Trump’s “two weeks” war is about to break America

0:00It's the tip of the spare in the epic battle to defend the United States of America. The National Security Hour exposes the wolves in sheep clothing and then a various plots to undermine and destroy U.S. National Security. Hello and welcome to the National Security Hour. Thank you for joining us on the mission. The National Security Hour is the tip of the spear in the epic battle to defend the United States of America. I'm Brandon Weikert, your friendly neighborhood host. You can catch me right here every single Wednesday night at 8 p.m. Eastern and you can follow me at We The Brandon on Twitter X. We are back with another national security talk. I guess we're going to call this the war edition. The first update of what I'm assuming to be many because contrary to what this administration

1:02is saying, well they haven't said much actually. They haven't said much about it, which is upsetting in and of itself, but I have a feeling this thing is going to go on a lot longer than just a couple of days. We are joined by our friend David Pine. He is the editor in chief over at the real war on sub-stack. I am Brandon Weikert. You can now find me no longer at national interest. You can find me at senior national security editor at 1945.com as well as writing under the pseudonym NATSEC GUY on Emerald Robinson sub-stack the right way, emerald.tv. I have my own section there and we're blowing up the place because it's no holds barred over there. We're really getting into a lot of truth about national security that a lot of people aren't ready for, but need to know about. Without further ado, David, it's great to have you back with us. How are you? Hey, Brandon. Great to be with you. I guess I'm eating up the news and watching the World War 3 take place.

2:05That's it. That's it yesterday. Well, let me ask you. We're just going to start there because I think this is the question that everybody wants to have an answer to, which is this World War 3? Or is this what the administration is saying? And it's sort of like a larger version of Operation Midnight Hammer, which was their operation last year to hit those Iranian suspected nuclear sites? I think what we're looking at today is the biggest regional war in the Middle East that we've seen. Perhaps even exceeding Iraq and Afghanistan, not in terms of scale in terms of US military ground troops commitments, but in terms of the number of countries that we've been now 11 countries, 10 in the Middle East and of course the United States that are involved in this fight and one way or another in terms of being either hit by Iranian missiles or obviously in the case of the US having their military base has been hit. So when I say it's World War 3, we're not there yet, but I think that for example, if

3:11Iraq were to hit us hard, you know, at the US homeland level with the massive cyber attack, superimpressive. Iraq or Iran, you mean? Sorry, Iran. Yeah, the Islamic Republic of Iran. If they were to hit us with some kind of cyber first strike or superimp or even a nuclear first strike from ships, they've already demonstrated the capabilities to fire nuclear capable to potentially ballistic missiles from ships, then I would consider that World War 3. It's going to go as nuclear or massively cyber or superimp, but in terms of what I believe, I think a World War is defined by taking place on more than one continent. So I guess you could say that a little bit Cyprus was hit, you know, Cyprus is an EU country, it's considered part of Europe. So it was France. We have an intercontinental. Well, and actually I was going to bring this up. The reason I ask about the World War is because I think it's already reached a regional war. Now that you mentioned Cyprus, I was also very fascinated by the attack on the French

4:14facility and how the French are now moving their Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier from the Baltic Sea where they're conducting whatever against the Russians in Ukraine. And now they're repositioning that carrier to, I think the Arabian Sea is where they're headed. I don't know, maybe it is the Mediterranean they're going to, but clearly in the Middle East is where they're putting it. To me, that indicates that this thing's going global. I mean, am I wrong about that? Well, I think, yeah, I mostly agree with you. I think that certainly with the Houthis being involved trying to close off the choke points in terms of perhaps the Suez Canal and the Red Sea, you know, plus the closure of the straight-of-war moves to all but Russian and Chinese tankers. I think those are moves that are pushing it more in a World War direction. And just a number of countries, as you mentioned, you know, France, France may be involved. Britain claims they're sitting this one out. But let's just, let's just give it inject here. You know, they said that, but I know for a fact that there are dozens of typhoon air

5:18warplanes manned by the British Royal Air Force that are currently or were earlier today and were filming on March 1st at 7 11 PM Eastern. They were conducting air defense missions sets, I think, over Oman. So they're already, it's very funny. It's very odd the British. I don't even understand what really they're doing because they're saying one thing, but they're definitely involved. Yeah, I totally agree with that. I mean, they've certainly opened up, I think it's France where they're force-based. Yeah. Alright, based on France where then in the UK and then do you go to Garcia? It's kind of like, you know, they're telling me that they're denying it while kind of looking the other way. If we really feel we need it, they'll probably let us do it. We don't really need it. I don't think. And I think, you know, what they were talking about before the show is that, well, you talked about air defenses. Yeah. I think the most interesting thing about this is just like the 12th, they wore Israel is afraid of sending planes in iranian airspace.

