Was Sam Antonacci's slide dirty? (Hour 3)

0:00Aziz Gheon. That's why he's such baseball. Waxox pre- and post-analyst for Chicago Sports Network. The future is better. Why? Because I see guys on the field, very young, very hungry, playing the game the right way, they're for real. And I'm faking it. 2005 World Series winning manager of the Waxox. Time run at second two out, Pa Barrow. Over the head of James, your rebate's hard to squeeze. Oh! And the Waxox won the World Series. No hold bar baseball opinions. It's all, it's all a little winky. Yeah. I'm gonna touch your baseball, it'll be made for real man's. Now I'm gonna say they play like ladies will let it there's tough. You see those lady playing nowadays, it's unbelievable. But now, Major League Baseball is a bunch of barbies playing baseball. Aziz Gheon with Haim Payne. On 104-3, the score. Welcome back, it's Haim Payne, Chicago Sports Radio 104-3, the score. Beautiful Thursday morning in the city. And now to go to the plumbers 911 hotline, plumbing emergency.

1:00Call 183-3-3-plum 911. Local 130 plumbers get the job done right the first time. Aziz Gheon is the name you recognize and you see him all the time. On the Chicago Sports Network, you heard him last night commenting on the Sam Antonacci slide into Brandon Law. And he dared to extend an elbow. And you heard what Aziz thought of that. Aziz, good morning. Thanks for joining us this morning. That was something last night. Good morning guys. Yeah, first thing is the loss. You know what I mean? That's the, you know, the guardian loss, Houston Astros loss, and we could have making happen. I think right now, it's trouble. Offensively, we struggle very bad. You know, we can, you know, anything together. But the play has a second base. I really, I was a fan. I'm tired of seeing that. You know what I mean? You guys, you know what I mean? Just like a little ladies' gains and all the sudden, bench clear for no reason. You know, I mean, he just like, you know, I don't get it.

2:00You know, you've got to slide a second base. I don't talk, I know, I know for a fact why mainly baseball doing this. To say money. I'm sure nobody heard. But now, now back in the days, you got to find out how new took the hurt. You know, people play, even my grandkids can play second base right now because nobody can touch it. I was sure to, before you let them, if you know, hey, look who's running in first base, you're going to go near his heart, you know, it was most of the guy. For now, they just because a little, just like nothing. What it did, again, Boston, I don't know, I was a little upset about it. But that's, I don't think you should be playing the game, that type of game. I know what they're calling dirty. But last night, it was like, really, you know, I mean, this is happening in baseball now. And you have a warning from the own party, just in case something happens. You know, he's sort of everything very weird situation, very boring baseball games. When you know, see, I'm not going to talk about a ghost, fight the guy and break his legs.

3:02At least you got to broke a double play. You have to why this just is a big important run. And until now, she just barely touched your kid. Well, he is that kind of a intense player. And I think there is a difference as you alluded to, Ozzy. What happened with Wilson Contreras and Boston and what happened last night with Brandon Law? Last night was a matter of just, maybe Antonagi trying to just be competitive. That's his game. He is somebody that plays at that intensity level all of the time. I wonder though, now a day later, does that have any effect on, this is a team that looks tired lately. They haven't played great lately. Can that have any carry over effect in terms of, all right guys, it's time to, it's time to get intense for the stretch run because that would maybe wake them up a little bit. Is that overstating it? I hope they do. I hope they do. You see this ball club last couple of like, one last, the only win three games in the last, last 13 or something like that.

4:04I think they've been lucky. They've been lucky that division is that good or they're not playing well enough with that division. But, you know, with the offense going that way, you know, it's going to be tough to win games also. And besides that, the starters only last two or three innings besides yesterday. They've been trying to fight innings, fighting in something. But I think they continue to play that. I don't think I'm not going to lose the division, but it's going to be harder, of way harder to get it done because, you know, right, they look tired. They might be, they've not played that many games. They might be, but they know the situation they want through it. And everybody should be tired by now, you know, everybody should, but, okay, all the sort we're not. We are, a lot of people say, oh, we got a young, young talents. Oh, yeah, well, young people don't give you tired around this time.

