Tyler Robinson Preliminary Hearing Transcripts (Day 1 Part 18) (9/15/26)

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3:05Answer, I am, yes. Question, okay. And did you receive a report from the medical examiner's office? Answer, I did, yes. Question, okay. Detailing the autopsy that was performed? Answer, yeah. Prior to receiving the report myself and Agent Davis visited with the doctor. Question, okay. You visited personally with the doctor that conducted the autopsy? Answer, that's correct. Question, okay. And then subsequent to that. And did you discuss the autopsy with the doctor at that point in time when you were meeting with them personally? Answer, yeah. Agent Davis and I had a fairly in-depth conversation, yes. Question. And where did this conversation take place? Answer at the medical examiner's office. Question, okay. And do you recall the date and time that that personal visit took place? Answer, I don't recall. Question, okay. Was it within? It gets cut off by the agent. It was soon after within a few days of the incident. Question the autopsy? Answer, yes. Question, okay. And subsequent to that visit,

4:05did you receive a report from a doctor that you visited with? Answer, we did, yes. Question, okay. And is that the doctor will warwaddle that you're struggling to pronounce his name? Is that fair to say? Answer, yeah. I apologize, but yes. That's who it is. Question, okay. And the report that was sent to you, do you recall when you received that report? Answer, I don't recall the specific date. Question, okay. Have you reviewed the report? Answer, yeah. Question again, you stated earlier that this is not the first murder investigation that you've worked. Answer, correct. Question, okay. I take it. This is not the first medical examiner's report that you've received. Answer, correct. Question, okay. Do these reports typically look the same? Answer, yeah. They're in standard format that the medical examiner uses. Question, okay. And this report that you received from who you believe was the doctor you spoke to that conducted the medical exam, was there anything peculiar about that particular report that stood out to you?

5:06Answer, no. It appeared to be a standard form as used by the medical examiner when they send us reports. Question, okay. On your monitor, exhibit 11, I'm going to have displayed what's been marked states exhibit number 11. Judge for identification. Judge graph, right. Question. And I believe there's nine pages. So let me know when you see that on your screen. Answer, it's on my screen. Question, all right. What I'd like you to do is just look at this as it scrolls down through the nine pages and wait until we get to the very end. And if you need us to pause or stop or slow down, let us know. I want you to be able to look at all nine pages. Did you look at that? Answer, yes, sir. Question, okay. Do you recognize what that is? Answer, yeah. Question, what is that? Answer, that's the medical examiner's report of examination for Mr. Kirk. Question, yeah. And you don't recall exactly when you received it? Answer, no. I don't unfortunately remember the specific date when I received it. Question, do you remember how you received it? Answer, they provided it to us electronically.

6:08Question, okay, via email. Answer, sometimes via email, also on disk, compact disk. Question, okay. And does there appear to be anything in that exhibit before you? That the report changed at all or does it accurately depict what you received initially from the doctor? Answer, it accurately depicts it. Question, judge, the state would seek to admit, exhibit 11. Judge Graff, Ms. Nestor? Your honor, this is an expert report without the expert being present. Being offered by an individual who's not an expert in this field. If they're presenting them as an expert in this field, based on the limited questions about his experience and seeing previous medical exam records, I'd like to voire deer them on his qualifications to all point about it. This is hearsay. It's highly technical. It should be presented only through an expert. It could never come into trial any other way. We submit that it's hearsay and to the extent they're going to ask this individual about any opinions about it, that would be improper. He's not qualified to do that, and furthermore, we just think that this is clearly falling under

7:14our constitutional concerns about the absence of our ability to be effective to cross-examine, to question. We can't even question the expert's experience, or CV, or anything that we would normally do to determine if this should even be accepted or considered by the court. And so we strenuously object to its admission, and for all the reasons to its publication as well. There are some really personal things in there that should never be published, that deal with Mr. Kirk's medical condition, history, is the condition of his body, it shouldn't be published, Your Honor. Judge Graff, thank you, to the state. Prosecution, judge, this is clearly reliable hearsay admissible under Rule 1102 of the Utah Rules of Evidence. I would direct you specifically to subsection B5 for purposes of, and I'm quoting the rule, for purposes of criminal preliminary examination only. Reliable hearsay includes subsection 5, specifically states, medical and autopsy reports and records. Again, that supported by Article 1, Section 12, of the Utah Constitution,