6:20They've avoided that. They know that Iran does have some very potent Russian and Chinese air defenses, unlike the Venezuelan mission where we kind of appeared to neutralize the limited defenses they had in Venezuela. They didn't really have any advanced systems. It was mostly manpads. Yeah. And I just want to quickly say, I don't mean to cut you off, but because we talked about this and I wasn't at the time certain what exactly, but having now looked at the Venezuelan operation to me and how it went down and who took over, it really looks to me like there is a backroom deal made between Delci Rodriguez and Trump, maybe not directly. But through intermediaries and my personal opinion is the reason those air defense systems didn't go off and the Venezuelan sort of stood down when we came in. I don't know if it was because we had the discombobulator or if it was because there was a political agreement made before this thing happened. Most of the people that were killed in that raid were the Cuban intelligence operatives who were surrounding Maduro.

7:20I don't see something similar happening in Iran. I don't see any secret deal between Trump and whoever is now running in the command of the Iranian side. Yeah. I mean, the background story I heard for Venezuela is that we did use cyber weapons to help neutralize our defense system. We also had a high-ranking kind of CIA asset that helped us neutralize them as well. And then we had the, you know, supposed a discombobulator, that's what Trump calls it, obviously. It's not named that unless he forced them to name it that and obviously he's forcing a lot of things like calling our new ballot cruisers, the Trump class, everything, you know, the Kennedy Center's, yeah, the Trump Center and every, you know, many clashes. What you're saying it's closing down the Kennedy Center because nobody wants to play there. It's these remodeling. Yeah. Most likely. But, yeah, I don't think I haven't seen any evidence of major U.S. cyber operations against Iran. I would expect that they would do that unless they felt as I do that Iran has a very potent

8:21cyber-offensive capability they could potentially use against us and shut down much if not all of our critical infrastructure is kind of a last resort if they feel that, you know, their regime change is being overrun. Now, the issue is, you know, there's been this debate with the neo-conservatives supporting this Trump regime change war saying we can achieve regime change just by assassinating the committee and then, you know, bombing them and that's going to eliminate their leadership. What I've seen so far is they just keep refilling the ranks. You know, there's a lot of, a lot of disinformation about Iran being liberated. If so, why have they bombed nine different countries since the committee was assassinated? And you bring up a good point because one of my readers pointed this out on my Twitter feed at We the Brandon because I posted about how clearly the regime is not losing. Maybe they're not winning. I don't even know what winning, I guess winning for them is just surviving. But clearly they're not losing because if they were losing, they wouldn't be popping off

9:24these missiles. They just did a hypersonic attack against Israel. That was very successful. It looks like I think it was either Tel Aviv or Jerusalem direct they hit. So this looks to me like they're still in, they're still giving as, maybe not as good as they're getting, but they're certainly in the fight still, unfortunately, for our guys. But the point that I'm going to make here is this reader told me, you know, I'm reminded of the early days of the Ukraine war where all these news stories came out that dozens and dozens of senior Russian military officials were killed in the fighting and yet it didn't really seem to make a difference. The Russians were still marching on. It's as if the West has forgotten that we're dealing with the country and you're in Iran of something like almost a hundred million people. They have a large military. They can just pull people up from the ranks and put them in a new slot. That's right. I mean, Iran is three times bigger than Ukraine. It's like 3.7 times bigger than Iraq. With 3.7 times more people than Iraq had at the time we invaded 23

10:26years ago. And so Iran is a huge country. It's resilient. We have no ground troops. You know, the reason we want to Iraq temporarily was because we had, I don't know, Daddy Davis is claiming up to 300,000 troops that we use to occupy Iraq. We have zero troops on Iran's border. We don't have any in Central Asia. We don't have any. And obviously in a Pakistan or Afghanistan. And we have some in Iraq, but they're not in the border. I think they're mainly in like the cluster to near Bill or near, I can't say near Bill or near Bill. Which was hit, which was hit. Yeah. So Iran is going all out hitting our bases. The one thing they haven't done a whole lot of yet is to destroy Gulf state energy infrastructure, although they started that. I think I don't know if it was. They hit a Saudi facility yesterday, I think. Yeah. I heard from a Katari that the worst case scenario, that's the worst case scenario, but if Iran really goes ham on their oil production facilities, it might take five to seven years to reconstitute those

11:31facilities and Qatar. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, sit on a bird up a lot of the the Bosnia oil facilities, you know, as the predecessor just taken taken over Iraq and invading. So yeah, I mean, they can they can work everything down and and hike up, you know, oil costs to an extent that Republicans will probably be wiped out in the congressional elections and lose the White House. So is that an active strategy on their part? Because they're very savvy operators. Are they are they like looking at this going, okay, we got to put the squeeze on in the oil domain so that the Republicans going into the new election cycle are down and we can get rid of them and hopefully get Democrats back. Yeah. I mean, I think that's their one indirect way to to take down Trump. You know, they obviously can't sort of assassinate and they can't take him out of the presidency. You know, that potentially could be a feature removed. And I think there's for the first time ever, I think there's actual solid case for that constitution. I agree. Last two people, it's were complete jokes and you know, truck did nothing wrong.

