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Traitors:The Pinky Promise That Cost $220,800
Traitors S4 E11-Leap of Faith
🎙️ Podcast Recap Summary
This finale episode was pure chaos, drama, betrayal, and Housewives-level delusion — basically everything we live for.
⚰️ Mark’s Murder
The episode opens with Mark learning he’s been murdered. In true dramatic fashion, he climbs into a literal coffin surrounded by Alan’s fiery theatrics, saying, “See you in hell.” In his confessional, Mark says he believes he was closing in on a traitor — and his money’s on Eric.
🧠 Final Five Strategy
The final five:
- Rob
- Eric
- Maura
- Tara
- Johnny
Rob is laser-focused. His plan? Vote out Johnny, then Tara, and lock in Maura’s loyalty so he and Eric can win together.
Meanwhile, Johnny and Tara suspect Rob and Eric — and try to pull Maura to their side. But Rob has been building trust with Maura all season. And he’s counting on it.
Prize pot at this point: $180,800
🚁 The Final Mission – “Leap of Faith”
Alan needs two volunteers. Rob and Maura step up.
Helicopter. Loch. Floating answer buoys. Trivia about the season. $20,000 on the line — plus the chance to double it.
They crush it:
- $500 (Mark in the grave)
- $9,000 (Colton banquet question)
- $3,000 (Caroline shield mission)
- $7,500 (Lisa most votes)
They bank the full $20,000.
Then comes the dramatic twist: one of them must jump from the helicopter to grab the final buoy worth another $20,000.
Maura can’t swim — so Rob jumps.
He makes it.
Final prize pot: $220,800
Hero edit? Maybe. Manipulation edit? Definitely.
🗳️ Final Round Tables – Betrayal Season
First Vote:
- Eric → Johnny
- Johnny → Eric
- Rob → Johnny
- Tara → Eric
- Maura → Johnny
Johnny is banished.
But they still believe a traitor remains.
Second Vote:
- Eric → Tara
- Tara → Eric
- Rob → Tara
- Maura → Tara
Tara is banished.
Now it’s down to Rob, Eric, and Maura.
Rob and Maura vote to banish again.
Eric votes Rob.
Rob votes Eric.
Maura votes Eric.
Eric is gone.
👑 The Reveal
Only Rob and Maura remain.
Rob wins.
And then…
“I’ve always been a traitor.”
Maura is stunned. Pinky promises? Meaningless. Love Island loyalty? Dead.
Rob played her the entire game.
🎬 Reunion Highlights
Hosted by Andy Cohen (wearing Rob’s overalls — iconic petty king behavior).
- Andy says the finale felt “20% gayer.”
- Rob claims he “just got lucky.” (Sure, Jan.)
- Rob admits voting Colton out was pivotal.
- Lisa says the Banquet was the most iconic moment.
- Candace accuses Rob of feeding information to Colton.
- Maura says watching it back made her feel dumb.
- Andy grills them about “undeniable chemistry.” Rob confirms he has a girlfriend of two months.
- Lisa vs. Porsche lipstick destruction drama.
- “The Banquet Air Kiss heard round the world.”
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Andy asks Rob if he thinks that he feels like he outsmarted everyone and Rob's like, no, I think I just got lucky. And then we find out that Rob has promised to buy her a Birken. Welcome to WeWine Whenever. Grab your glass and join three Jersey Shore Housewives, Wendy, Kelly, and Laurie. As they dive into everything from Bravo drama to life's everyday chaos, it's unfiltered, it's hilarious, and it's the real talk you've been waiting for, from relationship to pop culture. We drink wine whenever, and we hope you do too. Don't forget to subscribe and give us a five star review. Cheers. Hi, welcome to WeWine Whenever. I'm Wendy. I'm Kelly. And I'm Laurie. We are talking about traitors season four episode number 11. It is the season finale, and it's called leap of faith. I don't like the name. Yeah, I'm not laughing. We start out where we left off with them all outside standing around outside around the coffin.
