TIGER: Tiger Ali Singh on Dutch, Puerto Rico, Jerry McDevitt

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4:25You You You You You You You You You You Hello and welcome to the latest episode here of Tiger I'm your host and JP Jump Poss from the two man power trip of course. Johnny is the former and deputy of the super star himself. Mr Tiger Ali Singh Tiger. Welcome in. How you doing today, sir? Thank you, brother. I'm excited to be back, and I know you got a whole big line up here, so let's get going. Now, I wanted to get something out of you just to start off because we've been talking about this guy and that guy, but I want to talk about you in particular and kind of get some feedback because I've been getting a couple messages here and there and then a few recently more focused on when you were kind of talking about behind the scenes, but we were kind of talking about your character in front of the scene. So what I want to get and what obviously a couple of fans wanted to know as well was behind the scenes versus the character. You know, we were talking about the Slurpee and the turbines and you know, the Indian stuff and kind of, you know, being maybe discriminatory a little bit there. We know that there was a lawsuit as well and obviously we've talked a little bit about that. So just break it down the character versus the actual behind the scene stuff and the discriminatory stuff versus the like was it joking or were they actually bringing out like backstage stuff and putting on TV and were they taking stuff from TV and putting it backstage.

5:43You know, John, that's a really great question and I'd be more than happy to share it with you. So you are correct. There is an in-ring character that you get kind of creative input and this and that. And then there's the behind the stage, you know, your private life where you're traveling, you're in the hotels. And but that's private life, right? That's not your character. So there were in this was in our case and I can't go into so many details because of the settlement and all that. But at the end of the day with God's grace, we were victorious. That's number one. And what we had presented evidence that there was racial discrimination against me by X amount of people. It was, you know, the hierarchy from, you know, some executive members. We may have mentioned the past one in particular. And it trickled down.

6:50And maybe one or two. As I've said before, you know, there's peaks and valleys in a career, right? So when you're at the peak and you're getting that unbelievable promotion, there's lots of momentum and talent that may not be on your side and an NBS and all that shit. They don't want to show it. They're there. You know, promoting you and all that. But then when you're in the valleys and I'm sure a lot of talent can save the same thing, those same individuals now start shitting on you, right? You know, mental, we call that mental abuse right now, but picking at you, picking at you, that bullshit, right? So at that time, that's what it happened. I never had any issues when I was at the summit. Hello, the American goal pulling in the ratings and all that. But when I started getting in the valley. There were these things happening. And it's all of a sudden like your, your, your, your up for the pickings, right? Like everyone knows that it's open season. So those that I believe are really envious and insecure themselves, we call them, you know, IE bullies.

7:55They really come out and show a lot of their attributes and they start kicking the tires and doing these kind of comments and nonsense. And with you, it's about their lack of, you know, stability in their life and unhappiness in their life. That's what they're kind of exuding onto a third party. And I know I'm not the only example. I know recently, Godfather mentioned something about picking on Steve Richards. I think you had mentioned something like that or I heard it. So these things are happening. So in my particular case, there was some racial discrimination, you know, in the backstage. You know, that were taken from the, they had seen it on the character in the in ring. And now they started, you know, pecking at you in private life. In the, in the hotels or in the airport in front of everyone, right to try to get a reaction out of you. And, you know, like most know, the last thing you do is ever give a reaction to a bully. But it doesn't mean that it's still not, you know, compounding, right?

9:00I'm the first one to say I'm not, you know, like a saint or guru that, you know, can totally detach from the world. That shit still has something, even though you're not, you know, reacting. And there was, you know, definition of my character, like my in the back, there was ridiculing. There was my turbine, you know, which is a very sacred thing that was desecrated in the back. So, the back cigarettes and beer and shit like that were put into the dressing room never in front of me. And always without any witnesses. And then just stuff like that, right? And then, so that's that part of it. And then that would parlay. You would see in the in ring character. So I'm not the one to go out there, especially after a success of Hello, the American go to be say, I'm a taxi cab driver, whatever, or to tell other talent, hey, you know, I really love it. Do it.

10:00But it was done because I'm to be hast of it was Bruce Fritchard that it was actually the one to suggest you should go out there, Tiger and do a twist and say, you know, when you look at me, I may look like a taxi cab driver or a slurpee and all that. But I'm not. You know, my friends in the back of why are you even giving that message? I said it's Bruce and then everyone knows creative. So if I were to push back on it, you get recommended. So I just went along with it. So. And this is what their lowering was trying to do. You know, the Jerry McDivitts and all that. They were trying to do a bait switch. So whenever all this racial and all that, they were saying, oh, but look at in the ring. So you're saying your taxi driver. Other wrestlers are saying your taxi driver. Everything's all a warm and fuzzy and great. And our lawyers, which were very expensive, but amazing lawyers. Big shout out Dorisie Whitney. Downtown Manhattan on park Avenue. So you know the cost of pretty penny.

11:01They said, no, listen, let's bring the focus to what the merit of this claim is. I'm not talking about the in ring nonsense because you can try to write that off its story. But we're talking about the private life behind the scenes in the dressing room in transit in the airports in the hotels, desecration of, you know, the turbine and, and, and these slanderous racial comments that were made. So that was the basis of it. We said from there it exasperated and stemmed and into creative because they couldn't get a reaction on a tiger here. So they go, let's see now if we can get it out of. Something reaction from him in the ring, which I never did. I just went along with the story board and the story ideas in the ring. So the merit of that racial discrimination was behind the scenes. The other part of it is my accident, right? Once again, God's great. We were victorious on that because the Doppler reports, the rain and, you know, that's the monsoon season.

