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The first State of the Union of Trump 2.0 is here. What should the president talk about to tout his Year One wins and build momentum for the midterms? Kane of Citizen Free Press has some ideas, and weighs in on tricky topics like potential war with Iran and the Epstein saga. Angel Dad Joe Abraham shares the story of his daughter Katie, killed by an illegal immigrant in Illinois, as the president continues to highlight those victimized by decades of Democrat open borders.
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My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight you. End of pro-claim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You've got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a turning point to a state college chapter. Go start a turning point to a state high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life and I encourage you to do the same. Here I am. Lord, use me. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and
silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. Our tour is underway. I'm here in D.C. ahead of the state of the union. Blake's holding it down at Phoenix, Arizona. So there was a powerful event that happened yesterday. And again, President Trump, I thought hit an amazing note when he said, I will not forget. And he was referring to angel families. And a lot of us know the story of Lake and Riley in Georgia, who was killed at the hands of an illegal immigrant. But there are so many stories that we don't hear as much about and we need to. And here to help us is Joe Abraham. He's an angel father to daughter Katie, who was killed by an illegal immigrant. He joins us now. He was at the event yesterday. Joe, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. And thanks so much for taking the time to be with us. Please tell us your story and your family story. Sure. Thanks for having me and and allowing me to talk about
Katie and Katie's life. So Katie was 20 years old. She was a third year student at Ohio University in Athens, Ohio. And her and a friend, a friend in the in the one view Illinois area, that's where we live, took the train down to Urbana, Illinois to visit some friends at the University of Illinois over the weekend of January, you know, 18th, they went down there. They were in an automobile on January 19th at a stock light idle. And they were rear-rending at almost 80 miles an hour. Just estimated the how specific they were in, the SUV just plowed right into them, no breaking, no serving. Katie unfortunately died on the scene. Another young woman died the next day. There were three injuries. And it turned out the person who struck the vehicle, you know, not only fled right away. I mean, can you imagine you just to make five lives and the first instinct you have is to flee. So it turns out he is an illegal alien. A
Guatemalan national using a Mexican national alias. So sanctuary state Illinois, when they nullified federal law, did not put any type of a real process in place on the front end. There were no guardrails. That's how negligent and how Illinois is so mismanaged by the governor of Pritzker on down. General assembly every every state legislature. So there are no guardrails. Now on top of this, in the country using an alias and false documentations identity, theft or whatever you want to call it, he flees. They finally apprehend them. A two days after Donald Trump is in office on the 20th, shuts down the border. I truly believe if New York is inviting, we're still running things. He would have never been apprehended. So thank goodness for Donald Trump coming in. Shutting the border down, allowing US marshals and border patrol to do their
jobs. Unlike the prior administration, they apprehended them. Now it turns out in federal court. He is now that he's been incarcerated is being treated for HIV. So understand this as well. Illinois did not only have zero minimal vetting checks because the federal enforcement officers knew he was using an alias. They knew he was not who he says he was. Illinois didn't bother to check. Two, did Illinois help this guy with any health screening? No, there was absolutely not. So Illinois allows folks to roam around the state on check, unvedited, unhealth screened. So this guy has HIV in our communities was let go to Rome free. Was he as reckless with his HIV as he was behind the wheel drunk driving? I suspect he was. So so Katie ends up paying a price, a predictable outcome of reckless extreme radical policies out of
Illinois. And she pays the price. She's on some altar. We don't even understand. She dies on some altar of JB Pritzker and his lapdogs in the general assembly. So I sit here with a life sentence thanks to my Illinois government. And Katie received the death penalty. She got death. That's it. And Illinois is right now trying to erase us, silence us, make us disappear. We're so inconvenient to their nonsense stories about how there are no illegals in the country that everyone is good. And it just goes against human nature, how they approach things. It's really rather disgusting and insidious. Well, and Joe, you know, CNN MS now refused to air that ceremony that was honoring your families that was honoring Katie and Lincoln Riley and so many others before. And I was reading your op-ed here and you sent a letter to JB Pritzker with 11
