Voting Can't Break the Oligarchy. This Will.

0:00Acom see me September 18th 19th and Rosewan Illinois with Max Blumenthal also September 20th with Max Blumenthal and Chicago Illinois October 10th new live celebrity panel show with video in Los Angeles and Ventura Boulevard at the Starlight cabaret that's October 10th and then we'll see you in Cleveland Columbus, Dayton, Toledo and Cincinnati. That's in November and I'll be giving a speech September 12th in New York, New York at the Turning the Tide 9-11 events. Go to jimmydour.com for a link for tickets. They just cheated Dan Bilzerian. An obvious they took away votes from him. It was out and out. They just flip votes. They just took votes away from him and gave it to Randy. Fine. That happened. There are crazy explanations for that floating out there, but I don't buy them at all.

1:10And so to think that the same people who would a plant a bomb on January 6th meaning the establishment to deep say they would plant a bomb on January 6th, blame it on the left and then frame an autistic black kid for it when we know it was a cop that worked for the Capitol police who now works for the CIA. Nice promotion. After you plant the bomb for them. So those people who would do that. The people who would do a fake war that got half a million if not millions of people killed in Ukraine who would kill a million people in Iran who I mean in Iraq who would kill all who killed people all over the world that they wouldn't also. They don't really know. Uh, Reagan election and flip votes. What are you nuts? Of course they would the same people who would do a fake rush a gate thing that would gin up people and get them ready to call it.

2:10It's just of course they would and to think that they wouldn't is your your chump, you know, before 2020 Democrats used to be screaming that the top of their lungs about how bad. The electronic voting machines on how you could hack into them with a pencil and that people can flip votes and that's why they want electric voting electronic voting machines because they're easier to hack and that's why they don't want paper ballots because they're harder to it's harder to rig a system they'll still do it. Um, so if you think that we've at we've never had a president that wasn't okay by the deep state since John F. Kennedy just to keep that and Trump might have slipped in in 2016. So that might and and Brexit happened at the same time and those are two things they didn't see coming they miscalculated and so they've made sure that will never happen again that whoever gets to be president is a pre approved by the deep state. Dr. Trump obviously was because he was saying one thing on his campaign trail and he completely flipped and now he's doing exactly what Joe Biden, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and George Bush would have done doing the exact thing the exact same uh, uh, uh, presidency that you would have got with any of those guys.

3:19Donald Trump is handing you so they've got everybody's got their mind right everybody works for the oligarchy the Congress and the president are middle managers to billionaire class and even worse. Um, so, um, yeah, I forget what the question was now, but yeah, there's no way to vote our way out of it. It was tyranny. You can't vote your way out of it. Yeah, and I wanted to get into that with my, Marjorie she had something came up she was supposed to spend an hour with us. She can only spend 30 minutes, but I wanted to get into that talking about her third party. And so what's your idea and how are you going to keep big money influence out of your third party? Are you going to say no super PAC money? No, no, no, no billionaire money, no corporate money. How are you then going to compete? And that would be my question and I'd like to hear what she says about that because the only answer to this is that workers have to rise up unite. Uh, like I've said, if the real world workers didn't go to work for a week, the whole, the whole capitalism would collapse in the United States. Same thing with the port workers, same thing with the truck drivers. And if they all did it in conjunction, we could shut down, put a hurt on the oligarchy.

4:20And then we'd have to tie that protest to a demand. And that demand would be no corporate billionaire money in politics. You have public financing of elections and they people call that costs a lot. It costs us trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions more to not publicly finance elections. So it's much cheaper and it's much better for democracy to keep super PAC and then some joke says, well, the Supreme Court says money is speech. Yes, so when we have our protest, we have that other demand that not only you get money out of politics, but you pass a constitutional amendment that says no money in politics. So then the Supreme Court can't go against the goddamn constitution. They have to follow the constitution. So we, so they're, they're only, it's the only way to fix this. We're at the end stage empire. I just showed you 180 million people in America, the richest country in the world live paycheck to paycheck. Half the country over half the country can't afford a thousand dollar emergency. A hundred million people are carrying medical debt.

5:23And what I like to say is what do you call a system that takes the richest country in a world and renders 70% of its population living paycheck to paycheck and half of its population unable to afford a thousand dollar emergency and a hundred million of having medical debt. You call that a failed system. So we have to change the system and we can't and that system is not going to let you vote your way into completely changing the system. And the way we change the system is you workers have to rise up and that's the and if they don't which I'm not optimistic that that will happen believe Jimmy that will never happen yet you might be right. But I'm telling you that's the only thing that is going to do it. And right now it's it's I'm going to predict I'm not great in predictions. But they're not good goofing around with bricks right so bricks is a another power center the United States is the reserve currency of the world which is why we're allowed to run trillion dollar deficits to we we print two trillion dollars more a year than we take in taxes.

