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Uneasy Money: Why Peter Steinberger and Non-Crypto People Hate the Crypto Mob
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LayerZero’s Bryan Pellegrino joins to unpack Base's decision to leave the OP Stack, Zora's migration to Solana and more.
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Coinbase's Base is making a shock move away from Optimism's OP Stack.
In this Uneasy Money episode, LayerZero Labs CEO Bryan Pellegrino joins hosts Kain Warwick and Taylor Monahan to unpack whether this is the right move for Base and what it could mean for Optimism.
Beyond Base's big move, the trio also discuss Zora's Solana migration, whether Coinbase was wrong to initially pursue a super app strategy with Base App, Peter Steinberger joining OpenAI, the launch of Zero blockchain and OpenAI's EVMbench.
Will OpenAI's acqui-hiring of Peter prove to be a “generational fumble” for Anthropic? And can crypto fix its brand problem?
Also, learn why the rise of AI agents have Kain and Tay confident that open source will win in the end.
Hosts:
Kain Warwick, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix
Taylor Monahan, Security Expert
Guest:
Bryan Pellegrino, CEO of LayerZero Labs
Links:
Unchained:
Zora Shocks Base Community With Solana Pivot
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LayerZero Launches ‘Zero’ Layer 1 as Citadel, ARK Buy ZRO
How Zero Blockchain Cracked 2 Million TPS and Is Still Decentralized
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