UFO and alien disclosure is a central intel psyop - Matt Ehret | Jerm Warfare

0:30Dude, so you are like a wealth of knowledge. I think that sometimes all that knowledge just gets the better of you, doesn't it? I don't know. Sometimes if you mean do I speak too much and in bad undiplomatic moments that gets me in trouble? No. No. I mean, are you boring at a party? Oh. Because of the party, I guess. I try to have something to say after water cooler. Do you think aliens exist? Do I think that there is a lot we don't know in this big beautiful universe of ours that probably I would be surprised to find out that life has not emerged in other solar systems and possibly even cognitive life and possibly self-aware life maybe has emerged in different

1:34parts of our universe. There's billions of galaxies and each galaxy has billions of of suns and most of those suns have planets and god knows, you know. But I think that at this point, everything that we have been told about how to think about aliens is horseshit for lack of a better word. I'm sorry for the language for your younger audience members out there. I think we're being lied to pretty heavily about the story of ET's as far as how it's being promoted by our congressional investigations. The hearings on ET disclosure from the government and Hollywood films and most documentaries and books that we've been fed over the past 70 years, really since the opening of the Cold War, I think it's garbage. One of the problems that we have faced is that we have allowed, since the murder of John F. Kennedy, to, we've allowed for a death cult that's committed to reducing world

2:37population levels down to something much more so-called manageable, maybe less than a billion or so. We've permitted that ideology to come in in a big way into our Western society, which formally enjoyed a belief in technological and scientific progress and a general faith that we could, and it was natural to make life better for ourselves and our children and grandchildren by leaving something better behind by building big projects that were magnificent, you know, things like the new deal projects, the John F. Kennedy projects for electrification, building big infrastructure and having goals for the future. That also involved as John F. Kennedy had pointed out, a mandate to go to the stars and to go beyond the horizons of the unknown and always expand human economic influence into the universe more broadly, which was a big driving force that made him a lot of enemies and that after he died, you know, there was a systematic attack on all of those things

3:40that pushed us that was allowing us to make creative leaps outside of the limits of our existence, specifically the space program, as well as his investments and programs into nuclear power, fusion power, fusion propulsion, which was an offshoot of fusion energy programs that JFK had endorsed. All of these things were cut down by this Malthusian takeover of the U.S. establishments as well as Europe, more broadly, and the commonwealth, and what we saw is just the incapacitation of our ability to physically move beyond the limits of the earth. And as we did this to ourselves, we, I mean, like literally we fell into the trap and we started adapting to limits. We became more imperial and now we're like 50, 60 years into this insanity. And all that we have is an idea of what spaces is no longer optimistic. It's all based on that's the place where you go to get killed by aliens.

4:41The abyss where nobody can hear you scream and all of these CIA-funded Hollywood films have been shaping our collective dream, our collective psyche and zeitgeist about what is space typically is a bad thing, a scary thing. And it's I think done a lot of damage to create an environment mentally whereby a lot of narratives have been seeded that showcase that nefarious or benevolent alien beings have been actually colluding with our governments for many may decades and other things that are becoming more mainstream taught in universities and promoted even on mainstream science magazines and documentaries that are being pummeled into our face on top of the acceleration of Hollywood films that are also feeding into the same idea of, well, maybe the day that JFK was killed because he was trying to reveal the truth about aliens and that's why the CIA had to kill him because he was a security threat. And now is the time for the big reveal where our new alien overseers or gods who have been

5:46watching over us in the distance will now make, they're going to come out of the closet in a big disclosure operation. So that's sort of I think driving people nuts. So the UFO disclosure is a psychological operation is what you're saying. Why? I think that there's multiple levels of intention or effects that are all part of, there's multiple effects that are the outcomes of this operation that all play a role that we shouldn't try to get into the idea of like, is it this or is it this or is it this? Like, is it to create a distraction while we're looking away from let's say a reorganization of the world in a manner that might restore some form of techno-futalism or destructions of the lives of many people who otherwise could be saved if we were paying more attention including our own? Yeah, but I think part of it is a distraction. I think is it the question of, is it to create a new control mechanism for a new set of

6:51religions or a new revamping rebranding of religions that might, let's say, desire or might involve the overthrow of the conventional Abrahamic faiths in favor of a new revision of the sort of institutions, traditional institutions that have held sway for the past 2,000 years around the new idea of gods, in this case, ET gods, that might take the form of angels, where angels and demons once played a certain role in our psyche as being the supernatural influences, now maybe it'll be the aliens that are disembodied entities in some cases and some in other cases, and that's, so I think that there is an effort to create a new world religion, accommodated for different peoples, different psychies of different cultural groups around the world, who will be shown, perhaps using holograms, we have things like Project Bluebeam and other operations that have been revealed over the last 30 or 40 years,

7:56that have been pretty well developed, which can create persuasive imagery in the skies that a physical object that is actually a hologram is being seen, whether it takes the form of holograms of Jesus in the clouds that they've shown over the skies of Brazil and other South American countries, maybe it'll have a little bit of that twist for a slightly more Catholic audience, maybe it'll have a slightly more secular imagery for Asian audiences that are a bit more confusion in their mindset, who might see just images of cities over the skies of China as has been projected a couple of years back, just to give people a sense that maybe there are these other dimensions, and maybe for societies that are much more atheistic and shaped by Steven Spielberg movies, it might take the form of flying saucers and tic-tac objects in the skies that might be shown to us while at the same time our governments