6:32And so we have now a forty trillion dollar debt which makes your dollar worth less and as soon as the dollar is not any longer the reserve so if all the golf states stop selling oil in dollars which looks like it might happen pretty soon and now we have bricks which is which is Brazil Russia India China South Africa and there's 11 other countries that want to sign on to bricks which means they're going to have their own currency. And so ours will no longer be the reserve currency of the world and so that will collapse our economy because then we won't be able to sprint all this money and then our money will become worthless people's retirements will be worthless and we will be in this is what's called end stage empire and late stage capitalism look around that's what we're in if you go to places like China they have futuristic cities 90% of the people in China on their own house. There's a whole generation of Americans who know they won't be able to afford a house and so we have the rich and poor we've we used to be this country of the strong middle class one person working can have their wife someone at home taking care of their kids send their kids to school and college and have a summer home that used to be that's all over now we're like a third world country what drive around look around you see what I'm saying and the government is working against you they keep passing ledges

7:55legislation that hurts workers that consensualizes power Donald Trump just passed a thing this morning as Marjorie Taylor Green just told us that doesn't allow meet packers to use local the farmers ranchers to use local meet packing to get and sell their meat locally there they want the big four meet packing companies control everything so if you control the food you control the power that's how you control a population and that's what this is all about and so the garden is all over the world government is actually working against you and there's no way to vote a government back into working for you so what you have to have is what I've just described you have to shut it down you have to you have to put a hurt you have to stop the economy put a hurt on the oligarchs you have to force a rever that's called a revolution and if you want a non violent revolution that's how you do it and of course the government will say all those protesters are terrorists and then they'll start shooting them possibly that's a very popular

8:55big possibility that's the only way to change it and so we need a we need a revolution America has more guns than than people so if the government start shooting us maybe they'll think twice because there's more guns than people in the United States and I'm sure that as soon as you get cops unwilling to do that and the military unwilling to shoot their own people that's how you change a government that's how you have a revolution that's how that's the only way that this is going to work and I'm all for Tucker Carlson Marjorie Taylor Green Joe Canton Tom Massey starting a third party I'm all for it I would like to talk to all of them more about how they plan to keep big money influence out of their party because that's what it has to happen and if they can do that then I think they might have a chance and the irony is Thomas Massey is I'm hopefully it's correct me if I'm wrong on this but he also believes that money is speech that's a certain brand of libertarianism and they don't think you should have to you could constrain people spending money on politics or political races and that ironically was the thing that got him kicked out of congress

10:07was that they spent the Zionists and the and the and the APEC and the Israel lobby and the Jewish donors they spent 30 40 million dollars and they got rid of them and so we all know that 95% of the races of congressional races in the United States whoever spends the most money wins that's not democracy that's all a garkey and so again the only way to fix this and I you tyranny won't let you vote it out I agree this is the only way that can happen can it happen it can is it likely it's not likely I know people are going to be pessimistic I'm pessimistic on the future of America there's no other way it's this is not getting better no it's not the United States the economy is not going to start working for people healthcare costs are not going to come down you are still going to go bankrupt when you want to get an education or if you want to or if you get sick that's still going to happen a hundred million Americans carry medical debt for FSA

11:09so there's no getting there's and there's nobody in congress or the presidency that's ever going to do anything about it and you know Marjorie Taylor green says well how are you going to pay for Medicare for all it would be lot cheaper than this system we have so people now pay 30 thousand dollars just just for a premium for a couple and in my age in California it's over 30 thousand dollars just for and that's before my out of pocket that's before my deductibles let's before the stuff they won't cover that I have to cover so I would be more than willing to pay ten thousand dollars more in taxes to save 30 thousand dollars in insurance premiums so that's how you pay for it and it's easy everybody saves more money and everybody's covered in nobody ever goes bankrupt it's not if this isn't a Rubik's cube but the the propaganda which is the mainstream media and the politicians are all bought by the insurance companies they're all bought by big pharma so they're gonna end up inundate you with propaganda to tell you we can't do it how are we going to pay for it

12:12nobody ever says that when they spend 200 billion dollars on a war with the rent how are you going to pay for it how are you going to pay for the war in Ukraine how are you going to pay for the war nobody ever asked those questions the money we've already spent in Iran could have wiped out everyone's medical debt in the United States we already could have did that they won't do that because the way the gears work is it doesn't work for the common man it doesn't work for the average worker the way the government the system works is for the handful of billionaires and millionaires and corporations that own it remember capital meaning oligarchs and billionaires sit above the government the government doesn't tell them what to do they tell the government what to do the reason why China has 90% home ownership nobody goes bankrupt when they get sick and their cities are 10 20 30 years ahead of ours their futuristic and beautiful is because the government sits above capital the government dictates to the businesses and the billionaires what happens not the other way around and the only way to fix that in the United States is if we all come together

13:14realize that your neighbor is not your enemy your neighbor is suffering under the same oligarchy in the same exact way you are and that that is a sia from the establishment and the and the media that they bought to keep us divided and if because if we come if we're divided and we fight each other they get to keep screwing us the thing that only thing they worry about is they don't care if you have health care they don't care if you can afford an education they don't care if you can afford a house they don't care if you have infrastructure or roads they don't care about any of that as Michael perinted taught us the only thing the oligarchs actually care about is what you think and that's why they do all the propaganda that's why they buy the media now they bought an independent media also which is obvious with the Charlie Kirk case what so the point is that if because why do they care what you think because if you think that your neighbor is not your your enemy but suffering the same way you are then you're more likely to join with your neighbor to oppose them that's the only thing they care about so you got to get the idea out of your head that your enemy is half the country

14:16or your enemy is your neighbor because they vote differently that they are not they are in the exact same situation you are and we got to come together and the only way to come together to have a real revolution is if workers shut just like the truckers did in Canada that's why they freaked out so hard because they were setting an example just like when the railroad workers were going to go on strike when Joe Biden was president they immediately shut that down they made it illegal the Democrats the we're party of the workers and unions they shut that down and made it illegal for them to go on strike why because that a would have worked they would they would have won that strike when three days and it would have set an example for the rest of the country that you actually have the power the workers actually have the power and if you come together you can get what you want and so they had to not let that example be set they had to crush it immediately and that's exactly what they did so that's my message that's the only way to get out of this I'm so I can't wait to talk to Thomas

