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3:10Hey, Reindrops, the Monday Night Live crew is headed to New York City. We have a live show on Sunday, September 20th at the City Winery in New York City. That's right. Come see me, Carlos King, Blue Cintric, Claudia Jordan, and Dustin Ross live on stage in New York City, Sunday, September 20th, City Winery. Get your tickets at KingdomRainnt.com. All right, Reindrops, Dustin, I are back to recap episode four of Ultimate Girls Trip. That's right. Yes. I know. I know. I know. I know we have to wait till the moment comes. But can we at least start by acknowledging that this is the episode when Nini returns to Bravo. We'll get to the second. Yeah. It was a big, it was a moment for people who have been fans of the Real Housewives of New York City.

4:11It was a moment. You felt it, no matter what your opinion, some of her actions or words may be, I think it was unanimously felt across the everybody that watched that show. Everybody was happy to see Nini back on their screen. It felt good to watch her and to hear her voice, hear her talking shit again on that TV with the Bravo logo down in the bottom of the screen. It just looked and felt good. It was a good moment. It felt good, man. It did it did it did. Okay, so range, we're going to get to that moment. But first, listen, the Ultimate Girls Trip episode four, the ladies are in Atlanta. Yes. Okay. It's going to be a drag brunch and an alter ego party because they have to, of course, acknowledge the amazingness of their blanks. Yes. We can too introduce the alter ego photo shoot that is super iconic. For that was the reason that Atlanta was always going to be the special episode in the

5:11first place. So much so we get two episodes of Atlanta. So can't wait for that. One thing that arose as the ladies were talking about Atlanta, which was nice to sort of hear everybody talk about like their favorite moments from the show, Jazeal being like the biggest fan of Atlanta, giving Nini her flowers, Sheree, Cynthia. All the girls are doing that Lisa Boralos likes Sheree who going to check me boo. We have a bunch of other moments. Kim Zozzi, I can hear Siger-Rez from Kyle. Then we got to Vicki Goffison who said she's never watched an episode. I told you. I told you. I told you. I didn't know that video. We can't listen. We can sit on Patreon, but JB bleep it for audio. I told you on Megan's. I told you on Megan's. That's right. I'm telling you. That's Bootsie daughter. I'm telling you. I told you on Megan's quite literally. I don't think he was about she also this episode and her confessional said when she was

6:14talking about her look being Jackie or whatever, which anyway, but when she was talking about her look for the alter ego party being Jackie, she was like, you know, back in the 50s and 60s when everyone was so perfect. I'm a black American. Okay. And everybody wasn't perfect in the 50s and 60s. So she just lands. She's tone deaf and on top of being dumb and stupid. And so that is a toxic combination because I don't even think her old ass is even trying to be as off putting will say as she is, but she is very off putting for black people that watch her on television. I didn't like it. I didn't like her swoon or why was Yoni so beautiful to her? You know, let's talk about that, but right now because I got admit that, you know, when Vicki met Nini's on an off again boyfriend, Yani, they've been dating for four years.

7:17When she first see some, she says he's dapper looking at this. She started swooning. He's sexy. So life is very interesting side of Vicki sort of get a little bit horny for Yoni. It's crazy. What? Do you see? She's not hot. So here her talk about sex is gross. You know, it's tough, tough watch, tough, tough watch for me. That's a tough watch, Cartholomew. It's a tough watch for you, man. What makes it so tough? Her face and her jowls and her hairline, all of those things. It all makes it tough to watch and her, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, all that, I get sick of all of that. All that goddamn hootin' and hollerin' and shit. You know how a kid is being bad and you have to get a tap that hand at, stop that, stop.

8:18That's what I'll be wanting to do to Vicki. Stop, stop. Doing too much. So, yeah. And she wouldn't have had to tell me, but one time to leave her alone, the way she did them about that, coming and hanging out in the room last week and shit. No, I think we all just need to be by ourselves. Thank you. Thank you for that, because that would now become the rule. Stay the fuck away from me. With your horrible energy, your horrible face, nothing good to contribute to the conversation ever, nothing, nothing. She only kissed Nina's ass because everybody else was. And she just didn't want us to have everybody against her. So, yeah, talking about Shane, watch it, like, I bet you didn't. I bet you all know why. Okay. I bet you just. I bet you didn't. Okay, Vicki. Listen, Vicki, I'ma try to buy best to see if I can help you a little bit.

9:19Vicki, let us know if you watch the Cosby Show, a different world, Martin, Living Single, Insecure. Oprah. Shit. Oprah. Oprah. You know what I'm saying? Let's start basic level. Easily accessible to you. Let's just start there like Oprah. You know what I'm saying? Do you know who Oprah Winfrey is? That's it. I can't. You know? I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. You know, I can't. These are the QTNA. Okay. This is what we need to know from her. But you know, again, I'm trying my best to mine and siphon and sift something good from her contribution to this show and I'm coming up short. It's really hard, man. It's hard. It's hard with that damn Vicki. And then she's back on Orange County. So I got to see her add some more. You know, doing press and shit. God damn, man.