9:00are working to present admissions of having worked with these aliens that perhaps landed, crash landed in Roswell and other places in New Mexico, usually around a military bases over 70 years ago, and that we've been colluding with receiving information from about how to build technology, maybe reverse engineering, their spacecraft, so a lot of things like that I think are being told, so I think that there's multiple reasons why this sort of thing happens. Also, I'd say possibly, you could say maybe to also psych out Russia and China to other other enemies of the United States, who might be told, hey, it's not us launching attacks against you, this is me speculating, right? It's not us in the West, it's not the US military industrial complex launching an attack on you, it must be these aliens who are launching an attack on you, it's not us, it's them, so maybe there's an element of that too, I can think of a number of reasons why this might be put forth. How far back does this saw up go?

10:06I think it goes in the form that it's taken in our current society, I think that the saw up goes back to the earliest days of the Cold War, when you had certain sightings over Washington that were made by a pilot who saw certain things that nobody else saw, but he saw them and he reported them. This happened about two weeks before Roswell, something happened when something crashed in Roswell, New Mexico, near a military base. You had, again, a report put forth that this was a flying saucer, a flying disc of some sort. Now, in the documentary series that I've done with my wife Cynthia, we've done four episodes of the Hidden Hand behind UFOs, where we go through the history and the evolution of this narrative, and we sort of pull apart these different stories. Is there actual evidence behind the idea that there was some sort of a flying saucer

11:09that landed, that crash landed in 1947 in June? There's evidence that something experimental did crash, but as we make the point, it probably had more to do with the ongoing secret science program that had been maintained even after World War II that took the form originally of the Manhattan project, and that continued on under a new form after World War II, though we were told the Manhattan project was ended. It was never ended. It simply metastasized like a hydra and took on a variety of different new forms, one of which being the Battle of the Mind MK Ultra that grew out the former Manhattan Project, the secret science program that develops LSD, DMT, a lot of the silocybons, and then started infusing that into the population as a whole, especially targeting the young baby boomers who had been born after 1945, but also another aspect was you know, you had weather modification programs also being developed using the same infrastructure of the Manhattan Project.

12:13Then another one involved a lot of the the hidden tech, the development of aerospace technologies by the Nazis and the Italians that had an advanced flying saucer program using alternative pathways to building flying machines that didn't involve a lot of the conventional technologies that we had been accustomed to in the West, specifically the works of Schaulberger, Victor Schaulberger, the Horton Brothers, and others that had been absorbed into Project Paperclip and into the US program. Is it possible that some of those early aircraft did crash as they were doing tests? Yeah, I think that that's a possible theory, but the point is early on Alan Delas and a number of social psychologists who were tied to Tabestock, the British psychological warfare bureau, basically, that still is very influential in the whole gender realignment of theories of the

13:17plaguing our Western society today. They were very active in shaping MK Ultra and shaping US intelligence and Alan Delas was directly interfacing with many of these psychiatrists. One psychologist as well who was playing a very big role in the crafting, the weaponization of the new legends around UFOs and UFO gods was Carl Jung who was an OSS operative who directly was interfacing and advising Alan Delas and wrote a book on flying saucers in modern myth as a manual for for psychological warfare against the population as a whole. So these these were things already early on in the 1940s that were already being used to replace the former enemy of Nazism with a new enemy as an organizational principle to accommodate also our fear of the Russians and the Chinese and the commies. There was this already being baked into the psyche as a lever of control and then new stories, new myths were were cooked in over many generations and it usually involves an occult network that is tied to a certain rose accrucian satanic agency that's also been baked

14:24into the US governing intelligence establishment that's been maintaining this thing as well. So that's something we also touch upon throughout our four episodes that we've made public so far. What's interesting about this whole alien narrative is that it's definitely a societal vulnerability because it's unknown and whenever something's unknown it's very easy to feed fear into that and humans have been thinking about this for thousands of years. So it seems like a great way to kind of control. Yes it does and it's well I think that the unknown is always a place where the oligarchy enjoys playing in that realm beyond the borderlands of knowledge. That's actually one of the early Theosophical journals and the Theosophists play a very big role, an organization that was hatched in the 1875 period by Badamblavatsky which had a number

15:31of major high level occultists. I think it's really the scientific and or the religious engineering institute of the British Empire that was created in order to capture the minds but really the souls of society after the US Civil War. Again 1875 and the magazine did two magazines. One was officially called Lucifer publishing. Basically it was designed to usher in the age of Aquarius, the age of Lucifer, the lightbringer, as a new age for mankind. That's the origins of a lot of the modern new age that has contaminated almost every aspect of our culture in different ways in our society. Both as far as shaping the mystical occult undertones of the right that influenced or that manifested itself in a certain way with national socialistic organization in the 20s and