12:33But this is crossing the line. You know, legally, perhaps some of the war powers resolution, he might have the authority constitutionally. I would say that Congress did not have the authority to, you know, do a kind of a carte blanche transfer of its warmaking powers to the president. I think specifically, they were authorized, you know, a specific action against Iran or perhaps even the region. That might be constitutional. But certainly under international law, there's, I think three to the Rome statute, the UN Charter, there's multiple statutes that say it's illegal. But, you know, I care a lot less about legality and I care about this for America. And I think that JD Vance is, you know, certainly he ran on that as Senator and Vice President. And I think he's strongly in our camp in terms of he obviously didn't didn't transmit that publicly. He tried to be a loyal Vice President in public, but behind the scenes, I think he been trying to display the president from his regime change wars. And I definitely want to talk about that. As you know, you and I have kind of

13:34disagreement on that and I want to get into that very much so. But I want to stick first with as much of the military and sort of technical aspect because, you know, the media is doing it as typical as they usually do. They're doing a horrible job of explaining just what exactly we are seeing on the screen. They're focused on the big explosions and the drama of it all, but they're not talking about what's actually going on. There was a radar that was destroyed. And I'm, it's an AN, I'm forget, I think it was ANYPG 59, I think. It was, it was one of our 360 degree look-around radars that we had in Bahrain. To me, it looked totally obliterated. Now, I was told by someone in Africa, who is definitely not a friend of mine, that I'm an idiot and though it was just a satellite uplink station that was blown to bits and the system itself is operating or is fine. Have you heard anything about that specific instance in Bahrain? Do you know what was destroyed?

14:37And how might that impact our ability to defend against Iranian missile drone hypersonic swarms? I don't know specifically about what was destroyed in that instance and that attack, but in terms of what you, you stated earlier, you know, who's going to win this war? You know, how do you define victory? For me, victory is there's three objectives that Trump has clearly stated. He wants regime change, meaning he has a lot of stuff to go. And he's been real, real loose on that, saying yes. IRGC overthrows the new IOTO, then that counts as a victory. I would, I would argue strongly against that. I think he might say it would though, because I think he's looking for an out. Yeah, no, he is. He's clearly looking for an out. He realized he kicked over a hornet's nest. Yeah, he's flailing around. He doesn't know what to do. He took out the IOTO and he just automatically seemed like Hitler when they made the Soviet Union that it's that Iran would collapse like out of cards. And he's finding out that it's a tough nut to crack and they're not about to surrender. I mean, a lot of the folks that I've talked to you, Neocon, again, Neocon, Trump war supporters

15:42are talking about how, you know, there's a lot of reports coming out of Israel disinformation that are saying that some of the leaders are behind the scenes and back channels are they're trying to surrender. I mean, who do they surrender to? There's no US troops. They're going to have to leave the country. They're going to be assessing on their way out, you know, probably by. Oh, it's all lies. David, I am disgusted by the level of lying and dissimulation. And I realize in war, it's got to protect it by a bodyguard of lies, but they're lying over things that really, and I think they're lying to the president as well. I don't think president Trump has any idea about what's really going on here. That's just my take though. The National Security Hour on America out loud talk radio network on I heart radio is where you come to hear military and intel experts. America out loud talk radio plays on the I heart radio network. You can also listen on our media player from any web browser anywhere in the world. We have the best in class apps available on Apple Android and Alexa, where we stream 24 seven. And now you can also hear them on

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18:59The toothpaste mouth washments and gum all contain xylitol and natural ingredients shown to dramatically improve oral health. Sprite can be found online and at all find natural retailers. Thank you for listening today and thank you for joining us on the mission. The National Security Hour is the tip of the spear in the epic battle to defend the United States of America. I'm Brandon Wiker. You're a decipherer of truth in an age of lies. You can catch me right here every Wednesday at 8 p.m. Eastern and you can follow me at we the Brandon on twitter x. Take though. Yeah so regime change is number one is is objective number two. Take out the program in this case it's a spy force so that you know supposedly it was obliterated it's eight months ago. So somehow it magically returned because Trump used the same lie this time around as he said last time in June the White House was saying there were 15 days away from

20:01developed you know weaponizing an atomic bomb. Trump said yesterday he attacked because Iran was down was two weeks again. Yeah it's always two weeks the two weeks for over a decade you and I are old enough remember this same line's been used you know by multiple presidents for the last I actually found a New York Times essay just a real quick thing. I found a New Year I think it was by Kristoff from 1984 saying the Islamic Republic of Iran was four months away from getting the bomb back in 1984. So this is going back to you know the 80s this is a common theme. Yeah so now you know I've testified to Congress in 95 I don't know if he was prime minister yet then but I think he was finance minister. Yeah so he came to shut up in Congress and it was 31 years ago and he testified that Iran I think was about three months away so yeah they've been two weeks to three months away. I think they have time traveling technology. So yeah skipping ahead