10:21But that's when you are in the big apples. So similar to Luan, Vicki are apples and oranges. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. And right now, I believe there's a recall on oranges anyway. I think she covered with Salmanila all up her ass cracker. So what's going on? So she's reek about. She's contaminated. Does it want to look these orange recall like the movie? I don't know. Taylor Farms has orange. She got anyway. That's the said the FDA. We need to recall Vicki's orange. Just that you have officially won. It's the end of August and you have officially made the funniest joke on all of August. Okay. I have never heard anybody want to recall Vicki's. The FDA. You want to call. Okay, Dustin Ebola, Ecoli, whatever it is, is tainted. Exactly.

11:21And so is she. That's right. So does it in in lighter news? Yes. You know, it was nice. Like I said, to see everybody. It was. Really talk about their favorite Atlanta housewives moment. You are a historian. What is Dustin's favorite Atlanta housewife moment? I can tell you right now. All the time. You have it. I can tell you right now. Really? She raised car park. She raised spades party when she was dating Dr. Ty and everybody clocked in. Mama Joyce asked you got it online. All of that. The meaning narrating the story. The candy and then being competitive with the spades. Neenie, the way she was reacting to Dr. Ty. That scene is my favorite scene from the real housewives of Atlanta. It is because it has everybody when they were asking him questions.

12:24And the way they need you. You ain't got to get the family getting defensive. Now the way that they were talking. And then they it was. I love it when everybody is on the same side against the outside. Forced on shows like this. So like all of them. Similarly to similar to when they got Yovanna's ass in Toronto in season 12. Right. It was one of those moments where like everybody band together even if they hated to fuck out each other. It was all on Sheree's side. You know what I'm saying trying to figure out who his nigga was. And Mama Joyce asking the questions. She was asking Miss Lawrence. He was asking the questions. He was asking them making faces and reacting to how Dr. Ty he was laughing. And she said that is just that's peak peak real house Cynthia. It's peak real house Lisa wool. It's it's peak real housewives of Atlanta for me. That's just for me. Now it's been a whole lot of other unforgettable moments. Unforgettable moments. But on a personal level. That was a black ass episode.

13:25And I love that. I love that. So it's funny. So it's funny. Since we are talking about Atlanta. I'm talking about moments. I have some behind the scenes tea for you that never made air that happened. Okay. Come on. Come on. It's bloody. You know what's funny. How everything comes for a circle. So what we were going to see in the next episode is Lisa Wu confront Mimi at the All to Eagle party. So that's the next week's episode. Right. So Lisa Wu. Um, what happened at that space party is Lisa Wu took Mimi Lisa outside and they were talking on the front porch step. Like how we do as black folks in the. Yes. Yes. You on the porch, right? Yeah. They're on the porch. Lisa Wu and Mimi. And. And then we're going to see Lisa Wu. Lisa Wu. Let's just. So Lisa Wu fell.

14:25That Mimi was acting funny towards her because her star was rising. And she confronted Mimi on it. And Mimi was confused. And Lisa Wu wanted to. Like. Get a. Lisa Wu was getting aggressive with Mimi. Mm hmm. Like, like, like, Lisa Herf boil looks like how far on an keeping track of the city? It's a bit of a bit serious on the outside r. So sheets. It was like this. It was giving the back is she said are you really trying to do this?, like, Mimi worked the for the wall. So you're trying to get back on the show, by arguing with Mia, whatever, what she did, she tried to start a drunk ass argument on the front porch with Mimi again. So what you're telling me is that history is repeating itself next week. Yeah, they said she was in her cup in Atlanta at that, at that alter ego party.

15:31I said she was deep in her cup and that she tried to start some shit with Mimi to get on camera. And they said, and you could even see it in the preview for next week. And he was like, you want me to say it again? Mimi was doing what she does, being dismissive and minimizing her. And I don't know why Lisa Wolf thought that that would work. We will see what happens. But I have to say that moment because I think it's hilarious. It is hilarious. We get to sort of see like, round two of it a little bit and how it all comes for a circle. So why don't you all put that in the show? Why didn't you all put that argument in the cut? I think what happened was if I had to be a guessing man, I think it was so. And again, this is season three. And at that time, you didn't break the fourth wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the fourth wall was being broken so much because Lisa's issues with Mimi was all about Mimi's who Mimi was because of the show. Okay, and then I get it.

16:31I get it. I get it. How your argument, right? It was only about that. It wasn't about like, and like, of course, like everything that surrounds you. But that's why season four, when Mimi and Sheree got into it about time-run and the party promoting, that's why they never broke the fourth wall fully in terms of Mimi, Kim and Sheree was supposed to be on a flyer promoting a party because of their celebrities. They had to give a little bit of something, but the year before that, you did not break the fourth wall. At all. Wow. So another producer question now that we over here, I felt like, and I feel like, you know how I went, you let a kid do something that they want to do, but you really didn't want them to do it, but you're going to let them do it under some conditions. Right? So you had that talk with them. Look, take your ass in here. You go, you don't go this way, you bring all this with you, and then you bring your last home.

