you should
keep them from the evil one.
They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world, sanctify them by your truth.
Your word is truth.
As you sent me into the world, I also sent them into the world.
And for their sakes, I sanctify myself that they might also be sanctified by the truth.
Okay.
So he makes a statement.
I haven't removed them from the world, which by the way, that would be our preference.
Right.
Right.
It is, you know, take me out of this awful stuff and just create a bubble around me.
So I never experience, you know, the trouble of the world.
He says, actually, I'm not taking you out of it.
I'm sending you into it.
You're going to march in there.
Now as my priest, because you'll be living in my kingdom, so you'll be in both places.
You'll be in an awful troubled world and you're going to experience that trouble and
others will be too.
But in my kingdom, you'll be serving as a priest to those that are in this troubled world.
And he said, the first one is to sanctify them.
Remember, we read that last time in the definition of a priest is they bring sanctification.
Right.
Okay, he said, you bring sanctification that has them receive and step into my word, which
is spirit in life.
And by the way, which is Christ said, that's me and truth.
Okay.
So if I'm going to help somebody be sanctified by the word, what am I bringing to them?
The word.
The word.
Yeah.
I'm bringing the word, which means I have to hear what are you saying.
And then I have to help speak that to others with them to confirm and they hear it too.
And he said, if you do, that will sanctify them because it's an indicator.
If you're living in the kingdom, he said, see your righteous because I have given you
my righteousness.
Well, how does that work?
You surrender your will, you deny self, you take up the cross, follow me in the kingdom
and you're seeking my will, not yours.
And I will speak to you, which will be my word, which will keep you sanctified.
Right.
So it's, and by the way, the word there means set apart, able to live out my will.
So it's not you saying I better get better.
It's no, you're just with me receiving my word.
Okay.
So there's the indicator is that if I'm going to be sanctified and living in the kingdom,
the one thing that will be true is I will be hearing his word.
And I'll then learn how to receive it and live it out so that if I'm bringing you to
that place and I'm going to assist you in being sanctified, what do I have to help you
do here?
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And I'm going to go through these things and that's going to be poets and meditate there.
But that's going to be something that has a great effect of being sanctified.
And this will be your words tree.
risonard.
Say it.
Mm-hmm.
And they really understood that.
It's like, well, then if that's true and God's speaking, and I'm to hear it, when you
asked me that question, I oughted be able to answer them.
And if I am, that demonstrates, I'm sanctify ed and live it in the kingdom of God.
It's Rayma on on application of written word that will never contradict written word. It won't contradict it because that's the source of truth
We start there, you know, so when I help somebody to learn to hear God's voice is like, okay, let's go to these verses
Right them out and I don't want you going to a commentary
I don't want you going to a study just what does this say to you right you'll start to receive that that word is
starts to apply to you and it does not going to contradict it and when we wonder what about this God always says well
I've already said something about that so let's go there first and then I will give you Rayma as to how it applies to you
personally and we start to learn that and then my role is to bring the word okay the next one
Exodus 30
7 and 8 sure says
Aaron shall burn on it a sweet on it sweet incense every morning when he tends the lamps he shall burn incense on it and when Aaron lights the lamps at
Twilight he shall burn incense on it our perpetual incense before the Lord throughout your generations
Yep, so that we learn that incense is a
Representative of the prayers of the Saints coming coming into God's presence
Okay, and he said yours to perpetually burn the incense
So that why well perpetually help people learn that they come to me and dialogue with me and we've talked about see
This is how it all builds on each other is why well. I've given the privilege to march into the throne room
only and
Talk to me with that authentic heart and your role is a priest to keep reminding them of that privilege and keep that incense
Float
Is those are the prayers of the Saints and it's not would you would you would you it's that no come to me and be with me and and with your where are you at with this issue
Talk to me and then listen to what I have to show you
And let that constantly be a way of life. Yeah, we're not careful
We can drift into other things. I think about I've got a text from a young a young Janzier actually just yesterday
Who was spiraling over something that's going on?
