UAP EP 227 China's Hidden UFO History part 2

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1:07Alright, let's do this. Welcome back into UAP. Steve Indien or Back with you here, as always, on the unidentified alien podcaster episode number 227 for this part 2 of our China series, the hidden history of UFOs in China. This was one that I'm really looking forward to presenting here today, and it was a series that I was looking forward to producing and presenting because I've been compiling the notes for like the past three or four weeks and I was very happy to finally be able to sit down and put this all together into this two-part series. And now to bring you part 2 today of this, you know, hidden history of UFOs within China. And they've been going off for a very long time as you're about to find out here today in this part 2. And we remember in part 1 of this series where we spoke about more of like, you know, the modern day history, the big UFO flap of 2010 of all the sightings on the airports, shutting things down, sighting some up in the sky

2:12and airplanes and on the ground from witnesses. So all these different things that we presented, plus the researcher, which I still thought was so cool, Wang Steachow, who talked about, you know, this was all real. And apparently nobody was paying attention, but he said it that this was all real and back in 2010 that UFOs are real, aliens are real, they're visiting, they see them all the time at the Purple Mountain Observatory in China. So really enjoyed getting that one together for part 1. And this one, I think you're also going to enjoy because it kind of gives it the twist now, is we'll look back to ancient history. We connected to modern day reports and then we'll finish off with what I think is one of the most incredible, fantastical modern day abduction reports I've ever heard in the history of doing this show. That's how we'll finish this one off today. But to start off, we continue to look into China's hidden past with UFOs. We have to go back much further than

3:12we may realize as we look into the ancient history aspect with this, starting with 1000 years ago. That's when early Chinese scholars and record keepers were documenting strange sites in the sky. And yes, at this point, they refer to them as glowing orbs. They were seeing the same things a thousand years ago that we talk about nowadays, these glowing orbs in the sky. That's what they were describing in their writings a thousand years ago. Imagine that. It really is a sobering reminder that the UAP phenomenon is, it's nothing new. I know you said that here before, but this this episode will really lend to that perspective. It's nothing new. We think about it in terms of our everyday life and of government disclosure and of whistleblowers, but these things have been happening for a really long time. It's more of an ancient truth than it is a modern day phenomenon. And at one such case, in the year 1060, a well-respected man named Shen Cao, he described his repeated

4:19sightings of something that he referred to as the glowing pearl. Now, of course, they called it a pearl. We call it an orb. I think we kind of get the idea that we're talking about the same thing when we're talking about pearls and orbs, same shape. Okay. Now, the event happened as Shen Cao described how this glowing pearl would often appear in kind of like, you know, overcast type of gloomy weather. And this is interesting here because this reminds me of reports we hear about with USOs. You know, Timberchette talks about these underwater UFOs a lot. These unidentified submerged objects because in this writing from a thousand years ago, Shen Cao talks about these glowing pearls that would move between bodies of water like different marshes and different lakes. Other witnesses, including a friend of his who lived by the lake, reported to Shen Cao who wrote

5:20this in his writings as seen an object that was round with golden or a gold colored ring around it, which was pretty odd. And at times, he said that it appeared to open doors as they described it. They said, and from this opening with whatever was opening, whatever they were seeing reportedly, they would see like some type of golden light that would come out shining out of this golden pearl, this orb. And then they would see a full opening of the entire thing that would reveal a large, what they call a fist-sized luminous object inside. So what would that be? I have no idea, but this is what they wrote. And I really can't even speculate as to what they were seeing at that point, but this is in the writings from a thousand years ago. It can't make this up. They said that also about the light. It was described as kind of like a silver, white, or golden as

6:24they've been saying here, a type of light, but they said it was intense enough to be blinding. Like you couldn't even really keep your eyes on it. It would hurt their eyes. And it was so bright that it would be capable of illuminating all of the trees around them. And the surrounding landscape, according to Shengkau, it would do this for up to 10 miles. Think about that. Think about how bright this would have to be to illuminate a surrounding area for up to 10 miles. He likened it to the rising sun in his writings. They said it would cast shadows. And they would describe it as like a lightning from the sky. And it would act as if it was daytime. Now also very much worth noting here with this is that the orb, or I guess like we said the pearl as they called it at that time. This is very interesting. They reported it as accelerating and very high speeds. And think about this. This sounds like something that you would hear from witness today. This sounds like