5:08They're young. Now they're young for some day, but then they're not young for all their thing. But then right now they're not feeling about good. That's, that's especially, you know, this go one run to runs. That's not a good enough to go and compete for the division. I think they will because they always bounce back after they played very bad the night before. And that's the expectation, but the nice game. Well, as we've seen, Sean Perk, he's been huge for this White Sox team this season. We've seen the struggles. Are you just chalking that up to that September fatigue for Berk? You know what, be honest with you, it's basically going so many different ways. You get little confused about the opinions. They say it's a mechanic. Don't help them a little bit. But listen, when you throw 97, 98 mile per hour earlier this season, all the so you throw 93, the slider never slide. The corner never caught the change you stay around the plate. That happened. I guess people were a couple days ago. Everything was around the plate.

6:09Everything, no matter what pitch you throw, it was around the plate. This is a little mechanic, but I think of course, I run, I run a here. Yes, I need a fatigue because I never been in this situation before. Yeah, a little fatigue because the intense of every inning is, is not easy. Whatever it is, when they say, you know, we got to see is a mechanic. Mechanic, it can work while you're not throwing strikes. Okay? He was throwing too many strikes. The boat's running the middle of the plate every situation. And I think, I hope it's just a fatigue. I hope it's not a mechanic problem. For every day now, they invest or we have any problem hitting all is a mechanic problem. Pitching is a mechanic problem. Making arrows on the field is a mechanic problem. It's not a mechanic problem. That's a human being being playing. They talk about that and looking what happened with Martin. Martin was first of all, he was a little fatigue.

7:09Then he's tipping his pitchers, then he's finger. He got a couple of days off because I hope because his fingers. It wasn't right and all the songs come back and last against pitching great. I rather play you say, you know what, yes, I'm fatigue. I'm tired. Not to throw me that. They say, I go to look at it to see if my mechanic's working or not. When you throw 93, 94, when you was 98, it's not a kind of problem. He's just a fatigue. Talk about it again here, Anhan Peyton, Chicago Sports Radio 104, 3, the score. Oz, you got to ask you this, though. I understand why McGill Vargas got the night off. But if we're going to sit here and compliment the white socks and playing at a level in intensity with that is not like it used to be, it's a throwback type of approach. Even you go back to your day, guys didn't take days off in September if they were in the midst of a pennant race. And McGill Vargas means as much of this lineup as anybody in it. I don't know that I love that idea of giving him a day off on a day where you needed a victory.

8:13What did you think of McGill Vargas getting a day off? terrible. Well, you know, they often got more bad than the guy started playing. He got three or bad and very important about two when he grabbed a double play. You know what I mean? Listen, when I say one stuff, it's like, because I play 162 games for a long time. I play 160 games. I think that was the reason I hit 220 just because I was tired. Maybe later in September, but I was in the lineup. We now pay the race situation. But then right now, all those guys you tired, suck it up. You got 50 more days. You got 50 more days to go home and relax all continued to play. If they are tired right now, when the playoff coming up, they'll be dead. Because right now, they play off for the white soul star, like a month ago, two months ago. That's every day is a playoff game. And then right now, those kids had to know exactly they are in a special place.

9:13They can be making big news. They are already. They are already, but they can make a big splash on baseball, mainly baseball. People be talking about white sucks team because they were what there was a couple of years ago. And last year, where they are right now, and right now, don't let that. Don't let them to take it away from you. Go out there and do whatever you have to do to make sure you go on play and play. I know what to say, play great. It's impossible. Every bad cow, every piece cow is one thing about it. You see them, they strike out another time, ten times once again. You know what I mean? Well, sticks about the same people all the time. It's a moony and, and Carson. They've struck out half of the time, the other place struck out. But everybody's trouble, man. Everybody, everybody. You know, this whole one wrong because a home run here and there. But I tend to, you know, see that many guys on base.