8:16which states that reliable hearsay can be relied upon at prelim examination and whole, or in part. Judge Graff, and to the second part, it's in regards to publication. Prosecution, as far as the publication judge, we agree with Ms. Nester. This is a document that does contain very sensitive information, and information that Mr. Kirk's family would appreciate it not being published, and so although we seek to admit it, we'd ask that it not be published here in the courtroom, or that it'd be published in any fashion, or a way that the public could see it by virtue of camera. Judge Graff, Ms. Nester? Kathy Nester, Your Honor, I just want to point out that even though 1102 has a provision about exams, I mean the court still has the overarching mission under 1102 to make this reliability finding, right? And it's just completely in a vacuum being offered by someone who's a police officer, so again, we would just argue that you're just not, it's hampering you, for making the analysis you need to make to admit it, and we object to it.

9:19Judge Graff, all right, anything further from the parties? Answer, No Your Honor, Kathy Nester, No Your Honor, Judge Graff, Sir? All right, so again, relying upon the analysis on Utah Constitution, Article 1, Section 12, as it relates to reliable hearsay, and then turning to Utah Rules of Evidence, Rule 1102, B5 specifically notes, medical and autopsy reports and records. The court is going to overrule the objection and admit state exhibit 1, or I believe it's 11. Prosecution, 11, yes sir. Judge Graff, citing to Utah Constitution, Article 1, Section 28, Dignity portion, Respect and Dignity, it will not be published either in the court room or viewable on media by the camera for the reasons previously stated as it relates to the video, and so the court will receive it and it's admitted into evidence, and that concludes that portion. Is this a good point to stop and take our 15 minute afternoon break? Prosecution, I think it'd be great, Judge. I just got one last question if I could. Judge

10:23Graff, always you may. Prosecution, with respect to the medical examiner's report, Agent Hall, and that report does the doctor relate cause and manner of the death? Answer, yes he does, question okay, and in that report, what is the stated cause of death? Answer, it was stated as a murder. Question and manner of death? Answer, it was a gunshot wound to the neck, question okay, give me one second. Kathy Nester jumps in, your honor, I object, it's not stated as murder, I believe it's stated as homicide, which is an important distinction. This is Matt Rogers from Los Cultures, that's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Cultures, that's Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. You know when people try a new food, and suddenly it's like, wait, that's the reaction. A lot of people are having when they first try a cute be mayo. It's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle, you've probably seen it in the grocery store before. And if you've ever just walked past it, some people would say that's a huge mistake because this mayo is different. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs,

11:26cute be only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, and almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Eggs sandwiches, fries, burgers, some fans even swear by dipping pizza crust in it. And once you notice it, you start seeing it everywhere. Chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really care about flavor use it. Never try it, grab the bottle with the red cap next time you're out of the store. Put it on just about anything, then you'll understand. Cute be the original Japanese mayonnaise. Dave Roberts here, there you are, surrounded by fans, sharing wings, sharing drinks, high-fiving random strangers. Everybody remembers the game. Nobody remembers the guy coughing behind you until a few days later. At 2am, you wake up with the fever and your throats on fire. Now what? Urgent care, clothes, ER, slam, telehealth, maybe, but the pharmacy's clothes. You needed a medical emergency kit. These aren't first aid kits. They contain essential prescriptions used for over 30 common conditions, sinus and ear infection, UTIs, stomach bug, travelers diaria, and more.