questions. And he's I believe still not gotten back to you. It sounds like. But you right here, the pain our family has experienced in the last 12 plus months since Katie's death is beyond description. I wish I could explain it to people. The pain is so unbearable at times. It has me almost unable to function. I am haunted by the knowledge that I will never walk my daughter down the aisle. I'll never hold her children. I'll never see her again. I would give anything, anything. And the rest of my days for just one more hour with her. It's very emotional to read that. Compare what you've seen from the state of Illinois and President Trump and that's ceremony yesterday. Oh, you can't even you can't even believe the difference. You know, JB Pritzker loves to talk about Donald Trump being authoritarian this that and the other. If if my first time experiences, Donald Trump has welcomed us to the White House more than once has looked me in the eye father to father and said this has been a mess. We're going to clean it up. And JB Pritzker compare him ignored
us. I was in the same committee room as he was just 10 feet away from him for eight hours. Didn't say what didn't even look at my direction. He doesn't even probably know who I am, nor does he care. Jan Chakowski, another woman who who now is picking her successor, this Daniel Bisky from Evanson. And you should see Evanson. It's like Chicago, Jr. And apparently there's no Kings, but in Illinois you can decide who you're going to appoint to take over your seat. So she's walking by me like, if I wasn't there, so there was not one Democrat who would talk to me. And this state is all in Illinois is all run by Democrats. So I need to talk to them. That's who's running this thing. And not one would talk to me. So look at the difference there. This guy is not compassionate, JB Pritzker. He's not a caring man. He is someone who's aloof. He's arrogant. Somehow, I think he doesn't, you know, need the voters. He certainly doesn't. He's not accountable to the voters. He's, to me, I think, you know, people are
leaving Illinois in droves and he's backfilling them with this free for all immigration policy, because I think he needs warm bodies. Here's what I suspect. And I can tell you a story on that too, if you'd like, I wonder how many ballots are tied to these illegal alien bodies. That's, that's why I think he's arrogant and doesn't really need to answer to the voters. No, I think, I think that that's, I think a lot of us suspect the same. And we, we obviously see it because it, it ends up in the census data. It ends up in electoral college votes. It ends up in congressional apportionment. So whether or not there's ballot to ballot, illegal voting, it's still, it's still power that is being given to Democrats one way or the other. Joe, thank you so much for making the time. I know you've got travel and you, you wedge this dent. You wedged us in today. So I'm grateful to you. I'm grateful for you standing up for your daughter, for angel families, all of the country for being bold and courageous. Thank you so much. And I'm so sorry for you. I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Keep up the hard work. Thanks
so much. Thank you. God bless you, Joe. God bless. If you're tired of watching this country drift away from the values that made it great, it's time to get involved. That's why I stand with AMAC, the Association of mature American citizens, Charlie loved this country and he loved partnering with organizations that truly stand for what makes America great. One of our most trusted partners, AMAC, the Association of mature American citizens is doing something special in Charlie's honor. AMAC is offering free memberships to all ages, no credit card, no strings attached, just a chance to stand for faith, family, and freedom. Join this movement. Go to AMAC.us slash Charlie today. That is AMAC.us forward slash Charlie today. It's been kind of a heavy show, Blake. And I think we need to we need to cleanse the palette here and talk about some good things. Alright, so another judge ruling ruling came down a motion. It basically suffice to say that they denied the defense's motion and the death penalty is still very much
