Vuelta a España 2026 - Stage 13

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1:02Welcome back to the Lenschen Rouge cycling podcast three cap of stage 13 of the wealth that was spaniard from Almanier, Kato Loha, 193 kilometers of 40 degree racing north east of Malaga. We are not really in the proper mountains because there's some decent climbs in the Amalaga, we're in the medium mountains, three and a half thousand meters of climbing today. We do have a 14 K5 percent or a cat one at the start. That's it starts in the first half an hour. That's where brake formation might be. Then just rolling climbs all day, but the cat too. And then there's a couple of rollers. And then in the middle of the stage, there's 30 Ks of what we can best describe as flat. Then there's the Puerto de Granada. 6.5 K6.2 percent, but quite regular. No ramparts in humanos regular big climb, big road rather. And that crest 35 Ks 38 Ks from the finish. So after that, it's then like ball slot downhill and then a slight kicker like to the line, but a flat sprint in the end. Very

2:03similar stage, the two to France stage four, the four stage that Mads Patterson won with to help with that. So the question was, it wasn't televised. What would happen in brake formation? I would love the tapes. I think this would have been a banger stage of action from start to finish this episode, brought you by Morton, a word on them in the heat and how good they are there in a second. What were your expectations before today or any previous news, Benji? Why expectations? I was looking at Visima, you know, because they are the team that last week on, I think stage 10 went for the wrong strategy on a similar stage. They opted for trying to control it from a peloton. They learned the hard way that that's not the choice to make. And well, it's a bit silly now to say it on hindsight, but the exact thing we expected yesterday, both of us, was Visima Lisa by going in the break with Wout and multiple teammates. And that's the exact scenario that we see happening. But it also means that lots of other riders will go in the break way too, because there's no real team controlling. So I was expecting a pretty fun break way formation phase.

3:08It was a really fun Patrick staring at the ticker for two hours, but the group just became bigger and bigger every single minute that I looked at the ticker. I was like, okay, group of three riders, group of seven, group of 12, group of 14, 27, 40. And in the end, 43 riders in the break way in multiple phases. And I think Wout was definitely a big part of that initial breakaway formation phase. And once a group of maybe 30 riders was up the road with a gap of still 25 seconds on the peloton, I would say 25 kilometers into the race. Well, it actually maybe figured that I figured over the top of the first club to take a wham point is my imagination based on the ticker, because at a certain point, he was ahead with Andreas Cron. They then got caught by the group behind at that point, Brennan and Armini were there as teammates for Wout for Nod, but then the group started expanding again. 43 people Patrick is the breakaway. We said already for night, Armini, I am Brennan, but who else was there outside of those three riders in this breakaway? Oh, it's huge. It's a third of the peloton. We've got, let's say climbers, Bizio has got there.

4:17Schgelmöze has gone across as a GC rider, Clem on Berta, Christian, Christian Rodriguez. Oh, yeah, he was in there. We've got Bill Boul with Palm, Mikael as a quick option. Remember, he was seconded in Monosk on that kicker there. We've got UNOX, of course, with Magnus Cron plus Lecnesson. I would say UNOX is the best other team here in terms of composition. They've got a fast guy, they've got a punchy guy in Cron, and they've got a truck in Lecnesson. That's what you need on a stage like this. On top of that, UNOX is the kind of team that when they go in breakways, I'm always 80% sure that they will make the right decisions in group dynamics. They'll be the team that's there with three riders on the sides. Now we need to make a figure that I'll figure out an attack from this breakway to make this breakway smaller so it increases our chances. There's a climb coming. We don't have a pure climber in the group. They're the kind of team that usually goes ahead then with a not-so-climbing guy to try and benefit from the situation. There were a few moments in today's race where I felt like I saw good vibes from UNOX in that

5:21sense, but even this breakway was ripped apart by a time break while the actual broadcast started right. I said, I'm watching the break of the green light. As soon as a break gets a green light, then it's like, well, I don't want to work. It's a group of 50. You're essentially in a peloton. You really want to take a pull. Normally, you would see control, and this is what happened. I can't recall when there was a... What stage was it? Who was it pulling? Pitcock? Pitcock. Yes. The stage that Pitcock was in the break and Q6-5 pulled full gas to present any fougas, which, Gellmose, that's what you'd expect. One problem. His team is in Zalent right now. There is no Alvarez. There is no Vartsec. I picked him up. Where was he? Alvarez would have won this stage. You look at how 40-degree heat, Spanish kid. He's versatile.