7:25something that we would hear from a witness in a congressional testimony glowing orbs, moving in strange ways, having these bright lights going in and out of the water. How many times do we talk about that now? It transmits medium craft. They didn't have the term transmits medium a thousand years ago in these ancient Chinese writings. But this is what we're talking about. We're talking about the same modern day sightings that we see today of transmitting the orbs moving at high speeds that glow with a bright light. We see them now. They saw them then. It's really compelling to think about. So to put it together, of course, you know, how would this end? They said that as the light would fade, it would then take off at that tremendous speed that we're talking about, accelerate at very high speeds. And they would describe it while it was on the lake that would kind of float on the surface of the lake, like the setting sun. And then it would just vanish. So is it going up and vanishing? Is it going down into the water and vanishing?

8:26And they said its ability to move between different lakes would make it unpredictable. Yet, they were still able to trace when the appearances would happen because believe it or not, this was a recurring event that would take place according to the writings of Shen Cao. This was an event that took place over the period of more than a decade. This was like a known thing back in ancient China, back in 1060, where this would be something that people would actually know was going on. And they would go to see it because they knew when it would come. In fact, the local residents, they would see it repeatedly and they even built a pavilion. Listen to like this is crazy. They built a pavilion called the Pearl Pavilion. This was in a Fenliang Yang Zhu, the province there, where travelers would come to await its appearance. They knew that's where it would show up. They knew when it would come because it became so predictable after

9:27a while. Like we said, more than 10 years, this thing would show up that they actually built a viewing area. They built a viewing area to come and see this thing. Imagine that. It was just normal every day life that this unexplainable and explicable golden pearl would be coming in and out of the water, accelerating and incredible speeds. People wanted to come see it. This is in the writings. It's there. Now, the event itself has been cited by a lot of researchers over the years. They call it one of the most credible ancient Chinese accounts of what of course resembles what we describe today as a UFO. Because of Shen Cao's reputation, because he was known at the time, which is why a lot of people, if you're into Chinese culture and ancient Chinese writings, someone like Shen Cao would be somebody that you're very familiar with because he was a very esteemed person back then. He had a reputation for being very meticulous. He wouldn't exaggerate. He's not a guy that was using

10:27hyperbole a thousand years ago in his writings. He was very conscientious about what he was writing as he was recording natural phenomenon. He was a guy that would go out and write down what he was seeing for the historical record. So he did that here. And he wrote about how in this society, for more than 10 years, they accepted this as a fact. The glowing pearl would show up and people would come see it. It's incredible. It really is incredible. I mean, you think about that now, you know, there would be stories on TikTok and videos and everything like that on Instagram and Twitter and people would be putting things up on YouTube and we would be arguing with each other like, oh, is this real? The glowing pearl. It's AI. It's Photoshopped. It's this. It's that. But you can't say that a thousand years ago. They accepted it for what it was. It's fascinating. And if that wasn't good enough, this event from 1071 is also worth noting because it lives amongst,

11:28by the way, this is important to note, these stories, I'm highlighting just a few stories here today, okay? But these stories live amongst the vast ancient accounts of UFOs. These aren't one-offs. These are things that were being seen a lot and there's a lot of different ancient accounts about UFOs in China. I just kind of cherry picked the ones that I really wanted to talk about here today, but these live amongst many, many sightings. But this one in 1071, I really wanted to mention because as we move on here, this sighting was recorded on November 3rd by a well-known and at this time, a respected poet named Su Dongpo. And much like the 1060 glowing pearl, that incident, in this incident, 11 years later, which is interesting because if you kind of compare it, now that I think about this, and I didn't think about this before, I started, but we're talking about, if I kind of just interrupt myself here real quick, I'll tell myself to hold that thought. If we think