in place and on track in this case. So that's one good news. Second good news, Erica Kirk. It has just been announced will be at the State of the Union tonight. It's public public information now. President Trump has invited her personally and she will be attending. So that's going all over the internet right now, which is great. And I we have a hockey story that I'm going to hit, but Blake, you have you have a very very good one. You can hit your your party boy thing. I want a white pill for the whole for America in a big picture. I want to highlight flag this big article. Well, not a big article. They're all they're always short on Axios. Axios has an article this morning with a very sinister sounding title inside Trump's purge of US immigration courts. You read it. Here's what the purge is for literally decades. We've gradually built up this incredibly long backlog of cases in our immigration courts, which is obviously deliberate. While you're waiting for your day in court, you of course have the right to just live in America,
do whatever you want, work in America. And the Biden administration sent that into overdrive. They were giving people court dates two years, three years. I believe in one case a court date 10 years out and then releasing people into the country. And I know people are sometimes frustrated that things feel like they're going slow in the Trump administration or that things, you know, it'll be two steps forward, one step back, but this is a great example of how in the background, they're getting the job done. They've higher, they're hiring dozens of new immigration judges. And they've been training them up. And apparently this month is when they're finally getting into action. And that's important because as is already in the past year, the backlog of cases, the total number of cases they have to process has fallen by 341,000. And this next year, maybe that'll be half a million, 600 a million. And that's really important because when you adjudicate those cases, it goes really fast. Almost all of these you can handle in a matter of hours, if not, if not less. And once you're doing that, that is what allows
ice to just go and say, Oh, you have an order of removal. We're taking you, getting you out of the country. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. You make it so much easier for ice to just grab people, get them out. And it's so great here. They just have these quotes where like, you know, they put this guy, um, Darren Margolin in charge of training up the new hires. He was an immigration judge and he quit in 2024 because he said, quote, I felt like a co-conspirator in treason regarding the Biden administration's policies. Now he is taking leadership of the executive office of immigration review and he is ramming this through. So I wanted to flag that for people to show there are stories that are not getting front page headlines, they're not getting covered on CNN that we are getting the work done for mass deportations in the years to come. You just purge those cases, get it done. Big white pill for today. That's a white pill. I love the white, I love white pill, Blake. It's my favorite Blake. And so when he comes up with these ideas,
I'm like, we're going to find time in the show. Blake, you, you know, it's perfect. So I love that. And I'm a big immigration hawk. So God bless that. I love how the axios calls it purge. What a joke. Okay, guys. Um, all right. So here's my, here's my white pill of the day. The US men's hockey team is back on US soil. They are still patriots. They're still sounding like the perfect note. And they had to get rerouted to Miami because of the weather in the northern part of the country. Well, and so what do you do when you're on Miami? Now there's a lot of people, oh, you shouldn't be part of it. It's like, okay, loosen up. They just won the gold medal. They're, they're out in, uh, you know, a town known for having a nightlife. Okay. And they're, everybody's film on them. And guess what? They're still singing God bless the USA. So here's 378 of the US men's hockey team in Miami last night singing God bless USA 378.
I love it. What do you guys think in the chats? Send us an email, freedom at charliekirk.com. Do you love this? Do you love this proud, exuberant patriotism from team USA after they won the gold? I personally love it. I don't have a problem with cash betel enjoying the moment with them either. They invited them in. I think everybody needs to loosen up. Have a moment of just pure unadulterated national pride and relax. Like stopping a hater. This is great. You may not like that take. I like it. I think it's great. And by the way, here's the other thing I'd say Blake, here's, here's the thing I would say. You know what they don't love? They don't love masculinity. They don't like an FBI director, like pounding his chest, pounding the table, throwing back a beer. Okay,