12:07I, you know, I don't know what they call it, at tropical storms. So it would not be raining throughout the day. It would just come in, John and just drop like a bucket. A few minutes and then it's gone again. It dissipates. But the precipitation levels at that time. It was crazy. So that was vindicated. And what they try to do was say, well, he wrestled for a third party company. So we're not liable. My contract was a WWE. I was being compensated by the WWE wall I was in Puerto Rico. So it, you know, my, my lawyers did a phenomenal job to show a correlation in that. Okay, they lent him or whatever, but he's still under the contract here. And then they brought up this document. That I had signed a waiver, a release waiver, indemnifying. WWE and the local promoter over there.

13:07If I were to get injured. I had never seen that ever before. So when they brought it up, my lawyers asked me, I said, I didn't assign it. And it was signed Tiger Ali Singh. So as you know, legal document, you're not signing your character name. I'm not like the warrior or something like that. Yeah, yeah. So and then they brought in writing experts. I don't know what they called them, what the legal term of those guys are. And they proved that it was forgery. I don't know how many times I had to do Tiger Ali Singh in my legal name, but they, you know, better than I do. But they do an analysis of the curvature and all that kind of stuff. We go, Tiger didn't assign this. So there was, there's a lot more. But I think that, I think I've answered your question. You know, more or less that that's kind of where that was about. And the basis of the legal suit. And the basis of the taxi cab driver, the all that stuff, you're just saying that.

14:08Because that's what the creative is asking you to do. Not necessarily what you want to be saying or doing. Of course. Yeah. My, my thing was, hello, American go, right? And yeah, so this came after and I remember it was. Bruce that actually initiated said you should be doing this and that. And I think it, I don't know where it was, if it was in England or. It was over here. And then it just, it was acquigning the phrase and all of a sudden they just. Said, you know, the other talent will do it. So if someone came up to me and said, Tiger, are you okay with this? And that, first of all, I don't even recall that happening. But if it did and it's in ring and it's character and storyline. What am I supposed to do? Go against the creative? You know, so I go, yeah, I'm cool. Just do it. You know, so that's where that came from. I didn't realize they were pranking you behind the scenes as far as, like, you know, you're trying to get into your turbine and stuff because you hear that they don't let the people's bags and different stuff like that. I didn't realize it was actually them doing that to the, the turbine. Obviously nobody's going to quote unquote see it. Nobody's going to be around. But somebody did it.

15:08Yeah. And, you know, like we said. You, you know, or as, you know, the infamous words of one who always tagged that line, you read what you saw. And I'm all about Carmen, good energy. And I'm in a really great place. Like I said, I hold no grudges. I would vindicated, you know, and, and it's in the court of law. I'm not there, you know, to try to prove myself to any talent or executives. I can give a shit about that. We were vindicated in the court of law. And that was one thing I noticed. It was really crazy. So I'm not Christian. I'm of seek faith. But I'm raised. I was raised to respect all religions, right? Because my, my belief is there's one God, but you know, I'm probably referred to by many different names. And so when they asked us to swear on the Bible, giving oath, you know, I couldn't believe it. Like how many people were putting their hand on that Bible. That were a Christian.

16:08And they were just blatantly lying. But once again, like I said. The objective of someone testifying is not to make the case. It's just to answer the questions. It's your lawyers that are there to make the case. So that's one thing I remember. There's one little thing I'll tell you. So there was a makeup show at the skydome. And I think you're familiar. You know, makeup show something happened. You couldn't do it. So they're trying to find in the calendar to redo that event and that venue because your sponsors paid money, right? And tickets are sold. So there was a makeup show. And I fought too cold, Scorpio, who I love. Big shout out to him. I love him. What a great athlete. I was a big fan of his in Japan when he was in New Japan. And you know, I was, I was too slow to get my hand up. And he does that amazing kind of wheelhouse kick or something. It's really sick. And he caught me on my chin.

17:08And for a moment, I was knocked out in the ring. And anyways, I came to we finished the match. And I'm sitting on the side in the back and he came and checked on me. Jack Lanz, God bless his soul came and checked on me. And I just said, it's my bad. You know, I missed a kick. And so over here, unlike US, we have this amazing social health care system. That's, you know, like everyone has insurance or to go see health health care. So to go see a dog. You know, for even a hang mail, you could go see your doctor. So shortly after that, I went to my doctor because they had. I forget the technical term of it. They had. You know, they wanted my health records from my doctor. So I don't know. Sapina them or something like that. So they went back and they saw. I think five or 10 years of my health records. And they saw. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I think five or 10 years of my health records. And they saw empty visits to my doctor.

18:09And in that they showed I had a visit to my doctor after this situation, right? Because I was knocked out. And I had a prior concussion protocol. So everything was fine. So there are lawyer in the case, Jerry McDivitt. He goes. And they had my journal. I used to keep a journal of all my dates, all my bookings. And they go. That show never happened tiger. Right. I go, excuse me. They go, that show never happened. Why didn't you just admit it? That you had a Maryland. Marital dispute with your wife. And in that she hit you upside the head with a frying pan. God is my witness. This was their lawyer. And I looked at him. And I just said, no, sir. That's not the correct. I got a spinning kick from. On this day and it was a makeup show Skydome. Because are you trying to tell me we are dealing with a billion dollar company. There are no records.

19:10Tiger on that calendar. That show there was an event. Let alone a makeup event at Skydome on this date. So just admit it tiger. You're making up this. It's a no sir. I'm not going to say that. And they show the calendar. W W never had anything. Obviously the talent that were there. They knew about it. Because they're all under contract. No one's going to come and say any ill will. To their employer, right. So how they got it. They had. I don't know if it's subpoenaed or they got some. It was Jim Ross's journal. He was a. He was a. He was a. He was a. He was a. Or his hard drive. And remember prior to this he testified to that show never happened. And in his notes they showed there was a makeup show at Skydome. So once again, he was discredited. Number two, then the Jerry McDivitt.