12:32about the time frame that we were just mentioning, this 1060 retelling of the glowing pearl and how it's lasts for more than a decade, well, if we're going more than a decade from 1060, then that runs into 1071. Now, I can't say that's what this is for sure. Are we talking about the writings were then written down in 1060 after the incidents stopped with the glowing pearl or was it going on at the same time? My impression is that the writer here is Shen Cao of the glowing pearl incident. He was taking these notes as they were happening in 1060 and further down the road. So, according to my understanding and just the telling of the story, it looks like it began in 1060, which if that's the case, it does run into this next story about 1071. So, we kind of have to wonder, again, this is just coming to me, are these connected? Were they seeing the same thing? But I'll tell you what it is. So, this wall respected and very renowned poet at the time, Su Dongpo, back in 1071. He reports

13:38seeing a bright and shining object and it was so bright, again, here we go, that it illuminated the night sky like it was daytime. This sounds like the same thing. He also noted, now this is more interesting here, though, which is, you know, he's talking about the sound now, right? We always talk about, we hear from people about, you know, I saw this object in the sky. Was it making a sound? Right, we say that now because we can compare it to things in the sky that make a sound. Helicopters, airplanes, blimps, whatever you want to say. Now, nothing was flying in the sky then, which is also kind of an important thing to note a thousand years ago. They have nothing to compare this to. So, it's not like they could say, well, we're seeing a satellite or, you know, we're seeing it's a SpaceX rocket. No, there was nothing. There shouldn't be anything flying in the sky a thousand years ago, but this is what they're talking about, all of these sightings and they're trying to make sense of it. And they're writing down exactly what they saw in detail, bright glowing orbs, illuminating the night sky like it was daytime. And in this case, Sudong Po talking about how there's

14:43no sound. He said that, again, you know, with something like this, we could easily, we could write it off as like, you know, a meteor, okay, what if this was a one off? What if this was just something that we've seen it before? There's a famous clip from Portugal. What was it? Maybe 10 years ago or so? If maybe not even that long five to 10 years ago, where the light glows green because of this close-up meteor that flew through the sky. It's a great video. It's when Superviral some time ago, where this girl just happy to be taking a selfie video at the right time and this bright, green glowing meteor comes right over her and illuminates everything for a few seconds. So maybe that's what Sudong Po was seeing as he, you know, took notes on this event. But here's the thing. We, this is different because we could think that until we hear this detail. He goes on to say that the object made an abrupt and sharp turn. Hello, that's familiar? An abrupt and sharp turn before

15:46disappearing or short time later. So according to this well-known and respected poet, Sudong Po, we're talking about a bright, glowing, illuminated object filling up the night sky like it's daytime, going across the sky with no sound, making a sharp turn and then disappearing. Again, boys and girls, this sounds like I'm reading a story from last week, but it's from 1071. It's unbelievable when you really put this stuff into perspective and think about my gosh. Like this is, this is stuff that we hear about now. And that's why this was so, this subject was so fascinating to me because there's so many parallels to what we're experiencing today and they were seen in a thousand years ago without any other explanations that we can give without any other scientific or mechanical excuses that we can give to our modern day sightings. They were having the same ones without any other comparisons or explanations to go along with it.

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20:00that we're going to finish off with today after this one. But this story goes back almost exactly 500 years to the year 1528. And we talk about here this obscure stone mason who lived in a small village. And he was one witness among others in the village, according to the accounts. And we'll get more specifically into where these accounts come from in just a second. But he was one of other witnesses in the village to see this bright glowing star moving fast from east to west. Okay, that's how they refer to us this bright glowing star. The star came closer though. And then at this point, it was described as having a disc like shape. Okay, now we're talking, right, a disc like shape flying through the sky 500 years ago. The stone mason was curious. Of course, who wouldn't be we're curious now. And he did what any of us would do these days.