maybe you don't drink. That's fine. Charlie didn't drink. I get it. But listen, adults sometimes have a beer, especially after a huge win. They don't like the men's hockey team, losing teeth and then draping themselves in the American flag and then going to a club in Miami because they get rerouted to a warmer climate with the Northwestern coming in. I'm telling you, what they really have a problem with is unabashed masculine energy, victory. We're not apologizing for it. And here's what else is great. President Trump promised and he delivered 405. This is the men's hockey team getting picked up by the president for the state of the union tonight. 405. Look at Miami International Airport. This is where team USA men's hockey team is on US Air Force 757 plane this after landing here in South Florida. This is where they, of course, celebrated their Olympic gold medal. I'm playing head into Washington, DC. We know the team potentially could make an appearance tonight at the state of the union address. All right, but Andrew, that's great. But Andrew, I've got something great for you. The real reason this is
amazing is because hockey liberals are a real thing. Apparently there's thousands of them and they're absolutely flipping out. I wanted to flag this. Some guy with the trans flag on X. He posted this one is personal. It's a scary time on hockey Twitter right now. We can't become hopeless. And the article is titled don't let them effing take it from you. And they are in full meltdown. So I can agree with you. This is a great celebration. You just had to bring us down with that. I love it. Everything's political now. Hi, folks. Andrew Colvet here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y. Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y. Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Y. Refi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They
can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America. And we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe. Y. Refi can help. Just go to Y. Refi.com. That's the letter Y then. Refi.com. And remember, Y. Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to Y. Refi.com and tell them your friend Andrew sent you. Welcome to the show. Kane from Citizen Free Press. I've been checking out your stack all morning. My friend, thank you for covering the Charlie Kirk trial right now with Tyler Robinson. It means a lot and there's some great. We've had some great developments there. So thank you for that. But there's so much going on, Kane. We had kind of a heavy show. Blake will attest in the first I say hour and a half and we're we're we're doing white pill moments. We're no doom or ism on this show right now. So we've got the state of the union tonight, Kane. What are you looking for? What notes do you want the president to hit? What do
you think your readers at Citizen Free Press want to hear? Yeah, those are good questions. You know, me, dude, I want to hear about the national debt. I'd love to hear Trump talk about a spending freeze. When you watch Trump every day and and have to sort of because of your job, watch all the press conferences like you guys do like I do, you know, you hear a lot of the same themes repeated. And so I'm a little bit fearful that, you know, as a junkie that I that I will have heard everything that I that Trump's going to talk about tonight in terms of emphasizing how the economy is better than people say, et cetera, et cetera. But you know me, you know the stack you saw yesterday two headlines in green italics that where I linked to Scott Besson when he was on Maria Barteroma show on Sunday morning talking about the national debt. So I would love, you know, that is the part of what I hope for in, you know, in Trump 2.0 is having, you know, control of both congresses that maybe we could finally realistically take a look at the big three
programs of Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, get those, start getting the conversations going about how to fix those programs. And also, well, and I threw it in as my second headline as a message to Trump yesterday specifically to him because I know he reads the site that, you know, that make that make this his legacy, make, you know, fixing the national debt his legacy. And so that's what I'd like to hear. Well, you know, Charlie, the first clips that you'll see of Charlie on TV, it was all about the national debt. He was obsessed with it and remained obsessed with it. He was a fiscal hawk his whole life. And, you know, I would say, I would say that a balanced budget, Blake is skeptical. I know, I know Blake's skeptical, but a balanced budget would be a massive massive accomplishment. I totally agree. Absolutely. We do have to go ahead. I'm just I think a way that he could maybe at least gesture towards that the past six months, we've had story after
story of massive fraud in government, a massive fraud of federal programs, Medicaid, every federal program getting looted at in Minnesota, in Maine, in Washington, in California. I think if you made that a big theme of his address about, oh, we're going to have a detailed auditing task force that will identify arrest, stop the fraud, deport the people committing it. I think that would be a good way to at least make gestures towards the debt. Even if I'm skeptical, this administration is ready to they're not going to I don't think they're going to take big steps on social security or any of those big items. Well, you know, I go back to Kane and you're you're you're a financial guy. People don't know that your background is in finance, but the tweet from Mark Halperin that we actually made a lot of, we actually had Mark Halperin on the show to talk about it. Apparently for Breeze Yo, one of the main pollsters for President Trump did a whole presentation and he outlined the sort of I would call them populist economic wins and how to message how to get through because
