Tier Listing 2026 NBA Offseason Upgrades | Ep. 239

0:00NBA training camps start about three weeks Data fell season starts about two days We're here on a Monday You know what all this means? What does it mean? The office season is just about finished We are almost here into the 2026 2027 season and like I said we are back for our first Monday episode after Ops season hiatus. How are you feeling having to work on labor day because you have a weird job? Feel good came here no traffic. It was a smooth 20 minutes I couldn't wait to sit down to eat more crayons, but for breakfast What color did you have this morning? PURPLE Why would you assume purple that your favorite color? Are you sure? You love purple I've grown now More of a ruined type guy now Is that a point of maturation for you off that purple shit? Yeah for now for now Okay, so maybe something on back there. We'll get into that later. He's barely off of it Still in the family you can still relapse

1:04Yeah, like we said we're here back from Monday episode we took seven weeks off We're not quite into the point of the season where we're gonna do previews for this coming season That'll start about two weeks or so. So we got some time to kill So as you see by today's title, we're looking back We're gonna think about how our thoughts about the offseason have evolved over the course of summer We're gonna put every important I should say not every single one because a lot of things happen this off season But every important NBA roster upgrade into a tier list on that tier list We have a variety of tiers based on how much better we think this move to upgrade a certain position makes a certain team so it'll be kind of like How this roster upgrade brings them closer to a championship or to whatever their goal is Hmm sounds okay trade lousy. What are you prepared to do? See there's no trade lousy impact on this list But before that as you guys know if you are a viewer that's been watching the show for longer than seven weeks We're gonna do the news of the week as we do every Monday before we get into the main topic Not a whole lot of news right now, but we got something to work with We'll get you everything you need to know about the offseason in the depths of it

2:07Let's pop man. Let's move Check out house call like I said and NFL season starts in two days Watch our NFL show where we're kicking off coverage every single week every Tuesday Check out our merch every some collection of every drop is still available as it's been all summer on our merch link in the description Yeah, man cute nunchar music We're throwing it back Bragging I Cray of it's crazy Crout eaters rejoice Be souls what is our first news story of the week to start this Monday episode first news story A ment Thompson got paid man Big bag dropping across the money spread money spend money spread Yeah, five year to await million dollar extension with the rocket. What is that per year? I don't know all I know is this W2 With benefits and all wow

3:09A little bit of a 40 million dollar a year for ment Thompson Naturally when this happened on Twitter wasn't enough to talk about that week So we got lots of extreme reactions on both sides for what I think is a very Normal middle of the fact nice value deal right? Yeah, this is somebody that's clearly gonna be a part of their franchise moving forward and This offseason if he was gonna get moved and they weren't gonna give him that money This would have been off season to get off of the Men Thompson experience. Yeah, that was never in the course. Yeah, they were different gonna move off of my Thompson If if you were gonna go all in and be like You know what let's pair KD with Janis and the bugs are like we have to get something in in return Yeah, we hate shingoon. So maybe maybe that that would have been the only path for a man not to be rocket But he very clearly is somebody that should be on the steam for the next five years. I'm happy he got paid Yeah, I mean clearly well deserved it's interesting because they've literally committed money to every single young player They dropped it over the last four years or so and all of them are good Regardless of like the holes in some guys games like a man or

4:10Chen Gung but now what comes with this new contract is of course and new expectations and I want to see a little bit of a jump shot in 41 million dollars a year of course guys get paid that's I'm money without a jump shot Ben Simmons pretty go bare yada yada yada But did they never get 40? Yeah a lot of them enough 40 in a 40 in 20. Yeah, like His 35 or 33 or whatever is is basically 40 today So what comes comes with this new cartridge a little bit higher expectations I want to see like can crack 19 20 points a game this year. Yeah, Ben Simmons was 25% max the same same scale. Yeah Yeah, it would be nice I don't know if I'm expecting anymore I think a men is a men which is great and I think he'll continue to be a better version of this type of player that I don't know if I ever have that top 10 player in the world stealing that people hoping dream to have based on the insane Ethelaticism and potentially he won't show it actually actually potential he won't show me so sound like I'm out on him But I'm not but I've just like Adjusting like you know when he got drafted. We thought it was a point guard. We thought he could do on ball passing stuff like I just think the goal is can you be super soldier Andre Godella and I still feel like he's on that path

