Two Guys, Five Rings: Episode XIV - The Paralympic Winter Games

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3:06My name's Matt Rogers. My name is Bowen Yang. And for the next 25 to 31 and a half minutes, we're going to get into it about the 2026 Milan Cortina Paralympic Winter Games just as widespread as what would you call the, I guess, just the Olympic, the Olympics, yeah, Austin, you, you and, yeah, Austin answered. It is apparently the 50th anniversary of the first winner Paralympic Games. Everything is celebrating. It's 50th anniversary. Doesn't it feel like that? Yeah. Well, I will say I, I think that a lot of people are very vocal when they're celebrating something that is a 50th, you know what I mean? Like you just don't hear about, oh, it's my 48th, you know what I mean? Or can you believe it's the 67th this is just that, I don't know, a part of me thinks, yes, a lot of things seem to be celebrating their 50th, but that's just because you're

4:08not hearing people shout about the other celebrations, but that's just a counterpoint, you know, it's really good to be able to sort of spar, we're sparring, is that what we're doing? Every podcast is a spar, every podcast is a spar, well, this is, how about this? This is what I'm presenting to you. What was happening in 1975 in 1976 that had so many new things that come into the world? You have the Paralympics, you have Hello Kitty, because that was 1975. You have a Saturday night live. Yeah. Well, you know what they say, they say that back then, you know, a lot more people are procreating. There's a serious problem nowadays. People are not procreating as much as they were back then. Well, sex was a huge part of the 70s, I wanted to say it was the summer of love, but I think that's the 60s. I think, yeah, I think the summer of love was 1969, Barb.

5:13When was the summer of love? Barb, when was the summer of love? We haven't asked much of you lately. We haven't even used Barb. Yeah, we have to remember we have a resource here. We need to know what the summer of love was. I do think if I had to guess, it was the 1969 summer, but 1975 is not that far away from that. So you have to imagine that within that six-year period, they still had, you know, in the corner of the ground. Yeah, a lot of the love to go around. Of course, 1967 was the summer of love. Well, because 68 was a bad year. Correct, yeah. Yeah. Hey, well, you know, Barb agreed to disagree. Agreed to disagree, Barb. I think I heard a rumor that Barb gets paid on a per answer per question basis. Okay. Well, we got to keep asking her. We got to keep asking her because I am not going to be the one who holds Barb back from her blessings. No, it won't be me.

6:14It won't be me. So let's just get into it and look for opportunities to help Barb out. The 2026 Milan, Cortina Paralympic Winter Games are underway now through March 15, 2026, featuring 79 medal events across six parasports in Milan, Cortina de Pezza. La devienne. This tree will be made when 612 athletes from 55 National Paralympic Committees compete in Alpine skiing by Athalon, cross-country skiing, ice hockey, snowboard, and wheelchair curling, including a new mixed doubles events. You thought you loved curling? Get ready for wheelchair curling where they will be pushing and leading these stones to the center of the mark. Just when I thought you couldn't get more obsessed, here's a genuine question for you. Has the sort of love affair that you started with curling in your head when we were in

7:18Milan? Has it continued? Have you YouTube did it all? Be honest. No, not at all. I am very fickle with these things. I would say maybe I have an ADHD problem. I am obsessed with one thing, and then I have to move on to the next. My brain craves new stimulus. Well, I'm not your therapist. I asked a fun question. I didn't want to get into all this stuff. I answered your question. You didn't want to re-answer? Okay, girl. The opening ceremony was held at the Verona Olympic Arena, a non-competitive venue of the Games that already hosted the closing ceremony of Olympics on February 22. The other venues of the Paralympics, the competitive ones, will be divided between Cortina de Ambezzo, Milano, Antecero, with Cortina, also hosting the closing ceremony at the end of these games. Wheelchair curling takes place at the Cortina Curling Olympic Stadium in the heart of the Dolomites surrounded by snow-capped peaks.