20:10He came out. He goes. We like to apologize. To Tiger. For that line of questioning. Yeah. There was a makeup show. And that's how it was. It was like. The only one of the more. Why did they just throw it under the rug? I brush it off and I'm going. Shit, this guy, he's must have spent a couple of hours just. Drill me. Just trying to wear me down. So that is one of those things I remember. Um. Probably. You know the situation. You know Jerry after that went to Jim Ross and he's like, what the hell are you doing? You gave me bad info. And God bless her, you know she was always good to me and my mom and my family, Linda McMahon. She was in every date. she was sitting there with Jeremy Diving. So she heard everything. So she didn't get anything secondhand. So all of this stuff, and they're smart, and they're saying, this guy's just killing us. Our own guy is just breaking and tearing our case apart. I know some people will hate this,

21:10but I mean, guys, wrestlers, I love Jeremy Diving. I've talked to him, I've interviewed him, I've talked to him privately. He's been super nice to me. So it's funny when I hear people say this and that, and I know he's a bulldog in the courtroom. But the guy that I know, he's one of the nicest guys, just as far as just like, he has no reason to be nice to me, because I'm like a little ants compared to him, but he was always super nice to me. So whenever I hear stories of the courtroom and him do this, I'm like, wow, he's like brutal in there, but obviously he's way different in person. Let me tell you something, and I heard it from person experience, because obviously when this shit was going down, you know, one of the people I reached out to, to try to get counsel from was Martha Hart, right? Because, you know, the tragedy she went through all this and that. And she told me about the situation, like, you know, he's a bulldog and all that, but after that, he came and gave candies to her kids, and he was just sweet, and he wasn't like that in private with me. We were, but he wasn't rude or belligerent outside of it, and he wasn't dismissive.

22:11He was a smokeaholic, though, I noticed that. He was smoking like a chimney. But his assistants were very nice, and when they were seeing this, how are you, big fan? Stuff like that, right? So, yeah, so it was all good. I know Kevin Sullivan during the Hall of Nash, W. W. Obviously, WF invading them. He had a deal with McDivitt. He said in the courtroom, he was vicious. He said he saw him in the bathroom. He said he was so nice to him. He's like, oh, you know, joking around with him and stuff, but he said as soon as he gets in the courtroom, like, man, he is, he's roughly, he gets towards it to a different person. Like in-ring character, right? Yes, yes. Yeah. It's like you come out on that stage and the stage is the courtroom in front of the judge and the judge is the fan, if you gotta, you gotta do your gimmick, you gotta play it up. Yeah, I know a lot of people go, well, there's ambulance chastles and all that. We spent at that time, I can tell you this, like the mid six figures at that time.

23:12So you can just imagine is probably, you know, the low seven figures now. But illegal cases are not easy. And so when they saw also our legal representation, Dorsey Whitney, you just do a Google back. They're off the charts. So then you know, the other side then knows, holy shit. These guys are serious, they're bringing their A game, it's not like just, you know, throwing me something I'm walking away. And I'd be honest with you, I felt really guilty in the sense that it was costing our family so much money. And it was my mother. Once again, God bless her. She came to me and she said, I told her, it's breaking me up. And she says, I don't want you to give it a second thought. You're my son. And I want you to have your day in court. When lose her draw, I want you to have the thing, an opportunity to get it off your chest. And then you will, you won't be second guessing.

24:15You know, someone got the best of me. Someone did this to me. I never had a chance to hold him accountable. So I love my mom to death. You've already heard that earlier. But unfortunately, we live in a society that in order to get your voice heard or have any, you know, legal representation, it costs you money. If you don't got money and that should tell you, I'm sure there's lots of people that have been wrong, not only the WW, but I just did the world in general, but you hear less of it because it cost you a lot of money to fight for your rights. That's the way the legal system is set up. Just to throw this out there for that makeup show, it did about 15,000 people at the skydome. Kind of hard to forget this just because a couple of good matches on this card. So triple H versus the rock for the ICT title at this point. Mankind, a big foley versus Terry funk, X-Pock versus Jeff Jarrett, Shamrock versus Owen Hart, and the main event of Stomper Steve Austin

25:16versus Kane and the Undertaker in a triple threat match. So pretty damn good show to kind of throw under the, under the rug and kind of forget it and pretend it didn't happen. So loaded show definitely loaded. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, that's the show. Yeah. And it shows me with Scorpio, right? Yes. And you've scored you as a second match. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it was. So just changing gears here. We were talking about the turbine before. And this guy, I know he always pops you. He always pops me. I think he's hilarious. He does some crazy stuff. He says some crazy stuff, but you got to love him. I found this from you. These are some pictures I went through a little bit of an archive that you had sent me. Check this out. This is Dutchman tell wearing the turbine that we were talking about. Obviously, this is with you in Puerto Rico in IWA. Puerto Rico. Look at this. He's got the turbine on. Here's another one. Look at this. He's got the turbine. Dutch is where it is.

26:17What is what is going on here? He's a talent and profile. He looks, he never looked any better. That's so funny. You don't think obviously he's a sawdiner and everything else. It's like, I can't picture him wearing the turbine. And you said he did. And then I got the proof right here. This is, this is great. What the heck is going on here with the Dutch? And we're in the turbine in Puerto Rico. He's he's a genius. Like, you know, in retrospect, you know, a lot of people when they're young, you know, and this is shout out, great guys, Deel O'Ne Chasse, right? And they were really uncomfortable. And I can't blame them, right? At that time. And, but it was an opportunity to be in the limelight and to be on television and to be on raw and to be in the forefront, being contenders. But when you're young, you're thinking like it's not, you know, cool or, you know, the ridiculing behind the stage and, and my dad, he always said, he goes, are they going to pay the bills when the shit hits the fan?