5:1440 million dollars a year fantastic value The normal for a guy that deserves exactly that amount. Yeah, you think it could be a halstern next year I don't know the West's option the West's hot if he can get to If he can get to like 22 points maybe like if he comes down the first half of the year and he's really firing A lot isn't it it does But I mean that's that's the leap that he's gonna have to make to to get there because Well, yeah, I mean if you go down down the list especially if he's gonna be listed as a guard or as a forward like either way There's just so much depth out there that I don't think he's on that track right now Yeah, if he's also that means like they won like 60 great six game just on my then Katie is also when I'll start to so And probably showing going because he's already has like three all starts the rocket. It's just tough It's tough to imagine that but I think he can take a step forward and be recognized that level of player that we're all satisfied with his production without it actually netting out in all start selection Okay, so I'm yeah shout-out to him you know every time a contract like this is signed by young player

6:17Have people rush a twitter say overpay terrible deal. This is how a it's how a window closes Hey, man, they went out in the first round last year. Yeah, it's regular. It's what you expect. It's a good player again paid This great age well. It's currently no no window right now. Yeah, I was gonna say my age well of anything because I I always thought like a man was a max player Yeah, I mean, this is a max well like it makes sense. He got exactly what you should get yeah Next thing a guy who has not gotten what he feels like he should get jayland urn is still way to get paid We have no update on September 7th about the were shook to free agency of jayland urn. I should do an update I mean, I say that the update is no update The update is I'm pissed Jlandern reportedly the team is offering him around $35 million a year and he wants 40 And he is not feeling respected by the negotiations in that reported $5 million difference Maybe that difference was larger and they got it done to five but we have reports that not only is a dragon on A lot of people were saying that they don't know if he's going to be the long term because a relationship is that rocky Now that sounds to me like regular restrict your free agency's talk that like yeah right now

7:19I'm sure it is rocky does that actually mean it'll be gone on a year I don't know but how do you feel about the idea of him wanting $40 million a year and feeling disrespected by 35 um So I don't blame him for wanting it, but I do think that He's at and a lot of players have felt the effects of this where like trea young is now Awashing to wizard you've seen a lot of you seen other players of that that oak Not necessarily get the deal completely upfront jayland browns on the six years now because people are coming to terms with the money that they have to pay people I think Like a year ago he would have been right to ask for 40 million and he probably could have gotten it either as soon as he asked for or earlier in the summer Now it's just not that time and that's just not the way that the league works anymore and it sucks Listen, it sucks that it had to happen to you right whenever it's your time to to get a bag But that's just not where we're at anymore. Yeah, I'm not gonna sit up here and be like oh he does deserve that 40 million dollars Did you see his elimination game performance? Yeah, I like I get it

8:21And I'm kind of also jumping on him because of his performances and all that Because I do think he's gonna be a good player in the league for a good amount of time but If anything I look at the pissens and I commend them even more because You know their front office is mad stingy bro. They don't want to give him no picks Yeah, like they made some offseason moves They gave up a little bit of money to junk for jong cons and all that But they're very like decisive and they like to keep their pivot and this is giving him 40 million dollars or whatever he's asking for Would not handy cap to organization or whatever, but it definitely makes a lot of decisions tougher to do No, yeah every million counts when you got a pair of star Thompson prediction as well in kids already paid Obviously if you continue to have home players you hope they're good and deserve to get paid when you already have three of them That are that expensive Every single margin counts and that five million dollars is meaningful when you get to that level in today's league like you mentioned in the apron era I don't know I feel like 35 is completely reasonable. That's mad normal like so obviously get as much as you can You've been all start appearance getting 40 will be fine. I don't think 35 is crazy like at all in yeah and like

9:25So I think now it is kind of Not wild, but it is a lofty ask to be like hey, I want this especially Given the the playoffer and that he had in his defense What else are you gonna do because if they if he's if he's that's it That was the somewhere else like the The amount of centers in the in the league that I think that you can legitimately have as a member of your core moving forward I don't know if it's that that high and and so Like yeah, we can commend the pistons for being stingy and be like oh like you're being really smart And you're not just you know jumping into giving this guy 40 million dollars If he's not there, it's gonna hurt because the rest of your team As currently you know constructed you don't have a lot of good good jump shooters You don't have a lot of creators like you're putting a lot of your hopes for this next season to build on the 61 season on the edition of John Collins and on just over our leaps from everybody else I do think that there is a part of it where