15:20Massey and Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Green about their ideas for the third party and how they're going to keep it pure without getting the the corporate money and the billionaire money in infiltrating it and ruining it so but and I'm all for it so but I again the only way we can get out of this is if we all come together realize what we have common interests and then we can go back the whole everything they do is a sigh up to divide us the trans movement is a sigh up to divide us that didn't come from the ground level up after gaze got gay marriage they didn't know what to do how we going to keep people fighting culture wars they call them wedge issues for F.Sake they're called wedge issues and so those were invented and a lot of people go along with it mindlessly right but most people see through it now the majority of Americans see through that and they'd realize that they're dividing and conquering us so let's come together let's overthrow the system

16:26Hey you know here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member we give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show you can do it by going to jimmydork.com clicking on join premium it's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put to thumb back in the eye of the bastards thanks for everybody who was already a premium member and if you haven't you're missing out we give you lots of bonus content thanks for your support so you know how there's this um anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that the Jews run the world and they all meet in secret cabals and they run the banks and the media and they have control the governments and they control everything well that's just an anti-Semitic trope but guess what the this guy he's the head of the ADL uh he's going to tell you that the seven most powerful

17:28Jewish families meet on a monthly by weekly basis over zoom to map out how they're going to control the world let's let's let's I'm not kidding uh here we go now just last week leaders of the world seven largest Jewish communities convened in Australia seven largest Jewish communities not families that's what they cut that's that's what the mafia calls it we're the seven mafia communities we're not the families anymore huh right Greco okay it's the seven largest Jewish communities they meet by just last week leaders of the world seven largest Jewish communities convened in Australia as part of the 2025 J7 summit this is a summit organized by ADL as part of the J7 task force the combat anti-Semitism a convened what is J7 it's got a it's got a it's got to stay in for Jewish right the Jewish J7 is the seven communities seven Jewish right that's got to

18:35gotta be it let's watch now just last week leaders of the world seven largest Jewish communities convened in Australia as part of the 2025 J7 summit this is a summit organized by ADL as part of the J7 task force the combat anti-Semitism a convening of representative bodies of the largest Jewish communities on earth so the in the world wow okay so now we that that J7 is the largest Jewish communities task force against anti-Semitism the seven are United States ADL uh France CRIF United Kingdom Canada Germany Argentina Australia they met in Paris October 7 2020 on anti-Semitism anti-Semitism it isn't it interesting that they in each of those countries they have a strangle hold on their governments they enforce uh censorship and and jailing people who stand up against them isn't that something that's some kind of amazing wherever they go censorship follows

19:38and imprisonment for speaking out against genocide let's hear what this lady says seven as they said as we said is comprised of the seven largest diaspora communities we meet every other week via zoom to share information to share best practices we share what worked for our communities what hasn't worked what might work elsewhere we have shared tips or draft legislation that might work in other countries are spoken of different litigation a lot of what has been very important has been this consultation where we can learn from each other learn the trends that are coming in learn the techniques that others have used successfully and why what might be coming our way because what happened in Montreal could happen in Melbourne and what happens in New York or London or Paris will make its way to Buenos Aires that's that's number one number two we do speak in one voice in uncertain aspects on key advocacy so for example when we left Australia our call to action was on the Australian government to move forward the special envoy Julian Seagulls plan on anti-semitism

20:44which has been stalled for a number of months to to accept it and to implement it it was significant that the leaders of the seven largest diaspora communities went to Australia to show solidarity publicly with the community with government leaders in the media and also make this joint call to action finally we have meetings that are hey why do you all move to fucking Israel what do you do that huh that's just that's just a thought I had if Israel's so important and you got to have it why don't you all move there huh interesting it's just it's just it's just interesting it's just interesting you're like the first to bring up Bayback which is interesting it's interesting I mean it's interesting which is interesting which is just interesting it's interesting you say that which is interesting what's interesting about it? It's just interesting as you

21:47bring up A-pack. It's interesting. Don't add or control the government. It's just interesting. For some off the record, some on the record with world leaders in which we share our community's concerns and call for action. So you're concerns like, hey, people are rising up against the genocide. Do you mean like that kind of concern? Hey, people are trying to practice free speech to speak out against the slaughtering children. Do you mean that kind of concern? Hey, people are now petitioning their government to take away our money so we can't keep doing war in Lebanon and in Syria and on the West Bank and slaughtering and doing ethnic cleansing and doing a Rand War and that people are trying to start and that you mean like those kind of concerns? I think she means like that by those kind of concerns. I think those are your concerns. Then of course you guys act like animals and you slaughter children and so then you say so then you create anti-semitism and then you can go look there's anti-semitism that you created because the Zionism is the fuel of Zionism

22:55is anti-semitism and so they have to create it by being Nazis. Just it looks like a Nazi, right? Both a really important body for consultation and learning from each other as well as an effective tool when we can come together and speak in one voice. Huh, speak in one voice. That's something they're really having trouble getting people to rally around the IDF. Am I right? Kind of hard. And by the way Catholics and Christians wouldn't know the first thing about people who insist they speak for their entire religious demographic. Authentic Jews says the ADL and any claim of seven largest Jewish communities on earth represent no Torah observant Jews whatsoever. Judaism is not an Israeli political lobby and Jews are not a global political block. The J7 summit marketed as fighting anti-semitism actively fuels it by merging Jewish faith with