17:35I feel like that's a conversation like that happened either with Nini and herself, or either with the producers in Nini because we got her boyfriend, a life update, a check-in on how she felt about not being on the show. A link to some in common with her and Kyle. All in this one, Nini, I mean, she really brought bags to the show. You know what I'm saying? She brought stories. She brought everything she needed. I mean, she literally maximized her conversation on the show that I was going to be aired. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like somebody had a conversation on her like, look, you can do it, but you're going to have to let us know who you're dating. You're going to have to let us know. What's been going on? How you feel about being off the show? And then your ass can feel them. I feel like one of them conversations was, what do you think producer? No, what's it? I'm going to tell you what it turns up and what, listen, brain drops, the patronage exclusive you guys get just know on tonight's

18:36Monday Night Live, me Claudia Dustin and Blue would dive more into it. So Dustin, I'll give you more. Okay. Two in terms of some insight in terms of why Nini did it. Only because Nini said it publicly, that's why I'll share it. But I think to your point, first of all, it wasn't a condition. I can tell you that. I definitely think Nini in that moment, it was the opposite. I think those girls felt let's get everything off this bitch because we just don't know. We're really okay. Okay. What are we going to do? Okay. That's why I cut to obviously Nini pulling up a arrange rover, rose down the window and says welcome to Atlanta bitch. But also meeting Dustin, she was nervous. And you know, nervous seeing these holes and they'd better be nice to her. She's going to read them. I think Nini came in nervous about the reception because when you saw the

19:41Kyron at the bottom of the screen when they put Nini leaks in her 10 year on the show, she just went through like seven, 10 through 12, season 17 just wrapped. So that's five years of her down the show anymore. It made you realize that wow, she really has been on TV, not TV. She has been on housewives and five years. Yeah. She ain't been on TV in five years. She did college, she'll Dustin. That don't count. Dustin, it was on TV. But we're not, but we're talking about Nini. You know what I'm saying? So that don't count. We're talking about scripted roles because she's an incredible actor. She was, she was so fucking good on a new normal. I'll say that until I go out of here. She was incredible on there. She was incredible on Glee. She was great in Cinderella on Broadway. Like Nini can act and she's good at. Yes. And yes, when she was on Broadway and she was good on,

20:41she had a guest scene on Clean Sweet. Was it called? It's a show with the Vurn Cox. Yes. Yeah, the Vurn Cox and George Wallace. It was a Norman Lear project when his last projects. And Nini had a cameo on an episode of that. A lot of cast away? No, no. Norman Lear. Not George Wallace. Yeah. Oh, my leg, Doc. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, God, no. No, George Wallace. I want him to be on the show. So yeah, I ain't got no, I don't custom me out. But yes, Carlos, she was great on that. I want to see Nini acting. Fuck trying to be on back on the house. So I was like, need to get your back on primetime television in the sitcom acting and doing your thing back in her comedy bag. That's what I want to see her do. Do some movies and shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Start acting, Nini. We can eradicate food deserts with this technology. Hey, y'all, this is Long the Rosa from the latest with Long the Rosa, the podcast.

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25:56I don't know if it just made me feel I just felt connected to Nini again, the way that I have it in the long time. When I saw her on the Real Housewives Ultimate Girl's trip, this past episode, it just felt good to see her. And I felt myself rooting for her again. And I hadn't felt like that in a long time. You know what I'm saying? So I just want to see her back in her bag doing what she does. And she's an incredible actor. I just want to see her do more. She is. No, I definitely want to see her do more too. Which is why I hope is that this will be the beginning of a laugh for her. So fingers. The fans happy. I know the network is going to love that. The fans are happy as hell. We happy. And I think the numbers will be, I think I think I think this episode and next week's episode, the numbers are going to be in my opinion.

26:58I see these two episodes being the highest rated of all the episodes. Yeah, these are the episodes to watch. To watch and for Nini now, Honorable Mention Candace Dillig. Because Candace, Candace, I think is going to give us what we want in this Atlanta episode. I cannot wait. She said to me in my interview with her that we will not be disappointed. Do that. Also, we got a lot of shit to talk about. So fuck all that. What was up with Jazeal? I didn't like what she said to Stacy. That was crazy to me when she went on the, on the, on the, um, okay. The other fucking costume part at the alter ego party. Walking up to say, uh, girl, who is you? Stacy was like, I'll give you a hint. She was like, you know, she started giving her hints and stuff. Rafa, you see this shit?

27:58This thing, this is the ugliest, uh, shit I ever seen, whatever, the worst, such and such. Look at what she got on. It was just like, rude as fuck, like blatantly. And I'm like, I don't know why she thinks Stacy won't cuss her ass on because Stacy will do that. And so I don't know why Jazeal was, I did it. It just, there was no funny edge to it. It was just like, I didn't like that shit. And you got the, the gaw, because that, that, that, Diana Ross costume was not sufficient. And you know, it was not Carlos. It was not, Diana had more hair than that. And, and, and Boa's on the, on the end of a Fredrick's, a Hollywood, you know, I'm saying, uh, the lace cape or whatever the fuck she had on that. That's not that she even had one of a real gown like that. Like Diana being gowns and shit, you know what I'm saying? That cheap ass microphone talking in and all night. And you got the audacity to say some about Stacy Rush.