27:18Who's going to help you? Are they going to pay a bill? They're going to put food in your mouth. So you need to have a really different perspective and go, I don't give two shits about anybody. Look at Red Rooster, Terry Taylor and all that, right? He was paying the bills. And I met you. If you talked to Deel O'Ne Chasse in hindsight, because they're more mature now, we're older, right? We're hoping. And how would they would approach it now? Like if they could talk to their younger self and I bet you, they would talk to themselves and said, don't give two shits about anybody else. You're being booked, you're being paid and you're on the stage. I bet you. So that's where that's that's been tell had, it was the maturity and my God, he's worked all around the world and he's seen all the grades. And and you saw, I don't know if you're going to be able to show, you saw my work, you saw my work rate in Puerto Rico, because I finally had the opportunity to do house shows. I was on fucking fire over there.

28:19And that's looked at it and he goes, shit, this guy's great. I love it. He's easy to deal with. I never talked back to anybody. I would always put my best performance. And you know what I mean? A lot of people can say he was hard to deal with like, you know, the other blow hard, he was hard to deal with. He was hard to fuck that. Do you have any rap sheet? Cause you know, these guys are always ready to mark up. This guy's asshole. This guy no showed he did this. Mine was impeccable. I didn't have one blemish, no drinking issues, no fight issue, no drug issue, never being laid issues, never missing shows issues. So that was all brought up as well during the trial, right? And they were discredited. But Dutch mental, he's so smart. And he goes, okay, I see Tiger. Things are going great. And he's there. Remember, Dutch was on the one that brought me in. It was direct from WWE. It was Savio Victor who had a long standing relation with my dad and Miguel.

29:21I've known Miguel forever in a day. So Dutch was there as one of the bookers before that was but, but the bush lackers butch was there. So he was like Luke. Yeah, Bush like Luke was there. Great guy. I love him too. So it was just a great opportunity for him and I to kind of connect. You know, he was, he was dealing with cheeky star or something. He was managing a lot of of the stable. So it kind of made perfect sense. He asked me, Hey, Tiger, do you have an extra turbine? And maybe one of your shirts with Tiger on it. And I said, sure Dutch. Like would you like it? And he goes, yeah, I'll wear it. I'll come with the ring. And it just worked out great. I learned a lot from him. He was, you saw my work rate over there. I was so fast. He was trying to slow me down. He was like, Tiger, take it easy. Take it slow down. I said, I can't. I feel it feels great. You know, I had lots of fun. I had lots of fun with Dutch. I don't have any ill word to say about Dutch. He was always great with me.

30:23I know you had mentioned. I heard someone else, you know, he had said, something like, you know, had the big thing and then he no showed he never came back. Well, they spent the next five years of my life, trying to recuperate from this, you know, supposed fictitious concussions, right? Right. So maybe you didn't know about the whole truth, right? But it was all proven in court, which, you know, a lot of the talent are privy to like some of the ones that we talked to before. And they want to be good soldiers. So they got to stand, you know, next to, you know, the executives of WWE, because they wanted an opportunity to get back and they don't want to burn the bridges. Let me just tell you something, brother, I blew that fucking bridge up. I didn't give a shit because at the end of the day, you know, you know, my dad's a huge warrior, but my mom's even a bigger warrior. And when she said, when you've been wrong, you've got to fight for your rights. That was more important to me than another fucking payday, right? So it wasn't anything personal. Again, Synsic Man or Lyndon McVan God bless them.

31:23They were always good to my family. And I'm forever indebted for them, give me an opportunity. But I was wrong by a couple of those people and I wanted them to be known. And they were under and I even told my lawyer, it's that I feel bad about, you know, Vincent Tiger has nothing personal. This is under, you know, the WWE flag and they got to be held responsible because those are the ones that are repping them. So, but yeah, that's, that's how it worked out. Vincent, that was a great confidant when some of those supposed agents from WWE would come. That was a bullshit too. And then he would tell me, he goes, fuck, you know, like they're saying, man, Tiger could work, man, he's good. And he would always tutor me on what we can improve. I had a great time. I remember there was one incident. Maybe he might remember it. So WWE, once in a while, was sent some of the talent, right? And I think I was wrestling Andrew Martin. God bless his soil test. Who I knew, you know, he was from Whitby and we both met when we were in

32:25Brett Hartz and in Calgary. And so he was one of the guys and he was supposed to put me over. We were having a one-on-one match and I'm sure you can dig it up. It was a great match. And I just heard yelling and all that shit and Dutch came into our dressing room because at that time, I'm one of the boys. So I was changing and, you know, with, you know, the locals, you know, I wasn't going to, oh, Debbie, Debbie's here. I'm going to go change with them. And fuck that. I didn't give a shit. I don't kiss anyone's ass. So I was, I was living with these guys and I was changing. So Dutch would come in after talking with Andrew Martin and you, and the walls only went up to maybe, I don't know, 75% of them. There was an opening, I guess, for the airflow and shit from dressing rooms. So we could hear it and then he came back and I just played dumb. You know, God damn it. He was, what do they expect? You know, they're coming over here and they want to just go over our talent, right? They're here to hide and enhance and help, right? And as it went strong, you know, he doesn't want to put you over and all that.