6:21I can do it all. Look at him in Zalent right now. On a serious note, Gellmose got no under pull. He's got no tug buddies. Normally, they would add an element of control, because of that lack of control. Also, FDJ, you're actually going to go for the win. They're not going to get pulled for Clonon Bird Tays. Top 10, I don't think. Not really. I kept changing my mind, but they were following Fisher Black as well, no teammates. He's got to follow the cruise crashes. We just... We don't get it, by the way. I forgot to mention this. Nulbeger is out. Crash early on in the stage, disappeared. He's out of the race. I don't know what the consequence for injuries are. I'm pretty sure the actual outcome happened when we saw... I don't know, when we... We perceived the DNF while the stage was not ongoing yet, is how I would classify it. Either way, he's out of the race. That's a massive loss for the

7:21Kaplan and the Pestel. The Pestel crash later. Did he do that? I'm not sure. Half of you, he's gone, by the way. Fine, Sylvakov. The Pestel finished on 3-29. That's means he's fine, because actually you had to do a pretty big effort to finish on 3-29. 3-29. He finished just behind the main G-segrant. That means he's like after the crash riding at a good level. I didn't clog the peloton finished at close by the way. In my head, they were like in Narnia. The gimmick is going too far. We're seeing, I don't know if it's if it's just a peloton adapting. I don't know if it's LRCP with the satellite. We started it. But the GC top 10 backdoring is getting out of control. It's a free-prol. 7-23. Sepkus was not the first one.

8:25Was it Albertal Contador in that Vuelta stage in 20? These riders are too good. These riders are eventually finishing fifth or are in the stage. That's the point. The gimmick is getting too far. No, I'm saying there's no honour in the peloton anymore. In the day, a team in seventh would protect their seventh place in the second week of a grand tour. Now in the Tour de France, the guy in fifth goes in the fucking break. I don't know, but he's letting go into fourth. There's no honour anymore. You know who's an honourable team? Bahrain's an honourable team. Actually, they didn't pull today. Yeah, Skjolmözen is getting a free ride. That's why the peloton finished that close. In the last year, EF actually did have to walk his movostar. I don't care, of course. Movostar, you want to let the gap go out. It's actually when you're the leader's team, you want a top 10 guy in the break because then you let the gap to four minutes and then

9:27another team will come and pull for you and you sit in the wheels. And on top of that, it means that MUS is not the direct focus of your competitors every single time anymore. They start thinking about, yeah, it is, this is come from 12th's plays. Just join me in third place. We got to take him out first and it's also such a psychological thing where it benefits and the big MUS, I think. But either way, Patrick, we had a breakaway forming from this breakaway before the broadcast started. 10 riders including Kevin Vermarker, Matthew Brennan, Leo Bizio, Clément Berte, Guiomarté, so two for Groupama, Krone Lecknesund for UNOX, Duo, Albania, Cristiano Rodriguez and Lutz Crops there as well. That gap towards the second breakaway where, to be honest, the gap was a minute 40. In the valley before the climb, did we see a certain team pick it up in that second group? Shooter and Kern Farmer were the ones pulling, but they weren't making much for NINRO in it. When it was up here, we'll barter. He was able to close it a little bit. But then the group was rolling pretty well for a, until they got close to the climb. But an hour

10:31before the climb, particularly, I would say, with 90k's to go around where coverage started, the group was with Brennan was working well. I mean, Brennan was rotating, not pushing, but for Junato, UNOX had got two in. So I would say, if you're all of these guys, yes, you have Brennan? Yes, it doesn't finish on a climb. But if you get over that climb, think of the end game, that 6k6% climb, even if you don't drop Brennan, which, by the way, is a possibility. Maybe Bizio drives it and you drop Brennan on that climb. But, well, if you're for Junato, if you get over that climb and you have 30k's of false light downhill, no one's going to want to work with Brennan. Other guys are going to attack. UNOX are going to, they have Legnison, right? So it's very obvious what UNOX want to do, you know, attack with Legnisoned, detected by Dolby behind. So I think that's why you, you saw like break cooperating really, really well. I think that's fair. I think that's fair, but it also is an added factor, the fact that Brennan's