10:14Strike out, play with the net that way. It's strike out a lot based on both of that that good. They want to continue to do that. They have to step it up and help the pitching staff with the course of run. Last night, last night, last night, in six sample, where we have a pregame show with Gene Tommy. I could say all year long about Munakami and Montgomery. His head don't help him. He got it. Watch the ball. He helped no help. And people like shout out, I said, you don't know nothing about baseball. The soul gene told me say for one second, you got to see the ball. You got to hit the big goo with your head. Or the soul. You're like, wow. Yeah, I said, yes, I know. I said, I'm being this game long enough. I was one of the best hitting coach. You know, help me. He best hitting coach. It was worth reading. I said, you're not going to have chance. And all the soul. Gene told me say for one second, that's the problem we have. Something will be preached all year long. And Gene told me was a genius.

11:15And I was like, okay, obviously, why? But it was better here than me. He's a holo famer and people listen to those type of people. But with the guy, you know, a little bit about it. I say, hey, put two pictures where the heads right. Where the heads wrong. What did they with this hit? When he went head down, when he went into the ball, strike out. Home run. It's a big different man. And I think when you go around and around, try to figure out, try to speak, try to look at how hard the guy throw. Looking at the speed rate, the breaking ball, you know, it's all kind of stupid. It is. And then all looking at one thing is like, okay, look at you. You're not seeing the ball, bro. Look at that. Look at the video. You're not seeing the ball. You got to check. You got to see the ball the best you can and you will really help. And you know, I mean, that's why so right now they got to get better at bats for sure. And if they try, of course they try. They're not going to tell me they know try. Of course they try. Of course they want to be. They want to be good. Of course they wouldn't have a good taste.

12:16And people think, oh, you say that no, I was there all my career. I was through all my career heating. But I was there every day trying to figure out how I can help the skin to win games. And we cannot relate right now. Like, you know, he's the home wrong. I'm going to know he the home run or two of them. We're not going to win. I think we got a lot of ways to win besides hit the ball out of the ballpark. Ozzy, hey, can Smith gets his first big league start tonight after coming out and doing some good things out of the pen. What do you want to see from him? And those like first three innings as he gets a chance tonight. Well, you know, it's funny. I think this key can be a secret weapon in the future of the White Sucks in the bullpen. Think about you're not a starter. You are reliever and continue to do what you did, what you're doing. Size you get to Chicago. Don't go out right through a complete game. What you're not going to do it. Make sure whatever you, the time you go to spend on the mouth, give you best off like it is and don't walk in people.

13:17I think it's in the mind only. You got problem because he was walking too many guys. And then big league you walk a lot of guys. You're going to get paid. Just go out there like you would go to pitch at eight or the seven. Same way pitch the person. Obviously it's not the same because you got to be ready to boot pay me four. But I think right right now. You got to be mentally going to be. Yeah, you know what? You go to one inning. One inning shut out. Two inning shut out. And this is it. You go just think of it. Okay, I'm going to be a starter. And I know you know me. I want to be like a starter like I was in the mind only. I think that's not the way to look at it. As you before, but let's you go have to ask you this. So next week, obviously is right around the corner. The big series against the Guardians in Cleveland after the series with the Cardinals in St. Louis. So you look at that. The socks are two up with 17 to go. I know you were a big meeting guy. I just wonder how does Will Venable approach this with a young team

14:17that is entering this phase of September where it does feel like next week the season comes down to you that series and you win it and you're still going to be in front. If you lose it, you things could get us start getting away from you quickly. What's the right approach from a manager's perspective? Hey, listen, keep playing the way we play right now. No, no, because by the way, a lot of people talking about Cleveland. They can he's swept tonight and they can he can swept in in St. Louis. All the song Cleveland serious mean nothing. You know, I mean, nothing they had to worry about the game today. They had to worry about the siloies when they got to play there. Then when they need to clear and then you see what the scenario they have to listen. Just go play the same way. Don't try to much or less because all the songs you've got for pressure on yourself. They're not going to help you, especially you were to play act Cleveland. And I think I think what you are young, you have veteran. You know, it's a little easier, but when you're young and just like, Oh, my God, I got to turn 90 shut out. You can't. Oh, my God, I got to hit three wrong home run every time I said, you can't make sure you are the same way.