33:26And I told him he has to, when I said, you don't worry about that. I take care of it. It's all good. It's all good. So then I met with test and, you know, I was closer to them. So you go, I'm no problem. Put a little bit of your, bring him here. I'm a big star. Shit, I don't want to look bad. And I just worked the match. When I said, listen, we'll do kind of like, you know, a bullshit finish or something like that. You'll look good. I'll do a quick roll up. When you look like a hero, you beat the shit out of me all over. I have no problem, right? And maybe hit you with gimmick with a flag or something at the end. You do that tiger. No clean finish. I go, no, no clean. Let's just, okay. We didn't have to be like, fuck, as long as I was there for bad. Just make everyone happy. And I learned that lesson from my dad. My dad will tell you story. Maybe Bill Lady remembers, you know, dad was king, right? Especially the 70s in New Japan wrestling. So a lot of Americans came over. God bless, I'm Bill Lady. He was one half of the Mongols. There was a tag team, right?

34:27He had a little ponytail. My dad would say. And so him, my dad and waiter were going against the Mongols, which was Bill Lady and another wrestler, which I don't recall. And my dad remembers the story. Like it was yesterday. We were just talking about it. So he goes, the agent of that time would come in and it was the referee. The name escapes me, but he was really good friends with my dad. He was jacked up to either Takahashi. Takahashi saw. So he come in and very broke in English. Tiger up, no sound. And he walked away. So Bill's there now left with my dad and go, what the fuck? You know, we're big monsters. Tiger, you're not selling. And we're just supposed to roll over. Like, what's that going to do for us? And my dad took it. You know, Bill, don't worry about it. But take care of it. I'll sell for you. You know, you know, what I'm going to take care of it. Don't worry. Don't worry about the office.

35:27I'll take care of it. I'll sell for you. This is the end. We'll do some sort of gimmick. So I never forgot that. So I would always enter the gimmick flag or some sort of cheap wind, sweet on the ropes. That was something with edge in England. Just to make them, make them happy. You know what I mean? I'm not losing anything from it. Give them an hour. It's all work. Yeah, absolutely. I love that. Yeah. Now, it's kind of interesting. That show is July 27, 2001. That is true because a lot of the guys like Godfather goes over, you know, one of the one of the guys crash goes over big show goes over. You actually go over test like we just said and then Chaz and Delo lose to Castillo and Miguel Perez. And then the main event, DDP and Russ McCalla lost to granopolo and Ricky Mendeira. So a lot, obviously more double the F guys are going over than Puerto Rico. But at least that's was able to get a few guys over. Yeah. And that's what he's saying goes listen, they're coming here to enhance our talent. Like we're the office is paying to bring them here, you know, and so what are

36:32you going to come and bury all our guys? And I was one of my WAs top guys at that time. And like you know, the main event and I think I was third last match or something like that. So yeah, they go, okay, you know, our mid card lower guys, you can get a win over them. But we can't bury the talent that we're pushing to be our main stars here. Yes, yes, definitely. And here's something I mentioned to Russo recently because we were talking about Dutch. And I said one thing is he's like, oh, he's busted my balls about this. And I said, one thing you got to realize, he is like the old school constant ballbuster. So even if you knew you were hurt, he'd be like, I don't know, the guy disappeared. Like he's just ballbusters. You know what I mean? He's very true. That kind of comedian where it's like, you know, the fact like Russo goes, I never booked that electrified cage. That's a Puerto Rico thing. And then Dutch would be like, yeah, you booked it. That was you, Russo. And then the crowd thinks it's Russo during the that actual time period, fire, Russo, all that stuff. So like that, if you're a Russo, but you know, Dutch is cracking up. You know what I mean? Like, oh, yeah, that was Russo.

37:32Yep, not me. Yeah. I appreciate it. Yeah. You know, and that's it couldn't rightfully be so, right? And it's like you said, but I have nothing. I love for us to get connected with Dutch again. You know, I heard he's not in the best of hell. I sent my best wishes to him, but I have nothing but respect. He's a little school, man. He's from my dad's time and all that. I respect all those, all those veterans. That's the way I was brought up. Now he said too that he didn't want you like when they originally sent you down because WBF sent a guy down. He's like, oh, I don't want this guy from WBF, but to his credit, he maybe didn't want you, but he used you like he's like, okay. Now I have him. I got to use him. So then he does a gimmick with you. You know what I mean? It's not just like he's taking you like, I'm not going to use him. He takes him. Maybe he didn't want you, but he ends up using you pretty good there. No God bless him. I love him. But once again, that was not Dutch's decision. That was not a Jim Ross decision, right? That was a pure Vince McMahon. For the first time I went over, I think it was a butch, Bushwacker Luke.

38:36He was the local guy there. And I wasn't injured the first time I went over there. And I think I shared this with you. I was working a few house shows. Jack Lanz and Tony Gourier, a big shout out to Tony Gourier. I got to know them. They got to know me. And I told you, right? Like everyone was telling me, listen Tiger, you got to come on the road. So people can know you because right now they're only hearing, you know, the shit from the office that they're staying. Like there's guys, balls, Mahoney of that. I never even met until Puerto Rico. Everyone that I worked with, they go, holy fuck Tiger. It was a pleasure working with you. I go, okay, why is that a surprise? We just heard shit about you. And ECW, we heard shit about you. Hear me and shit about you. And we're like, fuck, you're nothing like that at all. You're so easy to work with. Great attitude. And I got that from Dustin Reynolds as well. He was great to work with.

39:37I'm having, you know, like, so that's all office, right? Because I never work with any of the talent. And if there was, they would speak properly about that. But it's like you said, you know what, pure pressure, right? And they go, how am I supposed to come out and say, you know, speak, you know, high praise about Tiger. If you'd say, if I got a bunch of people talking shit. And the last thing I want to do is go come across, you know, some of the executives that might have a heart on for Tiger, jeet saying, so they just go along with it for the sake of going along with it to make life easy, right? But there are some individuals that fucking don't get two shits and have so much confidence and big shout out to Dan to be severing. I remember we were all traveling. And I think it was Boston mass. And there was a gold gym or something. So after the airport, I think we all went to a gold gym, all of us Steve lost in everyone's training. And you know, back then they have a little protein bar or something like that. Everyone. And Dan Severin, ex-Nural guy there.