29:00Who actually once she told once, because I wondered what Stacy was to have. I didn't know how to say she did Middle Safety. I just thought she pulled it up, you know what I'm saying? But it made sense, when she said it, it made sense. I was like, oh, it's like a Stacy version of Tyra Banshee. Tyra, yeah. Which, listen, Stacy look good. As he knows. As he knows. I think this, I think this, I think this. Number one, listen, I love Jazeal based on Jazeal's performance as a housewife. Yes, can't take it away from her. She's in incredible house. I, I, I hear what people say. I never comment on it because you don't think she can dress either. I think that when it came to the Diana Rob. I think that I think I think that it's like two beats. I got a Ross look. It gave more rebbe and synopeed music video. Mm-hmm. Syna P. Yes. Okay. Um, sister of La Toya.

30:00Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It gave me Diana Ross. It gave me B.B. Jackson child. No shade. Can't take it like so. I definitely agree with you that it gave baptism Hollywood. Yes. It's off the run. Lovers Lane, Priscilla's. You know what I'm saying? Lovers Lane, that kind of shit. The nasty book. That's what I was saying. She got out there nasty catalog. That's what it looked like. It did not look like Diana Ross. You got the ball. Does it okay to talk about what nobody wears in any form? Constantly everyday clothing, formal wear, underwear, swimwear. She can't talk about what nobody wears. Period. She doesn't have some moments where she looked decent. You know, but it's overwhelmingly more likely for her to look crazy. And that's just the reality of it. You know what I'm saying? So I just thought that was mean as hell. And I don't like it when they be mean to Stacey. Like she's not, Stacey's not a pushover. She will defend herself. But I don't like it when they be doing that mean shit to her

31:01because she hasn't done nothing on that show. Too anybody to deserve blatant disrespect. Going to that. I agree with you. Like I didn't get that. I don't get it either. I think when it comes to Stacey, the only thing I can come up with is because Stacey, as of right now, is the fan favorite Potomac. I think DeZell has her eyes on her. I think DeZell will always try to plug her. I think DeZell, who has said on this very special that I want to be the mean girl. Oh, yeah. That's my role. And I want to be that. I think I think when it comes to Stacey being the fan favorite, I think she's going to chop right the knees every chance she gets. I agree with you though. I don't find it warranted. I don't enjoy it. But what you enjoy is the, because Stacey will clap back. And I will enjoy watching this upcoming season of Potomac. They also got a teaser doing the commercial break. Yes, we did. Talking about the grand dom is, what does she say?

32:05The grand dom is done it again or whatever. She was like, I thought she said she was letting that grand dom still I was laughing when DeZell said that. Because I'm like, these ladies will find any fucking thing to say about what you did and said. So that was funny to me. I can't wait. And it felt good to see all their faces on screen. That's how it did. But that's why I did enjoy it. Going back to the drag queen, so I do want to ask you about this. Do you remember the look of each drag queen representing the housewife? I remember the one that was just like Porsche from the season, um, 16 stuff. And then the other ones. Yeah, I remember vaguely. Who won to you in terms of the best job, representing the housewife? Nini. Nini.

33:07Nini. In the wrong. That's Lennie. The uh, yes. God, put the one in the impression was cool. I thought that was cool. He did good. Yeah. I thought, I thought star Sanchez Carrington, who did his sales good. Yes, that was good too. That was a good one. That was a good one. Teresa and these big straws. We, this is more of a reality, have a dark segment raindrops, so we're not going to go too deep. Spawn into it. But Teresa was commenting, Dustin, on how big the straws were. The MC said, you must not be used to big things like that in your mouth. Teresa said, oh, baby, trust me that I am. And we saw Teresa. Let's just say Dustin, she'll that she has many talents when it comes to being married to Louis. I love it. You know what I'm saying? Suck that dick if you want to suck it. Go ahead. And uh, I, uh,

34:10that scene just proves why Teresa is good on these shows. She's not afraid to, you know, do something that's risk A and the name of having some just a little fun with your girls. You know what I'm saying? And I think that that is something that serves her will as a housewife. And so that was just another example of what makes Teresa a bomb ass housewife. I love that scene. Love that, love that, love that. I was like, like, even when she said the fresh of breath there. Yeah. And then that's not her trying to appear to be in the end. No. Like she just really be talking. And I love it. I love it. That's why we love her, man. We've always loved her. Teresa was the breaker. I don't care what nobody says. And I don't even think it's up for a debate. Teresa was the breakout star from the real housewives of New Jersey. And everybody thought it was going to be someone else, but it wasn't. It was Teresa. Who, Caroline Manza? Mm-hmm. And he and her family out of the brownstone and all that shit. And they had set that up.

35:12Caroline was the toughest nails anchor. The toughest. You know, you, my family, let me tell you something about my family. You know, like that was that was Caroline Manza. We didn't give a fuck about that. We fell in love with Teresa because she was funny. She had all of them cute ass little girls. Just the way that she would speak and that her quirkiness, you know, it just was, that's what made us love her. And she was the star. And she is the star. That's why she's on the thing. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? She's, and as much as that earlier, that is who Teresa is working with her. She's one and two. It's everything you say. She. She. She says that's just who she is. That is not. I believe it. You're not like some of the housewives play up a dingyness because it's cute. Mm-hmm. Teresa really has, she's non-doiser. Yep. She's not the watcher. But that's why we love her. And what I love about her, she doesn't take it personally. She's like, I had a moment. It's all good. Let's keep it moving.