15:20I have I will manage the same way I manage all your long. I know about the change anything because we play. I guess the team we support to be just go there and perform the same way. Play the game right, play the game like it's a blast game or the season. And move forward because you pull out of the pressure, say, oh, my God, I'm going to go to Cleveland. We're going to be we're going to win three games there. Now it's like that's not the way you approach that because you're going to push something. You don't need to, you know, have to. I think that's the biggest thing you can. You can do that. Listen, I just said that I see a thing to somebody who was talking and put a good baseball man. He said every, listen, every majorly ball club. I'm not going to watch. They had to have a manager. I'm sorry. I'm a guy with a uniform on. To tell those guys how to play in those moments or how to how to handle you when you struggle. How to handle it when you're pitching bad because all the sun is one of the.

16:20Listen, all my respect to the coaches have a mainly baseball. All my respect, but when you go to approach a player and you're going to say, you know what, do these do that to this? I said, you know, thing I try try to talk to him mental. Why? But they know how to express somebody going to tell me like, hey, you got to do this. I said, you never been here before. That's what we have to be careful in mainly baseball because a bunch of kids never play in a big. They never went through it. And that's why we're missing in baseball for real. You know what I mean? It's not like nothing against the coaches, nothing against the kids. Try to coach a hope they being coach for under years of managing. But right now we need they need somebody somebody on the staff. When they go through that to help those guys how to come out with all. She and the stats and see videos and at them these games mental and they need somebody mainly baseball somebody. They need somebody with experience to be there with those kids with the most needed. Great stuff. I really appreciate it. We'll see you later. All right, guys.

17:20Thank you. All right, brother. Oz again from the Chicago Sports Network telling it like it is. That's what I love about him. Yeah. Socks back at it tonight against the pirates at the rate trying to avoid a sweep. We're going to get to more football here in a moment. We got Bruce coming up at nine o'clock. We'll get back to the Cubs and what they went through last night in Milwaukee and what's ahead for them this weekend at back home. We're going to switch to football. Clay Harbor is going to be in studio talking about the Bears and week one in the NFL. And the score is kicking off football season with circus sports and Miller light. Rahimi and Grote broadcasting live from Cody's public cost and lake view. Tend to two today. Speak all in homes with Lawrence homes in Carmen Vitale will be live from Tim Thio tools in street or ville from two to six. Register on site at each location for your chance to win a hundred dollar gift card at sports world. I'll brought to you by circus sports sports betting the way it should be with no bet fees. And by Miller light, the official beer of the Chicago Bears.

18:20Clay Harbor in studio next. It's hot paint Chicago sports radio 104 through the score. What times I actually saw a clock over time for play harbor football analyst for Chicago sports network. Former NFL player not a quarterback. I'm a tight end, but I've watched a lot of tape. I've been in meeting rooms with Tom Brady. Been in meeting rooms with Drew breeze. I've been in meeting rooms with Michael Vick. Quarterbacks know what they can do and what they can't do. And I know what a quarterback can and can't do and when you're supposed to expect them to be able to be successful. Play harbor with hot paint on 104 three the score. Welcome back. It's on patent Chicago sports radio 104 three the score. Time now to go out to the plumbers 911 hotline plumbing emergency call one eight three three plum 911 local 130 plumbers. Get the job done right the first time. Join now by my colleague at the Chicago sports network. Thank you for watching on the Chicago sports network. Simon Casch play harbor from the big pro football show and also pro football weekly. Good morning. Clay. How's it going?