21:04to my next point yeah there's two there's two possible is with that Iran one is that the CIA is correct US intelligence is correct they've actually they have suspended their nuclear program for the past 23 years you know 2003 is what the CIA says. The other possibility is what I believe is that they they have nuclear weapons but they've been a responsible nuclear power and they haven't threatened to use them or actually have intended to use them wholly as a last resort against you know country like us trying to remove their regime. Either way there's no moment of threat you know when Trump says two weeks away that's that's blatantly false there's no imminent reason for us to attack Iran tech crews you know an arch neocon he's he admitted that he's like he's like yeah do I have no information that Iran is anywhere near develop you know developing a nuclear weapon so that that's not he's also in CIA mode as well because crews knows that this is politically toxic yeah you know yeah he wants it but he has to distance one thing also I'm just gonna I don't

22:06mean to take you off track but you you know you say something and then I might start thinking former friend of mine a former friend did reach out to me in the last 48 hours I used to work with this individual in on the hill he's now in the Senate we I knew him when I worked on the house House Foreign Affairs Committee and whatnot and he's a Democrat and he tells me that Trump is effed because we know for a fact Rubio withheld critical intelligence in the last meeting with the gang of eight that it was a manipulation and so now we're talking about real world political implications beyond just elections this could really have a stultifying effect on whatever remains of the checks and balances of our constitution and I don't know how you feel about that but you know I just wanted to put that out there that and I could totally believe by the way that Rubio lied because this is clearly part of a larger agenda and they wanted it no matter what

23:12because this timing makes no sense other than just somebody's bullshit political agenda in DC so the theory that I have and I think it's likely true is that that the I told Khmerney was he there was kind of a ruse going on so that you might have you're aware that on Friday we heard reports that I ran it essentially mostly capitulated to U.S. demands on enrichment there's a deal yeah the we're not on the ballistic missiles it was on enrichment that yeah it's really manipular that was what what the U.S. said that mattered the most to Trump administration told that matter the most then and so they they basically said well well permanently suspend our program we'll ship all of our highly rich freaky uranium to Russia so we'll have zero and we'll have unlimited IA inspectors to verify that our nuclear program suspended and there was reports that the Trump was seriously considering that and so Khmerney you know of course it's a religious holiday Ramadan that the highest or the biggest religious holiday for Muslims and of

24:13course for you know Shia Muslims and he he's the you know really the highest ranking or in the most senior leader of that faith that sect he decided to come out of his bunker you know thinking that a deal is about to be signed and then we took him out so I think that was deliberate I think that that was kind of we didn't know how to get him out of his bunker and I think Trump may have indicated you know the White House might have sent you know through obviously Whitcaw for someone else kind of suggest the Iranian leadership that that we think the deal is good and we're going to seriously consider it and maybe sign it and white things down and that's when they took him out and I just I know I've said this to you on Twitter but I just want for the audience to understand who people may not be as familiar as I am or you are but one of the the things we always held against the Empire of Japan and going into World War II was the fact that the Japanese pretended

25:16to negotiate a possible peace deal with the United States while they were basically planning to do the Pearl Harbor strikes and it was actually the peace talks were actually a ruse by the Japanese and Stimpson and all the FDR guys after the war began and we got involved they always said one of the reasons why we're the good guys is because the United States would never use real negotiations as a ruse to just buy time for a surprise attack on an enemy no matter how terrible that enemy may be but we just did that we just did what the Japanese did to and we've done it twice we've done we've done it twice against Venezuela obviously gets Maduro and abducting him and his wife as well you know while negotiations were on the table a very very sweetheart deal on the part you know that was offered by me to the United States and then of and then of course in this case we had a six interestingly a six strand of talks that was it maybe it was the third round of

26:20talks but it was last time around in in June it was the sixth round that was scheduled and we preempted it with the midnight hammer and now with epic fury I think it was kind of the same situation where you know was that the talks were scheduled about three I think was two days exactly I actually think the talk was supposed so they were supposed to resume March 1st yeah March 1st so Friday they went thinking okay we're good and the promise was we're gonna reopen March 1 yeah which would have been tomorrow Monday so and you know we're clearly now in a phase two two and a half almost of this conflict now phase one was the initial opening strikes it's interesting to me because I know the F-22s were used in a suppression of enemy air defenses mission set but I can't figure out what aircraft other than that we deployed either from the carriers or from the air bases