21:01Go up to the disc. Try to understand what the heck am I seeing? Well, he did that. And as he did this, it was later described as it is brilliant bright light with multiple colors. And it was about the size of one of the houses in the village. So probably not super big, right? But this is kind of like you think about a normal, what a normal size house would look like 500 years ago. That's the size of this disc that he sees in the sky with multiple bright colors. And I can't help but to think about, of course, you know, so many reports him over the years about these these disc shaped craft with blue or red or green or yellow, you know, white lights on it attached to it being described kind of like that classic, you know, 1970s, closing counters UFO, okay. From from the movie. This is what it sounds like, but from 500 years ago, the story goes as this

22:02stone mason continued to kind of stand there and look and try to figure out what he was seeing. He then fainted again, common detail. He remembered that fainted. And then it explicably found himself in a place that he had never seen before. He wakes up to find himself in a room with what he described as this odd kind of red hue surrounding him had no idea what was going on. He also recalled and here we go. He recalled seeing strange creatures with round heads and three eyes. Now that's a detail I have never heard before with abduction cases or close encounters with other beings is three eyes. I don't know if you remember hearing about something like that, but I'm like I'm trying to go back as I was putting this together. I was even trying to remember what other stories can I think about where these beings aliens had reported, you know, reportedly three

23:06eyes. I can't think of any. And maybe I'm just not thinking of something and there's like this glaring example that I'm missing, but I as I'm talking to you right now, then as I was putting this together, I couldn't think of anything that resembled this description. Of course, yes, the round head. That matches everything we hear now. But the three eyes, that's that's a new one to me. Now, unless the description doesn't fit exactly what he was seeing, right? Maybe he could only compare it to eyes. Maybe that third eye, so to speak, was something else on the head of the alien. I don't know. Obviously, we can only speculate. But he also said that they were wearing strange clothes. Now that's really interesting because sometimes we do hear about these aliens when people come in contact with them that they're wearing some type of like metallic looking shiny clothing. We've heard that before. I think even I think in the case of Roswell, that was one detail that they spoke about. If I remember correctly, it's so sometimes it's hard to remember. Sometimes these stories run

24:07into each other. So I apologize, but I think I'd remember that detail from Roswell. And they spoke to him as well. Now, it was not defined worth saying here was not to find whether they were speaking to him verbally, like actually opening their mouths and talking to him, or if there was some type of telepathic communication going on, that was not specified. But he did say either way, they spoke to him in a language that he could not understand. So take that for what it's worth, which was also a different detail. I must say that struck me there in a language that he could not understand. Because a lot of times now, what we hear about when it comes to abduction cases is that the other being will speak to the abductee in their language telepathically. And I've heard that a lot from different abductees, who say that they were abducted when I spoke into them about their experiences. They do refer to the fact that, yeah, they spoke to me in my language, whether that be German or

25:09Spanish or any other language of people that I've spoken to, who say that they have been abducted. Portuguese, I've spoken to a few different people with different backgrounds who say they've been abducted. And of course, English, they say that they heard their voices in their language without a problem. In fact, it was always described to me as very fluent. There wasn't anything, you know, any type of broken language. So that one was different for me. And I wonder why that would be. Why was he hearing a language he could not understand? What is the difference now in abduction cases when it comes to communication to 500 years ago where this stone mason is saying he couldn't understand what they were saying to him. So that was really interesting to me. And I'm not sure what to make a bit other than maybe it's just maybe they're just like us. They needed more time to evolve and understand different languages. I don't know, it's possibility. But also what really caught my eye with this was that the description of this entire story. And this is where the story comes from.