19:21I'm great. Man, it's game week. We got some football in yesterday. I know JP stayed up and watched it. Got some hits going. You know, Drake may didn't have the best day, but hey, it was football. And now we got to talk about the bear. Let's start there because we have spent all off season sifting through list after list after list. And all of the quarterback lists had Drake may ahead of Caleb Williams. Drake may the same guy that through three fourth quarter interceptions last night. Drake may the same guy that I think fizzled in the postseason last year. Do you rank great Drake may ahead of Caleb Williams after last night? And or is that a cautionary tale to no matter how far you think you have come as a young quarterback? Those nights are still possible. You know what, David? I always say this. It matters what you do. It does. It matters what you do, but you know what matters more? When you do it, when you do it matters more. I want a quarterback that when the chips are down, doesn't go three interceptions,

20:26have a 36 pass rating and 11 rushing yards in the fourth quarter. You got to go and win a football game. The best quarterbacks, the best players when the when the pressure is on play the best. So for me, just going back in my career, when I'm in that huddle, I want to be able to look over the guy that's throwing an Aaron passes all night hasn't been on time. Nothing's really worked and he says, Hey, guess what? We go down. We put together a couple drives. We're going to win and that's what Caleb Williams does. So for me, that's the type of quarterback I want. I think Drake may be great. He'll be fine. He did have a good first half. He could be the champion of that. But for me, I want Caleb Williams. The guy that you know had seven fourth quarter comebacks and under two minutes last year, when you look across from him in the huddle, you know that you have a really good chance of winning this game and that's when he's going to play the best. Well, Clay, I mean, knowing that you I was watching the game last night, excited that football was back, but I was also doing my pushups because I knew you were coming on the show today.

21:26Just to make sure that my muscles were right before you came up to show. But as you were as you were watching that game, doesn't it just put in perspective of teams coming into the season, excited like everybody is that football is back and for the Seahawks, I mean, they were excited come back, raise their banner, you know, show off the rings, all that stuff, but also Sam Darnel goes out and it just shows you how critical it is to be able to like get out of week one without any major injuries. Oh, it's huge. It's so finicky and it's something you can't plan for you can have the hardest training camp. You can have a soft training camp and injuries. They're really unbiased and it just goes back to me, you know, the whole year we're talking about, you know, Romeo dobs, AJ Brown, you plug him into the Patriots. It takes me back to when I was with the Eagles and I hope you don't remember this JP. I know David does. He gives me crap for it sometimes, but so we we have Michael Vicks,

22:26our quarterback to Sean Jackson's our running back with Sean McCoy. We signed Namdi Asama, we get Dominique Rogers Camarri, Jason Bab and Trent Cole. We signed Vince Young, he says this thing called he's Eagles. Uh oh, dream team for the Eagles and you can't just plug players in and just assume sometimes that you're going to be a championship team and it all matters how you gel, how you play together, how everything works. I think that's the beautiful thing about the NFL. You know there's going to be some teams that go worse at first that nobody really thinks have an opportunity to play to be a championship caliber team that put to get come together, become a really good team, work well together and their team that makes a playoff. So it's just a lesson in a lot of things. I think that you can't just plug a certain amount of players together. Oh, we made the soup bowl last year. Now we got this pro bowl receiver. That means we're going to win it. And then it shows you that these injuries are unbiased. You're your quarterback that won the Super Bowl for you. First play of the game guy works hard, go get through all off season. You really can't plan for some things in the league.

23:31Join by Clay Harbor from the Chicago's Force Network here on Peyton and Haugh on Peyton Chicago Sports Radio 1043. The score this morning. Clay, you played nine years in the NFL and I think that when you look back on season openers, is there was there a time where you didn't feel that early season first first game anxiety. And how do you think that it becomes easier to manage? Will we see any of that? Did you notice any of that last night and will we see any of it on Sunday? Well, I mean, I firstly, there's a couple different things to play here. I have played at Lumen Stadium in Seattle. And first off, going there to play, I played a playoff game there with the Detroit Lions, Matt Stafford was our quarterback. And you couldn't hear yourself think. Now you couldn't hear yourself. You couldn't talk. It was, it's a different place and that does matter. They do have some of the best home field advantage in sports. And then as far as the first game of the season's concern, yeah, you always have it. I think it's good to bear as starters.