40:40And I remember Dan Severin. He wasn't, you know, trying to point me out and make my life difficult. I don't know how the conversation came about. Okay. But Dan Severin said something with an audience. He goes, if you want to see a modern day king in the wrestling industry, it's Tiger Jeet Singh in Japan. God is my witness. Dan the B7 said it. And I was like, I have so much respect. Like, you know what I mean? Like he didn't get two shits. Like he was so confident and self made and, um, and nobody said anything. He goes, that man, when he rolls in Japan, like I've been with him there. You know, so there's a, you know, so the bashing and all that. How do you bash someone that you don't even know? So it's an influence. You're influenced, right? And you see it in society all the time, right? So I don't take anything personal by it. Like I said, during my time, no one was my face trying to, you

41:43know, beat the shit out of me or talk shit about me. There was a handful, like just, you know, an individual, you know, and the executive office there trying to make, like, difficult for me. And, and then there was, you know, I don't know anyone personally, but maybe one or two that were really insecure and pissed off with their own life. So to make themselves a little bit feel happier, they take a dig or a jab at somebody else. God bless them. And that's what they thought they can get. You know, I like to see where they are right now. I don't will it. It will, it will. Anybody, but, um, you're making your own bed. I have nothing to do with it. Now let's see if you could see this tiger. You're talking about a guy. Fascist guys. This is you. That's Dutch probably saying slow down tiger. I'm fire.

42:44Man, you look like Steve Austin there in the corner kicking. Look at this. Look how fast he were. Amazing guy. That crazy. How fast you were. And you look even bigger too because obviously those guys were a little bit shorter. Everybody's WF65 and you know, monsters, but you being 65 here, like with Savio and these guys are the chickie star and Victor, the bodyguard crazy. Oh, Miguel Savio. Beautiful. So this is a chickie star, Victor, the bodyguard and you versus Savio, Shane and Miguel Perez Jr. And Dutch is out there with his, uh, his turbine on. Yeah. You actually know you kind of remind me of working a bit. You kind of remind me of the rock, like the way you're running around here working. It was on fire, brother. It was on fire. God only God.

43:45I tell you God showed me in a how low the American goal that no matter, you know, the powers of being no matter how much they try to keep you back. You were there. I don't give a shit. What anyone says, ratings don't lie. Thank you again, John for digging that shit out. And I remember Jimmy, uh, he was, you know, I think he passed away. He was undertaker's, uh, uh, trainer and undertaker. God, again, so he was, remember Jimmy with the reverse hat. Oh, yeah, yeah. Jacked out monster and he would come to me. Goes tiger. We got the greatest Mike guys in the business here. And he ran it off a bunch and he sent me as well. So God bless him for that. And then I was always, you know, if there was any question, I was able to prove it, you know, through you, uh, thank you again. This video stuff that, fuck, this kid can work. Look at his speed. So you got to go back and go, why then, you know, the whole master plan is by God, not by us.

44:46Then why wasn't that showcase man, God tiger, maybe this would happen. This would happen. But I say, no, everything happens for a reason. And I think what I've been able to do with my life, you know, what I mean, like, like, total fulfillment and happiness, I believe, you know, sports and I think, you know, this, the, the statistics speak for themselves. It's a very, you know, a very, uh, short period of your life. You're in your out. It took coming to crosswords. And I think there was divine intervention that forced that decision for me that, you know, there's, there's a bigger play for you, right? There's a lot more that you can do for society and humanitarian philanthropy work through our foundation. And it's giving me unbelievable fulfillment, unbelievable partners. Like I just have a fuller life, if I can, if I can share that with the greatest humility. It's just a more well-rounded family friend.

45:46Like you, you see, I'm meeting these people that it's not dropping names. It's not because they got big money or bigot. They're real good people and they want to do great things in society. But they're also kind of, you know, gun shy because there's so much bullshit in the world. So they're also looking for great alliances. And we've been able to God willing, fit that mold, that, that role with a lot of unbelievable people in the world. And so it's not about the belts. It's like how much money is enough? How much fame is enough, right? There's never enough. It's human nature. But we're, we're very blessed. You know, like I said, you know, this is only a chapter of our life. Dad, God bless his soul. There was one piece of advice that he got from his dad who was a major in the Indian Army when he immigrated in Canada. And he goes land, land. Does not grow land shrinks. So he always told my dad always invest in land.

46:51And this is going back to the sendenees, right? And so he always heed the device. And when he would travel, it wasn't like he was cheap or anything, but he goes, how much money can I bring back home for my family? Right? So yeah, then a lot of people loved him and started sponsoring him. So he would always bring more money back than his guarantee. You know, God bless him for that. And we are now reveling in the life that we have today because of this sacrifices of both my mom and dad. And now we're trying to put that forward and teach our children as well. It's not about how much you can accumulate. It's about how much you can give and share. And that's where I am. So now we have an opportunity to connect and you're showing these videos. And it brings, uh, yeah, it brings a smile to my face. And you know, for anyone that says, oh, he'd only this and that.