11:33ahead and also Vizmalee Sabayk has Armerai and Woud behind because hypothetically in an alternative universe where Brennan looked fantastic in that 10-man group. He was one of the strongest, if not the strongest, rider and ad for 10 riders, it seemed to me. So if hypothetically, there's no Woud and Armerai behind, then the actual strategy for Brennan would be trying to split this 10-man group even more to try and rip the field open to try and make sure it's not a 10-man group going into the downhill and the flat portion. That's the go-to strategy if there's no Woud and Armerai behind. In this case, it was clear to me that he was trying to control the situation while Armerai was trying to bring Woud back. Well, that didn't happen in that value at all. The gap was staying at 140, it was on the 31-20. Armerai wasn't pulling on the flat. Trudering Keon Farmer do bring it back a little bit to 45 seconds, but it's really hard to know what will happen in these stages because it's hot. It's 40 degrees all day, 200k stage, four and a half hour stage, just about how long was

12:39it? Yeah, four hours, 34. If you're in the heat, it's a heat wave again, unfortunately, wave two this summer. I tried to take Toby out yesterday. I did take him out. We've got high temperatures. Toby doesn't want to go outside. I usually use him as my barometer or I think that's the right word. But if you're riding in the cool mine, I don't know if that's the... As in, if you're a dog, bearish from the heat, then he knows it's the warm. Is that what you're trying to say? To be clear, I'm not talking about it's actually that hot. I also want to make clear, site 20. I'm talking to flat, flat 20 degrees. Half the audience I just reported you for animal curals. I want to make that clear with doing flat 20 degrees. I didn't take him out because he didn't want to go out. That's why I use him as my barometer. I'm like, it's going to be hot. He doesn't want to go. He usually tells me and then you're like, all right, you can stay home and beg for food from Mrs. Rouge, which he does quite effectively. So anyway, I don't have to beg for food. As you can see from the pile of Morton products that I like, all behind me. Morton is perfect for hot

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14:45perception of cooling during exercise. So if you want to stock up for the rest of summer, use LRCP of well to 26. That's LRCP of well to 26 at Morton.com, the 15% off your eligible order. The code runs until 15 September. So it's the end of the world to probably leave one use per customer and excludes by car. All right, so interesting scenario. What were you thinking I think it changed before the climb, but we have a really interesting situation. Brandon ahead, two UNOX, good climbers, two versatile guys with Albinese and the Marco, Clanapunci, the Divisement Go representation fallacy. What should they do in this situation? Like I'm looking at this group and I'm looking at maybe it's not nice to say, but I'm looking at four riders that I really see as a chance to win this race. I don't consider Albinese to have a chance in this group to win the race. That's because Brennan's one of the better riders here to get with BZO and Krone and Leknisson, the UNOX duo. The rest in the group, I'm kind of like

15:48I think if they attack other people will either be stronger or control them. That's the view I have of this 10-man group. I mentioned it earlier, if Brennan's in this group and there's no wow to not immediately behind, then Brennan's strategy is attacking. If UNOX is in this group, their strategy is also rolling attacks to try and get ahead in the situation, for example. And we do see that. I don't know if it was, I think it might have been Leknisson who tried on the climb with... I think tree kilometers from the top, Leknisson tried to attack and at that same moment, Visma was the group that was the team that was trying to get the second group closer and closer. We're not talking about a minute 40 anymore. We're talking about gaps going under a minute with Armirai now pulling on the climb. And that's when we finally see actual moves in the second group. I think in the last two-care of the climb with maybe without it going first, then fish are black following and while jumping on the wheel and then while continuing getting countered by Zana, to be honest, they just all comes together by the time we hit the top. And the problem for group one is in theory, in theory, if Bizio, Belte, Marta and maybe

16:55Krona and Leknisson, if they rotate full gas on the climb into a pace line, maybe at the end of this 20 minutes, you have Brennan dropped around the pressure. But because of the group dynamic, it's 6%, you don't ride 100%. You maybe ride like, you do your turn 85%. And then he's drafting you on 6% at 25k an hour. And so Brennan is able to survive. And so it comes together, like Benji said at the top, it's split. There's guys on the limit. They roll into the descent now with a completely new group of, I think, 20, 25. Roughly. We got a Dolby, Leknisson, Bizio, Fisher, Blacks come across Vida. Is it Vida or Vida? Why is it German or not? Vida, Vida, Vida. That just rude. Amarose gone. Vidas, he actually classed rider. I don't care if he's a GC rider, he's class rider. No, Amarose gets to the bottom,