16:3230s as well as the left Bolshevik radical left was also being influenced very much by these Theosophical networks. So they got all controlled sides of this dialectic over the last 150 years under their influence and that's a whole show on to itself. But the other thing on top of Lucifer was Borderlands and part of the idea was again like organizing their methods in order to control the liminal field that zone right between the conscious and subconscious, that little domain right before you wake up and there's that fuzzy in my dream and my awake moment. That's very serious for religious engineers. That's their domain where they swim in because that's the gateway or the gatekeepers who control that, the shamans, the storytellers that control the collective dream. Those are the positions where they can give meaning to the symbols that we are fed and that influence our subconscious. That was a big thing that influenced Carl Jung's entire purpose

17:37in life which was devoted to reviving nosticism as a replacement for the conventional Christian foundations of society which he was very open about in his own writings throughout his entire life was overthrown Christianity and restoring a more Luciferian idea of Christ as a baccadalian figure and a worshiping of hedonism as the new happiness. So, and I go through that in episode three of our documentary series. But yeah, the questions of like, well, what are these supernatural entities, these imps, these elves that different cultures have in their folklore? There's different folk tales throughout all of Europe and the Black Forest and Bohemian and everywhere of different creatures that will occasionally come in and steal your children that will that will make your wife disappear in the middle of the night that do rituals in the forests. And there have been, I think that part of what we these stories have are the effects of are the

18:42very real existence of a very tightly organized and yet loosely expressed movement of Black magic, of witch covens, of warlocks, of things that have been maintained continuously since the days of ancient Rome, even before Christianity emerged, there were these institutions of Black magic that will take on different clothes at different times but always have a common mandate that require certain very evil rituals to be done, some of which involve human sacrifice, some involve very bad things to children. And I think that a lot of more primitive peoples centuries ago didn't know how to describe these scary things and gave them labels. Like, again, pixies and fairies and elves and other things which have very, very, they're not as cute as they've been rebranded in our 20th century. There's some scary stories of what these things were and I think that the oligarchy enjoys

19:44coloring how we perceive these supernatural things on the off skirts or outskirts of known society and the consciousness. And I think that that's also a big thing that's been done in the UFO. rebranding thing today is that there's a big push for acknowledging, and again, this is using the narrative both of Carl Jung but also of Jacques Valle and Jail and Heineck, the advisor to Stephen Spielberg as well as somebody who was very influential in George Lucas's development. These were two gentlemen who have been playing a big role in crafting the the UFO disclosure movement and both of them have put forth back in the 1960s this idea that aliens are actually interdimensional. They're not from our dimension. They're from other dimensions and they could bounce in and out why they need technology like flying saucers to do that. I don't really know but they're basically saying that they're more

20:47there beings that have been with us this for since since the start of humankind that they probably created humankind. They're almost like a fairies. War of the world is another one yeah that H.U.L.'s put forth and yeah I mean a lot of this also follows the the program of yeah H.U.L.'s the leading eugenicist Fabian society leader who put forth the whole program of how to organize society around a fear of yeah the unknown of of extra terrestrials coming into attack us and all of his his films and where his books that became films largely push on the same moral of the story which is to nudge human beings towards this notion that unless we organize ourselves around one world government we won't be able to protect ourselves from these entities and it's because we don't have one world government and organization that we suffer from these entities and his non-fiction books also showcase I think the same mandate where all of his work on the new world order his work on the world brain the open conspiracy all informed the work of Jacques Valle and others you know

21:52decades later and continue to exert influence on the techno feudal reset that's being pushed and gained out right now by a lot of philosophically minded silicon valley billionaires who believe in a new drug driven religion because they also want to they have a certain type of set of rituals that they want us to adopt to accept this new new world religion that they're preparing which involves doing a lot of sacred drugs whether it's of the DMT the silo cyber variety and you'll find that the same institutions that were funding and organizing the UFO stories since 1947 were also simultaneously the same agencies funding the development and application and promotion of of drugs specifically of the silo cyber variety and also LSD to help us tap into and experience these angelic beings more directly and that involves Terrence McKenna and many others who are receiving the same funding from Lawrence Rockefeller the same Lawrence Rockefeller that is

22:54bankrolling Stephen Greer and you know Robert Bigelow and Linda Moltenhow that's the same yeah Robert Bigelow is Stephen grid isn't he doing the rounds he's he's been doing the rounds for a while yeah he he emerged out of the human potential foundation program that was an offshoot of Esselin which had received a massive amount of support and patronage by Lawrence Rockefeller he's part of Lawrence Rockefeller's famous ranch meeting in 1993 where the new acceleration of the disclosure operation was put into motion with the emergence of Bill Clinton and and Hillary into the White House who immediately started meeting with Lawrence Rockefeller people could see pictures of that and and Stephen Greer was given a certain mandate to play his role in shaping the the psyche of the the masses around this notion what his particular narrative was that the aliens are good benevolent beings that we could interface with through mass meditation groups usually meforests so basically set up a network of global cults that would do very theosophical things like

23:59you know collective vibrations and putting out good energy to receive or call forth invoke the emergence of our alien saviors other other figures like David Ike or also developed and deployed around that same time to play another another another narrative in that dialectic of course David Ike was pushing the notion that the alien overlords were actually evil lizard people sucking our fear energy but ultimately the the prescription of how to deal with the the either good or evil alien entities from another dimension lording over us is the same thing try to feel good put out good vibes try to avoid feeling bad that's that's how that's how to help your enemies is by feeling bad so try to feel good and like the idea of feelings became the the way everybody wants to feel good nobody wants to feel bad so that kind of appeals to add a revolutionary spin to that is a great way to hypnotize and pacify a big chunk of the population that could otherwise