8:22The stadium has already started hosting the first qualifying competitions at the Paralympic Tournament after being at the center of the Winter Olympics, built in 1955 for the first Winter Olympic Games in Italy. In 1936, it hosted the opening ceremony for the event and the figure-skating competitions. A lot of dates. Yeah. In the heart of the Tovane ski area in Socrates, on the historic Sands and Slope, Sands the Cortina Paras Snowboard Park, which hosts the Paras Snowboard competitions. The competitions here are divided into two specialties. Now listen. Banks, Slalom, and Snowboard Cross. An unmissable opportunity to experience the excitement of the Paralympic Games up close and admire the extraordinary performances of the world's best athletes. Women's and men's Paralympic Alpine skiing takes center stage at the Tovane Alpine Skating Center. Among the tracks of the area, there was a queen of fast and adrenaline-filled races. Her majesty, the Olympia de la Tovane, one of the most iconic tracks in the world, which

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13:26Oksana's 10-2 Excel at the Olympics. It's actually real culture number four. Oksana's 10-2 Excel at the Olympics. And the Paralympics. We are obviously joking. And the Paralympics. We're obviously joking. She deserves more medals, of course, despite missing all of the 24-25 season due to an infection in her life, the 36-year-old is back in her sitsky and ready to defend her title. She's the world's top ranked Paracross country skier heading into Italy. Well, I wish her the best as an Oksana. Yeah. Well, I don't think she even needs our help with that name. But let's talk about Kendall Gretz from the USA. She a dual sport powerhouse and a five-time winter Paralympic medalist with four podium finishes in Parabaiathlon and one in Paracross country skiing. She recently swept all three Parabaiathlon events at the 2025 World Championships. So I guess Kendall Gretz doesn't need our help either.

14:28Just going to crush. I hope there's one Paralympian that needs our help. And I think we might find one or if we turn up short, then that's okay. Then we don't really humbled by the experience. But get this. You know how we just spoke of Oksana Masters. She's engaged to Aaron Pike from the USA, also competing. He's a seven-time Paralympian and two-time individual world champion and byathlon in 2023 and 2025, seeking his first Paralympic medal. And he's engaged to Oksana Masters. They play her into Mary in Milan after the Paralympics. How sweet is that? How romantic is that? They met over their shared love of coffee. Well, I guess I should be marrying everyone I worked with at the office. We love the stuff. How many of them do you think still work there? The office? Yeah. I don't understand the question.

15:29How many of them do I face? You know what? Get this. This is so cute. So Aaron Pike and Oksana Masters met over their shared love of coffee. So she noticed him at a training camp because he'd gotten whole beans delivered there and realized he had the same coffee standards that she did. It sparked a conversation and a lasting relationship. Masters says Pike has made her coffee every morning in the 11 years they've been together. Masters says this and was quoted as doing so. Oh my gosh. We love coffee. It's really, really sad and problematic and we're probably singlehandedly keeping the coffee business in business. It's kind of an iconic quote. Yeah. I think that is beautiful and also I want to really rebut her and say that it's not problematic. She said it's really sad and problematic. I think it's the opposite. I think it's joyful and unproblematic that they love coffee and whole bean culture.

16:31Yeah. I think it's kind of normal. I think everyone loves coffee. I actually want to challenge them to our own game. Like who loves coffee more? I think I love this stuff. But I will say if they are grinding their beans every morning, that is you're both waking up at the same time culture. Well, that's like, because if you're grinding beans in the morning, you're waking up your partner in the bed. That must mean that these two are getting up at the same exact time because no one's waking the other up. Now, let's talk about Para Alpine's game. You have Jacob Womper, Tignoli, the home nation favorite in Italy and the visually impaired category with eight Paralympic medals, including four golds. He's compiled a remarkable competitive record of massing more than 70 World Cup podiums along with seven discipline titles and a hall of 15 World Championship medals. Where do you put them all? That's my question. Oh, godly. A warehouse or something or maybe he has like a bunch of ants.