26:12And why I thought this was one absolutely worth telling. It's not an abstract tale. This isn't something that was second hand or, you know, passed down as some type of tall tale in Chinese culture. This story was actually found in a 500 year old historical manuscript. And in this manuscript, they had other accounts in here that spoke about more of the like the traditional topics that would surround a culture. It spoke about music of the time, martial arts practices, medicinal practices of that time in 528. But this story, this one instance, this one detail was the outlier. It stuck out like a sore thumb within the 500 or so pages in this manuscript that was found and is kept in the historical records in the societies in China. This is kept in their museums and such. It's not something that's made up. You could probably go find it yourself if you ever

27:16went to China or look it up online. This manuscript from 500 years ago, they have it. But the thing that stuck out on one page out of over 500 pages talking about your everyday things like I mentioned, one page had this story amongst all the other things. So my question would be if we're applying our modern kind of arguments to a story like this, which is, well, someone just made it up or someone was on drugs or they were drunk or they're looking for attention, whatever it might be, the things that we say now, why would someone, by the way, an imperial historian who was taking these notes, very important to know that an imperial historian. This isn't somebody in the Chinese culture who would be like a Stanley or a Jack Kirby making up tales of Spider-Man in the Fantastic Four. They're not going to write their own fictional stories. Their job, their task was to write down the historical record and that was something they took very seriously. So in that case, why in that

28:23scenario would they choose one page to make up a story in the midst of the everyday mundane details of their culture surrounding things like music, martial arts, and medicinal practices. That's the only other argument I can think of that this was made up, obviously, by the Stone Mason who says he was abducted or by the imperial historian who was taking the notes, wrote this down in the manuscript, he wanted to play a trick on somebody, but those arguments don't hold a lot of water. It's hard to figure out and we have to take it to consideration that this is a historical account. That's why I wanted to bring this up because it has to be considered and it's an incredible thing to consider. Also important to note before we're done with this one is that this tale, it was recounted itself by the Stone Mason, the man who says that he was abducted, because the final part of the story is that the Stone Mason suddenly reappeared in his village one year later.

29:25This dude was gone. He was not seen again until a year later. So you talk about missing time. This guy was gone for a year and soon after he came back, he gave the story to the official record keepers and that's why we still have it today, 500 years later. So you take all these ancient stories or these older stories into consideration and you have to think about a couple of things. One, kind of everything I already mentioned, we compare it to our modern day sensibilities and the things that we have UFO sightings to compare it to. They did not have those things to compare it to 500 or a thousand years ago. That's the easy part. But you also talk about are these were the tales of like dragons come from? I thought about that while putting this together, is it possible? Were we talking about these things flying in the sky? Again, nothing to compare it to. So they're talking about also flying chariots. What does that sound like? That sounds like the old

30:28testament where we hear about chariots in the sky. Stories from his eat gild and things like that and the old testament. So I mean, and now we're hearing the same things. They use the same verbage there flying chariots in the sky. Dragons flying in the sky. It makes you wonder, again, I have the proof of this. I'm hypothesizing along with you, which is what makes this so much fun, is maybe that's where some of these tales of dragons came from because they couldn't, like, how else do you explain what you're seeing flying in the sky other than to try to describe it some way? Or maybe I'm way off base and maybe dragons were actually a thing. That could also be something. I'm open to it. Why not? But just something I'm throwing out there, that's all. And I love putting these stories out there. I love putting this together because I think it's so important. I'm all about perspective. And I think it's so important to keep these ancient stories, these centuries old stories in mind when we talk about how we see things today, it's really important to keep all this

31:32in the proper lens. And remember that it's not just something that started happening five or 10 years ago. We're seeing the same things that they were seeing so long ago. And it's unbelievable, honestly, when you think about it. But now we fast forward to modern times and also worth mentioning before we get to the final story here today, which is the one that I mentioned, one of the most unbelievable, incredible, fantastical, abduction stories I've ever heard. But before we get to that, something worth mentioning, 1982, nationwide sighting, or sightings, actually, that took place between 1981 and 1982, one in particular where hundreds of thousands, you talk about a mass sighting, hundreds of thousands of people saw what they referred to as a massive glowing white halo and a bright star that appeared over multiple provinces. Some say, maybe that this was a mothership. While others say that it was an exhaust from a high altitude man-made rocket