25:05be doing something much more useful with their time as far as identifying the actual death cult satanical regard that wants to kill us instead of doing that we're you know we find ourselves absorbed you know in meditation groups try to you know yeah get just positive make make this thing just disappear through positive vibes which which is not good one of the things that you have researched is the link between the CIA and and Tom the longer I just I don't want to accept it are you book 182 fans yes they were a great band they were a fantastic pop punk band in the 90s in early 2000s and I don't want to I just don't want to accept that I don't want to accept that Tom was what was what's an intelligence mouthpiece Tom the Lange you know it's he should just

26:08suck what he was good at no yeah he he was it was a surprising one to see his two the stars academy which you know when you hear him speaking about the formation of this thing um it's it's it's kind of weird because you could see that he doesn't fully understand how he's being used or how he was being used I don't know if they still are using him as they were a few years ago I think maybe his he's clearly upon he's clearly not a thinker but he thinks he's a thinker and that's what makes it kind of sad because he you know he makes the point that he on all of his his road trips with his band he would spend all of his time reading uh UFO books and and UFO magazines and preparing himself and and he thought he was and he describes how he was so special it was made it was revealed to him when and members from the highest echelons of the US intelligence and military agencies and people from Lockheed Martin and the CIA began to contact him because they knew that I was special that I was I figured things out on my own that nobody was supposed to figure out and so they recruited me to be a part of the the the the new you know

27:14dispensation to prepare using creativity and to organize comic books and music videos and other things the psyche of the youth in order to to be receptive to what would be the big reveal in a few years and he's like because I'm so special and poor guy like he really thinks he's he's super smart and has no idea how he's being laughed at by people who clearly just want to use him because his ego ego does seem to be quite large and thus he can't self examine how something else might be going on that he doesn't understand but yeah he was selected to create this thing called the To the Stars Academy and I think in 2016 or 17 and one of the key figures who I think is the real force behind it was Harold Poutoff who's the co-founder of this thing and Poutoff gets us I think to something a little bit more at the at the causal nexus of this whole operation because he's the guy who was part of the the Lawrence Rockefeller Robert Bigelow National Institute for Discovery Science that emerged in 1993 out of that that meeting at the the Rockefeller Ranch I was talking

28:16about and he was also one of the key figures behind Project Stargate in the early 70s from the get go and he was a high level I think 7th 7th degree organizing a operating feet in all four feet in seven level it's is project Stargate the same Stargate that Trump has been promoting I think so I think it's I they they won't admit to a direct continuity but let me tell you I mean yes it's the same thing they say that the original Stargate ended in 1997 or 1998 and now this Stargate is a new Stargate no I think what do you what do you look at the the operating system the paradigm what's shaping the current Stargate and you compare it to the entire MO of the original Stargate including many of the players I think it's the same thing you just there's all surveillance it never really went away it's all surveillance and and it's done with a mystical twist like the original Stargate actually had as its mandate as a so it's a remote viewing project for those who don't know

29:24I think it was an outgrowth of MK Ultra after MK Ultra sort of no longer was able to maintain its character after 1974 75 when a lot of the nefarious operations of what the CIA was doing to human guinea pigs was made public it it took on a few different expressions in the 70s one of which I think was the Stanford Research Institute's so it's the Stanford Research Institute which is behind the original Stargate it the the SRI as they call it was directly being managed by a network of high priests at Esselin an organization set up by followers of Aldous Huxley and in digsburg california in 1961 and basically the idea was to use a lot of theosophical meditation techniques psychotropic drugs trauma-based mind control to organize clairvoyance super soldiers was the idea a lot of it focused on children because children are

30:29more malleable more easy to break more inclined to compartmentalize if you can get them young enough as Bertrand Russell said get the kid before their their ten you can control the man later on that's basically the Jesuit the Jesuit method um so they did a lot of damage to millions and millions of human guinea pigs one of the aspects of it involved the CIA operative whose name is escaping me all of a sudden who um who had visions when he was given an envelope of like and and told to use his clairvoyant remote viewing powers to see what's inside the envelope he had visions of Mars uh and with pyramids and big tall beings and obelisks and uh and inside the envelope the uh what he was describing was actually it said Mars one million years ago was and that was supposedly proof that that became also a Hollywood movie a decade later which is a very good Hollywood

31:31movie very well done um called stargate that we have been seated that our planet has been accessed by these gates these star gates from other beings that created you know Egyptian society and human society more broadly and that we can maybe access or tap into um using special highly powered super soldiers that have Jedi mind powers and can can can learn to cruise the astral planes um a big part of what Harold Putoff I mean the fact that it he was a high level scientist along with Ingo Swan and uh uh there's a number of of of followers of a figure who was self a self-proclaimed antichrist that's Elron Hubbard called himself the antichrist he was a follower of Alistair Crowley he was doing radical Babylon working sex magic rituals to usher in the antichrist with with Jack Parsons in uh deserts of of Mexico or is it is it Arizona anyway um that was absolutely what Elron Hubbard was doing before uh he created his new UFO