10:27If you let during go okay, who's part of this core? Yeah, but what does that mean? They're not letting them go He's not understated for agent, you know, so like yeah either he stays on the qualifying offer And he passes up on 35 million dollars a year for five years doubt. I'm saying if you if If you are severing the relationships to a point where he feels comfortable and he's like you know what Obviously he's not gonna feel comfortable. He would rather want his money But to the point where he says I'm gonna get out of here I'm gonna sign the offer and then I'm gonna test the waters elsewhere If you push him to those lengths, I think that that's a mistake for sure I just have a heart like we say with every restrictive reagent I find it very hard to believe you would take the qualifying offer and pass up on 35 mz year And to get 16 for one year and then hope next year the market is more robust It's but and that's why we're here because they know that's not gonna happen right They know the realities of restrictive reagency and how much power they build over the players It's very fucked up system. It's kind of ridiculous that they have so much power But it is what it is Kind of just feel like it's the same thing we say every year when there's a restrictive reagent

11:29Sucks to be in this exact scenario to be a all-star level guy where you can get squeezed to get 35 and so to 40 Because you really can't do shit about it unless you really really forced way out for solute a sign and trade and the only one We've heard linked to is the kings People always say the kings want them some kind of demand to subonus sign and trade Why would the pistons entertain that unless jalen during goes like full you must trade me mode Yeah, what if he gets to that point? No one does that. He doesn't have the power to do that Because he's a worshiper for agent. Would you have to If you're gonna facilitate that you have to like does he have the most power in this situation? No, do you have any power? Yes, you have some power and a lot of times If you are like we've seen and it's a it's a different situation because this player is much better than than he is But like Jimmy Butler anytime Jimmy Butler's like hey, I'm done Jimmy Butler's gonna act the craziest that he can He's gonna make sure that if I'm uncomfortable you're uncomfortable same thing with with James Harden If I'm uncomfortable if I'm not if I'm done playing for your team It's over I think that that is the only way the jalen during can actually

12:31Show any type of power leverage in the situation and that's where he's those are the links that he's gonna have to go to To to show any type of power in this in this negotiation So if they are pushing him to that point then I think it is a mistake if we're doing it over because I think on both sides You can be like every like it's five million dollars like listen to you know, let's get over it And so that's a that's a point where you Detroit If he's gone the rest of your young core is like It's it's cading them and That's it and I think that you're gonna have to rebuild and it might be tougher than they expect The Walker Kester contract really fucked them dude. That's how I was thinking about I'm like But what Kester his contract is not even that OD either. It's like what 3032 But he got that coming off an injury. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, he got 32 million So the pistons you're looking him and be like He gets 32 you get a little more because you're proven you didn't get hurt last year and you made the leap that They're assuming Walker Kester would have made the same leap so they're going on theory and giving him the most money to represent that Yours is tangible you did it you say healthy. So here's a few million more

13:32But that's the line 32 and a half for Walker Kester you get 35 you one of them He's your peer in your same draft class same worship the free agency class here's more He wants way more. Yeah, cuz he's looking at guys like I don't know what's at home grimoire whatever Evan Moe please like yo these guys got like 40 Evan will be got something crazier than that but 40 million dollars a year He thinks it's the same caliber and I don't I don't completely fault him for that But if I'm the business just whatever get this shit over with because there's no better options right now Yeah sucks to be restricted free agent that is the moral of the story is that the pistons are probably gonna win because they have every reason to Yeah, the streets are saying Future clipper question mark Seven winters it would be very obvious fit for the clipper to the motivation overpay him in the 27 free agency class If the pistons can't get a long term deal done Sure, and that's probably what he's hoping that's probably what the agents like you want to take the qualifying offer the clippers are going to have money doubt we get there if I'm the clippers though just entertaining this situation. Oh, yeah Give it given their situation if I got DG and and then for the next four or five years you can do worse

14:33Yeah, who waggler as well. Yeah, yeah, a lot worse But again, that would require him taking the qualifying offer right now and getting to next year's free agency which again doubt that's just so dumb to do Yeah, it's crazy What if you guys what if you what if you want to win your wonder that you pass up on 35ms. Yeah, they give you 20 You don't have a pick to 2034 I'm gonna do it. Oh for sure. Yeah, this isn't about the clippers. Yeah, they'd wait till next year It's about the pistons allowing him to get to that point. Yeah, it'll be dumb for him to do go ahead and take this when you're qualifying offer But for the clippers. Oh my god. This is exactly what I don't I don't think it's a derns and I don't think it's no For I don't I don't for him. I think I think it's a I think it's a it's a risk But I don't think it's dumb and and I think that if you truly feel like you are worth that And if you feel like you have elevated to this level of of player and you can become an unrestricted for agent after you You know play off this qualifying offer then Okay, go go ahead and do it. Yeah, but yeah, of course. It's not It's dumb and the reason no one does it is just because the risk is so great That like anything can happen in one year one unfortunate injury and your market's completely different and you pass up on