this sticky issue of the economy, people still don't feel the momentum. I mean, they came at, we're coming out of four years of Biden inflation and they're still not feeling that relief. So for Breeze Yo's got these ideas of like, you know, ban stock trading for Congress, right? You get these these scouts at these these actionable wins that would start kind of piercing the noise and getting into the population, the voting population. What do you think about the economic messaging Kane specifically tonight? Yeah. Well, I read that for Breeze Yo's stuff last week and it was it was good and he makes a good point about getting some wins. Getting to what Blake said, he Blake is right. Fraud beating fraud polls really, really well. Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen has sort of talked about he had a piece up talking about how Trump was doing the best actually doing the best bold wise when Doge was in the was Doge was in the news and then, you know, that maybe the missed opportunity in Minnesota was instead of concentrating on the on the deportation and the ice part, maybe concentrating more on the fraud part because all, you know, a lot more of America
can get behind the fraud stuff. In terms of, you know, a bold move towards Social Security, which Blake also mentioned, yeah, I don't expect that. I just want the conversations to start. You know, let's start talking about how we slowly raise the retirement age from 67 to 70 over 30 years. You know, nothing quick, you know, so the people don't freak out. Another, you know, I thought I have about why people don't really feel the economy getting better is to be honest, it's interest rates. I've got my neighbors across the street who are stuck in their house. They're the greatest people. They've got four amazing young athletes under 10. They homeschool these kids and they're stuck in this tiny lot. Why? Because of interest rates. They're homes at 3% loan. And so anyway, I think that'll be huge. I put a headline it in today about Austin Goolsbee who used to be Obama's, you know, economic guru about how he's, you know, still saying he won't lower rates. Thank goodness, Kevin Wars will be able to. So, and by the way, you know, I watch CNBC on mute most
of the day. And, you know, the 30-year mortgage has finally dipped under 6%. It's 5.99. Now granted, that's, that's still big. You know, those are still a big number compared to three and a three and a half percent. But it's going to get better. And I think that'll help. Um, well, okay. Yeah, I wouldn't mind. There was a story at a Fox business this morning that the purchasing power of home buyers is up over $30,000 under Trump, partly because of interest rates, but also partly because of rising incomes. And so as those interest rates continue to tick down, people are going to experience a little bit more flexibility. It's the, you know, I think the Zillow quote in there was it's the difference between having to settle and being able to actually choose a home you want to live in. So it makes a huge, huge difference for home buyers just to have even 30, $50,000 more money on the table to able to buy a home. So, but continue, you were, you were going. Well, whatever. I think that's going to help. I really think that'll help people's, you know, sentiment towards the economy. And look, I think that, you know, I think Trump is doing okay. I pay
attention to Rasmussen approval. I don't really, I mean, I look at all the other approval numbers that come out, but I really pay attention to Rasmussen's daily tracker and, you know, Trump slash Republican, let's say it's JD Vance in three years or in two years, you know, he can win. We can, we can pull it off in these numbers. You guys know that I'm not super optimistic about the midterms, right? Because what did, how many did Trump lose in 2018? He lost almost 40 seats or he did lose 40 seats in the house. So the house is going to be very tough. I think we hold the Senate just because of the numbers. And, and, you know, it's so vital for our movement, so vital that we, you know, that we win in 2028, the JD wins. And the last thing I'll say before I throw it back, I thought it was a great discussion on that Atlantic article that you guys had that, you know, that I have got in the stack from yesterday. If you care about America, you're obviously a Nazi. Like, that's how far, you know, that's just, it's just such ridiculous tribe from the Democrats. I hate these people. Anyway, well, okay, since you kind of brought it up. And then,