27:26into Iran and the reason I say this is because I've now over 24 hours been really analyzing what I could find in publicly available data sets it looks a lot like to me two things that we used primarily standoff weapons to hit those targets and it looks a lot like the requirement for this mission set was that Israel had to go first and it looks a lot like it was Israel that was initiating the strikes using these mostly standoff weapons do you know anything about this and can you just briefly explain if you do why this is an important thing to point out why why would we care if they use bond visual range weapons rather than just sort of conventionally going in and bombing the hell out of them yeah they go everything you said is absolutely correct we've you there have no evidence that or no information that would suggest that the U.S. or Israel has risked any

28:29of its aircraft in a rainy and airspace which was interesting because last time around of course we did you know we did use b2s and perhaps escorting up 35s or up 22s but there was kind of a kind of a deal you know the deal was we gave them 48 hours to withdraw their nuclear scientists and age you know highly enriched uranium maybe even some centrifuges and it would be more of a symbolic strike we would take out their facilities we would try to take out their facilities and they could attack our base at Qatar which had been evacuated right and there was some super damage to that to the our living quarters there on base but in this case this is a no holds barred regional war so it automatically escalated I ran and you know escalated up the chain hitting multiple countries you know I think by my can I think eight or nine countries within you know 30 hours of the onset of major combat operations and in terms of you know I think obviously the reason that they haven't we haven't risked aircraft above Iran is they now

29:33have advanced at 6G Chinese radars which I think are more advanced than anything we have in terms of being able to detect stealth aircraft from a distance well in terms of aircraft it's 700 kilometer distance we don't know where it is for stealth aircraft but it's likely pretty you know probably measured in the hundreds of kilometers and they could potentially take the inner B2s and our B2s as you might remember the cost about when they were built they cost about two-thirds of an aircraft carrier price so back then back when aircraft carriers were cheap at three billion they cost two billion a pop so we have 19 of those those are nuclear bombers we do have B52s obviously as well that perform that role I think a total of about 60 us about 40 I think 40 B52s at about 19 B2s but just imagine if you know we set seven B2s and they got mostly shot down what a what a blow to our prestige that would be so the reason we're using the standoff missiles

30:34is because we have I think we have reason to believe that we could lose a lot of aircraft if we were to go in and do missions over Iran like we did over Iraq during operation Iraqi freedom and I think and I this is exactly right this was why I wanted to point it out because I've been on a lot of shows in the last 24 hours where I'm paired with a military guy or former military guy I should say US military um and they're sitting there saying we're defanging we're defanging the the air defense systems we're doing it methodically we're going down the line it looks really good and admittedly on paper it does look like we are degrading their capabilities how successful has that mission set really been because according to those guys and according to the Trump administration we just have total dominance I was on with another another well-known person on ban and show this morning and this individual reported and it looks like it's been confirmed by the administration take from that what you will since they're lying

31:36about everything about this war but apparently there was a B2 strike last night targeting um some Iranian I don't remember if it was fordo or busher or one of these other ones but they did target one of the nuclear suspected nuclear yeah and according to the administration it went just like operation midnight hammer um so are we to make out of this that we've managed to suppress these right new radars that that Iran has or what do you think's really going on here yeah again I don't have all the information in terms of the the the the degree to success that we've had in terms of a suppression enemy air defenses I do think it's been significant but obviously you know not that great because you know of it B52s obviously flight at a very high altitude yeah um so you know I think they're the perhaps easier to defend and I just don't know what either aircraft we've flown over it so that may be the the plan is to is that to take it out

32:40the radars and their air defenses with standoff weapons and I think that's possible I don't know obviously we have a very limited stockpile in terms of munitions offensive missiles and especially missile defense interceptors I think that in terms of our ships we have us Navy ships there's I think there's obviously the U.S. of saber and Lincoln 15 destroyers each of those destroyers you know I heard Larry Johnson say that in kind of a mixed magazine of offense you know Tomahawks and SM3s and 6s they might have at maximum you know 50 each so what I've been saying is if I ran with series about taking out the carrier they they would simply send a bunch of slow you know kind of their lower tack slower moving cruise missiles and maybe some ballistic missiles you know to mainly cruise missiles because obviously they'll end drones to try to attack the carrier strike group and destroyers and then once once our you know kind of a wad have been used up in terms of

33:43missile defense interceptors they could use the hypersonics their hypersonic anti-shed missiles of which they have quite a lot to strike the carrier and try to sink it I'm not you know I'm not confident they would sink it but I'm very confident that they could hit it they want to and they've demonstrated I think the accuracy to do so and it's interesting because this morning there's you know some really bad news coming out of the region for the United States in the sense that we lost three service members sent com has confirmed that that had to be dragged out of them and five additional service members were severely injured in Bahrain I believe is where it took I know it was in the Middle East but I thought they said it was in Bahrain um apparently though paired with that there was a report and the Navy has confirmed or sent com rather has confirmed that the event happened but they're claiming it never came within any approximation of the carrier four ballistic missiles were fired immediately after Hamani's death was confirmed by Iran at the carrier um but that doesn't sound like a lot when I when I'm thinking