32:38interacting with space debris that was reflecting off the sun, that was a mouthful. But literally, that's an excuse that was given by different astronomers. So make of it what you will on this massive glowing white halo that was seen as like a bright star that appeared over multiple provinces. Was it a mothership or was it a high altitude man-made rocket interacting with space debris that was reflecting off the sun? You make up your own mind. But you can look that one up. I mean, there's a lot out there about these nationwide sightings that were taking place in the early 80s and particularly that one in 1982 because there were other sightings that were happening there in the 80s actually similar to what we covered in part one during the 2010 flap now too long ago. You know, that saw all the things that we spoke about with the airports and all that different stuff that we covered in part one. And this actually spawned a new wave. It's important one of the things that I wanted to mention here with this wave in the 1980s was that it kind of spawned

33:40a new wave. It was a domino effect that kind of led us to where we are today or even to 2010 during that flap there. It kind of like brought about this new wave of UFO enthusiasts around the country of China. And it led to the creation of something that you're going to hear coming up in this final story. It led to the creation of the Beijing UFO research organization. Without this nationwide sighting and the sightings of the early 80s, the Beijing UFO research organization would not be a thing. And it is a thing. On a July morning in 1991, Detective Mike King's life changed forever. I don't think I'll ever forget that first moment when I saw her. A young woman made a startling confession. She'd recently been a member of a cult. I had to consider the fact that her involvement meant that she could actually be one of the predators. Gardens of evil inside the Zion Society cult is the fifth season of the award-winning series American Nightmares. Subscribe now on Apple podcasts wherever you listen.

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35:46today. But with all that said, we'll finish off here today with the modern times and we go back to the olden days of 1994. Yes, so so long ago now. Gosh, it is depressing. This was 1994 in rural China where at this point, just as regular guy, a lowly lumberjack, he's out in the woods, he's doing his thing. And then he spots a strange glowing object flying through the sky. Much like the stories that we were just talking about from the old days, the real old days. Now much like the stone mace in 500 years before him, he thought this was worth investigating. Now at this point, of course, he thought, well, this might be an airplane. And he thought it was crashing actually as a flu towards nearby mountain named Phoenix mountain. So he went to go investigate it. He's like, let's see what's going on here. He knows this is a crashing airplane. So my need help. This is really weird. Now as he got closer, this is where things take a turn for the worst for our buddy here,

36:53the lumberjack, whose name, by the way, is Meng Zhao go. Now, this is one of the most famous, if not the most famous, abduction story in Chinese history. So you may have heard of this one before, but if not, strap in because Meng Zhao go goes to investigate this strange site. And as he does, and he approaches the site where this crash, if you will, or landing was happening, he described as though something hit him in the forehead. And then he blocked out like that was it out for the count. And then the next thing he knows, he's awake and he's back at home and he has no idea how he got there. Now this of course is not dissimilar to any other close encounter story we've heard about missing time, right? We've heard a lot about these things and it sounds like that's what Meng was experiencing was some type of missing time. So he has no idea what's going on. He tries to forget about it. He thinks I'm just going to move on with my life from this strange ordeal and forget that ever happened

37:55because I don't know how to explain what happened. And then that worked for a little while until a few days later when something happened that's a well he can no longer deny this one because as Meng was asleep in his bed next to his wife by the way, all of a sudden he woke up in a panic because he found himself immobilized and suspended in midair above his bed. He is floating above his bed and he cannot move. And as I said, his wife is in the bed and I stress that you'll know why in about 10 seconds because just then this wave of terror came over Meng's body as he saw what he described as a 10 foot tall alien inexplicably materializing through his wall in approaching him as he is floating over his bed. He recalls this thing again being about 10 feet tall and having six fingers.

38:55Which is kind of an odd detail. You only hear about that a lot at least not that I can remember. And here's where things take that unexpected turn and why I mentioned his wife laying next to him because as the alien got closer to Meng he realized that he cannot do a thing to stop what was about to happen which was this being getting on top of him. And yes according to Meng, this being had relations with Meng. And after the deed was done the being got off and floated back down through the wall. It was gone. Meng goes down back to his bed and the creature is gone as quickly as she came through the wall. Now he did describe it as being female. He said that he could tell that she was female. I won't ask for further details on that from Meng but he said that he could tell that she was female as she left him high and dry and went through the wall. It's wild, wild stuff.

