
About this episode
Columbia neurobiology professor Joseph Twilliger takes us behind the geopolitical curtain, offering rare insights from his experiences accompanying Dennis Rodman to North Korea and traveling across 100+ countries while speaking 10 languages.
The conversation begins with Kim Jong-un's recent diplomatic moves, particularly his trip to China amidst strengthening ties with Russia. Twilliger explains how Western sanctions have inadvertently created this alliance: "If you sanction everyone, you sanction no one." This pragmatic coalition demonstrates how excluded nations find mutual benefit despite lacking natural affinity.
Most revealing is Twilliger's analysis of North Korea's constitutional change abandoning reunification with South Korea. Rather than heightening tensions, he suggests this shift toward acknowledging two permanent Korean states could establish a Cold War-like stability on the peninsula. By removing unification language from the constitution and national anthem, North Korea signals a profound policy transformation that could lead to peaceful coexistence.
When discussing diplomatic engagement, Twilliger compares North Korean rhetoric to "professional wrestling talk" - deliberately exaggerated rather than literal threats. This perspective helps explain the unusual rapport between Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump. He argues that Trump's desire for a Nobel Peace Prize could incentivize significant concessions if negotiations resume.
The conversation extends to Venezuela, where Twilliger cautions against military intervention by explaining how economic hardship has paradoxically strengthened Maduro's support among the poor. Throughout, he emphasizes America's declining soft power: "We used to be pretty good at at least giving lip service to trying to win hearts and minds of people around the world. We really are terrible at that now."
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