15:37It's a hundred eight million dollar contract and now let's go on like all over five million dollars I'm broke like you're you're player and you're popular and all that go make that five of them's off the court Good show get your agents to fucking work use some endorsements like you just never know what's gonna happen when one hundred eighty million dollars Is staring in the face. Yeah, it's a very very hard thing to say no and nobody's like ever done that no notable for agent It's ever taken the qualifying offer for a reason It sounds like people scared man. It's like honestly you should be you should be scared of that. That's it would be dumb to not be scared I just think I Think it's it's okay to take or to take a risk yeah And to do it in terms of like if it doesn't work out then then obviously like you're gonna look back and be like oh dang Like I should I should did this but no you want to look back but if you lose generation of well if he if he comes out and If he stays healthy and signs the qualifying offer and it works out then Then we're gonna look back and be like wow the janitor. He's so he's so brave. He bet he bet on himself What a what a great story. I think that there is something there and that it's not

16:38Completely idiotic to say no. Okay, go ahead and and do this and then you have complete You have you have complete power over where over where you want to play as opposed to being stuck in the situation Me locked into a deal that is way under your your perceived value and market value for the next four years For sure I understand that but then that's how you become like a Dennis show I know I asked out I don't like 90 million or even now the new Dennis shorter. Don't think coming good You got you gonna be able to make like 30 mz. You're not you're scraping for like 16 million cut that gambler mindset You know, I was in what if I do land on red them what? Then I'm up But the risk also what he's also much better than than they are And so like and so like the the market is is different Yes, I really the point though the point is just that like any risk is a risk and it's un Unwise when that much is on the table and like it's really so so for y'all it's like if there's any risk whatsoever Then I'm not gonna do it. All right. We're getting this magic now. It's not important at all

17:39That no, I mean, that's that's what that's what it sounds like Uh It's just over five million dollars. Yeah, I don't care if there are often 20 than I would understand if it was ridiculous, but if it's The amount is if it's four years or five would it be five years the twenty five million dollar difference and you're taking 16 instead of 180 Like there's a certain amount of risk and that's just over the line It also could be more because that especially from from that report. It's saying in excess of 40 He could be asking for more than than than 40 more than these are more on you know and so Nothing matters Okay, and we're done talking rational here. You want 50 which I don't even can they even give them a 30% max? I don't even know I guess you can all start. Yeah, they can yeah, okay, then sick dude Then nothing matters here They can't even do that legally. He's asking for the collage up Hey, man And that's why I found the clippers. I'm tampering again Okay Okay, next thing another news about signings

18:42Flip in directions. Yes, Ben Simmons is back in the NBA the Sacramento Kings have signed him to a one year 3.5 million dollar deal Leach report says all caps Ben is back fire emoji They also feel fire emoji about Ben Simmons being back. Yeah, my when you see it as Jersey like what do you feel? What do I feel want to see a Ben Simmons Sacramento King journey? Yeah, okay Hi, I'll feel nothing Other than thumbs up nice belly Damn thing I'm not so I'm okay Ben is back of the league I feel I hope it works out. I'm like good for him I'm glad he's back getting to the chance. I'm like I'm rooting for him. I'll say that yeah for sure One thing I will say is yeah, Ben Simmons and Miley for cool. Oh three four million dollars 77 are all on 2k He moves mountains off the bench bro 77. Yeah, it's pretty high Well, I don't know what he is this in this year's 2k, but last year's that's he was like he was a demon bro come around This year maybe he's like a 75 haven't seen been a man. I'll say the 72

19:4672 to start yeah, well the problem is also health when he's on the court. No attribute wise. Maybe 75 this way 72 is just like you look anybody he gets a 70 shitty pleasure 72 Like he has two stuff. He's still like Shitty players are Like 72's like you're By thread bro His only way back into the league was signing with the games Like okay, we're going But it was pretty low risk obviously if he chose the league Like he's freaking Dave's Like he's walking away from all this money My truth all it needs to be official He won't agree Maybe he was on to something Yeah, who knows what he has left in the tank. Hopefully he's healthy and ready to succeed