32:39religion and a lot of these initiates who would go through the degrees of initiation to rise very high find themselves over the years playing very big roles within the US security intelligence apparatus not the least of which was Harold Putoff so the fact that you have these guys dealing with again something that you see with Stargate as being a surveillance operation but also that involves things like Oracle AI and the very notion of the Oracle isn't just simply a technology innovation or a company that's tied to Larry Ellison as a purely tech company the Oracle concept itself is a direct symbol of the ancient oracles that controlled the the world under a high priesthood in ancient ancient Roman ancient Greek ancient Etruscan periods um which I mean everybody everybody had to pay homage if you were a king or a general you had to pay homage to the high priests of the Oracle at Delphi the pithian Oracle of Apollo you know that had different cibles around the world in Libya and in Egypt in all over Rome and these were the control mechanisms

33:46that would tell kings and generals to go to war to make peace or to allow to sanction a new cult or to abolish an existing movement let's say the Christians that had to be destroyed under the the mandate of the high priest that would interpret what the Oracle was doing so this is sort of the this is at the foundation of the necromancers that would be special people especially endowed going back to the the ancient times all the way throughout the the next 2000 years of our human history mediums who would channel the dead who would channel demons or other beings that also have contaminated many Christian movements today who you know many Christians might have experienced um weird people like people talking in tongues and channeling the Holy Spirit in a weird way that's kind of freaky or you know we've got channelers who are brought up to to channel in collective prayers archangel Michael who want to tell the congregations what to think and what to feel as a channeler all the stuff is different aspects of the same type of control mechanism

34:50that I think they they've been reviving with project stargate now but now what levers fully fully under essentialized command of a new silicon valley transhumanist high priesthood that is tied to the UFOs yeah so what's interesting here is that you're talking about how the whole UFO narrative um is more effective when it's centralized uh and so that was part of a strategy a long time ago which suggests to me Matt that MK Ultra is still very much alive I think so I mean I it's not called that anymore like I said I think it metastasized but I believe that uh it didn't go away and I think that a lot of the you see the there's something that DeGaida really happened after 1972 right was the as the Vietnam War was petering out is you had a mass expansion of cults whether jones town some young boon you know in the moonies um different offshoots of the uh

35:52the the auto template orientus the solar lodge which was carrying out mass atrocities on children different offshoots of the Manson family as well which didn't go away um what you'll find it or the process church of final judgment as a satanic luciferous a satanic cult big you know that originated as a as a spinoff from the Scientologists in the early 60s and that had big big influence um in New York and California and the Hollywood crowd a lot of these things didn't go away they they just continued to manage and create more different cults with different flavors all over the United States especially but but also in Canada and Europe and I think that a lot of that when you when you start scratching on the surface of these cults you start seeing the influence of intelligence agencies behind the scenes managing protecting and grooming them and occasionally eliminating them as in the case of of the Jim Jones story uh when when they're no longer useful or let's say people start looking into them from congress um a little bit too much

36:55and you know what what's going on behind the surface appearance that involves also narco trafficking um as well as just you know using human beings little social groups as laboratories to see what you can do and get away with on a on a on a scaled up level and I think that's one of the aspects of the usefulness of these cults is their little laboratories partially incubators to see what what can people adapt to in a in a in a in a small scale that could then be um scaled up to national levels or entire human uh social groups on a much much broader scale of millions or billions of people so I think that's another aspect of what they do and what mculture was was morphed into from the 70s onward but I mean you got this multi-pronged approach which as you pointed out uh seems to be quite pervasive in the five eyes but even you know China has fallen gong which believes in aliens that's right yeah most people don't know that uh but that's that's

38:01very true and yeah Lee Hong Ji is himself a self-professed intergalactic Messiah who promotes and has been open open about this though they won't let him speak publicly as much now as they used to in 1999 there's a famous time magazine interview where Lee Hong Ji talks about how his particular role in protecting humanity and keeping the forces and balance between the good and the evil aliens super beings that uh only he is capable of keeping the balance and and that he also professes to have the stargate powers of astral projection of of all omniscience where he could see everything by projecting his astral body anywhere he wants it to go and he can read the minds of his followers in his cults he can he can project levitate heal them from afar just by thinking about them and it creates a psychological control grade in the minds of people who really really get initiated into what seems to be something that is kind of like an Asian version of Scientology that does seem to have like a nice opening appearance to welcome in anybody into a meditation group

39:06doing very nice chigong exercises and before you know it if you've got a certain psychological profile and an ambition of thirst you might find yourself invited to be challenged to the next degree of knowledge about what's actually causing your your depression your your other issues just like they do in Scientology of course again it's it's calibrated for a slightly more Asian psych profile but it attracts many Westerners as well as as we all know and and before you know it at certain points we discover or initiates discover along the way that the that the cause of their problems is actually foreign alien entities that are living inside of them that they can only shed by virtue of doing these these the specific type of of meditation exercise innovated by master Lee Hongji and nobody else nobody else has touched into the source of shedding these these foreign entities the way he has or the way Eloran Hubbard had it using his more technologically and basically it's a lie detector test where you just hold onto two two different