by the way, Huffington Post said, if you, you're feeling uncomfortable being patriotic, you're not alone. But we got to hit Don LaMonde. It's one of our favorite things to do on this show. He's going after the hockey teams here. 369. Look, I don't understand why anyone would be, want to be in the vicinity of this president at all, just being honest. If they call them the phone call, they'd say, no, thank, no, thanks. I don't, do you want to take the call? No. Tell them to call someone else. I'm not interested in being part of this. I'm not interested in being part of this when he doesn't, he is not a patriot. He doesn't care about this country. He doesn't care about the people of this country. He certainly doesn't. If you look at the citizens who are being rounded up, if you look at what he's doing to the economy, what he's done to health care, he doesn't care about this country. So why should I be smiling and kicking? No, not interested. I'll go party and celebrate somewhere else. I'll wait till I get home to go and party and celebrate with my family. And maybe like a real president. Maybe we'll, maybe one day Barack Obama will come to our game. Oh, of course. Of course, Barack Obama. By the
way, that's a 60 year old man talking like a little petulant child. Kane, your reaction to Don LaMonde. He's about as popular as month old convenience store sushi. I don't know, dude. I don't Don LaMonde. I mean, by the way, there's some awesome, there's some awesome hilarious videos about Don LaMonde on Twitter going back about 10 years. Excuse me on YouTube, whatever. The guy's your relevant. He speaks to his audience. You know, he's there for our outrage. Just whatever. You know, you got fired from CNN. Sorry, dude. Like, not a fan. It's just, it's really, it's really a shame that we can't have bipartisan patriotism anymore. It's just a shame. It's a shame what they've done to the country. It's the disease, right? It's the Trump brainworm. So whatever. Okay, and I have to spill the beans here a little bit. That picture that you see on your screen, if you're watching right now, is inaccurate. I have seen there's facial hair. There's you have a whole new look going on, Kane.
Show it. I don't want to, I don't want to divulge too much here. Show it. Show it. I will pull it up now. I listen, I'll pull it up right out. But here's why we're while we're doing this. Okay, hold on. I got it. I got it. We'll get it up just for you. What it is. It's going to be nine, nine years on May 1st for this website. And running this website, I didn't realize it when I showed up in Detroit last summer, I had lost like 20 pounds slowly by just basic attrition because you know, you, let's say you wake up in the morning and you think, do I need food or do I need to check the headlines? And when your office is like 14 feet away from your bed, like you end up in that in the office. And then, and then, right, you work until the, there you go. There's the front yard. Yeah, that's after a while. That is it. That's a beard. That's a beard. Okay, I think you have it. You have an oddly shaped beard. I appreciate it.
It's it's it's powerful. You're a man possess. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. So that's my weight is backup. People will be happy to know that the last year and a half, I've been getting back in the gym three, four days a week. I sneak out of the CFP headquarters, get in the gym. You know, that beard is why I never appear on camera for the heat. I don't, you know, I don't even get showers until like five or six o'clock at night because you, you wake up, I don't want to say I wake up in a panic every morning, but you sort of wake up and, and you know that like you missed headlines during the six hours. Well, listen, yeah, listen, can you got to take care of your health and you got that Charlie was always big on the health and personal hygiene is also very important. Okay, two elephants in the room at the state of the union. Okay, that's Iran and the Epstein files. What do you make of both, especially Iran? What are you seeing from CFP nation, especially on
Iran? Well, yeah, that's a good question about what the people think. Obviously a huge part of the America first thing is not to want to get involved in in foreign wars. So there's a natural trepidation that exists and that's there. But at the same time, it's a trust, you know, there's a trust Trump vibe. People really do trust them. Look, remember when in Trump 1.0, when he sent cruise missiles into Syria and people freaked out for 24 hours. Oh my god. And that's all it was, was, was a short little Reagan burst that people, you guys aren't old enough, but Reagan took care of Gaddafi with some cruise missiles in the 80s. I remember it. And, and it was just, it was just, you know, 12 hours of bombing and we got our point across. So anyway, people trust Trump. So I don't think that people are radically freaked out. If you're asking, you know, I've had a lot of people sort of ask me, what are the odds? What do I see happening there? Look, I would say that that Iran has been given fair warning. You know, Trump doesn't, Trump is well aware of that, of that,