17:35You know what I mean? Like a lot of times, you know, it's nice to give like, you know, family ma'aunt. Do you say ant or aunt? I guess I say ants, but I just wanted to clarify. I didn't mean to challenge your pronunciation. Well, you did and a lot of people listen to this. Laurie Stevens is a seven time medalist and flag bearer for the opening ceremony competing in her sixth Paralympic games. And Laurie, that's someone I got my eye on for the games. I really got to say, probably the most prominent US Para Alpine skier. She's a flag bearer. That means she is going to be waving. She's going to be waving the flag just her hands to the adoring public. She has a lot on her shoulders, but you know, knowing Norway, who have Jesper Peterson,

18:36you know, they're going to, they're going to come hard as well. If they do as well in the Paralympic games, they did in the Olympic games. Because if you don't know now, you know, Norway added to their dominance in Winter Olympic history by taking home the most medals in those games. And Peterson is a dominant force who won four golds and one silver at the Beijing 2022 games in the sitting category. So look out, Laurie Stevens and Elena Forster from Germany is one of the most consistent set skiers globally, boasting nine Paralympic medals and over 130 World Cup podiums. All right. Now I'm thrown because 130 World Cup podiums, that means, that means it's over 100 podiums. It gets boring, I bet. I bet you're so bored because you don't really realize like when, you know, when, when you go to the Olympics, we were lucky enough to be at the, um, the team meddling for U.S. figure skating teams.

19:37And it takes them a while to set up the podiums. Odiums are, podiums are thing. So it's 130 podiums that she's been on. But you know, that's also waiting for a lot of construction at a certain point. You're like, okay. Just give it to me. But anyway, Paracross Country skiing popping over there, Karina Edlingerova from Czechia. Here's the team in Beijing, Karina made headlines, not only for winning her first Paralympic gold in Paracross Country skiing, but also for providing her guide dog, Riley, his own custom made metal for all the work he did getting her across the finish line with four World Championship golds. Yeah. For overall World Cup titles and three Paralympic medals and that's on K9 friends. Look at Riley. That is a good boy. He is so noble. Look at him. I'm dead. I need. I need him. Everyone at home has to Google this because you are going to want to see the image of Riley here. It's really good.

20:38Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. He's got a metal. That's a kind of dog that you should have. Where he's got a metal. Is it like a chocolate lab? I might want a lab. Yeah. That's like a lab. Oh my goodness. Next we have Jake Attacoff from USA after earning silver at the 2018 Pyeongchang Paralympics. Jake Attacoff announced his retirement, but a hungry for more. He returned to the sport three years later and collected two individual silver in one relay gold in Beijing. He enters Milan, Cortina as the reigning world champion in the vision period classification of the men's 10 kilometer and 20 kilometer. If you're across country skiing and you retire and you decide to come back, you are a better man than I because I'm calling it quits as soon as I put the skis on for cross country. I'm like, I'm not dragging over a straight, unsloped plane. And you say I'm coming back for more after I announce my retirement.

21:40You're crazy Jake, but I respect you. It seems too tough for me. In Para ice hockey or sled hockey, Declan Farmer of the USA is Team USA's all-time leading scorer and a three time gold medalist widely considered a generational talent. So Declan Farmer, we're checking for you. We're Chaplin for Declan. We're Chaplin for Declan. Does that work? Yeah. It does. You know, I can see myself with a sign, like sort of hung up in the air like above my head, like Chaplin for Declan. And then people walking over and being like, Chaplin for Declan. And then they say it out a couple of times and I'm like, I think I get it. And you go, yeah, we're Chaplin for Declan. And then they go, yeah, well, when you say it with that enthusiasm, like as if it's a thing, I guess I am going to get it more because your tone you're using is very persuasive. But when I walk away from you and I really think about the sign more, I think you could

