Skip to content
TrackPodcasts
scienceSep 30, 202522:33pending

Variational Reasoning for Language Models

About this episode

🤗 Upvotes: 51 | cs.CL, cs.AI, cs.LG

Authors:
Xiangxin Zhou, Zichen Liu, Haonan Wang, Chao Du, Min Lin, Chongxuan Li, Liang Wang, Tianyu Pang

Title:
Variational Reasoning for Language Models

Arxiv:
http://arxiv.org/abs/2509.22637v1

Abstract:
We introduce a variational reasoning framework for language models that treats thinking traces as latent variables and optimizes them through variational inference. Starting from the evidence lower bound (ELBO), we extend it to a multi-trace objective for tighter bounds and propose a forward-KL formulation that stabilizes the training of the variational posterior. We further show that rejection sampling finetuning and binary-reward RL, including GRPO, can be interpreted as local forward-KL objectives, where an implicit weighting by model accuracy naturally arises from the derivation and reveals a previously unnoticed bias toward easier questions. We empirically validate our method on the Qwen 2.5 and Qwen 3 model families across a wide range of reasoning tasks. Overall, our work provides a principled probabilistic perspective that unifies variational inference with RL-style methods and yields stable objectives for improving the reasoning ability of language models. Our code is available at https://github.com/sail-sg/variational-reasoning.

Get every episode summarized

Each time Daily Paper Cast publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.

Email me new episodes

Free for 3 shows. No card needed.

No transcript yet

This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.

Variational Reasoning for Language Models

Daily Paper Cast

0:00
22:33

More episodes

More from Daily Paper Cast

View all episodes →