You'll definitely has this desire in her heart and things aren't going as planned
And she texted and she's like, you know, do you have I would just love a suggestion for a podcast or a book or something
You can send me to that will help me hear God more clearly on this because I'm just not I'm only hearing my own emotions
And I'm like, okay, let's check that right now and I don't want you going to a podcast or
Somebody else is anything if you want to hear from God clearly you need to hear from God purely
Let's go back to his word and let's start there
But it's so easy I think for us to get in the mode of even and out of a good place
Bless her heart. She wanted to hear from him and couldn't get out of her own way enough
And so she immediately thought well, I need somebody else's what somebody else is hearing and that's gonna that's gonna pull me back
And I'm like, no, no, you're short-changing the most beautiful avenue you have to hear with clarity, right?
You know, so let's not start with secondary sources or sloppy seconds. Let's start with the pure word, right?
Yeah, yep
So we're to bring the word get him in the hearing God's voice where to help them
Stay in that place of dialoguing with God and receiving his answers by and what we call prayer
And prayer isn't you know, he's out there. I hope you do something
It's rather I get the privilege of dialoguing with you to hear what you have to say what your thing isn't be in that constant place
He said then your role is to bring offerings and so in the Old Testament there were and this is out of Leviticus
But there were five offerings first the burnt offering and that was a
Demonstration that as Christ surrendered his will to God so are we to surrender our will to God
So we go through a place of surrender the second one is a meal offering and
That was a offering of celebration as hey, I recognize the provision the life the bounty the grand life is coming from him
And I willingly received that and I don't accept mediocrity. So that was it was a grand experience the meal offering
The third one is a peace offering shalom is I want you to stay in that place of favor by walking with me
And you'll receive the word shalom is more than just absent of conflict
It's favor is God's extreme favor and and bounty and I stay there
The fourth one is the sin offering and then interesting now different from the burnt offering
It was recognize
That when you offer the sin offering
That you are cleansed and as here it is your claim you don't need to stay not cleansed
Or go do something to get cleansed that is the way to get cleansed is to offer it
Which means I surrender my will and when I step into his righteousness
He said there is no judgment and stay keep remembering that your cleanse right now
And you don't need to go do anything
Other than recognize it and then the last one is a trespass offering which is really
A reminder that keeps circling back to the burnt offering which is surrender
Stay in surrender stay in surrender. So the offering is really common surrender your will to God and trust
The beauty of that so if if I'm a
Priest and I'm to offer on your behalf what am I encourage you to do surrender your will
Yeah, absolutely is and then see us and what we do and this is how we do it
It lended. I do this my partner and I Jake do this
We're talking and you can tell when you kind of have a desire for something to happen
And the comment comes back are you neutral
What you're not
And it's like a wait a minute before you go any further as a priest
I'm going to help you remember wait a minute to receive all that God wants for you
You have to go to neutrality and surrender your will
So I'm going to help you get back to the sacrifice of yourself will
And surrender to that recognizing you're going to step into the grand life the the peace the shalom the sanctification
All the beauty of that so my role is to help you
Remember
That in order to enter into his place with the kingdom in the throne room
It does require sacrifice what's the sacrifice it's you
It's your heart. I love even as you bring that up
I'm reminded of Isaiah 61 1 to 4 and in verse 3
He talks about that he came to give beauty for ashes and I always think about sacrifice when I when I hear that part
Beauty for ashes because when something is on the altar and it is burned up
It is consumed by God there are ashes left right and when we surrender our will
We put it on the altar there are ashes left and he says when you do that that very act
I will bring beauty from so that surrendering of his will of our will is what brings beauty from ashes as well
Yeah, yeah
And so he says you you bring the offering then he said as you bring offering
I want you to join and bring people to the feast
And so there were seven of them
So the first one is Passover and Passover was I understand that I am delivered by the life and the blood and the body of Christ
And if I do I will be delivered and step into the supernatural
So I'm going to help you help you experience that the second one is the feast of unleavened bread
And basically that's to live the life of the kingdom you just mentioned at righteousness peace and joy
Go and go step into the life of righteousness peace and joy