22:43have gone back to the drawing board because we're Chaplin for Declan. It just doesn't. It's not as good as you think. But for a sign to sort of inspire such a debate and to really stick with the person long after they've read it, I think is a mark of a great sign. Look, what matters is none of this. What matters is Declan Farmer's talent, which is widely considered generational. We have Brody Roybal, a three-time gold medalist known for elite speed and puck handling forming a lethal offensive duo with Farmer. And yet, where are his flowers? Yeah, I'm not seeing his flowers. Why are we calling Brody a generational talent? They're like, oh, yeah, he has elite speed and good puck handling. It's like, yeah, he's a three-time gold medalist. Hello. Of course he is. I don't know what sort of bias is going on with our producers, but there's a big picture of Declan Farmer here and nothing of Brody Roybal suggesting bias.

23:44Suggesting bias. A lot suggests bias about this stock. Oh, okay. Vincent has put a picture of Brody, and this is good. And honestly, adorable. Adorable, Brody, you're adorable. To say nothing of Josh Paul's. Yeah, we have Josh Paul's. Go off on Josh Paul's. Well, let me go off. Hold my purse. Man's purse. He's a four-time gold medalist and the longest tenured player on the US squad, serving as opening ceremony flag bearer. Wait a minute. I thought someone else was flag bearer. I'm going to conflicting information. Uh-oh. Here comes Bar. Door two. There are two. You're not getting paid for that one, because we didn't have to wreck the question at you. But thank you. Thank you for answering the question for us. I will then will you separately. Yeah, not me though. Over in Parasnow Boarding, Brenna Huckabee is the most decorated parasnow board in the

24:47world and the reigning banked Slalom gold medalist, and she's back at it. Tyler Turner from Canada, who's lost both legs below the knee in a skydiving accident in 2017, became the first Canadian ever to claim gold and men's snowboard cross and picked up bronze and banked Slalom at the 2022 Winter Paralympics in Beijing. Do you have something to say? I went skydiving once and I would never go again. It was, I would call it not a good experience. Also, I was 18 and I'm closeted. Well, as someone who has skydived, as someone who's skydived, I think you have also been someone who has been very wary of some of the perils, not that it's held Tyler back, of course. Not, I didn't do it against my will, but peer pressure was a, well, as just say, it's a really powerful thing. And I don't think we're talking enough about peer pressure. I think it should be, you know, really discussed. Well, you know, they come in when you're in high school and say, you know, be careful

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29:53You know, growing up, Empte was a star basketball player, taking his talents to West Point. And then Yukon to hoop for legendary coach Jim Calhoun. A figure is after his collegiate career came to a close. He was drunk driving and gone into an accident that paralyzed him. He discovered wheelchair curling in 2013 to scratch his omnipresent competitive itch. And today travels around the country to share his story and encourage students to drink responsibly. Steve, he turned it around. I want to talk about Oyuna or an Jamang. Born and raised in Mongolia, Oyuna is a Minnesota resident and naturalized citizen. She was involved in a car accident that resulted in permanent paralysis from the waist down. Oyuna fought back from depression and that 43 years old started curling and competed in her first Paralympics in 2022, finishing fifth out of 11 in the wheelchair mixed curling event. Now at 52 years old, she'll have another crack at earning a medal in Milan Quartina. I love it. This, there is a film here.

30:55I'm sorry to put my showbiz tap on, but. Oh no, that is an amazing story. For the fourth successive Paralympic Winter Games, listen to this, a record number of women will compete with a total of 160 female competitors spanning through all six sports. China will have the biggest delegation of competing NPCs with 70 athletes followed by the USA with 68 and Canada with 60. Host Italy will have a team of 42 athletes. We have some new country. Among the 55 competing NPCs will be five Paralympic Winter Games, debutants, El Salvador, Haiti, North Macedonia, Montenegro and Portugal. And after the medals have been awarded and the venues grow quiet, the spirit of these Paralympics will travel home with every athlete, every fam, and every story still being told. They would love to be there in person, but they have not allocated money in the budget for us to be at the Paralympics. We just want to say,

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