And we immediately find out that Mark is the one who's been murdered. I had no idea like how he was going to present it, but he just blurted it out. Mark, you were the one who's murdered. And you see Rob's arm around Johnny. That was like a bit much. Yeah. And then Mark goes and he lays in the coffin, and then Alan lights the ring of fire around the coffin, which I thought was a little crazy, wasn't it? He must have shot cameras down. He got out and then they lit the ring of fire. I mean, the heat alone laying in that box, I think, would have been too much. It's cold there, girl. And it wasn't that long that he laid there. I mean, they could put him in the coffin, lit the rings of fire. He could lay there for a couple of minutes, and then they turn the TV off, put the fire out, and he gets it to come out. All right. And how about Moira saying the majority of guys have cheated on her?
That's horrible. I mean, it is horrible, but I don't want to say it, but it doesn't surprise me. Not because of her, I just think because of the species. Yeah, I totally agree with you. This was a huge topic at the salon today. And we'll talk more about that when we talk about Beverly Hills. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The species of men, yeah, well, you know, just the odds of men cheating. Okay, yeah. And it has no reflection on who you are as the victim of the cheating. No, never know, because it's all about their insecurities. Right. But when you've been cheated on, you can't help but feel like why was it, of course. Of course. So I saw a social media thing where they said that they keep them very hungry at this traders. Thank you so much. Very hungry. That's why we see like people like they're over the show. I and the salmon, because there's only two proteins at the breakfast. There's eggs and salmon.
So that's why we see Rob like popping the eggs all the time. And there was a scene where Michael Rappport was like had the, the, his shot to his face and shot. Yeah, Wendy, but you brought that up in one of the episodes how he was like just piling the food and his men. Yeah. And I think he started up in an interview. Yeah, they said that he said that that's how he eats at home. Lord, but the food is quite scarce. There's really not a lot of food. And they all have their own, they all do their own glam. There's like no glam out there. And Rob, you could tell on a couple of them that they did their own glam. Rob's overalls and Natalie's that beige like body con kind of strapless dress. Yeah. I saw another post who knows if it's true, that those two items were like from the show, like Rob and Natalie didn't bring enough clothes. And they actually had to borrow those. So they didn't really overalls didn't belong to him nor that beige dress, but I don't know if that's true.
And it surprises me that the overalls didn't belong to Rob. Absolutely. But Natalie, okay, I could buy into that. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know if that's true. Where are you getting overalls in Scotland? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it was bullshit. And it fit him. Like it was. Oh, exactly. Yeah, like his style. Yeah, so I don't know about that. So the next, actually, after Markets murder, in his confessional, he says that he, he thinks he was murdered because he was closing in on the traitor and he has his money on it being Eric. I mean, he wasn't wrong. Yeah, he was completely right either. It's still so surprising that yeah, like nobody pegged Rob at this point. Well, except Johnny. Johnny did. Yeah. And then got Tara on it. So Eric, you know, Eric's, then they all, they all go into the castle and Eric's like, I somehow, I like tricked my way into the finale. Like in the morning in the breakfast, he's the first one to come in for breakfast. Yeah. And then more comes in and then Rob.
And the three of them are sitting there and they're talking about it, like, who are we going to do? And they're, they're all like, I think we need to do Johnny first and then Tara. And Rob says to more like, you need to vote with us. Like, it needs to be three of us. Yeah. And I listen, we see, we know we've said this when we were getting like Rob is a very good traitor. And I think he, like, he played a perfect game. He played a game. He deserved to win. He did. He did. Orderly 100% deserved to win, especially when he jumped out of that helicopter and swam in that lock. I got to tell you something about that. I just did. I felt like he wasn't swimming that fast. I was like, production must have been like, what? Like we got all these fireworks together and everything. Like you're getting this money. We're just going to make it look like you swam fast enough to win because I just didn't see it. Like, think about what he was wearing though. I know. I know. And that whole get up. Like, there was a vast on my thing.