And come to the feast of unleavened bread the third one is the feast of first fruits
And we recognize that all provision is from him
Join him by honoring him with my trust by tithing
My first fruit is my best. I tie that all my time my talent my money. I tie that back to him
And say I understand that you are the provider of all things and I'm going to give you back my first fruit
So that I can reserve your first fruits
And then the next one is Pentecost feast of weeks
And we know what happened what happened to Pentecost the spirit fell
Yeah, the whole the Holy Spirit
He said so the the week the feast of weeks Pentecost is
Keep remembering that your life comes through the Holy Spirit's life in you and keep remembering that so that you don't
Drift drift away from that
The fifth one is a feast of trumpets. This is the only feast that isn't but done yet
That's God bringing judgment upon the earth which he ultimately will now
He does you know in short term boat burst but ultimately he will and will experience that the day of atonement
That's that remember I finished it
And you have the privilege of always being coming in the throne room because you are a tone for I already bought you back
So don't mess out on that and then the last one is the feast of tabernacles
Which is you celebrate that God's kingdom is operating on earth and I get the privilege of joining him in that kingdom
Which is what where I can deliver all your answers all your resolution all your things I can get you out of trouble
I can I can help you live this life because of that so he said
I want you to bring people through the fras of are you surrendered to God
And then are you joining him in the privileges of that which is what the feast is all about right?
Is are you experiencing that so it's not just what was me. Yeah, I'm
I yeah, I'm surrendered if you're surrendered that means you're walking with him
And if you're walking with him you will experience these feasts absolutely
Yeah, so it's really really kind of cool and then he says okay, this is what you do go to Psalm 103
Love this passage bless the Lord oh my soul and all that is within me bless his holy name
Bless the Lord oh my soul and forget not all his benefits who forgives all your iniquities who heals all your diseases
Who redeems your life from destruction who crowns you with loving kindness and tender mercies
Who satisfies your mouth with good things so that your youth is renewed like the Eagles
Yeah, so if I'm helping you with the sacrifice with the word with the prayers with the feast
I'm helping you remember forget not what all his benefits. Yeah, it's a privilege
There's a benefit to you live in this way
Mm-hmm
And you bless the Lord because you make the Lord happy
Because he can deliver to you these benefits
And my role as a priest and as a prophet is let me help you remember don't forget that
Number one number two are you experiencing it and you know you are you aren't
If you are I'm going to help you stay there if you're not I'm going to help you move into that
And that's my role as a priest which is why I have to serve as a prophet to
Provide to you these
Abilities to come to that place and enjoy you know, so as you look at the
You know just the magnificence of by that all is that if I first of all if I'm blessing the Lord and forgetting not as benefits
What does that means happening to me that I'm experiencing his benefits? Yeah, yeah, so I can't say yeah
You'll get it, but I don't
It's I'm experiencing it. I'm going to do everything I can
To invite you to that same place so that you can experience it and by the way, I know something if you do
Which you will if you come you see how cool this is it's not like well if you come maybe you will maybe you won't
You're not lucky. Yeah, too bad. It's no if you come you will experience these benefits right
If you're experiencing those better go ahead as you say
I also love that it starts with bless the Lord on my soul and all those in me bless the Lord and forget not all
But if it's that word for blesses Barack and that's to kneel or adore
Which is a posture of surrender? So even in this verse it's saying, you know, this starts with surrender
I'm surrendering my soul everything in me to you because you are holy
You are this, you know, and and I will declare I will experience and declare your benefits, you know
It's a beautiful thing
And if I know that and I know you will experience it I already also know then you become a priest
But you will become a prophet because you will know that you're supposed to invite others to that same place
And it goes on and on and on and on which is why God said this is the kingdom of God
So father, we thank you that you lay it all out for us
Even these interesting passages from Leviticus, which we typically don't read you say that has a meaning and it has fulfillment
In what we are too intended to do as a priest before you and so we just pray that we'll be faithful to that
We'll have a heart to receive it ourselves to let others help us move into that place
And then we will help others as well and we praise you and thank you and Christ name amen
Amen. Well, thanks so much for sharing rich and thank you for joining us listeners
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