34:46they're going to swarm the carrier I'm thinking hundreds of these things was that a symbolic attack or was there was there do you think like what do you think was going on there yeah I think that was a warning shot I think it was a symbolic attack you know during the first the 12-day war I ran was very much into symbolic attacks they attempted to de-escalate successfully many times they made it clear that they you know for whatever in terms of you know them being a brutal Islamist regime with that support so they're you know through proxy terrorist groups they've been clear since they took power they don't want war a direct war with the U.S. or Israel obviously they they understand that uh we overpower them in terms of nuclear weapons even if they have a a modest nuclear arsenal as I suspect they do uh they uh you know obviously they they can't go toe-to-toe with us in that regard but in terms of conventional war they're demonstrating and just finishing my point uh so there's the regime change Trump wants to do there's a neutralizing nuclear program and they're taking out their long-range uh you know missiles that can strike Israel

35:51mainly their production centers as well as their missile launchers I think I don't think any of those objectives are achievable and so by any in terms of you know when you um sit out to do a war you know you do so with certain missions that you want to achieve and then once those missions are accomplished you get out in the carrier you as a saver and Trump may do and proclaim mission accomplished whether it's accomplished or not and the National Security Hour on America out loud talk radio network on iHeart radio is where you come to hear military and intel experts like me America out loud talk radio plays on the iHeart radio network you can also listen on our media player from any web browser anywhere in the world we have the best in class apps available on apple android and Alexa where we stream 24-7 and now you can also hear them on the podcast on those same apps be sure to make America out loud. news America out loud. news America out loud. news your daily stop for the latest news and happenings you can find out more about

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39:03well did you see google quietly updated its AI principles removing its pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance they promise they agree to in 2018 where the american people have seen google extract record prompt in the question is google and untrustworthy player in the AI race now is our time my fellow Americans America out loud dot news liberty and justice for all thank you for listening today and thank you for joining us on the mission the national security hour is the tip of the spear in the epic battle to defend the united states of america i'm Brandon wikert your host of action you can catch me right here every Wednesday night at eight p.m. Eastern and you can follow me at we the Brandon on twitter x we begin our final segment regardless of whatever operational or tactical successes we may have the battlefield in terms of

40:07degrading high-rands military capabilities i think in the end all they have to do is wait us out essentially i think we have about eight eight days worth of you know offensive missiles and missile interceptors and then after that we're going to have to draw down from our pacific plate stocks which will greatly undermine our capability to deter chinese aggression and and if this war goes you know past eight days or in a two weeks plus i think the chances of you know of china invading or blockading Taiwan without us opposition go skyrocket upward and i think that would be a tremendous defeat for united states do you think this is why china and russia haven't said anything because they're just counting down the days until they know we're we're running on empty i think that's part of it yeah i think uh you know china you know certainly they they don't like us trying to contradict their well supply but i think they see the big picture and the big picture is we are getting dangerously low with all of the the stupid wars that trumped Biden to fought

41:10you know regime change wars the war against the houthi which we who pays which we lost and we lost essentially lost the war against iran that was i guess a one day war from our perspective the twelve day war from this really perspective in that you know none of those sites were obliterated you know they're well their nuclear production may have been in terms of enrichment i think that we we significantly reduce that but they already have enough you know enough highly enriched uranium to build at least 15 or up to 15 atomic bombs so you know unless we actually take out the the heu you know and and this not just their scientists is they're what they have right now and if they wanted to within a couple months if they don't have them already they could probably build twelve to fifteen atomic bombs and called surge capacity for those exactly now those above high you know on top of their hypersonic missiles and then suddenly you know tell of eve and and westeroslam could get uh they crossed yeah yeah no i i think that's pretty accurate and that's pretty much where i'm thinking as well

42:16and as a side note i got into a debate with a former navy aircraft carrier captain who's retired now and really doesn't like me um made that very clear but um you know he was saying we we've got to go in now because we've got to stop them from getting nukes i said do they have nukes now and he said in two weeks and i said i said but but you can't you can't use that as a castes belly like you can't if they don't have nukes that you can't you really can't do that i mean you can i guess but but if you're looking at it from a legal perspective you're really not supposed to do that second of all if they do have nukes they've probably had them for decades some capacity and they've never used it so logically speaking they're not these crazy unhinged people um you can probably get a deal with them yeah and either way you look at it the trump administration is not

43:20in a good spot here because either what they did was illegal or you know they're going after a regime that probably we could have gotten a decent deal out of uh for nothing really i mean none of this heartache so it's just you know i i just was marveling at this uh you know thinking about it and and you bring up the fact that you think they have surge capacity and i've always said that and so that's why i'm like well maybe they do have nukes but you know i don't want them to have nukes but but if they've had nukes they've had them for a while and they haven't used them yeah exactly that's what when i'm saying all along is that they're a rational actor you know that we present them as a rogue state but well who are the countries that are bombing hell the united states as well i mean in a city multiple countries you know for us in israel israel is the chief of fender and we're the second chief of fenders so you know do i think that we should bomb countries in certain instances that are when it's interinterest yeah probably do i think we should and you know start fights with potentially nuclear powers or power in countries that are great powers that can take us down with the cyber attack