what they say about him on Wall Street, the cop, the taco trade. And, and when it comes to these foreign policy things, Trump doesn't fool around. So I think Iran better, you know, I put it in the stack yesterday. There's going to be meetings in Geneva. I think on Thursday, Iran supposedly has a new proposal on getting rid of nukes. But if they don't do it, you know, Trump, this will be the last thing. I'll say, you know, there was that Axio story yesterday that said that Trump's big, you know, his top general reason came, maybe was showing a little bit of caution about bombing in Iran. And then Trump himself almost immediately put out a, a long message on true social that you alerted me to, by the way, Andrew. And I hadn't seen Trump's response to that. And that was important. I think, you know, you can, you can figure out a lot by seeing how Trump is reacting to certain stories. So the fact that he said that, no, that they're, you know, the raising cane really wasn't worried. And, and, and, and that Axio's got the story wrong. I think it tells you that Iran should be worried, that the Mueller should be worried. And, and then I'll quickly say on
Epstein, well, go ahead. If you want to respond on that, go ahead. Well, yeah, I'm going to respond on that just quickly. I got asked by Politico about people invoking Charlie's name with this Iran strike. And I, and I was very clear with him. I said, yeah, Charlie was America first to his core. He wanted a nation build in America. He didn't want foreign adventurism. None of it. But when it came to the first Iran strike, you heard a lot more chatter. There was a lot more people getting up in arms about it. And Charlie stood the course. He, he was adamant. Hey, we do not want foreign adventurism. We do not want nation building abroad. We want nation building here at home. But at the end of the day, this is why we elected President Trump to lead the military to lead this nation. At some point, you have to say, this is their job. They need to do the best they can. They need to make the best decisions they can. And I think you're seeing that after Venezuela, which was incredible by any metric. What they did in Iran, the first time, I think people understand Trump is a high violence precision attack kind of guy when it when it comes to kinetic warfare. Now, do we
want to avoid, you know, a regime change, drawn out conflict? Absolutely. Can they do that here? Question remains on, we don't know. We don't know what's going to happen. And I think Blake made a good point yesterday when he said that, you know, we, we haven't really been sold on the case for this conflict yet. Either Blake, I don't know if you have any thoughts there because you're, you're great on this. Yeah, I think honestly, if they need to make a case, state of the union is as good a time as any. But I think, as things stand out, I think this is what Charlie would be most frustrated about is if you are going to launch a regime change war, which I think at this point, strikes of the magnitude they seem to be planning would have to be, you need to be able to in, you know, a handful of sentences say why this is invaluable for America's national interest and national security. And right now, I think if it were to happen, I think people would just be confused. And they would say, why now? Why not a month ago? Why not last summer? Why not ten years ago? What is special about this moment? And at that point, you're just banking on, if it's
super successful, that justifies itself. If it's super successful and there are no American deaths, then that's great. But if there's any casualties at all, that's where the lack of a clear explanation becomes a big albatross. These are difficult decisions, right? I don't, none of us envy the president happening to make these very difficult decisions. But regime change through airstrikes is not easy. You have the IOTA hiding 300 feet underground at bunkers. So you don't even know that a certain amount of bombing is going to get rid of them. And then you have to deal with the fact that there are hundreds of other mollus to replace them. I mean, Iran is a fully structured theocracy now after 40 years. And it's not, you know, just getting rid of the IOTA or a few others won't necessarily lead. So these are all difficult decisions, but we trust in President Trump. We trust. And I think the base completely trusts him. As you said, eloquently, he's earned this trust. Yeah, well said. And by the way, today at 3 p.m., CIA Director John Ratcliffe is set to join Secretary of State Marco Rubio for a classified briefing on Iran. All right. There you go.
Kane, well done, my friend. Blake, well done. And Phoenix, we'll see you guys tomorrow. Tonight's the State of the Union. And we'll be streaming it on Charlie Kirk Show channels. Check us out there. For more on many of these stories and news, you can trust go to charliekirk.com.
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