17:59attack start. Not from the others wanting to get away from Brennan and Vanart. Vanart and Brennan immediately start attacking this group of 25. I think they split it again. So now we get another resplit on the descent from this Vanart attack of the group I just said, Leknisson then misses it. And here Juno X did make a mistake. Juno X lose their numbers and then just have Dolby in front. No Leknisson. And this phase of Vizmalea's bike I really like because I would say that traditional Wautfanard Jumbel Visma, Vizmalea's bike breakway two or three years ago. The scenario that would happen here is that they would end up riding for Wautfanard to control it. Maybe Brennan being equal with Waut in the hierarchy so to say he changed that dynamic. But also in general, it's a much better strategy. If you have two Wauters and a group of let's say, Danish riders, hypothetically it was more at this point I'm pretty sure. To 20 like you say earlier, you want that to resplit to try and take a situation and hopefully keep your numbers. Do the opposite of Juno X where they lost their

19:02numbers. You want it to resplit and still have your numbers. And I think we saw tree rolling attacks like you say from Waut, then Brennan, then Waut again, that fruit attack is where it's at for me Patrick where Waut's fruit attack creates a situation where one or two riders start to respond. At this point, Brennan actually very eagerly, maybe two eagerly jumps on the second and third rider already. But then he clogs that he's doing it too early and then he lets the gab go. I think with Fisher Black, either in his wheel or ahead of him, I'm not completely sure for memory. And the people with him still make it across, making it an eight man group, including Waut and Brennan. So in this case, Brennan's eagerness probably helped him also getting into the split. Because now we've got eight riders at the front with Waut and Brennan being present. Dolby as well, Bizio as well. I'm trying to think through the group in my head because I'm losing the the riders at Volentem, Pade Pantra. Yeah. Well, Dolby, VPP, Albanese, Fisher Black,

20:07Verma, Yana, Weidar and... And Waut and Brennan, that's it, Bizio. So we do have two quick guys to this finish. Albanese and Fisher Black are legit quick for this finish. It's 700 meters, 6% and then levels off. It is a Albanese, but not as quick as Brennan and Vanart. Maybe we're going to talk about this now becomes a really interesting game theory discussion. We were talking about this as it was happening because it was an incredible final. It was going this way and that way, Vismo were attacking, getting blocked, deciding not to attack anymore, being passive, then covering attacks, then attacking again. On the other riders... Well, we spoke about this, Benji. You have to pick your poison. So if Vanart or Brennan go ahead with a group and you're not in it and it goes to the line, you can't win. So that's the worst outcome. Vanart or Brennan,

21:08or Vanart and Brennan, doesn't matter to the situation, that is the worst scenario. Going in a small group with Brennan, I would say given his sprint so far, that's the second worst outcome. Yes, but it depends on how many riders are with it because you don't know if it's if it's five riders. Then I'm like, okay, four V one versus two V eight when it comes to Vismalisa Bikes percentage because in a two versus six group, Vismalisa Bikes, me has an 80% win chance. Probably higher. I'm being conservative in this sense. So you... I think the general question just is, would you rather go to the finish against both Brennan and Vanart in a group of H riders, or be in an attack with a wild finnard or a Brennan and maybe be part of three or four riders and relay with that and try and get a scenario out of that. I'd rather go for option two. Because going solo is also no option. Because there's always one on the wheel.

22:10Going solo or with a group without the Vismas seemed implausible with them just snuff closing onto the wheel on a false flight. So that's why I was... I didn't understand. I know the other guy is 40 degrees, but they're all closing. I know. Does he have a Dolby? Yeah, maybe. They're closing every attack, but if you don't relay, then you're just going to get attacked again. So I was like, you have to... If I was the marker and fish a black, I want to get in a group of three with Vanart. I'm going to relay until three cases to go, get the gap out, because Brennan's going to block G2 and it's going to stop. And then I'm going to lean on Vanart and we'll see what can happen at the finish. But that didn't happen. So no one cooperated. We then have a stasis where they're rolling the group. By the way, it's Riccatello and Corte behind us on one minute. So then I think that helped Vizmer off their bit because they didn't have the pressure to keep the group going. So they just start rolling. Attacks begin again with like four to five cases to go. Maybe