24:02coordinated Israeli Jewish power. Exactly. Egg exactly. Neither Susan Heller, Pinto, nor Jonathan Greenblatt speaks speaks speaks in our name. Not our representatives, not our safety. So those are Jews who are not Zionists who are offended that they conflate Judaism with being an Israeli first Zionist maniac. And I know lots of Jews who are not Zionists. So keep that in mind. A lot of good people. Zionists, not so good. Therefore, uh, their racist organization, they supported a part-tied state and genocide at the very least ethnic cleansing and stealing other people's lands while they pretend to be the victim. So a way to go authentic Jew. What is the what is a Torah observant Jew? So there's

25:06the Talmud, which I understand is not the same as the Torah. The Talmud is like the evil thing and the Torah is not, right? Right? The difference between the Torah and the Talmud is pretty big, right? So the Talmud is like all these rabbis interpretations of the Torah. And the Torah is the word, of course. And then they have the interpretations, what's are the Talmud? And the Talmud is a full of stuff that people like the authentic Jew, I'm disagree with. Is that, are you finding that? I have the Torah is the foundational written text of Judaism containing the first five books of the Moses while the Talmud is the comprehensive record of rabbinic discussions and commentary, explaining how to apply those laws. Yeah. So I was right. So the Torah is the word of the of Moses and the written law and the Talmud is how they bastardize it. Pretty much, right?

26:07Stuff where they say, you know, everybody should be a slave to Jews, stuff like that. The irony is that the religion of Islam actually respects Christianity, the religion of Islam respects Jesus as a as a holy man. They respect the mother of Virgin Mary. You know, who doesn't? Whoa, you know, who doesn't? The Talmud people. Just so you know, ladies and gentlemen, making a return appearance to the Jimmy Dorshow is Kurt Weldon, former American politician, educator who served as Republican representing Pennsylvania's seven district from 87 to 2007. He recently released his new book here. It is, it's called Abel Danger. What the 9-11 commission that commission never told you and an examines classified intelligence program that identified the 9-11 hijackers before the attacks. Let's welcome back to the show, Kurt Weldon. Hi, Kurt.

27:09Jimmy, great to be with you and thank you for your continuing work in this area. It's very important. Oh, it's my pleasure. And I was glad to have you on last time. We did a nice, long interview. And you had lots of great stuff to talk about. But you got new stuff in this book. It's called Abel Danger. And there's one of the things in the book is a this 17 page legal document, of which you say it claimed never revealed before alleging defense officials were told to lie to Congress about 9-11 related information. That's true. Yes. Well, the Abel Danger story, which I originally wrote the manuscript in 2006, my lawyer said if I publish it, then they would kill me after what they did to my my daughter. Remember they read her house to get me out because I was going to be chairman of the committee. I didn't publish the manuscript, but I kept it. I upgraded in 2000, just briefly tell people that story about you wrote the book and what the FBI did to you and your family to try to because you were about to become the chairman of John. Go ahead. So tell

28:14that story. Well, the irony is in 2000 and in the book, you'll see a letter from Donald Rumsfeld written to the speaker saying, I want Kurt Weldon to be chairman of our services. That's in the book. You'll see a letter from the deputy secretary defense under Clinton, John Henry to the speaker saying Kurt Weldon needs to be chairman. You'll see a letter from all I have a hundred and some letters. We only put five in the book. Everybody wanted me to be chairman until 9-11 when I exposed the lies and I defended the Abel Danger team that I was funding and these were all military intelligence officers. All of them are endorsing the book. It's not one. It's 12. It's the inspector general for the Pentagon. It's a top-diAA official. It's Dr. Eileen Prycer from Air Force Intelligence. It's Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaeffer. It's a it's a Mike Maloof who was a Democrat under the government. They're all coming out because they all know that of what they did. And what they did in 2006, I wouldn't have been chairman. They raided my daughter's house

29:14three years before my election and never talked to my daughter. The only purpose was to stop me from winning because they couldn't control me. But Jimmy, here's what's in the book that's going to make your listeners go bananas. I found some documents in my archives after I did the original manuscript that I really had. I have a very large set of archives. One of those documents was a memo sent to me. On the day they raided my daughter's house. They raided her house at eight at nine o'clock in the morning, or eight o'clock in the morning, on October the 16th of 2006, three weeks before my election. That's four thirty in the afternoon and you'll see the memo in my book. I get a personal email from a top advisor to Donald Rumsfeld on his personal stationery. And this is what the memo says, Jimmy, you're going to see it in the book. And it's not saying Congressman, it's saying Kurt, I warned you about able danger. Dick and Don are now going to

30:15destroy you. You've exposed able danger. Their top secret plumbers leak program to give indications of any intelligence about what they were running, which was nine eleven. So so able danger was the inspector general's investigation. It's able danger able danger was a top secret program established by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff allegedly to identify any intelligence regarding Al Qaeda worldwide. And it was a unit in the army. I was funding it. I worked with them. What this memo shows is that able danger really, if you follow what this senior leader was selling, saying to me, on the day they raided my daughter's house, was being used as an advanced tool to let to let Rumsfeld and Cheney and others know what information was

31:16about to occur. Warning people about the nine eleven attack that they were running and managing. So you're saying that it was not saying anything. I'm saying what the memo says. So that the so that the nine eleven attack was cut was helped planned by people inside the government. Is that what you're saying? Was actually done by our people and by if you follow this memo by Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney. Yes. So US US officials planned that attack. Absolutely. According to that memo. Yes. That's also also added in the book is an interview. I have a hundred hours of interviews. There's an interview in the book from a person who worked was hired by the CIA. An expert on open source data mining. She was brought to Virginia. I don't mention her name. I'm giving her name and the other name to President Trump for him to have their their still alive. And she says in the interview and it's quoted by June the first of 2001. They knew