36:12So your favorite drag queen that came out playing her stuff. And he comes out. Mm-hmm. And immediately, con Richards, bum rushes the stage to give her a hug. And in that moment, Dustin, I got to talk to him a little bit because me knowing he need personally, I know what that moment meant for her. Because when she said she was nervous, the dog, the dog like that scene too. Okay, he did quit. He said, I don't leave me out to me. I don't leave me out to you. And then she had a... What we brought to go do is make his mark. Brody, so the thing is this, I think she was worried about how she would be received. And to know that call Richards, bum rushes the stage to hug her. I know in that moment, she felt like,

37:13okay, like, you know, you can, I'm saying like, you just don't know how these girls will receive you based on you not being on the show. Your ex, it was controversial. Yeah, you just don't know. That's a lot of layers there, man. Those ladies showered her with love though. All of them. Even the ones that was being fake, like Lisa Barlow, she don't know, no, no, no, damn, me. You know, I've said, but she was being fake and nice. And so was Vicki being fake and nice and shit. But everybody showed love, you know what I'm saying? Because that's what they should have done. Because she is someone who has been very impactful as a housewife and for the housewives. And so, you know, it was good. The fans have missed her. It was good to see her back. I don't know what she thought they was going to do. She didn't need anything. She was going to get to the table. Bitch, go back. Get back. Go back. Go back. Go back. Go ahead and heal you with that bitch. No, you won't you here. Like, what did she think that was gonna say? Right. I was pretty confident that everybody was going to show so much love.

38:14And Nene leaks reappeared at this housewives shit to celebrate 20 years of the housewives. So I didn't for one second doubt the warm reception that she would get. It was so sweet because we learned that, you know, the leg, great, Greg leaks. And for you, Kyle and Nene would have double dates. And it was a nice. I probably went griefful times. But you know, I'm not the same. I gave it to you, but you're going to be. We want to show one photo. That's right. Hey, you know, it's all good. It's what they say. You know, but then Nene is there. She talks about how she misses the girls. Just talk about a burnable moment, which I want more

39:16former reality stars who are on the shows. He didn't want to talk about this. When she said I left the show, I had to. I found peace and I was good. But but in the midst of my peace, because these these girls nowadays ain't going to miss this. She said it was also hard to know. She'll go, yeah, yeah. Like they're always on me to show the show must go on. And it went on and that's that's a tough pill to swallow. And then Porsche mentioned leading for three years, finding her piece. And she never thought she'll go back to the show. So did you like that burnable moment with Nene? Just based on like, you know, the honesty that you do leave a situation. You sometimes you sometimes look he pissed the show went on. Hell yeah, you are, especially when millions of fucking dollars and know the right. If they are involved, yes, you'd be pissed to show going on. And they was both lying. Porsche didn't find peace. She found Simon and ain't nothing peaceful about Simon.

40:19And Nene ain't found peace. Nene didn't had sleepless nights because she miss being Nene mother fucking leaks like she was in forever since we know her. So they ain't found no peace. They just said that. And I love both of them. So they just they don't call me. Keep it the fuck real. You know what I'm saying. It's the truth man. All right, so Ray, I was supposed to get mother not lying tonight. I'm very angry because it's gonna be two other opinions. And I'm gonna have to sit through it. Okay. All right. What's that? Lord Jesus. Now, what thing I told you earlier, Dustin. I don't talk about his little sashes. Is that my territory? But what I will talk about is her producing skills. Yes sir. You know how I don't know too many women, Dustin. Besides Kenya more. Claudia Jordan.

41:20Sheree Witchfield. It comes as yet. Okay. Okay. But who's who's going to, let me just finish it, who's going to voluntarily break up an issue with Nene after she sat down and was like enjoying the girls. So Gisele was like, um, so let's get this mess started. Hey, Nene, so you ran it. Dustin, what's wrong with Gisele? Gisele Nene, you met with Karen and said that she should beat me up. What's up with that? And Nene said we've been drinking. She didn't mean no harm to it. Just talking shit. I'm sorry. Gisele. I be personally, Dustin. Y'all cannot make me hate Gisele. No. She said next to her. It did not give a fuck. Like, tell me that's breaking down. She don't care. She don't care.

42:20That also was a throw your dick on the table, Moe. Because Nene leeks is supposed to be the OG, OG's when it comes to the housewife. She's the one, and nobody's supposed to fuck with. She's known for being a world class Olympian level, arguer. You know what I'm saying? So like, she's not a role that many people want to take. Gisele, who some may say has headlined. You know what I'm saying? Her mother fucking franchise for the past what? 11, 12. This season 12 they're about to do, right? In Potomac. Yeah. She 12 seasons strong. Big dog over at Potomac. You ain't shaking her. Like she is one of the faces of Potomac. If not the face of Potomac, right? Because arguably you can say Karen. But. Yes, you can. You can. But Gisele was like, I don't give a fuck who you are. I'm running this shit over here. I'm running this shit over here with, I'm sorry about that. How you gonna fall through here?