Like, he was probably weighed down with that. Maybe. Unless it was freezing, the water was freezing. Yeah. I don't know. But him swimming act was like, he's never going to make it like he's not going to go faster. But I know. Well, I mean, we're talking about it already. But you know what? I was surprised that like nobody met him at the dock. Like I would have thought somebody would meet him at the dock, grab what he had and go put it in the chest. He had. I guess he had to do it. He had to do it. Yeah. Yeah. So Alan comes in and he announces that there's $180,800 in the prize. This pot at this point and that there's one last mission that 18 players have been killed so far or vanished, you know, a banished along the way. And he says, I'm going to need two volunteers when they're just before the mission. And they don't know what they're volunteering for. So more and well, the helicopter comes around. And then and then more is like, I volunteer and Rob's like, yeah, I volunteer. So initially they didn't, but then when it turns the corner, they know that they're,
you know, maybe in a helicopter. But what they need to do is this challenge is about the people that have, you know, been banished or killed, they have to be able to answer questions about them. I have to tell you, I think that they did such a great job with that too because I wouldn't have remembered those answers. Me neither. Nope. I thought, I mean, I guess we've been watching this for weeks now and they were there 11 consecutive days. Yeah. So it made sense for that. It was different. Yeah. And that's all. Yes. Doing the dishwasher and going to work and exactly managing everyone else's lot. Yeah, we're, yeah, where's my glasses? Yeah. We're watching three different shows and doing podcasts on them. Yeah. So exactly. It was fresh in their minds. Yes. Yeah. So what's going to happen is the two of them are going to go up in the helicopter. The other group of people are going to race down the river in the pontoons and there's going to be chests there. And they need to answer the questions that are in the chest.
If they answer the question correctly, they were going to win a sum of money. They could possibly win $20,000. So what happens is that their helicopters flying over, they have these floats that they need to drop down with the answers on them, right? The floats have dollar amounts on them. One float is $500. One float is $3,000. One float is, is it $7,500 in 9,000? 9,000. I remember that one. Yeah. Yeah. 9,000. So when they're over the question, they read the question. The other four are sitting around deciding what the answer is and they're radioing that information to them up in the helicopter. They have to decide how confident they are that they know the answer to the question because they have to decide which dollar amount they're going to drop, right? So the first question was, who was the last person that was put into the grid at the first
mission? And they guessed Mark and they dropped the $500 one, because they weren't, I guess that was the first one and they wanted to be quite smart to do for the first question. I do too. Now, like see how you're vibing, like from the helicopter, dad, like, I think that was a smart bet. Because they were winning all of them, right? Yeah, they got all the questions, they got all the questions. So that was good. Yeah. The next question was, who was the player opposite the murderer player at the black banquet? And they said Colton and that was the $9,000 one, which play, I mean, they went from playing it safe to, yeah, to risking it. To words, where is going to get them all? Yeah, which player started it ended on a shield thrown at the second mission that they got two shields and it was Caroline and they guessed that and that was $3,000. They knew that right away. They all said. Yeah. Yeah.
And then which housewife has received the most overall votes? And that was the reason we all knew the answer to that. Yeah. Yeah. Although, well, no, because she was up twice, I think that's why. Because Porsche, I mean, that was almost like a unanimous vote when Porsche. Yeah. And she was on the longest, too, right? At least it was. Yeah. At least it was on longer. So they banked the $20,000 and then there's still five minutes left to the challenge and Allen announces that he's stopping the clock. There's actually five minutes and 20 seconds and that they could double the 20,000 to 40,000. The final buoy is in the lock. So somebody has to jump out of the helicopter into the lock, get the final buoy and swim it up to where they're at. And there's five minutes and 20 seconds left to do that. And more is like, I can't swim like I said, I can't swim. Yeah. Right. So Rob, he does it and he gets the $20,000, the extra $20,000. And now their total is $220,800, which is awesome.
Because I think it was $250, was there possible total that they could have won? Yeah, $250, was the potential and they got $120,800, so that means they missed $20,200. Yeah. Which is not bad. It's not bad. Right. I mean, it's 10%, but it's like, yeah, it's not terrible. No, and I think most of it was in that one game where they were throwing it, too, where they kept giving the, they were naming the same person for all the, all the times. Uh-huh. Right. Yes. I think they lost a lot of money in that challenge. Yep, yep. Speaking of that challenge, you know what I heard is that there was music playing in their boxes. That's more okay. That makes sense. Yeah. That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So they couldn't hear. Because like I said, that the one point Rob like hopped over the box, like landed on the ground. All right. How do the people next to you not near you do that? Yeah.
Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Okay. So then he announces that very shortly, you're going to, you know, face your final roundtable. So what's different about the final roundtable is that the person that gets banished, we don't find out if they're a traitor or faithful. That was a twist. Uh-huh. Yeah. So Morris sits down with Eric and she said she feels good with, you know, with all of them. Rob talks to Mora and Rob says after watching him talk to Eric, Mora is definitely lying to one of us. He's like, because she said to me the same thing that she said to Eric, like he was starting to question her at that point, which I thought was interesting. What did you feel about that? I don't think there was ever a doubt in his mind that you think he just said that. I think he just said that. I think that Mora knew Rob was a traitor and she just went along with it. I think she's a very bad actress. You do. Oh, 100%. I know. And I think he promised her that Burkin bag very early on in the game.
You just helped me get to the end and I'll give you a little something, something. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, um, so and then Eric is talking about this is very scary because there's the love island to and Johnny and Tara are together and he's like out there kind of by himself. He thinks that there's two traitors left. There's five people. So I know 99.9%. It's not Tara. I was like, okay, Tara talks to Mora and she says to her, no matter what happens, like I love playing this game with you and like they both said, did I like, they both agree that they enjoyed playing the game together. I did. I actually thought that Mora might have gone with them. I did. I thought that Johnny and Tara might have voted for error. I did too. I did too. I was surprised. And I felt like when, um, I know I'm going backwards, but when they did that helicopter challenge, I felt like Rob and Mora were like on a date in helicopter. She said something.
What did she say? And he said, I can give you something hot and she was like, oh, Rob, I'm like, they, I think they banged. I'm pretty sure they banged a hoe knows who knows, but on peacock Rob does a kind bark commercial. Really? I haven't seen that. So then Rob says at the round table to Tara and Johnny, which I thought was, uh, a kind of an interesting twist. He said, wouldn't it be interesting if Alan had picked one of you, Tara or Johnny and that you had a lie to your best friend that one of you was the trader? Yeah. Very smart. Well, that's, you know, that's an interesting, you know, concept and then all of a sudden it's time to vote. I was kind of thinking, ooh, what if he like does a move where like he picks Eric gets out of the way? Yeah. He doesn't do that. Yep. Who Rob? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I, I, I wouldn't have been surprised because I didn't watch the show until today, but unfortunately I saw things on social media.
So I knew how it ended. We did. So I was playing all these scenarios in my head as I was watching the finale, which by the way, I do think was dragged out. I think we could have said this could have been a half hour episode. But I got it. I did think that Eric finally did do a good job at the round table though. Like finally, I was like, and I was thinking of myself and I could kind of tell Rob was kind of like, oh, yeah, like, because you see Rob doing like, he's got tells like when he did this, when, when Eric was talking, I was like, Rob's like, a little bit nervous. Like, where did this Eric come from? Like, did he like, did Eric just play this nervous part kind of thing? So when it comes time to vote, Eric is the first one to vote. And he votes for Johnny, then Johnny votes for Eric, and then Rob votes for Johnny, and then Tara votes for Eric. And then more is left. And who did you think did you think she was going to vote for Eric?
I thought she was going to vote for Eric. I did too. I thought it could go either way, but I wouldn't have been surprised if she voted for Eric. Because I really thought Tara got to her. Yeah. Second, I thought they did too. I thought that they really bonded. I thought that more was really listening. I did. I just had that feeling. But, right. Yes. And there was a, though, there was a second, there was a second when more and Rob were in the kitchen. And he picked up and swung around everything. And there was a second where I was like, like, maybe more and Rob have been working together since the beginning. And like, maybe he's going to like, split it with us like, there was, there was a minute where I was like, so Johnny's banished. He hugs Tara before he leaves, which I was glad that he did that. So then Alan announces, if you believe that there's a traitor left that you need to banish them. And he sits down with each of them and he talks to them and just kind of has like a little sit down, which was, was fine.
That's what we didn't need. Like, we didn't need that little sit down. Like that. We didn't need that. Then the final four, they show, they all show up. I loved the way that they were all dressed except for Rob shows up with the, with the overall one strap. Yeah. Now everybody else, because he's a hot, he's a hot boy. He could came out looking fine and fly something other than his, even just like a white t-shirt. Yeah. Or white button down better than, yeah, yeah, stop with the hero like, stop. We get it. Right. Get the shick. Yeah. Like to rush his nigs. We get it. Yeah. Yeah. I was disappointed in his outfit. Yeah. So then they each get a card and the card says end game or banish again. And what they do is they all four still thinks there's a traitor. They all still think there's a traitor. Of course. So they vote, Eric votes for Tara. Tara votes for Eric. Rob votes for Tara.
Moira votes for Tara. Tara's banished. So now Tara's gone. Now. Now they can all three end the game. Yeah. So Eric's thinking we did it. We did it. Eric's thinking we did it. But Rob and Moira say, no, we don't want to end the game. So they have to vote again. So now Eric votes for Rob. Rob votes for Eric and Moira votes for Eric and Rob and Moira are still standing. And Moira thinks that right and Moira thinks that Rob is a faithful just like her. And that they were going to split this Moira. Yes. Yes. Because you really think that I thought looking at her face. I mean, when she looks surprised, I don't know if you have to be gullible like Wendy Oasis. I know. I know. I think she knew. I think she knew. I think she knew. I didn't know. I don't think she did anything. I'm waiting on this. Rob said it. I've always been a traitor. The whole game.
She's so shocked. Like, I'm so stupid. She said, like, you pinky promise. Like, she, I thought, I mean, even when she came in on the canvas line ever, you promise you promise. There's 2k on the line, right? And but you pinky promise. Right. And I met you two weeks ago and you pinky, right? Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. All right. I'm gullible. I'm gullible. So that's the, I mean, that's the end of traders. So then the reunion starts right afterwards. And Andy is wearing the rob overalls. Did you see that? Andy what? The reunion starts, like right afterwards and Andy's wearing the rob overalls. First he has on a, first he has on a trader's cloak and then he whips it off and he has on it. And he's got on the overalls with. I was listening to it because I was trying, I finished the episode that I was trying to eat before we came on. So I was just listening to it. So I wasn't watching. That's funny. So that was, yeah, I thought it was funny too. That's very funny.
Yeah. You're going to say something else. I know. I forgot. I forgot. Sorry. I was. You're right. Totally forgot. I didn't realize, excuse me, that if two people were left and one was a trader, that, that was it. I didn't know that it went and the faithful gets nothing. I didn't realize that because I had never watched a show before. Yeah. Yeah. So on the after show, Lisa Renna says that there's a meme of her when they were in those cages that says me when I'm waiting to get off work. So I'd never seen that meme, but I thought that was funny. Other than me either. Yeah. So then after Andy comes out with the overalls, he actually does come out on the reunion stage with like the real, not, not the overalls, like real close. And he says that this season of traders was 20% gayer than any other season. I was like, What a crap. That's something funny. But there was a decent number of gay men on this show.
There were more gay men than straight men, right? Yes. I think there was, but I was surprised that we got a number there. And then Andy asks Rob if he thinks that like he, if he feels like he outsmarted everyone and Rob's like, no, I think I just got lucky. And then we find out that Rob has promised to buy her a Birken, more a Birken. So why would he do that? Because he felt bad. Maybe. Maybe. And maybe he really did like her, but he has a girlfriend now and he does and it's not more. He didn't have one. No, it's not. And he didn't have one when he, when he was in the castle, because that was a long time ago now at this point. I saw the girlfriend do a post, but he did. Yeah. It's not what I would have expected. She looks like a teenager. So I don't know. But Candace was definitely like Pest. She was Pest. Yeah. She was Pest. Yeah. She took away too serious. She was like, oh, well, if you just wanted the game for yourself, you should have said so. Oh, okay. That would have been a brilliant idea for Rob to tell Lisa and you that he just wanted to
get. What kind of dumb shit are you saying? Rob admits that a voting Colton out for him was pivotal. Lisa thinks that the banquet was the most iconic moment like on the show. I kind of agree. I think it was pretty iconic. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jason Kelsey is the one who got Donna into traitors. That's why she was. That's what she wanted. Yeah. Yeah. And Morris said she's never been more speechless in her life than when she found out about Rob. And then she's like, oh, I'm so stupid and somebody said, no, you're not stupid. And then Candace, she goes, perhaps it's a lesson in discernment. I was like, shut up. It's like a game of deception. It'd be like making that girl feel dumber. Stop it. And Angie says that there was undeniable chemistry between the two of you to rob and more. Was there ever a moment in the castle where you were crushing on each other? And Morris said, no, we are generally just friends. But that whole moment between them was very, it was very awkward when she was, it was
awkward. I was like, there were plenty of moments where it looked like they were crushing on each other. Yeah. I don't know about that. It just, it seems like there was something going on, but now he's got a girl. And she's trying to be like, oh, no, I don't know. It just wasn't vibing for me. I thought during the look really good, though, on the reunion show, no, no, I didn't like her hair. I didn't like it. I didn't. She looked. Now, this was, this was weird. Okay. So Candace says that Colton told her that Rob told him that she was a traitor. Those were the exact words because I rewound it and watched it three times. Then they're talking back and forth. And then Rob says, are you saying that I told Colton, I was a traitor, which is Rob said that, which is not what Candace said, Candace said the opposite. And then, yeah, she says, she said it again and Rob says it again.
And he says, why would I risk and tell Colton that I'm a traitor? It was weird because that's not what Candace said. Candace said that she was that he said she was the traitor. Is it true? Yeah. So I was like, no, I think, I think I can't, oh, I didn't watch. I didn't get to see the full reunion. So I don't know exactly what Candace said, but remember when Colton went to Lisa Rina and said, I know you're a traitor. So you protect me in the turret. I protect you at the round table. I think Rob did that with Colton. And maybe that's what Candace was saying to him. Is that not what Candace was saying to him? No, because I wrote it down. I wrote it down too. And I have Candace has a question for Colton. You said to me, Rob told you I was a traitor, me and her, and Colton said I was working with Rob. I thought we were both faithfuls. That's what Colton's response was to Candace when she said that to Colton. He said, I thought, you know, Rob and I were working together, but I thought we were both
faithfuls. And then Lisa asked Colton, what did you mean when you said to me, I wanted to take, I wanted to take me hostage as a traitor. Lisa said, I think it's an interesting word to use hostage. Colton said, well, you were in the turret and you said you wanted to slit my effing throat. Well, you didn't know that until you saw it on, you weren't in the turret with her. Right. Plus there was a huge, there must have been a huge part of this reunion that got cut out because member, there is, he walked off, right. And I think I think Candace and I think Candace and Lisa probably both went after him housewife style about the stuff with his girlfriend and the stalking and the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think she did. I think Lisa did. I think it was Adam like a fucking Chihuahua. They were Adam like a Chihuahua. Yeah, we didn't see any of that. The only part we saw was that little part about Lisa saying the hostage and then him coming
back with the response about you said you wanted to slit my effing throat in the turret, which again, he only knew that after he saw it on the show because he wasn't in the turret. Yeah. I do think that they filmed this reunion. They filmed it. No, I know. They filmed it a couple of weeks ago. So he would have seen that. But they saw the whole. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Of course, they see everything before they filmed the reunion, just like, yeah, any reunion I don't know. Yeah, I mean, we're used to seeing Housewives reunion. This was not a Housewife reunion. This reunion was was really honestly pathetic because I didn't like where they were doing all those fake shows like the highlands, like love islands. I love to. I thought they were cute. I thought they did another one. Yeah, I thought they're cute. You like them? No. I'll tell you, Michael Rappport sounded like an absolute ass. He did. He did. He did. He did. About anything that he talked about, he was just, I was just like, oh my god, he's just
like shut up. Just shut up to shut up. It was bad. No, he was very aggressive. He kept saying, I'm talking. You're not talking clip clip. I'm talking. You're not talking. And Andy was getting mad. He was trying to control the reunion, but Andy was really getting mad. And Andy said, this is not a Housewife reunion to him. He said, this is not a Housewife reunion. I loved and Johnny came back at Natalie because Natalie was getting pissy too. And Natalie was getting pissy and she was getting pissy with Johnny Weir. And Johnny Weir was like, well, because Natalie, I mean, Johnny and Tara were doing it separate from the Olympics. They were in Milan. In the Olympics. So Johnny Weir was basically like, well, like we're at the actual Olympics and like that's competition. So kind of like don't come from me. It was so good. It's really good. Well, because Natalie said, was it Natalie or was Natalie? It was Natalie. Michael. Uh, silver medalist Johnny. Oh, I think that was, I think that was Michael Rafferforce and silver medalist Johnny.
And John is like, I did not, I did not win a silver medal. Actually, I did not win any Olympic medal. I didn't know that. I thought it was cool. Neither. I thought he was, I thought he was an Olympic gold medalist. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. No. He didn't, he said I didn't win any Olympic medal. Well, that's so funny. Well, that's so funny. Well, that's so funny. Yeah, but Natalie got, Natalie got real pissy too. Her and Candace took it way too serious. Yeah, they did. You could tell. I mean, we said it the whole season. She played this game so emotionally, Natalie, way too emotionally, which is how I would have been so that I could never go on this game, especially knowing that they don't eat a lot. Forget it. Yeah, forget it. So they did some little thing where they did the best costume. So they did too hat to handle for Moira and showed all these clips of her with different hats. And in plain sight, and it's so funny, I was laughing because I wrote this down so many times, and I never said it about Candace that shook like a flight attendant. I think you did say it.
I did say it. Yeah, but it was so funny. Yeah. I didn't, I thought I didn't say it. And then I was like, oh, look, flight attendant, just like I was thinking. And then they did sleeveless in Seattle for Rob. And then Lisa did her whole Lisa fucking random thing. Moira won. So she was like, oh my god, I won something. So that's all I have for the after show, the reunion. Yeah. The only other thing I have is Andy S. Portia, if she was surprised that her fellow housewife Lisa voted for her. And she said, yeah, I was surprised. And she's like, when I got home, I, because she had all her Lisa lips, I crushed all of them. I broke them all up. I smashed all those lipsticks. And Lisa's like, well, that's okay. We went out of business anyway. That's great. Okay. Yeah. That's potty. Hope you didn't like any of them because you can't reorder it. Yeah. Exactly. And then the only other thing about the traders that I wanted to add is Lisa was doing a promo for her book, which I think I'm on, I was on chapter five that just came out and she
was doing it on Friday on Good Day, New York. And it came up that TMZ reported and she confirmed that she was roofied at the trader's premiere party at the Abbey. And supposedly though, people that's places known for that. Yes, it is. Yes, very common there. Yes, it is. So I don't necessarily think it was a trader person per say, no, it definitely was not a trade. I definitely think it was not a trader person. But what I do think is the fact that it was a premiere party for this show, there should have been some sort of security to make sure that this kind of thing doesn't happen. Absolutely. But maybe, maybe it does happen there all the time. Maybe somebody wasn't careful with their usual juice that they say for that. Maybe it was inadvertent. Like maybe they didn't mean to do it at that premiere, maybe the secret bottle got taken out when it wasn't supposed to or something by accident because it's dumb to do it with
something like that. Like, yeah, that's just dumb. So that made me kind of think, well, maybe somebody like got the secret sauce out inadvertently. That's possible. At least that's what was my thought. That's possible. So that was at the premiere party for traders, which was the first night that it aired. So that was several weeks ago. Yeah. And then supposedly, actually her book or no, that she, that she brought it up on an interview. Yes. Correct. And then supposedly the next traders is supposed to be everyday people. No. Well, they're casting for it. Oh, they're casting. And for it. Okay. But there is another traders coming out. I think, okay, before that one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are casting for everyday people. And I guess that's it for traders. So we'll have to wait and see. I'm so glad we watched this show, though. I really enjoyed it. I'm a big fan now. I, what? Hey, I loved it. I loved it.
So I had said, I must have said it when you weren't on it, I must have said it when we were recapping something else to Kelly that we should maybe do other traders, maybe do season one and two. And someone on social media said to us, we really should do Australia, Australia traders. Yeah. So we know anybody like the part about this that I liked was that we might, I don't, I don't know. I have no idea to be honest with you. Like I like knowing all of the people. I mean, I didn't know the gamers. Uh-huh. Because I don't watch big brother or I know survive or anything like that. But that was okay. I liked them. I liked them on the show. I just felt like I liked it because I knew the majority of the people on it. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Well, we could try it. We'll have to wait and see. We'll try and see. We'll try and see. All right. All right. Well, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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