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14:34rule, again, under 1102 and the Utah Constitution that it permits reliable your say. State exhibit 11 is admitted. Prosecution. Prosecution. Back-askin questions. Agent Hall. I'm going to ask you to look at the first page of exhibit 11. You see that? Agent Hall, yes. Question. Okay. So, let me ask you again. Can you look at it? And would you mind relating what the doctors report as the matter of death? Answer. Yeah. I'm a spoke. It does say homicide. Question. And then the immediate cause of death. Answer. A gunshot wound to the neck. Prosecution. Nothing further, Judge. Well, at this moment, I think it'd be a great idea that we take a 15-minute break. All right. So, they get back, they get seated, and the judge calls the courtroom back to order. And prosecution, once again, is asking questions. Question. Thank you, Judge. So, Agent Hall. In addition to what you've already described, what if anything else, did you do? On the 10th of September, 2025. Answer. Our primary focus

15:38was to identify the individual who'd been seen on the roof with the prelim footage. And so, there was a big effort to review as much of the video that we had available to us from both the public, but predominantly from Utah Valley University. In an effort to follow that individual both forward and backwards from the time of the shooting. Question. Okay. So, if I understand you correctly, priority was it to identify the shooter? Answer. Yes. Question. And to that end, you started reviewing even more UVU video than you've already described. Answer. Correct. Yes. Question. Okay. What if anything else? Either did you do or happen initially that helped you identify who that shooter was? Answer. So, there were hundreds of hours of video that was reviewed. But the predominant focus, again, was on tracking the individual from the roof, either after the shooting had occurred or trying to trace the steps of the individual prior to the shooting. And we were able to do that through a combined effort of individuals and the focus was having people

16:39reviewing video, identify people who could fit the original description of the individual that jumped off the roof. Question. Okay. So, at this point, approximately how many hours of UVU video do you think you personally had seen or watched? Answer. Myself. Maybe 10 or 20 hours of video. Being called into look at different camera angles and different views of individuals. But there was a large team of people reviewing video. Question. Okay. Reviewing video. Answer. Yeah. From UVU. Question. Were some of them SBI agents? Answer. Yes. Correct. Question and combined. How much video do you think you watched that first day on the 10th? Answer. It would be in the 10s or hundreds of hours of video that was reviewed. Question. Okay. Did anything else come along that helped you identify who the shooter might be? Answer. Yeah. Eventually on the evening of the 11th, we received word from Washington County that an individual in that area had reached out to law enforcement and was wanting to turn themselves in for the incident at UVU. Question. Okay. And at that point in

17:44time, did you receive a name from Washington County? Answer. Yes. We did. Question. And what was that name? Answer. Tyler Robinson. Question. What if anything did you do with that information? The name Tyler Robinson. Answer. That information was given to our S I A C or state information and analysis group. And they put together what would be called to work up. So they would look at as driver license records, DMV records to determine addresses, obtain pictures of individuals, and then any associated vehicle or things like that. Questions that was done with Mr. Robinson? Answer. It was. Yes. Question. Driver license record was pulled. Answer. Yes. Question. Did that include, if you remember or a DNO? Did that include a photograph of Mr. Robinson? Answer. It did include a photograph of Mr. Robinson. Question. How about an address and date of birth? Answer. There was an address and a date of birth. And I believe a DMV record with an associated vehicle. Question.

18:44All right. So the DMV record did include a vehicle that was associated with Mr. Robinson. Answer. Correct. Question. Do you remember what the make and model of the vehicle was? That was tied to Mr. Robinson? Answer. The Dodge Challenger. Question. Anything else beyond that that you remember? Answer. It was silver in color. And I believe there were two registered owners of the vehicle. Question. Okay. And who are the registered owners? Answer. Mr. Robinson and his mother. Question. Do you recall whether or not the date of birth was included in that driver's license information that you got initially? Answer. Yeah. I believe the actual driver's license record was shared. So it would have included a date of birth. All right. Folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. Dave Roberts here. There you are surrounded by fans sharing wings, sharing drinks, high-fiving random strangers. Everybody remembers the game. Nobody remembers

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