24:36David, that's why you always hear me preaching. I think that you need to play preseason games. The speed, it does step up. JP can tell you it steps up from preseason to regular season. You're playing all the starters sometimes in preseason. You won't go against the best player. And then maybe this guy's playing 10 snaps. He's just trying to shake off some rust. So there is a level of speed that increases from when you go to the regular season. When you go to the playoffs, it's a little bit different too. Everything's a little bit more, it's more pressure filled. And then it's like anything, but you get into the routine. You get into this rhythm of playing these games and it doesn't really get you as much. But the first season after the first game, after going that long without playing, a lot of it is who handles emotions better? Who handles the highs and the lows better? I think the bear is in a perfect position to do that just because who they got leading them. Ben Johnson isn't a guy that's going to get flustered. Caleb Williams isn't a guy that's going to let himself get flustered.

25:38They got a lot of veteran players from the offensive line to the receiving core to the defensive part of the ball side of the ball. So I think when you have a veteran team that does kind of alleviate some of those first game nerves. Clay, we were talking earlier in the pick six just about how successful season looks like for Caleb Williams, completion percentage, yardage, and also touchdown to interception ratio. If you had to kind of see what is this successful season, your eyes numbers wise for Caleb? As we can see, I mean, you look at Drake May. Guy had a great completion percentage yesterday. He had a 69% completion percentage. I want Caleb to improve. I think that does matter to show that he is getting the ball out on time. He is working on that footwork. The accuracy issues that he has. He can win these games in the first three quarters instead of waiting to the fourth quarter to be the best offense in the NFL.

26:38So that matters, but what matters more than me is explosives is down in distance. The bear is being able to run the football, the play action, the chunk plays. Being able to move the football holistically as an offense to me is more indicative of how the quarterback is playing than just pulling these numbers and saying he's not this, he's not that winning games when the chips are down, when it's the fourth quarter. And you have an opportunity to close out the game. If you had a 50% completion percentage all game, you come back and you win in the fourth quarter. That matters most. But if I had to put a number on it, I would love to see the guy around 63, 64% coming up from 58. Obviously 70% is what Ben Johnson says is always the goal standard for quarterback, but even going back to my playing career. I look at you go to practices with Michael, Vic, Michael, Vic was never guy that was going to have the highest completion percentage. Kevin Cobb is the backup, Nick Foles, they were going to complete more passes.

27:38But guess what, when the pads come on, Michael, Vic was going to do a lot of things that they couldn't do either. He was going to do a 360 spin out, make a big play at some point on third and long, get us a first down to keep a drive going. So Caleb Williams might not ever be the 70% completion percentage guy, but Caleb Williams is a guy that can get out of a sack, make a huge play for you, run for two first downs when you really need it. And for me, that's more important than just putting numbers on it is him learning how to utilize everything he's gotten his bag, because his bag is a heck of a lot deeper than some of his other quarterbacks that we see in the National Football League. And I know you've done the homework, I know you're aware of how limited the Panthers were in defending the tight end last year. So that may be something that influences your prediction, but let's make a prediction when you look ahead Sunday, what's going to happen, what do you think the score will be and how will this all unfold?

28:40I would say if you give me, I'd say 27 20 bears come up with a couple, they come up with a couple of turnovers here. I think Bryce Young is obviously taking a step and they do got a better team this year. Jay on Phillips is a guy that's a real pass rusher. He's a pro, he usually plays on the side of Darnell right. So that's a magic I like, could they go and say, hey, I want to put him in his braxton Jones, I think we have a better opportunity today to get some pressure on the quarterback. It's possible. Colson Loveland, I think they weren't very good against the tight end last year, but they did go out and get Devon Lloyd, who is one of the top coverage linebackers. This guy is a player. Your guys at PFF David, I know you research him every day, they had him as the third best coverage linebacker in the NFL, the guy runs a four six. He's a guy that can match up a little bit with the tight end, can he match up with Colson Loveland? No. So I still think the way they run their defense, it's a lot of single high safety stuff. It's 50%. Probably the highest in the league in the other 50s obviously split safety between quarters and between cover two, but that single high safety stuff.