43:21I'm running this shit over here. What must these ladies? I'll run my city. I'm gonna fuck about you and whoever you post to be. I'm checking you and I'm going to show you that I'm not afraid of you by saying what I'm about to say next. That's what that was. That was Gisele like, uh-huh. Don't get it twisted. I'm still brining. You know what I'm saying? You might be Neenie Leaks and that's cool down here in Atlanta and shit. But I'm Gisele Bryant and I'm at it just as much as you do. And that's why I'm gonna throw my dick on this table like this by checking you about some shit you said. And Neenie thinks she's slid going throw that we've both been drinking in there talking about Karen. You know Karen just as you know. I'm not being big with Potomac. That's that. First of all, this is why I love you. I was proud to be here. You think about shit that I don't even. This is just that first of all, okay. I may be a drag queen because I also played the role of you. I'm not the big thanks of role crawlers. Okay, but hey, it's my first time.

44:22We both do it through each other. That's right. You go wrong. We go wrong. We going bump top. Not that it made his offense. I don't think she even thought about that. That's because Gisele doesn't tell this moment. I promise you. Brody Cardi. No, you're not back. Right. Thank you, Brody. I did not even put. Yep. We both been drinking. I was like Neenie. Neenie. Yes. And I know Karen was like Neenie. I know Karen was mad too. So what's funny is, this was funny. So Karen, Brody, Daddy's work it. Okay. When you go here, you heard. I told you, Dustin. So here's the deal. Karen told you to my faith. Which is why I'm never mad at.

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49:29I said, Kevin, why not? She said, you could give these other girls a little fall for your shit, not me, as Sada laughing at me a kid that said, but you don't love you. For some reason, I'm not offended. It's almost like an honor that she checked you a little bit. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, Karen, you ain't getting me in, baby. I can't, look, look, I'm still going to ask because I do feel like ask until they say yes. Absolutely. What about Jazeel Carlos? Coming soon. But this season up at telemig is going to air soon and refresh your page. Okay, so that's okay. Control all the least. Okay. So Karen dusted. Now I'm trying to think about why she posted this after Ultimate Girl Trip Air last night.

50:33Four hours ago, dusted. She posted the video of her and Mimi on that Facebook night. She's there brought up and she, this is the best part. You are so good at this, Dusted. I didn't even think about this. She wrote the year. 2024. See? So that's how you know she called that drink and reference. See? See? Having a time with my girl at Nini Leaks and my team. That's the clarification. Moving on. Then she says, Dusted, after that, I was also out with my girl, Dorenda and Samantha Mamba. Thanks, Samantha. That's a random ride. I think we'll okay. Why the 2000 pop star? Right. I was like, what? Okay. What? I just caught that. Here she goes, Dusted. I was also out with my girl, Samantha Mamba and Dorenda Mettley.

51:35But apparently that portion of the evening was that nearly as convenient to the narrative, carry on. You're good at this, Dusted. I told you. I told you. You're not happy. I wouldn't be either if I was sobering, wanting me a drink and can't have one. Then I hear somebody talking shit about me being drunk back in the day. I'd have been mad as hell too. I'd be leaving me alone. Shit. I know Karen was mad as hell when she's seen that shit. So I, you know, hey. All right. Well, again, I don't know what to say because I actually am shot because I didn't beat that. That'd be fuck off. I did. It's really. It's really. Dusted Ross did. And so the Karen Hueger for posting what she was, and who she was with that faithful night. Okay. Samantha Mamba. It's like the reading boy George, right? Yeah.

52:38Just random like these two things don't belong with each other. Like so random. Yes. That's what it was giving. So here we are. It's a day of the alter ego party. This one comment got the girlies on social media rattle. And according to my timeline, I don't think Candace responded to this. But I'll keep refreshing just to make sure that Jamie you let me know you see it on your end. Oh, just get Candace got fired. Does El mentions Dustin? Yes, that Candace. I have a Zen Candace and she got fired. Yeah. And then people like I thought she could was the I caught that shade. Yeah. Yeah. Candace will probably wait and get her on her podcast. Undemesticated Candace has a dope ass podcast with Michael Arsano. Incredible author. You know, you've been on under you know, yeah. I know. I know. Yes, no.

53:39And I love Michael. I mean, that's my boy. I love Michael. Yes. And I love Candace. You know, Candace won me over over on the traders. Like over. The traders was what did it for me. I was like, yeah, I love this. But anyway, she or she will absolutely respond. Because Candace is not above going down in the mud with their ass. And she absolutely will respond to that. And I remember very clearly Candace saying that she elected not to return to the housewives, not that she was fired. And I know some people do be lying about saying they quit and wasn't fired or whatever. But I think Carlos, we were all pretty clear or of the understanding that Candace left on her own. Right? We weren't Carlos. Oh, wait. I didn't know you. I didn't know you was asking. So she got fired Carlos. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is not this is no. I'm not joking. I honestly did not know you was asking me as well.