32:21there was going to be an attack against the US between September and December of 2001. That's in quotes. She also goes into the way that they played games over Muhammad adda's name. She said they convinced me they never identified Muhammad adda because they played games that his real name was Muhammad adda al-Sahia. She was an anthropologist and she said they played games to make it look like that they never that the able danger team never identified Muhammad adda when they actually did. That's in the book. The third thing she mentions in its in quotes. One month before the attack on USS Cole. They had a source in in Europe that they gave a green card to who told our government that it was going to be an attack against the USS Cole in the port of Aiden Yemen. That was never transferred to our military and 17 sailors died because Kirkla pulled the commander was never informed. All 17 sailors names are in my book. All of those things are documented. Those names

33:22are included in the book. They're not my statements. They're documented. So you're talking about when you you're talking about the attack on the US Cole back in was it? I think it was 2000. Okay. And it was attack on that. Okay. So that's amazing. No, what it is Jimmy. What it is is we've allowed the deep state starting in the 90s to take over control of the government with unscrupulous people like the claims continued under the bushes through 9-11 and I happen to be a member of Congress who was supported by Rumsfeld to be the chairman of the committee in 2000 in a letter in the book and other leaders. But I defied the system and I said I'm not going to put up with these lies and they took me out and that's been a lie to the American people for 25 years. It's got to stop. And so you you had this book written and you didn't publish it because you you had a legitimate fear for your life, right? I pump a former CIA

34:27Career Staffer Peter Pride, Dr. Peter Pride, I wrote the book in 2005, 2006. One year after I wrote this book, which you saw, which is the book about a rant called Countdown the Terror, where I criticized the CIA, which was openly endorsed by former CIA director Jim Wolsey. I didn't publish able danger because my lawyer said what they did to your family, they'll do more of. So I kept the manuscript, I began to renew it after 2020 with three of my former CIA friends, all were healthy, all three of them died. Two of them in 2022, one of them in 2024. They all died within one month of contracting cancer, all three of them. Their families will verify it. One of them was given a call, a phone call by the former head of CIA counterintelligence. And he said to him, why are you helping Kurt Weldon? And that CIA person, John Quirk said because Kurt Weldon's an

35:28American patriot and John Quirk died later that year of stomach cancer. His family will verify it. It's all in the book. And so I mean, this is, uh, everybody should know that, I mean, this is, I'm, this is quite a, uh, uh, a revelation that US officials actually planned the attack and you're saying that was able to danger. That's what was able danger was them planning the attack. Abled danger, able danger was a tool established. And they didn't know their legitimate purpose was to identify any intelligence worldwide, relative to Al-Kate. What it appears in this memo is that the secret purpose of able danger, if you follow the memos lead to me, given the me on the daily rate of my daughter's house, was that I, that I offended Dick and Don because I revealed the program that they use and he describes it as a plumbers leak to give them information that would

36:29indicate that our intel was where that something was about to happen before 9-11 occurred. The able danger team never knew that was, that was the purpose. That was only known to the people that were planning 9-11. And so that you were also told by a senior FBI source in writing that two of the 9-11 terrorists were on the CIA payroll. Absolutely 100, 100%. I have the document and it's, uh, I've given it to Trump. Absolutely. I have the name of the person, senior FBI official and he said that after that was revealed the CIA recommended, uh, agents, but and I'm not against the CIA. A lot of friends that work for the agency. What I'm saying Jimmy is we've allowed our agencies to be corrupted by some bad people during by power and money and it's in both parties until we take that back. This country's not going to, it's not going to survive. Now I remember in 2016 when Donald Trump was very critical of the intelligence community, including the CIA and then the top

37:29Democrat in the Senate, Chuck Schumer was on a news program with Rachel Maddow and he said Trump was being really dumb to criticize the intelligence community because they have six ways to Sunday to get back to you. So Jimmy, you just wrote the last, you just comment on the last quote in my book. The last statement in my book, Abel Danger is that exact quote. When you have a dunce and he's a dunce that I serve within the house like Chuck Schumer who publicly says that they have six ways of Sunday to get you. That means our Congress leaders are afraid to stand up to the agency that they're supposed to be controlling. That's the last quote in my book. And so the point I make that if the CIA and the intelligence community doesn't work for the president and the Congress, who do they work for, which would have been, that would have been the normal follow up question. A real news person would have asked Chuck Schumer, but of course, Rachel Maddow is a plant from the military industrial complex. She didn't ask that question. So I'll ask it to you. Who does, who do they serve?

38:32That's a good question and that's why the reason why they were so adamant to stop Donald Trump is not just because of Trump being a wealthy man. They knew that, starting with Clinton and continuing under Bush Jr and Obama and Biden, they were able to manipulate the government anyway they wanted. They knew that if Trump got in, he might expose all the bad things that occur in the 90s with the Clintons and China and the technology, the Russians and the nuclear program. All the things that happened under Bush 9-11, so they had to do everything possible to keep Trump out. That's why the fervor, that's why the power was so great by both parties to stop Trump because the fear of the deep state was that Donald Trump would reveal all of this. This has been building up for 20 years. I saw it all happening and that's why we've got it. And I've never met Donald Trump, but we've got it. We've got to continue to cleanse the system. There are good people until there are good Democrats, good Republicans, but right now they're not in control.