40:09you know a like electrode probes that that can then you know be influenced by your emotional tones that helped you understand how you have been infested by these foreign alien entities from another galaxy you know launched into the earth area by Xenu this ancient overlord evil nostic alien that is caught is causing all of your problems and once you fully shed and you've gone through your degrees of initiation now you can self actualize and realize that you are God it's very fully making that sense you can make your own reality however it might be in China but the same players of behind the scenes I mean you have the NED who is one of the big financial backers of Falun Gong it's so interesting a lot sort of I'm saying right and the NED is a front for the CIA so anywhere you look at these calls they you will find intelligence agencies trying to however is done just a much better job than we have at at identifying this technique and expel expeling as much as they can it's been quite

41:13incredible to see their performance in preventatively stopping these agencies from taking on deeper roots into the Chinese world they were they were kicked out very early on and masterly Hong Ji was forced to you know to be to basically leave China but where did he go he went to New York where he was granted a 430 acre estate in the state of New York it's a luxurious state where it's a major compound highly secretive and where a massive brainwashing operation is organized again under the protection of the CIA in order to continue asymmetrical warfare cultural warfare against the Chinese especially focusing on trying to brainwash and influence the minds of young Chinese expatriates who live abroad in Europe in England in Australia in Canada USA and they put a lot of effort into trying to create as many Chinese people who believe that what masterly Hong Ji says because he is a sect he's essentially a co-equivalent in many ways

42:15to God it's a it's a very pagan thing and and so if he says you know the Chinese just the Chinese government are run by evil aliens that's part of his his narrative that he tells to his followers and you can see his his transcripts of his teachings on his website that his his view is that the Chinese are in are actually the the physical manifestation the the the weapon used by the evil species of aliens that want to suckle on the vital fluids the the organs of the tasty Falun Gong specifically because through doing his meditation exercises our organs evolve into more golden section proportions and that's what the the evil aliens love sucking on and and using and yet the USA which is where he is well we also in the USA he says have alien overlords but they're they're more benevolent they're less evil and so we're working with them and so that's the type of

43:15weird cosmology that even the Scientologists also promote at the end of the day not that different and again China's not a much better job at nipping that in the butt yes and then you have you know politician like Harry Reid who took as you pointed out 22 million dollars from taxpayers into quote unquote UFO research so what then was UFO research well yeah and that was the the advanced aerospace identification program that from as a as a sub department within the Pentagon the Harry speaker of the house had approved as you pointed out the creation of and I think that's the the thing you know like Harry Reid was a patron of Robert Bigelow he also received a lot of money from Robert Bigelow the air you know the one of the the figures who has been at the at the forefront of the new space movement the the new space movement was something concocted to promote the idea

44:18that we could get rid of NASA ultimately as an outdated you know nationalistic entity and replace the idea of space research with basically Silicon Valley billionaires so we'll have Jeff Bezos and Branson and Elon Musk as being and and Robert Bigelow was a real estate billionaire real estate magnet who just has a lot they have a lot of money and they will be the ones who now control the science the R&D and the application of said R&D into new tech that would then get contracts from governments of the world in order to do the space program stuff that that NASA used to do that the US government nationally used to be responsible for so we'll get rid of the nation state we'll have these things and Robert Bigelow was I mean he was also the patron of he advanced the the parapsychology operations to try to like monetize arguments that could be made for scientifically investigating you know reincarnation or how the soul imprints itself into an ether and then we

45:25can investigate how that works so that we can maybe talk to dead people and and channel the dead through new technology so he's got he's part of that whole operation which he was simultaneously promoting as part of his his bankrolling of the advanced aerospace identification program that David Grush and Louise Elizondo Louise Elizondo by the way is a counter terrorism operative as well who was known as one of the most brutal torturers of of Guantanamo Bay you know and Louise Elizondo is his whole family comes back to being assets his father was a was this was a Cuban mercenary who was part of the CIA operation to overthrow Castro and that JFK had had quashed back in the 60s so you know you've got these these individuals and again he was I think there was even a story where he there was a couple of European governments that had even

46:26had a had a had a had a warrant out for his arrest for the abuses the criminal abuses he he carried out in Guantanamo Bay and now all of a sudden this guy is working with you know Tom the launch and and Hal Putoff and company in promoting UFO disclosure I don't buy any of that I think I think it's all it's all tied to the giant sigh up it's it's all it's all ugly what role do other intelligence agencies play like Mossad and MI6 and even on Russia side it's more difficult for me to see I'm not seeing as much on the Russian side though I'm sure there are nefarious actors clearly I mean the the Russian psyche is very susceptible to the belief in ET's and ET gods there's a there's a deep mysticism although it it doesn't take the same form as it does in a in a US

47:29audience base there sometimes it has a bit more it's it's it's more integrated with an orthodox Christian worldview that also allows for an alien aspect to the narrative but you you do have a problem there and I'm sure that it wouldn't be possible to have that level of popularity for ET's and and theosophical thinking if it weren't being protected by certain agencies with influence within Russian intelligence but I don't know what they are MI6 definitely I mean that was early on you know even after project blue book or during the time of project blue book you had Lord Louis Mountbatten who was interfacing directly with British intelligence at creating the flying saucer working party back in 1949 50 51 that organized really I think that was the first officially recognized national investigation of flying saucers that had as its mandate the