23:11even longer. Visio attacks seven cases to go. Here we see Brennan start to maybe suffer more than before. He closes one attack. It stops. Gets countered again. Another guy lets the move. Go. Fischer Black does get up the road. He has to close and he's not snuff closing anymore. He's having to like long close. He's attacks and we're thinking, oh Vanart's sitting at the back. He's hiding at the back. He's saying, oh, is he going passive? Especially because there was one moment where I think you know, X-Wider went over the front and Wout was literally like on the brink of being on his wheel. But instead of closing the wheel, he's like maybe playing with some food, some shell. I'm not completely sure what's happening. But he's waiting to the back out of the group again. And Brennan has to come from 15 wheels back and we know he can win a sprint from 15 wheels back. But there's clearly an over reliance or a big reliance happening right now at this phase of the race in the final on Brennan way more than for large. And this segment to me made it clear. Yaukay, the goal is to make for large win the race. You know, that's the setting

24:17that I'm perceiving. Vanart was like recharging his battery for a little bit while the other spent their bullets and then he goes bang. He doesn't wait for the sprint and he attacks on a little highway kicker over a bridge. And there's only one man in his wheel. Valentine Perry Pantra, he keeps pulling with him in the wheel. Bishop like goes to close, but he can't close it. And then the gap opens up. It goes to 22nds Brennan blocks behind. And that group two was out of it. And the question is, is Valentine Perry Pantra going to sit on completely? He gives a couple of like cursory pulls. I don't really think they made a difference. And fortunately for Vanart, there wasn't really pressure from behind. So he didn't have to paste one one K kicker up. Still got to be honest though. I was like, how do you be, Van, Pantra? The tour of Flan than there's a winner. And you're probably wondering he's never won the tour of Flan than there's, but he wins the tour of Flan than every night in Patrick's. Hey, good. I was not, I was not. I was a BPP to wrap it.

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27:33The first stage of this year's WELTA. I had a paropantera. Brennan wins the sprint behind. For third, we'd are in fourth. Albiné is a fifth and Fisher Black for Mark Abisio. Dolby all in that group. Zana leads the group to the stocked behind there on 45 seconds. Which Gersh Gelmo is a Guillemata birthday. What would I say? Interesting about the points, Jersey. Brennan took the IS points. Brennan is actually closer to now in the green competition than yesterday. He's 65 points behind Vanart with some 50 points

28:35sprint stages to come. And... Yeah, Romero is now really out of it. Here I'm the gap is 18 points now between Butrag and Vanart, but I'm still very much leading leaning Butrag. I was doing that already, but it's also still a passive gap for Butrag. Also a better climber. While maybe achieves getting in the break way more if you look at the actual percentages throughout their career, but Butrag was good at that as well. And... Yeah, I'm leaning with Dragou there when it comes to the outcome. I think in general just a really fun stage. Final was hectic, etc. On one end, I wanted to see the the break way formation as well. Because I think that would have been interesting. On the other end, I think a full day of watching a break way stage like this can be tiresome. So much I would have survived. But I did very much enjoy today's race. And what has his victory, which I think he will be very happy about. Now, I don't think we learned anything for GC. So to say, Skillmolzur actually doesn't move up, right?

29:38He doesn't move up. He just takes time on coups, but they bring him back quite a lot. He only takes two minutes, 15 in the end, but two minutes, 15 is two minutes, 15. But that's most of the time he lost on the LARALTO yesterday. But still, if you go on the break and get a free, you get a free, we do have a big stage on Sierra de la Pandera tomorrow. So yeah, any else in the EF control that we do have a guy, you know, Moulberg is out. He was in the top 10 on GC. So Belte and Tejada are now into the, well, ninth and tenth on GC. Cristiano Rodriguez also took some time from the break. So that was handy for him. That was, yeah, that was the stage already. So tomorrow, we have a mountain stage, 155 kilometers from Hayen to Sierra de la Pandera. It is meeting mountain for the most part, really like no flat. Absolutely no flat. It's going to be very hard down the pedals, 4,000 meters of climbing. And then a cap to descent into the Muro de la Pandera, which is a proper wall.