39:55I'm sorry. Now the story doesn't end there though. Like that would that would be you know wild enough. No, no, not even close because some days later on July 16th to be exact. Meng says that he had another encounter with the 10 foot tall alien. This time though it was with multiple 10 foot tall aliens. They still looked about the same which he described almost oddly enough as like whiteish grayish almost looking like the Michelin man which is a really weird detail. Of course we remember the Michelin man Michelin tires. But that's how he described them. I don't know what to make of that but that's what he says. Multiple of these aliens. And now he's on the craft. He is on their craft days later on July 16th. He says they spoke to him in broken Chinese. Again, why not the perfect fluid language that we've heard about in other times and other abduction cases. I don't know but he says it was broken Chinese. And we says at that point it kind of made it

40:59hard for him to understand them but he was able to understand them enough. But then these beings they spoke to Meng about themselves. We didn't have the same encounter as before that that part is over. That was that was a one-timer. They told him that actually that they were refugees from a dying society or a dying planet. He says other than that though they didn't really give too much detail other than essentially that they were just out trying to find their way in the universe and the galaxy. And if you're wondering the answer is yes. Meng did ask about the female alien that came to him that one night. I'm sorry. And he was told that would it be impossible to see her now actually because amazingly they told him that in 60 years the son of a Chinese peasant would be born on a far away planet. Think about that for a long gestational period.

42:00No thank you for your ladies in the audience. That's insane. 60 years. So I don't know is that I mean an all-Kity aside is that a real gestational period for these beings or is it 60 years in our time like the timing is different with how light years occur maybe the timing is different because of the gravitational pull on whatever planet they were on. These are all things that we would have to workshop to figure that one out or how they grow a different being in some type of test tube. I really don't know but this is what Meng says. He says that he was told that he would not see the woman again but that is the son of a Chinese peasant would be born 60 years from then on a planet far away. So unbelievable detail there. But this last part of this incredible direct encounter keep this last part in mind because it is a very strange detail but a really important one.

43:01Meng says that before going home as he was aboard this craft the beings wanted to show him a video and on this video were fragments from a comet that were hitting the planet Jupiter and there was showing him as it was happening on that day July 16th 1994 and I stress that for a reason. July 16th 1994 because after that they sent him home and from there actually things went back to normal in Meng's life. I guess as normal as they could be after experiencing a couple of encounters like that but the encounters you know in his life they were done. Everything was copacetic for a long time until one day 22 years later in 2016 only 10 years ago from right now Meng says that one of the 10-foot tall aliens returned to him at his home and presented him with a space rock. They told him that it was a piece of the comet from the fragments that had

44:06hit Jupiter 22 years earlier in 1994 from the one that they showed him on that video and with all this said on its surface if we kind of reflect on this for a second admittedly I think we all probably have the same initial thought when we hear this story is that it's just a bit too much it's too much even I would admit that but I always want to give you the story of course to give you the details and let you make up your own mind you know that by now I think and we might think it's a little bit too fantastical to believe but here is where things get complicated on that end that space rock that Meng says was given to him by the giant aliens was actually tested okay because at this point now he's telling people what's going on and he's like I got to find out some things here so he gets the rock tested and they find that it's primarily made of the element the element uh terbium now terbium is a rare earth element that is more commonly found

45:11within the asteroid belt that it is that then it's found here on earth and at this point now Meng's story really begins to pick up steam and gain media attention because many people wanted to know what really happened here and investigations began to take place with some researchers even going to the field where Meng says he saw the craft come down all those years ago in 1994 now interestingly enough they actually ended up finding old scorch marks making this what you will but they did find these old scorch marks on the surrounding trees as well as even finding some rocks that were split into pieces now was this a coincidence or was this a sign of some type of crash that had taken place years before manmade or not now going back to the name you heard earlier that came up uh because of the 1980s sightings that were taking place the Beijing UFO research organization they were around still of course in 2016 and at this point the chairman a man named Wang Feng Chen