44:25i think that's extremely dangerous i think it's it's very reckless and it's the exact opposite of america first you know we heard uh present trump go out i think it was this morning or yesterday claiming that you know this war is america first well right and the idea yeah idea is that you know there's that the american public they're okay with with one day wars right you know but there was a poll that came out i think it was hurt mills or something like that from your conservative that said and it's well he posted it was 25% of the american people support one out of four the action after the case i mean after your bush invaded iraq i think it was 70 80 percent 72 percent after months and months of bush you know catterwalling in the public you know like i said you know bush at least had the courtesy to lie to me about why we needed to go into a rock that engineered consent trump didn't even bother to engineer consent he just didn't care well in bush you know for

45:29to his credit and i've always but i i was actually fired from the army headquarters staff for writing articles and opposition to to bush to land to invade iraq and i was i was out of uniform already so it wasn't like wasn't like i was you know doing something illegal right but um you know i think uh it's it's you know at least he got congressional approval and that's what's required of the cause so she doesn't have to say the racial war it just has to say we vote as a majority of the people's representers to support this this military action and so bush acted constitutionally it was illegal opposite or international law and it was an uprooted act of aggression to invade a country that was whose leader was trying to uh get be a us proxy again you know Saddam Hussein what realizes Saddam Hussein was trying to kiss her butt right and he got rid of all of his chemical weapons and he said hey i'll be your doggy again i'll be your doggy i will start you know fight another war against iran for you you just need to give me the weapons and i'll provide the men and we'll fight this war against iranian terror you know if you at the time

46:34i was saying bomb my ran don't invade a crack i was pulling i was saying we need to bomb my ran bomb the crap out of them because they're on the verge of nuclear uh you know weapons uh the threshold and at the time we could have done it with very low risk of the you know there was no there's a lot of things you could have done in two thousand two and two thousand three that would have made a lot more sense than what we ended up doing absolutely you got a wonder quibono on that one because that's the only you know those special interests that benefited from the from that particular war is the only reason we went in the way we did and how we did it because there was nothing about the national interest in that two thousand three war i would argue though again there's there's not much in the national interest here um i do and we are going to get to the political side but i really want to knock out a couple of other things here real quick um the iranians need allies but and i know this is just because of how we've structured our bases in the region in order to target us facilities the iranians have had

47:38to attack their nareton their neighbors how likely is it given all the damage that's now been done particularly to pour by rain i mean by rain has just been trashed um how likely is it that these neighbors are going to continue to try to rain in the u.s. israeli alliance or are they now going to switch and be like you know what because saudi arabia you know they did their two step they always do right publicly or against it we're not for it privately though apparently the deciding factor the deciding factor uh from when the first strikes went forward was when mohamid bin salman laid at night called trump and said if you're going to do it just get it over let's let's do it so how likely is it that these iranian attacks on arab states are going to push the arab completely into the u.s. israeli camp beyond what they already are i think it's i don't

48:39think it's very likely i think in the case of saudi arabia i mean they're they're a big country they have you know by some accounts they're a nuclear power i don't believe that but i've heard that uh certainly they they would at they are are are kind of a threshold power that they wanted to within a year they probably could you know weaponize a couple atomic bombs but uh you know that regardless um i think with the smaller countries like waiting by a barrain and guitar i think those countries are really wishing that we hadn't attacked iran because they're they're on the border essentially right you know right on the border uh next iran and iran's a big power and they have lots of weapons they have thousands more missiles than we believe they have uh perhaps i mean running it over 10,000 by some accounts and so uh you know they don't really have an interest in having their oil facilities blown up or having golf track it traffic out of the the uh you know straight more moves being blockaded and we're you know interdicted by iran paryton missiles or any ships or mines so i think that they're they're they're really kind of wanting to get out of this

49:44you know so i think they're going to be guitar especially the kataras more influence than the other countries because they because they're rich and they you know probably have a lot of friendships in the administration yeah they gave four million dollar forced lawyer craft or whatever how many that will be painted the way he wants it painted yes but in terms of Saudi Arabia i think they can kind of go either way obviously they've had this rivalry with iran but they kind of hate israel too they were all ready to sign uh you know kind of a strategic partnership agreement what i call kind of a little Middle Eastern in time yeah and then the uh iran of course green light at the mosque terror attacks they killed around 650 uh uh israeli civilians and then uh israel over-reacted by conducting this yeah basically leveling gaza to the ground uh kind of dressing in or you know he was chemistiles actually with weapons and 90 percent two percent of their houses were destroyed and 58,000 civilians were mass murdered and the terror bombings um so yeah i'm kind of uncertain