39:33And so, okay, I guess it's, you know, I asked Joe Kent that same question, who do they work for? And he said it was a conglomerate of corporations, billionaires, and you know, dark money, powerful people. So I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he said. And so this, I mean, I think we've all felt, especially now, there's a whole generation of people who didn't live through the trauma of 9-11, who now all, of course, don't believe the official story. And there was a cover-up of it. And so when the, in 2006, when the Pentagon, in fact, of general, did an investigation of able danger, it was rigged. That whole investigation was rigged, correct? Totally, completely. It was a big cover-up. They wouldn't let me test. Here I am the spokesperson for 2 million firefighters in the AMS in the country, a firefighter myself. I was at World Trade Center in 93 with Fire Commissioner Safer. I'm wearing the jacket of Ray Downey, the chief who died in 9-11, who gave it

40:34to me, and I was there at 9-11. They wouldn't let me testify because they knew that I knew what was going on and they did not want to hear what I had to say. The whole thing was a cover-up. And so as early as 2000, they had, they knew who Mohammed Ata was and that he was in a Brooklyn cell. Absolutely. And that was more than a year before the 9-11 attacks. And the 9-11 commission said that US agencies did not know Ata until the day of the attacks. We have proof, we've absolute proof, including a CIA operative. There was paid by the agency who had charts on the wall of the home and in the office with Mohammed Ata in the center. And that person, I've given the name to Donald Trump, will take a polygraph, the able danger team identified Mohammed Ata. A year before 9-11, they tried to transfer the information to the Justice Department three times and were blocked. They were blocked from transferring the information. Louis Free condemned that publicly. And the

41:35commander of our special forces General Jeff Lambert in his book, Course Soldiers, Newer Times Bessar on page 27. He's asked the question, General, what were your thoughts when 9-11 happened? He said within seconds, I knew he'd done the attack. I knew it was Mohammed Ata because I had been briefed on a top-secret Army intelligence program. And I knew they tried three times to transfer the information. That's not me saying that. That's General Jeff Lambert. That's Louis Free. I'm telling you, Jimmy, this is the biggest cover-up of the biggest scandal in the history of the nation. And it's got to be undone. Donald Trump needs to appoint a new independent commission. And there was an Army intelligence officer, Eric Kleinsmith. And he was told to wipe all the 2.5 terabytes of material relating to the able danger. Eric Kleinsmith was the leader of the Army Intelligence effort of Fort Belvoir. Eric is one of the endorsers of my book. There's a chapter in endorsement in the book from Eric. And Eric documents exactly what you just said. They told

42:37him to destroy 2.5 terabytes of data, not just because of able danger, because the able danger team had come up with information that related to the scandal of our transfer of technology to China under the Clinton administration, where they sold our technology, auctioned it off for campaign donations. I was there. I was a member of the Cox Commission. The nine people investigated that and that's all documented. And that's why they also told Eric he had to destroy that data. They then moved the center to Garland, Texas. And I was aware of all that because I was a chairman of the oversight committee of all military intelligence. So yes, you're right. So do you think that, I mean, it seems like the whole system is corrupt, correct? I mean, good people. The problem is we've allowed people that have developed power to think that they are that they are that they are kings and that they are gods and that they can do whatever they want and nobody can question them. I know who those people are. I've cheered for that information to the right people and the appropriate time they need to be taken down. They all have big bank

43:40accounts. They're all very wealthy and they're only concerned with power and money. And Jimmy, the loss of 9.11 is not just the 343 firefighters. It's not just the 2977 victims. We then sent American kids to Afghanistan to look for Bin Laden. I have one chapter in my book, Jimmy. And this is all documented. Bin Laden was in Iran. Yes. He was put there by our intelligence agency and a deal cut with Soleimani, which means 2500 of our GI's came home in body bags looking for Bin Laden. When a handful of our leaders do the Bin Laden, what an inner when I've got us in, he was in Iran. 3900 U.S. contractors came home in body bags looking for Bin Laden. The total death toll of 9.11 was over 9,000 innocent Americans. It's got to stop. I mean, of course, that's not counting all the people in all those wars that we use. That's just a millions of people that killed displaced, homemade homeless because of the using 9.11. And so, um, so if you have

44:46officials planned to the 9.11 attack, you think it my, my guess would be it is so they needed a reason. They needed a Pearl Harbor as Benjamin Netanyahu said that we needed a Pearl Harbor event so that we could go in and do as General Wesley Clark revealed. They had a plan to go into seven Arab countries and overthrow them. Iran is the last one on the list. And we've now tried to do that. So you think that was why they the U.S. officials planned this attack? Well, Jimmy, you know, all I can tell you is you're a very reasonable person and you're a very logical person. And I think you're probably on the right track. What has to happen? We need to have an independent commission. No defense contractors, no think tanks funded by the CIA, people that have integrity to review the facts of what you just said, the buildings, well, how they came down, the buildings weren't brought down by an airplane or by fire. Probably directed energy, but that's something that most people have no idea about. I know about it because

45:46I funded oversight of all military technology. I know direct read the book by Dr. Judy Woods and you'll where the towers go until America comes to grips with the biggest line our country's history will never go to survive as a nation. The biggest cover up of the biggest scandal in the history of our country where 9,000 innocent people died were slaughter is what 9.11 is all about. This is a 25th anniversary. My dedication starts with the firefighters. They were my friends. Ray Downing was there when he took me through the 93 attack and pleaded with me to help. He was a former Marine, five kids. I listened to Ray because of Ray, I wrote the legislation to create the Gilmore Commission. Jim Gilmore chair there's no mention of the Gilmore Commission in my 11 report. Jim Gilmore endorses my book. You know, Jim Gilmore was the past chairman of Republican National Party. He endorsed my book. He knows the people have got to stop the same thing. Chris Lehman, his brother John was on the 9.11 commission. Chris Lehman was one of the top