54:40I was listening to you talk. I'm sorry. That's I was listening to you talk. This is fine. God. See. No, see. Oh, so damn, she got fired. I really thought. I never said I never said that. Candace said that she was like. Yes. Okay. On the record. No, Carlos. Okay. And this said. She left. She said that she knew. And this is me talking about what she said to me in my podcast. When she found out she was pregnant. She said on my podcast, she found out sometime during the reunion.

55:43And I'm not mistaken. And obviously we know the afterwards. Okay. So spoiler alert. God knows this. But after the reunion is when the network decides whether or not to bring that. She did say to me on my podcast that she knew she was pregnant at the reunion. But she didn't tell anybody. And based on the environment, she knew she could not return because she wanted to focus on his baby. She did say that. So Candace never said she got fired. Does that all say she got fired? I think your point. Candace has to not that she has to. I'm not going to say she has to. But Candace is going to well, in order for Candace to not have an outfit that she got fired, she has to say what happened. Now it turns out I know. I don't know anything. Well, even if she did get fired, right? Which I don't believe she did based on what she said. You know what I'm saying?

56:43But even if she did who gives a fuss, she's thrived there after. She did the traders. She's done. She has music projects that have come out. You know what I'm saying? She has undemesticated. Candace has been acting. She was in a series on all black. She's done things. She's a continued to work. And then she just signed a deal with what? CAA or something like that. She just got. Yeah, it's for representation. Yeah. So Candace is straight. She's I mean, she's going to do a continue to do other things. You know what I'm saying? So I don't really it's not like she was fired and left behind and forgotten about. So that really makes me think that Jazeal was just talking shit. She can't even get fired. And also think this what you said too. Listen, two things can be true, right? I think yes, there's tons of housewives who got fired that let the world. They let the world believe they quit. I think the most recent one is Amanda Francis from Beverly Hills. Why are you laughing?

57:48You know, I think look, Bravo. This is why I was going to give Bravo their tans. Bravo doesn't give a shit what they're to you spent. They don't. They're like, we don't care which which I think speaks volumes to them, right? Yep. Say what you want to say. I think the most recent example would be Amanda Francis, which the shady the reason I'm laughing is because of the shadiness of TMZ adding was they didn't have to they added in there. We were told she was not even asked to come back and it's like, well, damn. And then Amanda and our later says in a long pose in the middle of it, she chose to remove herself. And then after that, we see that Leah Remedy and Tracy Tudor are back. I'm not back on the show. Now I think all of us right doesn't like. Wow. It's great. You got fired.

58:48She got fired. Diana Jenkins got fired. Who else got fired? Amary Wiley got fired. But here's the thing with Diana Jenkins though. Mm-hmm. She needs to be fired. She's said never been hired. You should. I'm here. I liked her on this show. Right when she was on. I know you got you. You're just about that. I liked her on the show. The reason why I'm not sure about her firing is this. And I'm only basing this all with Andy Cohen said. Because he's another one who'd be like, you know, I just want to tell him. Give a shit. Mm-hmm. He says she was the one I got away. There's a bit of an end. Before. Yeah, all that stuff. Yeah. Okay, because let's be clear on this. I'm not saying what's been happening lately with these rumors. No, I feel like I'm like, there she gone. Okay. Right. It's sort of like. We both none of that. He said this. He said this Dustin maybe a year after she left. The reason why I do believe she quit Dustin is because Miss Fing, unless she had COVID,

59:48and did her reunion remote in Hawaii. And I said, girl, you have so much money. You probably don't need this. And that's fine. But my whole point is this. Whether or not any house fight gets fired, I think Dustin made the best point is, it's not about you quitting or being fired. It's about what you're doing with your life. Yeah. I was going to say, which I wanted to say, Candice Dillard Bassett. She is killing it. And why are you saying? Indoor Semen when she was on traders. She was, she was arguably the star trader. Yes. Yes. She was not entertaining when she left. Nope. I loaded off. How you want to frame it? Yeah. She has amazing singles. She has a lot going on in her life. And I think, regardless if she quit a got fired, this woman hasn't stopped. And she has a beautiful bundle of joy to- That's right. It doesn't matter. My thing is this, it doesn't fucking matter.

1:00:49No. Do I want her back on Potomac? Yes. But it doesn't matter. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Now, what does matter is Kyle checking rashly because when baby, I think Kyle can also, you know how we, you and I agree that Erica Jane can work on. Yeah. Kyle can go. Kyle can go on Potomac. She can handle Potomac for sure. Yeah. Erica's more Atlanta. Kyle's more Potomac. Okay. Dustin, did you people look, it was like this, Kyle wanted to smoke and was like, is that that girl? Is that that girl? That girl? Yep. That girl over there. What she, okay. She's an over there person. That's what Nini said. That's what Wendy says about her. I remember Kenya. But um, the way that she said, it started immediately and actually was being stanked. Let's be, let's call it what it is. When Ashley was over, Ashley had Ashley walked over there into the conversation with and added to

1:01:49because she knew what was up. And she was like, so I think you need to talk to some, there's a misunderstanding about some things that are ex-husband. And what Kyle say, there's actually still my husband. So I was like, oh, Kyle knows her way around in argument. She does. She does. She's been doing this shit long enough. She should. She can't sit even when she said, I'm a girl's girl. And I will talk to her to pick the back of her jacket. But I'm not going to. I'm not going to. It was so Potomacoded to be like, Kyle doesn't give a fuck. And I thought that was interesting. Obviously, Ashley apologizes. Blended on Stacy. Well, you know, Stacy kind of pushed me in to do it. And it's like, yes, thanks for the flashback we saw it. But Ashley, let's be clear. Like you said, she said, is I think it's been enough time or something.