29:44You can put a lot of stress on the seams with two tight ends. You keep them in their three four. They don't like being in base. Guess what Ben Johnson's got three tight ends. You can keep them in base. That's why draft Sam Roud. You come out three tight ends. He wants to stay nickel. I'm sorry. Good rinse. They're running the ball down your throat with Kyle Menungai and Deandre Swift. So you keep them in that three four where they have to run that three high zone defense. You can really threaten the seams with these three tight ends that can all run and block. Why do you see tight ends getting blocked, getting drafted in the second round and the third round with 20, 30, 40 catches because they can block and these teams have to stay in base. So the Panthers, one of the highest teams in nickel and dime in the entire NFL, they do not want to get in four three three four. If you get them there, you have an advantage. And I think that's one of the things we're going to see Ben Johnson major in. We're going to see these three tight ends. Keep them in that base defense that they do not want to play in and utilize the tight ends.

30:45Clay, great stuff. Appreciate your time. Look forward to seeing if your prediction comes true. Yes, sir. Appreciate it, guys. Clay Harbor from the Big Profitball show and the Chicago Sports Network, making his prediction 27, 20 low scoring game. I mean, I'll take it though. You would take it. I love listening to clay, though. He's right about that defense. They got opportunities to be able to take advantage. Well, before Sunday's game in Chicago, taking on Carolina tune in nine to noon, your local four dealers pregame show right here on 104 three this score, Mark Grote, Olin Krutz, Patrick Manley, they're back to get you set for the game. Then immediately after the game, Grote, Olin and Pat will have instant reaction on the Timbertech, Deck again, railing post game show presented by the Roman automotive group this week's post game show can be seen exclusively on YouTube and on Twitch. That is Sunday between nine and noon, your local four dealers pregame show right here, Grote, Olin and Pat Manley. All right, when we come back, we got Bruce at nine o'clock before we get there, I got a bone to pick with Craig console and I can't let it sit any longer.

31:52It's just there after last night after this series. We'll let it all out. Talk about next. It's on page of Cogsport, trade in 104 three this score. Welcome back to hot and patent on 104 three the score. When you send DJ up there, you can see how you wait with the history of the two hitters that you have there versus splits. I'm your free base deciding to pitch it for me. Are you rebeys right handed hitters or OPS and 370 off them? Welcome back. It's on page of Cogsport's radio 104 three this score. That was Craig console last night. Cogs lost eight to six. It was eight to one entering the ninth inning. Bear with me for a second, Jared. Just stop laughing. I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing. I've been waiting for this. I'm waiting for this. I already know. I know the vibe. They scored five runs. It was eight to six. Conforto doubled. He's standing on second base. PCA is standing in the on deck circle. Carson Kelly is do with the plate. Now I know I'm not going to stand here and say Carson Kelly hits right. He's great or even Abner, you're rebe the fine brewer reliever fireballer. He's open seven lifetime against you rebe and his Craig console pointed out their OPSing right handers are OPSing 326 against your rebe.

33:15Yes, I'm really at a low level. Your odds are slim, right? Yes. But Carson Kelly, when I say that name, what do you think of first? Because the most recent example that you remember, Carson Kelly was the fist pump the night before when he got a big double in the gap. Give him a chance. He's he's your guy. He's your catcher. He's your starting catcher. I know he's batting ninth, but he's still a veteran who has been in big moments before. Who hasn't the rookie with one major league hit? No disrespect to BJ Murray. He's got one major league hit and it was a squibber. One for nine. He's not one for 10 because he didn't stand a chance. What what are rookies with one major league hit OPSing against your rebe Craig. Tell me that Craig console. At that point and I respect Craig council. I really do.