48:32the brainwashing of military intelligence officers first and foremost so as it's a multi-phase operation before you could generally get to the population you had to get to the the military the military intelligence serve as the protection the first you know major protection the guardians of a society so you have to first destroy the mines and and discernment faculties of military intelligence patriots so that was the first wave of what brought the project blue book as well as the flying saucer working party overseen also by by Sir Henry Tizzard who was a major player in creating the Manhattan project he was the head the top scientist who controlled the British Empire's science policy back in before and during World War II and afterwards he immediately went to work as his new assignment of overseeing the UFO sia under the the influence of Lord Mountbatten which I go through an episode three of the hidden hand behind UFO series and yeah

49:35MI6 you'll find them kind of everywhere behind you know the growth of crop circles there's MI6 has played a role in in introducing the crop circle mythos which all of a sudden it's like there is no crop circles by and large for millennia and then all of a sudden in 1971 you start seeing crop circles in England first and then quick and usually near military bases but but usually but in England specifically in cornfield in cornfields and and wheat fields and then all of a sudden in the United States and all but nobody else is reporting these things elsewhere in Asia and Africa and South America and Russia like nobody's reporting these things except England first and then the USA it's just like these these crash sites they always happen around American military bases or British military bases but nowhere else in the world that we seem to have reports of these things which is like conspicuous so yeah now I think there's a collusion I mean how put off was also very high up in the NSA as well as the CIA and the NSA being the American branch of the five

50:36eyes so it's it's difficult to discern because there's so much overlap with many of these intelligence agencies so I tend not to get into the into the weeds too much on that front I try to just focus on what I can definitely wrap my mind around and and some of the stuff in the in the back in the back rooms I don't I don't know how to think about some of the details the thing that always makes me laugh though Matt is this is a bit of a segue but it's always crash sites I mean these aliens are supposedly so advanced right but they come yeah and they crash well on the on the crash landing thing it is it is hilarious just yeah just just quickly on the landing thing um that is the people really need to sit on that I think the the paradox is so thick and we often just rush it away too easily but it's like if we're being told that these are that's such a culture so advanced that can produce technologies that allow the flight of of these beings from other star systems or other

51:38galaxies that must necessitate moving beyond the speed of light that's advanced technology that's a very advanced culture that can produce that or inversely bouncing in and out of galaxies if you've got a technology that can allow you to jump from one dimension into another inter-dimensionally that means that it's very hard to believe that they didn't they don't know how to avoid crashing into windmills and like sand dunes once they arrive on the earth and it's not just the one case of Roswell that's the singular case of an alien supposedly that's that's crashed they have they have dozens and dozens I think back in 2003 or something the CIA admitted somehow that they that that oh no not 2003 the 2023 the CIA admitted that since 2003 something like nine other UFOs have crashed this the CIA openly coming out saying this that nine have crashed between

52:392003 to 2023 over 20 years all along like the absurdity that they just can't fly with a crash though they're so advanced it blows my mind that people still buy this and don't don't laugh at it more readily um because it is it's a it's a friggin joke it's really bad or or adversely that that humans uh f-16 jets can fight these things do you think the Apollo missions were part of the slyup yeah it's possible I mean the the choice of naming in the Apollo missions already has a certain you know a cult there's a certain a cult undertone as I mentioned the oracle of of Apollo at Delphi was one of the dominant oracles that controlled the ancient world probably you know the the oracle concept being a very big part also of the AI the artificial intelligence cult that's also been incubated to converge on the UFO narrative as two sides of the same thing um that's clearly being pushed by the same operatives as well to be part of a new religion

53:43where people are starting to think that the AI is actually um the embodiment of a dys-afformally disembodied entity some Luciferian antichrist concept or whatever that peer feel has been even promoting that it that is now finding physical expression that when we're talking to the AI maybe we're not talking to um a large language model at all maybe we're not talking to that maybe we're actually talking to demons that are helping us compose our stories or our music or whatever so that's what younger people are being fed and you can only imagine what young people who don't have this knowledge and are being fed all of these stories are we'll think when they're 40 when they're 50 when they're 60 after having more and more layers of this being just reconfirmed as part of thinking that maybe they're dealing with alien demons expressing themselves through this AI robotics sort of thing which can only thus replace us if we don't integrate with it maybe brain chips and other things um remind me of your specific question because that was a weird segue that that we're supposed to answer a specific question that you just had no no I was just asking

54:47if you thought the Apollo missions were part of the UFO style right yeah that was that was those my weird I fell off into my my speculation there um yeah now I'm open to that possibility I think that JFK had a much more noble idea of what the US space program could do and what what what it was capable of to trans help humanity transcend out of this mannequin cold war ethos of mutual assured destruction which I think was wonderful also many of those players tied to Robert Bigelow and and help put off and Lawrence Rockefeller just to say as people will find in my documentaries especially episode three and four played a direct role in killing JFK and covering up his murder and creating new stories after he died uh about what his murder was all about a huge amount of these figures are tied to that that assassination operation I think that what it became after he died was likely did seem to be very influenced by many occult agencies that um probably did sabotage

55:49from the get go um whether or not the actual story we've been told about the meant the moon landings was real or not I don't think I think we've been lied to quite a bit about those things especially the first moon landing that I I've seen enough persuasive evidence that I don't think that that was actually a real thing maybe maybe the other moon landings might have been real we'll find out apparently you know China and Russia have a pretty big commitment to uh industrialize the moon instead of space bases and and Putin has made the point that one of the first priorities that they're going to have when they get there is they're going to go to the original landing site um of the Armstrong Buzz Aldrin landing site and they're going to just confirm whether they're actually our footprints there in a flag there or not I'm curious to see what they come up with we won't have long to wait barring world war three getting the way um so we'll see but um yeah probably I think his enemies probably took control of the levers of NASA and ran it into the ground