46:48advisors for Ronald Reagan in the White House. Chris Lehman endorses my book. He stands up. We've got to realize in America you've got to stand up for what's right and stop this bullshit and stop putting, stop putting the agency convince everybody else that there are a bunch of conspiracy theorists. When they generate most of those conspiracy themselves. So in that book she claims that the the the the steel was turned to dust and that just can't happen through explosions and that and that there must have been direct energy weapons. And you know that the United States was working on direct energy weapons because you oversaw the committee that funded it. Jimmy, I funded the early development of direct energy back in the early 2000s. I know what was being take. I would never think that our country and it's my Wallace nightmare would ever use a technology on our own people. And I hope that's not the case. But I was there at 9.11. I wasn't some bystander, some media person or what. I was at ground zero walking through

47:48two feet of dust, not not fire rubble and I'm a firefighter. I was a fire chief. I know her fires like I was a walking through burned. I was walking through a dust. There were no there were no but the dust there. There were no no furnishings. It was and I never thought about because I never thought my country would ever allow that to happen. That needs to be looked at. I'm not saying she has all the radiators, but I'm saying Jimmy. What we've been told is total garbage. And it's about time that we stand up and speak out and I'm not going to stop and go ahead. I owe this to the firefighters. I told Ray Downey when I brought his widow and five kids down to my district one month after 9.11, the Pennsylvania. I had 50,000 people come out and I'm a ray as an American hero. He was dead. We wanted Ray as a symbol. And I said, we'll never stop until we get the truth for Ray. You know what they do? They have us raised money for all the families and the victims. And that's important. But don't let that be the reason to stop. What about those that die? You got to focus on

48:50why they died and never let it happen again. When you do that and then you say, well, I did my part, I funded this house for this family. That's not the answer. Because we allowed these firefighters to be killed when they never should have died in the first place. And those firefighters were friends of mine. And that's what this is now all about. It's about what this country's all about. It's about what we stand for. And if we're not going to stand up for the values of this country, and this is the 290th anniversary of the first fire cut me in America, started by Benjamin Franklin in 1736, then we're not a nation. And so do you have any confidence that we ever will get a committee? I mean, if they can threaten you to not publish your book in 2006, what's to stop them from threatening anybody who gets appointed to an independent commission? Is that for are you afraid of that? I am. I'm afraid of everything, Jimmy, but the fear is not stopping me. I ran for office in the first place. I was a teacher. And my hometown had been taken over by one of the five largest motorcycle gangs in America. They're running all the drugs for the Philadelphia mob.

49:52And the people in the town came to me and said, you're the youngest of nine kids. You know, you're a teacher, you're a firefighter, we run for mayor. I ran against the Republican mayor in the primary. The Democrats nominated me. I served five years as mayor to take on the motorcycle gang. They threatened me. They killed three people in my town. If we back down the threats, we're not a nation who are a bunch of whims. I'm not backing down. I know these scumbags, Jimmy. I know who they are. And I've got it all documented. I've got 100 hours of audio tapes not done by me, interviews by the president of the National Association of Historians. Those tapes are all digitized, annotated, and indexed. And I'll reveal them to the right people. Do I think that we have people of integrity in this nation that will do the right thing? Yes, Donald Trump needs to appoint them. And I hope and I think and I believe he will. If people like you keep speaking up, I think you'll do the right thing. Let's just briefly talk about. So I mean, I think the headline here is that you know for a fact that you as officials plan the 9-11 attack.

50:56What the heat that what I know for a fact is that I have documents in my book that you can buy the book and say it or look in the book and get online. And you'll see a memo. Actually, it's redacted. So I don't show the name from a Pentagon official working for Rumsfeld, who sent me a note on the same day they raided my daughter's house telling me why they raided my daughter's house saying I warned you that you exposed able danger. And now Dick and Don, I don't know who else Dick and Don would be. And Dick and Don are going to destroy you because you revealed there what they called Plumber's League. The Plumber's League was a program that evidently they thought they could get intelligence that would tell them what agencies were getting information about this 9-11 incident before it occurred. That is absolutely obscene. That's not me saying that Jimmy. And I want to protect that guy because that guy is a hero. I don't want him brought cast aside. He tried to get me who was at the time the vice chairman of defense and vice chairman of Homeland Security to do my job. And I tried. But they took me on Jimmy and they

52:00took me out of office. And then three months, two months later George Bush the father has the goal to do a public tribute to me in front of 2,000 leaders in Washington, where it calls me the kind of leader of the American ease after they removed me from office to be on that plan or gain. I don't need their money. I don't need their handouts. This game's got to stop. So, um, okay, well, uh, Kurt Weldon, uh, it's a good able danger. What the 9-11 commission never told you. Is it? Is it my? Do I have a correct memory that almost every person on the 9-11 commission disavowed their own report? Well, I don't know that everyone. Some of them are dead. I know we're good people. I don't blame the commissioners, Jimmy. Okay. The problem was the 9-11 commission was established by the Congress. And I knew many of them personally. But the commission director was a guy named Phil Zelec out. Right. Uh, just for your own information, he endorsed Kamala Harris in the last election, which will tell you something publicly. He was one of Kandhi Rice's best friends.