34:15But I had enough that was like follow your gut at some point in time and you have to respect experience at some point in time. Don't you. I would, but that's clearly not what Craig likes to do and I think the game of baseball where where everything is trending. It's the numbers. D H. It's the numbers. You go by the numbers. They live and die by the numbers. But in some moments though guys that have been in that position. You have to give them opportunities to me. Showing a guy that made had a big hit the night before show confidence in him. Give him that opportunity. A numbers might not match up and they should maybe look different. Give him the opportunities of veteran. He's been there before. It is hard to give a rookie that opportunity and that big of a moment when the night starting off with Kevin Gosman was just was awful. It started out. It looks like it was going to be awful. They I give them a lot of credit for fighting their tails off to get back to that moment.

35:17Yeah, they tease us. They tease us. Yeah, they did that just to keep Dustin up is to make sure that he was good. I'll get the dust in a second. Okay. But P. Cromstrom standing in the on deck circle representing the go ahead run and you just know the way that his season has gone or you suspect or you just wanted to see it. If Kelly gets on base or maybe it may be murdering you some base. Whoever gets on base. PCA was going deep. You just know he was going to and then it was going to be nine day and then they have to have a lead. They probably would blow. But nonetheless, I really didn't like that decision. I didn't like the rationale. I don't like it when you're in the midst of a playoff hunt and in the midst of a pennant race and all those things in September, Craig Tember. You go with the rookie with one hit over a veteran who has come through for you in the past. Now on to Dustin real quick. I don't understand. How you are so excited about this possibility. These odds that are developing about the white socks and the cubs both missing the playoffs.

36:20You are somebody so superstitious with your watch in a bears game. If you're sitting in one spot and they score touchdown, you think you can't move for the rest of the game. Or the opposite if they're getting their brains be it and I'll switch floors. I'll sometimes even get in the car drive around. Listen to it on the radio. Yes. I will lead places. I will not leave places. I will. I wear the same shirt as long as they're winning again and again and again on Sundays or whenever the bears play. So, Jared, tell me this. That same guy is not afraid to talk about well. The cubs need to do this. If they missed a playoffs, it's 150 to 1 now. I think I'm going to get it now so I can win some big money. Why would you speak about it if you're that superstitious? He's frustrated. He's upset. This man you watched the last three games, David. Yes. Yes. Yes. This man wears his heart on the sleeve. I can't get mad. I'm joining in on the party. I get you just want to make some money. I just locked it in when it comes to the mullah. That's all that matters. I just dollar bill, Joe.

37:22I mean, all right. Fine. You guys bet away. All you want. I just don't want to hear the next time. Well, the bears were leading until I moved to the basement. And then they gave up 10 points. And that's that's the reason they lost. No. You can't have it both ways. I did not know Dustin was like that. Oh, yeah. Could I suggest another potential pinch hitter last night for Craig County? Yeah. Yeah. I know he also bats right. But he's had him in the lineup the first two games against his former team. And he's delivered for him. How about Tyrone Taylor in that situation? If because the only thing the only thing that makes sense with you, Carson Kelly is that he had a bruised inner thigh. He took one. He took. He took one yesterday. And maybe he was a failure in his best. I know. I know. Okay. But how about Tyrone Taylor? Well, the how about Tyrone Taylor? Two things. Number one, Craig Council did not address or if Carson Kelly was injured, he didn't mention it. And Taylor would have been a fine option because he did bat fourth against a right hand of the night before the Miz.

38:23And he's hitting. He's hitting great since he came to the Cubs. I would have much preferred going down with a veteran. Then with due respect. A rookie batting from the left side that I just don't think you're going to come through and ask that's asking somebody familiar with that park as well. True. Very true. True. All right. So I think that I didn't understand that last night. I do feel better though. I do feel a little pet. Thank you. The smile is there. So I needed to get that out. I want to have Bruce thinks. Bruce has I think I'm sure thoughts on the Cubs last night. He was at the rate for the White Sox. We'll talk to Bruce divine next. It's on Peyton Chicago Sports Radio 104 through the score.