47:52Look at that shit. So I can't believe it. That was me. Yeah. So what's the difference though? I mean, I could be reps, right? But what is the difference? You look like completely different guys. A confidence, what's the difference between WF Tiger, who's a big green and, and kind of maybe not as confident in the ring versus IWA Puerto Rico Tiger? In a watching a couple of these videos, you look completely different. Look fast. You look like the rock. A little bit of Steve Austin there. What's the difference? If you get an opportunity as well to see a video without my shirt on, you will be blown away. It was like the physique was phenomenal at a different level. Um, you're right. Confidence number one is confident. And where does confidence come from? Uh, confidence in your ability and all of this, but that also comes from, uh, sacrifice, putting the time in the gym, putting the time. So I was always putting time in the gym. I was always in great, great shape, but it was also, you know, getting the opportunity to house shows, getting the opportunity to perfect your craft, right? Getting opportunity to trial and error and not just bringing it to TV and fucking

48:54having no, you know, background for it. Um, we were working anywhere from four to six times a week in Puerto Rico. Wow. You know, it was so hot. You shower, you get out of your apartment, you're sweating, right? I was running the beach every day. Like I said, big shout out to Savio, uh, Victor and, um, and Miguel, they sent me up, um, on the beach in a, in a gated community. Um, and I think it was Miguel's aunt that had a couple condos and that. So they sent me up there and I was running the beach every day, but I was like motivated because the matches were fucking on fire. And you see the crowds and they're, they had full, they had full, uh, it was a good time over there. Um, so if you can bring it on the mic and then bring it in the ring, it was on fire. And I was sitting, I remember it was Savio. Like I said, any of my gimmicks and this night, it was Jack with Savio. And, uh, I told him, listen, Savio. I said, I'm being paid handsomely by WWE to be here.

49:57Why the fuck don't you use me? You're getting free, you, me as a free fucking talent that you're not going to be able to afford. And it clicked for him. So I got to give him credit. It clicked. Otherwise, I'd be fucking jogging for months there. So it clicked for him and he started talking to his guys. He goes, that tiger's right. And Savio had a lot of respect for that. He's, he worked with that a lot in Japan. And he knew my character. I'm not the one, you know, to blow smoke or two face and, and to run away. Um, so they started trusting me, which built me confidence as well. And we just killed it. There's lots of beautiful matches. Um, glad that you have it. But definitely, uh, it's all of those things that contributed to, to that package that you saw in the ring. I loved it. So, and most important, most important. Yes. I don't know if it was just me or them. What an unbelievable environment there with their talent, all the young guys.

50:58They all were hungry lions. They all wanted to work. Nobody was trying to backstab each other. That's the way my mentality was, right? Like, why do you need to fuck each other up? Just go and proof is in the pudding. Just go put your best foot forward. Um, so it was a really healthy environment as well. It was great. So I think everybody should go out there and check out some IWP Puerto Rico on YouTube for sure. So I think that's a great stopping point for this week. Let's wrap up this, baby. Boy, tell us all about TJSF Tiger G, the saying of foundation. Thank you, John. Yeah. Tiger G, Singh foundation. We had a phenomenal summer. Um, I'm now having meetings with our partners. We're gearing up for the big mega miracle on May, which is really blown up. So it's, uh, we're having a couple of mega live events during the month, late November. Um, and, you know, 30,000 people show up at the downtown Brampton with Mayor Patrick Brown and his council. 25,000 people show up at the dead of winter and downtown Milton with our amazing partners here.

52:00Mayor Kranz in the council of an RBI. So the partnerships are phenomenal. And then we do mega toy drives with Peele Regional Police and Chief Nish and Chief Tanner and what regional police. An unbelievable partner. So we're gearing up. They're working it right now because it's about a two month. So out of every year, I dedicate my time during November and December for this campaign, which has become a movement. It's a transformational experience. 100% of the proceeds go back into communities, support close to 200 different charities, women shelters, food banks, children's hospitals. And last year's event raised a record 2.3 million. 10s of millions have been raised zero administrative fees. So that's just, you know, just another reason why unsolicited. A lot of major multinational corporations are attracted and wanted to join with us. I'll share one little thing. I was at Amazon, one of their long large distribution centers.

53:04And senior VP came and talked to me. And it was a big, we had a big rally, big media launch. They donate something like $600,000 worth of electronics and laptops and all that for Miracle and me. And he said, Tiger, I just want to let you know the reason why we're partnering here is because your foundation has a conscious. It has a has a heartbeat and it's real. Wow. And so yeah. So that's what we're, we're doing. Awesome stuff. Everybody check out Tiger G. And seeing a foundation.com. Thank you. Everybody out there for listening. Thank you to Tiger. We'll see you right back here next week for the next episode. Thank you. Tiger. Have a good one, folks. This has been a John Paz power trip production in conjunction with the two man power trip of the wrestling. You could follow us on Instagram and Twitter at two man power trip.

54:05You can check us out on Facebook. You could subscribe on YouTube. You can go to patreon.com slash TMPT empire to become a patron and also check out the website TMPT empire dot com. And by a shirt at pro wrestling tease dot com to man power trip where the power lies. Brother. We have one of the best couples in this race. As soon as we go to our China. So this is what it is. And the pair has been set up as the couple with the leader of the race. David Ovega is going to pass here. I'm going to be weird because Miguel Pérez has this in this. He's the one who's going to help us with the power. Because Miguel Pérez has the power of the commander.

55:07If you have something there is friction between the purple. We are going to device theicamente. The part of herOLFan the very or the race in the coliseum this is. I got the excuse but in the most of the most. I got the more I got the most I got the most. This is in the US and I got it. People even buy me in front of a He knows him so end of the fight. He did certainly have to see that other aspect of the battle with the Targets andTears. And you can feel it as to what ample that goaled up a pair with Paylee in a great canal. sehen Los Luzod killer hits it on PN into why don't you see the seems getting fighting pulling the pile of bots. They evenressed down the furthest points of the number one

56:08And in a question, Miguel Ferre has been here. They had the last week that the relationship between the Koreans and all was like a relationship of the hand. I fight today and tomorrow, and tomorrow is also, and in the next day, it's obvious. What's going on? I want you to know that Miguel Ferre is here, and I told you that they thought that the road was going to be used to reach the mission. And another thing that they also said is that they were going to help Polo. If Polo and I were going to do their thing, I wanted to do the only thing that I was going to respect. If something like, Sabio Vega and Shane, look here, Miguel Ferre wanted to go to Releuys and Shane didn't give it to him. Well, I told you something. Shane is a cooler because he has a title in the world in Paris, and look at this again, again Releuys. But look, he's not the same. They ask questions, he's not going to speak with the Koreans. The man who enters and doesn't give it to Releuys. Well, these are the comrades, I have them, they are the comrades. And we are with Miguel Ferre. And then because he wants to help him, he wants to talk to the guys, the guy who is a real man.