53:02Uh-huh. And I, I, I've been told you did business work with her. He was the chairman of the commission or the director of the commission. Jamie Corollock was the top Democrat on the commission. She was a lawyer who wrote the firewall memo that prevented intelligence from being transferred from the military. The person that did law the staff work was Dieter Snell. They were the three people that I interact with most that worked on the commission. Now, I would tell you this, Jimmy, uh, and this is a very important point that the director of the 9-11 commission went over to Afghanistan to interview any military that might have come in contact with military personnel that knew anything about 9-11. And of course, they're investigative work. And Tony Schaefer, Lieutenant Colonel, Brian Star recipient went to his commanders and I was a part of a special unit intelligence unit that did work on Abel Danger. I should meet with him. Tony Schaefer met with Phil Zelec out in Afghanistan. They exchanged business cards. And Zelec out said, when you get back to the states, make sure we meet again. It's very important. When Tony Schaefer got back to America,

54:03they had taken away a security clearances. They shut down his offices. They took all of his records away and they went to destroy his family. I did a one hour special order on the house floor saying this is a scandal bigger than Watergate. Zelec out didn't want to talk to Tony Schaefer. They didn't want anything to do with Tony Schaefer because Tony Schaefer knew the story. There's no mention of Abel Danger, the 9-11 commission report. No mention at all. So Tony Schaefer publishes his book. After he's out of the service, no amount of protocol is you go to your boss, you get pre-approval. His boss pre-approved the book. The book comes out. As the book's in publishing, our government finds out. They issue a six-and-a-sister to the publisher. Stop publishing the book, called Darkheart. Tony Schaefer's book, it stopped. The government uses your taxpayer money and my taxpayer money and they buy all 9,500 first edition copies and they destroy them. Destroy them.

55:04Then they allow Tony to publish a redacted version. So I had Tony on the podcast a year ago. I said, Tony, you have the original version. Yeah, here it is, Congressman. Yeah, the redacted version. Yeah, I said, what was so, what did you give away? What, what, what, what secrets did you tell that your boss didn't see when you showed him the manuscript? He said, there were no secrets, Congressman. Well, what did they want out of your book? He said, they wanted the name of Zellacal removed from my book. Oh, okay. They wanted full Zellacal's name removed, but he had been briefed by Tony Schaefer. That's not a state secret, Jimmy. Okay. So you get the big cover up. Yeah, so the director of the 9-11 commission was in on it. Totally. Yeah. Okay. So there was no way, so that commission was set up to fail. It was set up. Well, that's why originally the two of the commissioners resigned from the commission. The senator from Georgia stepped down. He didn't want to be a part of it. And originally they were going to have, I think, what's his face involved? And he didn't want to be a part of it either. Henry Kissinger, but the senator, the commissioners weren't

56:08bad people, but the commissioners told me personally they knew that there was information they weren't wasn't being shared to them. So the staff wrote the commission report. They wouldn't even let me testify, Jimmy. Now I'm the vice chairman of the fence committee, vice chairman of the Homeland Security. I'm the leader of all the firefighters in America, two million firefighters. I was at 9-11. I was at the trade center in 1990s. They would not let me testify before the commission and tell what I knew. There was no mention of the Gilmore commission report at all. There's no mention of able danger at all. So when Colonel Schaefer tells Zellico about able danger, the commission then says it was not historically significant. And that is the biggest crop of bullshit in the history of the world. When you read my book and you see what able danger did, you'll understand. They didn't want able danger to be a part of 9-11 because of the importance of able danger, which is now coming out. For him to say it wasn't historically relevant, it's absolutely garbage. Well, I, uh, probably why endorse Kamala Harris in the last presidential

57:12election. So, uh, Kurt Weldon, great book, able danger, uh, the stuff you're not being told about this by your government, by your media, by anybody. It's there. And I appreciate you sticking your chin out and risking your own life to tell the truth about this. I'm sure, uh, you know, it's a great tribute to the firemen who were killed that you want to get the truth about this. And, uh, I know that motivates you a lot because, uh, you're, uh, you're a fireman at heart. Jimmy, Jimmy, the one story that I would urge your listeners and he wants to see the film called Bravo 7. It has the actual verbal footage of the U.S. Fire Department arriving on the scene. And the first unit was headed by Battalion Chief Oryo Palmer, a father of three kids, young guy in a great shape. He puts his 40 pounds of gear on his whole crew does. They take the elevator to the 40th floor of the first tower. They get off the elevator, start walking up the stairs. You can hear him calling back the headquarters, one the 45th floor, 50th floor. They get all the way up to the 78th floor. And he said, we're here. When the 78th floor, the floor of impact,

58:16we got two fires and we could handle it. One minute later, the whole building collapses. Jimmy, that's not real. That's not real. And Oryo Palmer is not here today because some scumbags took his life right down. He's not here today because some scumbags took his life. One of the pilots of the plane who was from my district, my neighbor, who went to my university, his two kids lost their dad because some scumbags decided that they didn't care about the morality of killing other people. If America puts up with that, Jimmy, we're not a nation that we claim to be. And the world watches us and looks at us and laughs at us. It's our time to stand up and do the right thing. Well, best of luck getting a independent commission to look into this. We've needed this for a long time. Kurt Weldon, thanks so much. The book is able danger. Thank you again for coming on for your courage and your leadership on this issue. It's really important and I appreciate you not letting it go. I can't. Can't let it go. Okay, brother.

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