
Trump’s Future Depends on His Immigration Crackdown
About this episode
Has immigration become the new litmus test for the Republican Party? In this episode, Ross talks to Matthew Continetti, the author of “The Right: The Hundred-Year War for American Conservatism,” about the party’s shifting coalition, the defining role of immigration and how today’s right echoes its past.
- 01:50 - What the Elon experiment (and fallout) tells us about the Republican Party
- 06:55 - Is there a tech right beyond DOGE?
- 10:09 - Is the “new right” really all that new?
- 18:16 - Where Trump’s agenda fits within the larger conservative story
- 25:16 - “Immigration is the biggest issue of our time”
- 28:39 - How border control will define conservatism around the world
- 34:05 - Is Silicon Valley out of step with Trump's immigration crackdown?
- 39:43 - Will Trump's ideas outlast Trump?
(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
Thoughts? Email us at [email protected].
Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Get every episode summarized
Each time Interesting Times with Ross Douthat publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Ross Douthat and Ezra Klein on the Art of Persuasion
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Bryan Johnson’s Blueprint for a 150-Year Life: Is It Worth It?
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Scott Galloway: America Abandoned Its ‘Unremarkable’ Young Men
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

How Older Americans Hoard the Future
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat