
About this episode
Bob and Jen Bevan are a married couple from Cleveland, Tennessee — 29 years in, two kids, three grandchildren, and owners of Witt's Frozen Custard. What they didn't expect was that the path to real connection would run straight through the Core Emotion Wheel. In this episode, Bob and Jen share what it was like to enter Connection Codes from very different starting points — Jen as a certified coach, Bob as a self-described "highly recovering codependent" — and what happened when they finally had language for what was breaking them apart. From Jen's raw confession that shame felt like a knife telling her she couldn't exist, to Bob's discovery that he hadn't been able to access "lonely" for decades, this episode is for every couple who wanted to love each other better but didn't know how.
Key topics covered:
- Why one partner going first in Connection Codes doesn't have to mean the other gets left behind
- What codependency does to your ability to feel your own emotions
- Shame as a barrier to coming out of hiding — especially in church culture
- The difference between drowning in emotion and processing it
- Bob's story of doing the Core Emotion Wheel with his son after a major fight — for the very first time
- Glenn's "relationships require depth, not time" reframe
- Jen's breakthrough: "To feel is to connect — with people, and with God"
Guest bio:Bob and Jen Bevan are based in Cleveland, Tennessee, where they run Witt's Frozen Custard and stay deeply embedded in church community. Bob brings 25 years of pastoral experience and a psychology degree; Jen is a Connection Codes certified coach. Together, they're proof that the tools work — even when you come in from two totally different directions.
Resources & CTAs:
- 🎡 Free Core Emotion Wheel → connectioncodes.co/wheel
- 🏅 Certified Coaching → connectioncodes.co/coaches
- 📚 Foundations Masterclass → connectioncodes.co/foundations
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