30:42You can't really see it on the profile. It's a proper Muro. They do a short descent and then start Sierra de la Pandera, which is 12K, 7.5% fake news climb. The irregular, we've got 13% K's in there. It's a nasty old climb. It's a descent at the end. It's a classic world to mount top finish, cat one though. So it's not an HD climb. And if I'm a star, I just go for this. It's a medium mountains before no HD calls and they're 5% as I want an Enigma stage win. It's possible, but it's not necessary. It's high classified. It's necessary. Is it necessary if we did drink? They got the taste of victory. Yeah, they got the taste of victory, but I think the most important thing is that they can still taste the victory ones there. And is it good on auto? I might. If Movasar win the welter with mass, and I want to be on the fly on the wall for the party,

31:44yeah, be a great party. So you're saying you're picking moss? I think I should go for moss. He's the best climber to steep as hell mountains all finish and it's medium mountains that their guys can control before. But so many riders are going to try and be in the breakway. And the moss is not pullgatch or reader in the sense that the gap at the foot of the lost climb, exactly. If it's four minutes, the break once, I've legit been having to recalibrate my brain. Same like before color, I was like getting a bit tight. It's only four and a half minutes to omniscience. And I was like, back in the day, that was a plenty. I was like, all the touch can go here four and a half minutes for a mountain to finish. Anyone by two, do you want by three minutes? I was going to say, oh yeah, I'm going with Enrique Mass. Let's go Movasar. Okay. I'm going breakway. I am leaning between so many riders between the top

32:5010 and 25 in GC. But Trago is like an obvious pick because he's needing to be in every breakway between KOM. That's one thing. On the other hand, the other is now 14, 18 minutes. If I'm him, I want to be in the breakway. Oh yeah. But I'm not sure he can get into the breakway every day when he wants to. That's the one thing I'm not sure about because he sometimes has amazing days and then a week one he had a few of days. So big effort today on the flat. I'm going, wow. Really big ring 17 ring GC. I didn't know that. I don't, the cap on with Moobarger gone is going to be a little more careful. I think we're sending many riders in the breakway is my expectation. He's your has to be held back now, right? Well, you say that, but ideally, you also want someone up the road as like a even though it's not, it's not really a satellite ride. It's dangerous. It's not. I'm going, but Trago. I think that's a nice pick. I think Barati will be in the breakway

33:52because that guy's been cooking in this race. Yeah, I think my pick is but Trago. It's an obvious break, big, but I have to go with it. It looks good for San T. That's for sure. Barati was second on the mount off finish yesterday on the ZL won't be allowed in the break again. I don't know. He won't definitely won't be allowed in the break. Who is in the I'm going to go with? What do you mean with? I'm going to be showing us. I'm going with the PC kiss. No. You don't dare to pick Mario Aparicio. Christian Rodriguez. I like the pick. I see it. Because he would have won on the you know another steep 20-minute climb. But he would have won. There are many others steep 20-minute climbs in the world. Yeah, he would have won on this year if he was allowed to go for it and wasn't chased by his teammate.

34:53You all remember? Would your death or race you all remember Skaroni not letting Rodriguez take the stage right? Every night Patrick falls asleep and the first chapter of his dreams is Voluntam Pate Pantepant winning the 12 Llaners. The second chapter is he goes through he cycles through every single desert race out there. That's the next part. Then he dreams of the return of the tour of Qatar. That's the next step. I think that was rumored and then I haven't heard anything since from that. So that's a bit disappointing. Then he starts calibrating which potential stages could together form a desert ground tour. And then the last chapter is weirdly about was it Surin Khran Anderson that you dreamed of a few years ago? It was him or some Danish writer. Yeah. I think it's Surin Khran Anderson. Was it doing yoga or am I inventing that? No, I can't remember. You know, I don't didn't forget and you know what I have a poster on my wall full full size meter by meter poster off. You know, you did win on Jabal Akhtar. You have to be good to win there.

35:54I'm not having this discussion. Voluntam Pate Pantepantra won on Green Mountain, bro. He beat I'm not having this. He beat Brian Desert February Adam Yates. I clocked your guitar bottom by the banjo. I'm not okay with it. It's going to be a mega battle tomorrow between VP and Cristiano Rodriguez. And we will be there. I think Santi's going to be cooked from going for all the IS point. He came home. But a band who just went for the whole stage. He's a classic writer. He's not tied from this effort. Classic writers only work one day. VP is it is unimaginable how good he is on the flat. He is so smart, so efficient. He is because you know why? Because he grew up, he had to do all these races, these unsuitable races where if he made one mistake, if he let one inch off the wheel go, he's done because he can't hit the wind himself. And so he's just so good. Yeah. Okay. Cristiano Rodriguez tomorrow. Thanks for listening as always. We had crazy echelons in ZLM, but we'll get back to maybe on Sunday with

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