56:53on top of destroying it from the outside and from within at the same time every 51 is a gold mine I mean what role does it play in UFO disclosure well it's it's it's part of the the the ongoing Manhattan project operation that was I think testing out a lot of the those those technologies acquired by the Germans after world war two um a lot of aviation tech was was cultivated there um in secret as during the Cold War the Cold War was it was it provided a good excuse of justified secrecy um in science and so it was very convenient and with again as you as we were talking about earlier that mystique the unknown uh was became fertile soil to create creative narratives to tell people what they were seeing especially people living around raw as well or living around the area 51 airbase or these other experimental airbit the right patterns in airbase there would be forcibly be civilians who

57:58would occasionally at night see things flying that they couldn't understand I have personally also seen things flying at night that I couldn't understand that had uh you know uh trajectories that defied being simply a satellite that had like a 45 degree change in uh in orientation at night moving very quickly was it a drone I mean that's this is where a lot of the experimental drones were developed decades before they were the the public technology was unveiled in the early 90s decades before that it had already been developed quite a bit in these airbases um what were people seeing right what and and so either the the the CIA and the US government could admit that there was the secret science program or they could create stories that could you know satisfy the empirical information that people were seeing or that unvetted um air force officers were seeing when they're flying their planes and they were looking out a window and they would see something strange flying was it was it an advanced drone being developed or was it uh an alien tech and if they weren't they

59:04didn't have security clearance to understand what it was they would simply land they would debrief their superior and they would be told to shut up you know you're not allowed to talk about it well that type of that type of atmosphere creates a lot of speculation and then you can increasingly incubate you know using that technique over years and years more um paranoid members within military intelligence who really do get into the x-files mentality and they really do start making an identity or shaping their identity around the fact that they're special because they've seen something that might be almost spiritual in nature because if aliens have been here and they're so advanced that they can arrive here and and have been here for thousands or millions of years maybe they seated in created humanity maybe that is our god right it it does satisfy this this spiritual hole that we all have to try to know why why we are what is the purpose of life what is what happens after death and this kind of satisfies that that that spiritual vacuum and so it becomes a big

1:00:10organizational principle in the identities of people who then play into like you know the conspiracy because it's so big it's so magnificent it's so important it's more important than anything that they would even justify doing a lot of evil in order to advance this great good that they think is is a part of this their mission in life so that's I think part of how the brainwashing happens and has been going on for for a very long time but then how do you discern between the salt and real disclosure well I think that's a great question your questions are very simple and good I like that I think that it requires it requires I think a a certain responsibility to not be sloppy with our thinking and to try to know as much as is knowable to a thinking mind capable of using god-given reason without skipping steps and people often want easy answer to things to avoid

1:01:15doing mind work because it's hard and it makes them tired or they they lack confidence themselves so they'd rather AI tell them what to think about a topic instead of doing the work on you know themselves to think something through and it becomes a bit of a pigmailing effect will be we become we we gain a false hubris when we get addicted to right answers without knowing what the proper question was we we we get we start getting used to using lazy reason which is a type of false it's lazy reason is basically just jumping to conclusions before you appreciate the nuance of a topic you're trying to understand and so you want to have the satisfaction of the aha I know the answer but it's like you didn't earn that answer you don't you didn't investigate properly the full spectrum of data in front of you you just jump to something easy um so I think to the degree that we do that

1:02:18we are always going to be susceptible to lies and the way to inoculate yourself from lies and the lying liars who tell those lies um is to earn knowledge that internally like we subjectively learn make discoveries that we can build upon of the objective external reality that exists independent of us but we can you know when we make real discoveries the the subjective and the objective kind of like integrate in those special ways that creates an internal standard a moral and intellectual standard that we can then use as a litmus or a to to measure um fallacious arguments against and for those arguments that were presented which conform to the discoveries we've already made we can take them more seriously and treat them with respect you know and then for those that fail the test we can call bullshit and move forward and just I think a lot of people are are mistrained um they've been they've been they've adapted to an unnatural educational and cultural

1:03:20society you know or a weaponized cultural and educational um environments that that groomed us in the shape bad behavior bad habits and so we're more susceptible than we should be if we were the best part of ourselves so that's what I would say is just think for yourself and don't let AI think for you people could go to um either my sub-stack which is Matthew eret.substack.com I put out things mostly for free every day um our videos that I've done with my wife and our our collaborators Jason doll and David Gosling who are two fantastic filmmaking colleagues um most of those films are freely and readily available um yeah they don't have paywalls right now they're we've made them all free including our UFO series which is on uh Canadian Patriot.org also our books on the uh the revenge of the mystery cults trilogy and my wife's books and my my clash the two maricose series all of those books are available on on the Canadian Patriot.org you can

1:04:24find by the books all over the place and finally rising tide foundation dot net is a more educational cultural platform I created and run with my wife and we host seminars and conferences and lectures on a weekly basis there so you can check those those things out