57:09But I also told you something very weird, that Miguel is being the most creative, and that everything is important in four words, that he says, he has helped them. That's not so weird. Well, there is the heart, as they are talking a little bit, very soon, Releuys, go back to the side, and then the comrades, that they are going to shoot me. Puerto Rico continues, in fact, total. We are going to see here, in total, a special montage that we are going to take, through history, the trajectory that the rich and benderes have taken to the side of the world. The change they saw, why they saw that change, and what it came to this night, at the culmination of their career in the free light, goals and stairs, through the World Cup, of the Edo Blua, everything will be in place, not only for them, also for Miguel and Castillo, against Picas and Shas. Well, what the winners are going to do, the first players of the World Cup, against Miguel in Paris, behind the front, there is the Dicín, we know what is happening, there was a tie, there was the deciduous one, from the arrival of the team,

58:09the excitement of the calculation that they were getting up, they have been injured, right? That's right, the programmer is preparing for the Tigers, Miguel Pérez and the Falo, the Pele and the Giuseppe, prepare the game, and then, go, go, go, go, and the Falo and the Cabeza, the man from the Bita, the footballer has had a tie, he had time, this can be, thank you, this is the Delader Motivo, for which Miguel has already made the wall, to be able to break the ball in his hand, that's what he's going to do now, now, he's going to play the Bull 12, from the third, one, two, and three, he's going to win the victory, and a victory in the Edo Blua, he's going to defeat, he's going to defeat, he's going to defeat, he's going to defeat the Boryquas, thank you, I'm sorry, I made a mistake, and the penalty isn't the right one, but it was weird that the Cabeza was going to help, it was all that happened a week ago, Miguel Mohammed, taking the flag of the Alicin State, and another triumph to be able to break the ball, that's why he's going to win, he's going to be able to break the ball, but it's already the Alicin State, that's why he's going to be able to break the ball, and he's going to help this, because he never got a goal. There we have the Boryquas,

59:10if you think, go, go, go, go, go, come and celebrate with us, there's the soccer Boryquas, the most firm that never gets the Javana ball, the intelligence of the Boryquas, the Boryquas, the Boryquas, and now with the Siger, and another point is that this victory will not win tonight, and I say that the Alicin State will be the next one to be able to break the ball, and the Alicin State won't like it, and we all know that the Alicin State will be able to break the ball, he has problems with authority, and before seeing you, I'm sure that they will take you, before seeing you, before seeing the Alicin State, when walking on the streets, the goal is impossible, remind the valedゴis that the Baird will end this night, but there's nothing more to ask, whether you'll你在 the if they've had such a good heart,

1:00:10I'm not. Yeah. But I see. So, we're the little man and here's nothing. Look at that. It's getting up now. Little by little. The man is looking at me. Miguel Pérez. It seems like he's playing with a scurvy. Shade the glamor boy. Like he doesn't like that. He's the middle. Here. Oh, I know him. I know him. He's being sarcastic. I know him. I know him. Well, if you say you know him, he's there. But look at that. He's looking very good. Imagine. Huh. This is bad, bad, bad, bad. The man in the middle is being sarcastic. But the glamor boy, he doesn't like that. He's being sarcastic. He's not as good as him. Look. It's been sarcastic. It's been sarcastic. He's being sarcastic. He's the leader of the Boricuan. The other member of the Boricuan. Hey, wait. This is strange. I've had that kind of experience. It was a proposite. The accident was very easy. Help him after everything that happened. And the guy is the one who has killed him. He's been killed. He's been killed. You know that. I know that. I hope you're in this world. Here. It's been a week. You've already seen that.

1:01:10He helped his mother. He helped his mother to take the title with Dino Brown and Celo. He's been in the middle. He's been in the middle. We all know the story of what's happening in the middle. You're being sarcastic. The man in the middle is being sarcastic. This night is a terrible night. Go. Go. Go. I'm telling you. He's been sarcastic. Look. Look. He's got a cat. Look. He's showing now. And he's coming. He's federal school. The city that is. He's awesome. It doesn't recognize me. Not another gossip. Rather. The 11 meters pilot. Love. Hey. He didn't pick up if he islooking in K przyeddans posted out. To beakers. But looking at it. Lovely. We are going to catch. Pull out the move back and ask whether they are older than us. under the

1:02:20Right here are my f uno Stayed I guess it's not worth it. Look at that. I don't know. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. We all know how Xein is. The relationship with Savio Ves. He's been supporting me lately. They started this. I don't know what's going to happen tonight in Carolina. All these new things. The old table there is hot. It's going to get me sick. I know they're going to risk their lives. They're going to risk their lives. This night, only because of the price. The World Cup, the World Cup, the biggest prize. The only thing that could happen is the World Cup. The World Cup. Well, León Apollos, from the final point of view, has not lost any. He was fighting. He wanted the title. He did it. But also Ricky Banderas is wonderful. For now, when they say it's a mess. Ricky Banderas wants to take advantage of tonight. The opportunity is because it's the last thing he gives. If tonight is not going to win the title, it will be the opportunity of Tiger Alicim.

1:03:21The story continues. We're in Brea, with the Montagas of Ricky Banderas. We're in Brea.