46:20he came to the site because he heard about what was going on there finding these strange anomalies that match his story from 22 years earlier so he goes there and he admits that the site does actually present undeniable signs that something some type of aircraft manmade or not landed and took off from that spot so it is confirmed that something happened there now the question is what now he did again he did not specify what type of aircraft this might have been but it was something now to add to these kind of actually surprising results man had a researcher from the Chinese academy of sciences show up to his home and they ran a a Geiger counter test and when you know it the readings showed up with these anomalous levels of radiation at the wall where man says the alien showed up 22 years ago on that one fateful night the very same wall that he said that 10-foot female alien

47:27materialized through came into his bedroom did the deed and then materialized back out through the wall they actually found an anomalous radiation spike at that very spot if you make sure kind of sugar shoulders like I don't know now even with all these compelling findings man was discredited and he was smeared by the Beijing UFO research organization and they actually not unlike what we hear today with our own witnesses here in the United States they painted him as this crazy unstable person they accused him of lying about the entire thing despite all these anomalous findings they were they were coming across so at their request he was ready and willing to take a polygraph test and he did that now for what it's worth he actually did pass this test he retold his story then he passed the polygraph test and add that in with this final detail okay remember the comment impact that was shown on Jupiter

48:30by the aliens they showed him this video they said here's this comment it's hitting Jupiter well remember that date we said when they showed him the footage when he was on the craft July 16th 1994 it turns out that in the midst of all this like hotly contested investigation that was going on a local newspaper pointed out that NASA's Galileo Orbiter did actually indeed capture footage of a comet named shoemaker levy nine and that comet its fragments made impact on Jupiter when yeah yeah you guessed it on July 16th 1994 so now a couple that with the fact that man was given a rock that was rich in terbium which is an element again primarily found within rocks in the asteroid belt and to be fair terbium is a rare earth element that is found within rocks in China okay so I have to put that out there now at that point the question becomes did man pick up

49:33a rock that somehow he knew would match that one in the asteroid belt did he just get lucky you know he's making up the story it's like you need to find some physical proof here let me pick up this rock and say it was a space rock and it turns out to just be rich in terbium or was this a sign of something more was he really given this piece of space rock this comet that hit Jupiter that was confirmed by video that was caught from that's his Galileo orbiter on the day that he said he saw it that was shown to him by aliens on a craft and to that point how did he know about that common impact back in 1994 when the fact is and most people didn't even know about it in 2016 until it was brought up in that newspaper article I mean look when taking all these things into consideration you can see why this story here becomes one that might be a little harder to dismiss than we originally thought when we first started hearing those fantastical details but wow yeah

50:38that's there you go ladies and gentlemen the two parts of China's hitting UFO history and what a way to end it there with the story of mr. Meng Zhao go and one of the most famous if not the most famous abduction encounter in Chinese history so I absolutely wanted to end with that one but I got to tell you those ancient accounts those centuries old accounts those are going to stick with me personally because they're just so strikingly similar to what we hear today and that to me my personal opinion that's actually the most incredible part of this episode is to compare the accounts a thousand years apart that's unbelievable to me so what did you find most interesting hopefully you found the whole thing interesting you could always let me know through email through social media follow along on any of the social media channels at uapocast 850 twitter tiktok instagram search uap podcast on youtube you can find a bunch of stuff there as well reach out to me

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53:42on behind the scenes in DC how are things being looked at within the Trump administration how are his closest advisors handling this situation what's happening with the whistleblowers there's so much that we got into really important interview there that I'll be releasing at the beginning of next week early on next week so stay tuned for that one Eric Burleson back here on uap coming up in just a few days but with all that said thank you so much for sticking around for going through this special two-part series here about China's hidden UFO history I really really enjoyed putting this together this is the kind of stuff that you know I did to start off uap and I always love being able to kind of go back to my roots and really just do good old and fashion investigation and presentation about these incredible stories that have been either forgotten or have never been so thank you so much for going along with me on this it was it was a lot of fun to consider the stuff here today so on that note until next time it's Stephen Deen here saying be well thanks

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