1:02:49She said like there's been long enough or something like that. So you came blame Stacy for that. You knew what she was doing. And Ashley, you hot to try it anyway. And everybody knows it. So like, it's no surprise. She was being inappropriate. She was. Then we had the inappropriate Diane Sawyer. Iselle, the fact that does it, she had the microphone and kept it. She stayed in character. And I'm going to get that. The whole night. The whole night, standing character. She said, I know I'm Daniel Ross, but I want to be Diane Sawyer. Maybe Boba Waters, Oprah. Who knows? I'm just doing my job. And she talks to Heather Lisa. I'm sorry, Heather, Angie and Mary about what was going on with Lisa. And then after that, we saw the background, Heather and Lisa getting into it. And in that moment, it was strange to me because I felt completely sad

1:03:50for Lisa. Me too. Heather was tripping. It, well, we know why. Yeah, on that high mic, my mother, that Heather was tripping. And, and Heather tried to give it to Jezel a little bit because she saw when she went doing Jezel was questioning her, Heather was going to laugh and go, why? Don't, it's kind of hard to explain to her girl strip friends. But I was like, oh, Heather. I peed. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. Okay, Heather. Heather got it. So you have to think she won't none of Jezel for real. For a cause Jezel can't really go toe to toe with nobody verbally. But I think she can handle Heather. You know, I'm saying, I think there's some reads that will come off the dome. If you really wanted to. Yeah, remember Dustin, they did go to Thailand together. Season three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's familiar. You're right. You're absolutely right. Why Heather felt uncomfortable doing that to Jezel? Okay. You're absolutely right.

1:04:51I felt bad for Lisa because we saw her having so much fun. And then like that, she's getting into it without no cameras, which showed you how really was between her and Heather. And listen, I will go on the record saying, Heather is jealous that Lisa was chosen. Wanted to take Lisa off her game. Because Heather for the longest time was considered the face of Salt Lake City. She, I mean, they tried to usher her to do that. So for Lisa, far low to get the job, I promise you range. She's waiting. Big, there you go. Yeah. There you go. There you go. And I like that. Portia had her back at the end with like, you're going to leave Lisa alone now, bitch. Yeah, Portia did have her back, but sometimes you got to stay out of shit when you don't know what it's about, especially they shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You might have to stay out of that pool. Listen, P, we love you. You know what I'm saying? But you might want to stay up out of that snow.

1:05:51You know what I'm saying? Because some snowflakes don't play. Those women are ruthless in Salt Lake City. The season ain't good unless it was a devastating fucking reveal. And I was, somebody you ain't never going to talk to again for the rest of your life. That's the kind of sensationalized conflict they have over there in Salt Lake City. And Portia likes to hit people. So I don't think that that makes for a good, you know what I'm saying? I want Portia to stay out of that shit. Just be Lisa, Fetch your friend. You good. Stay out of that drama, Portia. Please. I agree, I agree, I agree. But no, listen, this episode lived up to the hype. But next week we get part two of Atlanta. Nini Lee's comes out. We get to see Kim, Shirei, Lisa Wu, and an assortment of other girls and dust it. That's going to be the one to recap. But great episode. I can't wait. Okay, can you give us a little tease of some of the arguments that you know happened that we don't know about you?

1:06:54Well, we know about Lisa and Nini. Candice versus Ashley happens. Really? Yes. I thought it would be Jazeel. It's not, it's Ashley. Yeah. And it was a, um, from what I've heard, it was a readathon. Oh, good. I can't wait. I'll listen. I like you and champion for Candice to come back. Please. That's the day she has a full life with her husband, her bundle of joy. But baby, no one gets Ashley rattled like Candice. Nobody. And girls the same height. And Candice has an advantage because she's smart. Candice is very articulate. Candice knows how to use language to her advantage in ways that are uniquely her own.

1:07:56And they never, because nobody on, I don't care what nobody says. And this is even when I, she wasn't even my favorite person on that show. Nobody, it could keep up with Candice when it come to that tongue. None of them. Candice would tear them, like tear them apart so quickly and so swiftly. So they could never really handle her tongue because she's so smart. Uh, right. I like seeing her win arguments on that show. Yes. That's the question. Sorry. You know what I'm saying? I want to be the same. I'm sorry. Look, sorry, not sorry. I agree with you. But Candice versus Ashley. And again, we'll see if it makes air because we never know what happens. But it, I, I, I, I heard it happened. And I'm okay. Okay. I heard a little good. Okay. So please, please, please, please air it. Please air it. So we want to see that. Uh, just like you will see Dustin and I tonight on Monday night live. Some of the time. Right. We have a day of hot topics.

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