50:49about that but obviously you know attacking british and and french facilities i don't really see i think that's counterproductive because they're like bigger powers even though they're secret powers by our standards um you don't want to get like a whole western european coalition that's what i'm getting at because it does look like that was a huge misstep and you know i i don't know if you agree with me but i as of now i'm saying that regime has a 50-50 chance now uh of making it you know it could go either way because of because of how many players they're now putting on the board against them sort of like a numbers game um okay so then there's that and then before we shift to the politics i'm watching these videos notably out of israel and uh it looks like hypersonics have finally been used at least in a limited fashion by by iran it's also looking like the strikes in Jerusalem um the the the AD systems the air defense systems are not lighting up like you would

51:51think they would be they are they are shooting up at these incoming swarms but it's after two or three have gotten and landed and destroyed whatever they were targeting and then you see one or two of these interceptors launching but there's like 20 uh you know iranian missiles in the air so there's no way two interceptors are going to take out all those things is there something going on with israeli AD systems are they depleting uh faster than we're being led to believe absolutely yeah i mean the twelfth day war i think that ceasefire was was mainly uh netting the island initiative i think uh you know my brain was uh finally to cost starting to cost a major damage mainly to military facilities uh but also critical infrastructure and so uh and they were you know having their missile defense interceptors uh seriously depleted so you know now you knew they were going to write out and i think it's you know we succeeded in um kind of building those up a little bit not that much so i don't think israel really has the level

52:51i mean during the twelfth day war i think they had a pretty good stockpile of your defense most interceptor receptors but you know the us is the one that produces a lot of those certain defense receptors like patriots and uh that's obviously i don't think israel has that batteries but we deployed uh one of our very in the europe states though they've got the fads right yeah so yeah i mean there's there's other obviously if the uh europe states that cooperate like jordan and during the twelfth day war they were much more cooperative i think than they are are this time around uh but in terms of Jerusalem i always kind of had the opinion that i ran would not prioritize Jerusalem because obviously east Jerusalem is uh his arab Palestinian uh you know when they're their uh israelis never made them citizens they've refused to allow the east palestine re-eased Jerusalem Arabs to assimilate uh but uh obviously uh Iranian missiles are much more accurate uh so uh so they certainly uh can take out west west russlam which is uh primarily jewish um and so but i think what i'm trying to say is i think

53:56it'srael's prioritized telviebe above Jerusalem because they have yeah they didn't make that Jerusalem would be the main target because i think most of the government buildings are still in telviebe yeah and so uh so they've they've really kind of like the russians with their defenses around masqa was most of their anti ballistic missile defenses are in the masqa region okay not most but a kind of poor yeah yeah that makes sense okay because i'm watching these videos and i'm like we're only into almost 96 hours is this how many days has it been three days now no a day and a half it's only been a day and a half it feels like we've been doing this for three days yeah it's been uh okay so let's just say 48 hours so we've got six days before allegedly the us stockpiles are basically depleted can the iranians can the yeah can the iranians hold out that long do you think oh absolutely yeah i mean this i think about how long uh i've got you Afghanistan like the Taliban held out i mean and we we had we had troops that in you know in

54:58country and we were holding bases and and they fought an insurgent war in the case of Iran there's no there's no groups there's no insurgent army you know it's not it's not like Afghanistan where we have the northern alliance coming in right it's not even like libya yeah it's it's not even like uh it's not even like libya yeah we barely have it's in the air yeah yeah iranian airspace so this is far from over i mean they're they're really tough not to crack they have so many different weapons obviously not as many as russia or china but you know it was just today i think there was an irtc general that said that was threatening that irania super weapons that we've never seen before and but is that bluster or is that real well i think they do i think they i think they i think they could have nuclear hypersonics they could have they most likely do have super hipposatellite so over the u.s. like yeah i believe that and along with critical infrastructure i don't think um obviously wasn't he was talking about cyber weapons although that's kind of the you know that's kind of a weapon that uh they could win when when to beat the u.s in a day obviously

55:59i think we would retaliate kind of the mutual assured situation which is why they haven't used to yet uh but they have they have options and they're often there are much more cataclysmic from a u.s. national security perspective than than we get in the credit for and it does seem like the iranian response every iteration this time is getting more and more expansive i thank you for listening today and thank you for joining us on the mission the national security hour is the tip of the spear and the epic battle to defend the united states of america i'm your america always first host brandon wankard you can catch me right here every wednesday night at eight p.m. eastern on the iheart radio network you can also follow me on twitter x at we the brandon be sure to purchase my books at amazon or any of your favorite bookstores and if you like this conversation you can go to net sec talk n-a-t-s-e-c-t-a-l-k on rumble

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