20:49If he gives him a little bit some rotation minutes, okay If he plays this year he qualifies for the league pension. Oh hell you getting the game. Yeah Okay, this is 10 years. Yeah, and he's gonna get like 200 k a year post retirement and benefits forever benefits forever I understand it now. I understand it now I gotta play for second middle for one year so be it sure Those are my big guys I dealt with injuries all like that. He's not medical bills forever You gotta get those paid for by the league. I'd come back to for the kings. Sure. Okay. It's a strategic sacrifice I understand it out all makes sense Is there like a minimum amount of games needs to play for this to qualify as a 10th year? I can't just play one and he's done. I think it might be I've ever heard this story where uh Who was it was a 20-snow? Yeah, 20-snow was like one season away And people were like signing for one game so we can get it. Oh, no, and I wanted it Everyone was mad I think it might be like you just got to play for one game in a season to count Let's go have been let's get to the bag. Good for him. Good for him. That's all he can say

21:52Uh, why follow up that obviously ball drop last week. Kauai Leonard guilty. I should say Steve bomber guilty of shit Follow up since then we have heard that the clippers are wanting to take this to arbitration Which means take it to a third party to rule on this situation and try to make it so the NBA has to change the Punishment they got Public or he in a follow-up report and said the clippers are not aware of the fact that they are not allowed to take into arbitration This cba says the only way a punishment can be taken to arbitration specifically is it done by the NBA That cannot happen because kauai settled with the NBA pa so that statement he put out where he said I'm sorry the people might camped is something bad. I take full responsibility It's because the NBA decided to settle with him first so Steve bomber couldn't go that route And now it seems that the only thing the clippers can do is sue them in the courts They are not able to do arbitration because of kauai take it to the US take it to the senate Take it to the president This is stupid. Yeah, he's gonna take their belt and cry about it. That's tough Not really tough. This is you get But low key honestly though

22:54If there was an administration that you could take this to him be liais please sweet please fix this one It's this one. Mm-hmm So how do I party them? Yeah, how do I party those billionaires? I got it figured out. That is true Low key this is what this might be the best time to sue the NBA It's it's probably not gonna amount to anything just because This is this is how it works anytime that that you ask like The federal government to step in and overturn something that happened in a privately owned you know like network and and that's you be it It's like nothing's gonna happen. Yeah, but I would Just for the optics of the clippers trying to go to a higher court and losing again I would appreciate that J Cole says clippers fans near love and support y'all seem with the fuck Adam silver just did them Oh, I think you're a boot after saying this Where do you say this concert? No, but like you know what city? I think he was in LA. He was probably in early. Yeah Hey, I'll fill a budget call saying clippers fans. He's like

23:55The fucking dome had a catastrophic hurricane run through that Yeah, he said this before playing love yours boom The only reason I bring this up to is a follow-up is The implication here it kind of is that Now, how do I phrase this? Kauai definitely the clippers out the dry a little bit 100% Kauai settle behind the scenes and was like fuck them Because the NBA Pate like I said if they settle with Kauai and made it so the Paces were not gonna do arbitration The clippers have no recourse to the most part Kauai said that's them not me. I'll take my plea deal and get out of the escape No, I'm in if I'm Steve Walmart. I'm getting trumped to import Fuck that you hear with me We were talking about Kauai didn't have a big punishment. We're like damn no suspension God we theorize maybe it's cuz he's on the raven they brought that box of donuts You want a sandwich? Yeah, I want a soda Here's a coke he got to happen You took a plea deal it was aspiration it was that tronics

24:58Then then then here are the companies that I use like I'll tell you about some more that Pablo hasn't The spawning deal they don't even know about that one So yeah, like y'all it makes sense now what Kauai got off free scot free He said to be honest keep it on and they said that they were gonna do this with somebody else so Keep doing the best to gay jaylon brunson The whole thing is funny too There's a few other that's not something to break down a few others that other players that took smaller deals with the clippers There's a lot there's a couple Nick but two him to exchange deal into 2021 with them There's a few small ones here and there that like maybe those things are in shape That's not Nick but two mana this man He's in France right now man We got a back-to-smotorship We will see if there's any follow up in the coming weeks at the clippers doing thing about it But the main thing that they said they're gonna do arbitration they cannot which is why funny that they And that's good

25:58And they get you should about it also that jay cold thing man I've tried it especially since the album dropped I've tried very hard to defend him That's pandering right there and I can't respect that I can't I can't respect it isn't care about the clippers at all He does not care no Gabe Vincent says bam out of bio has to rent out the entire theater in order to go see a movie He says that's cool to do but when you go to the movies do you really want to spend it $1,500? You don't have to do that shit My question is if you were an NBA player would you be renting out entire movie theaters and doing shit like this every time Every time no no no every time so if you're bam out of bio that level of player where people know you you just court He's three people really know you're also six ten you're six ten Would you go to movie theater and be Gawked at pictures taking to view would you be moving like this Or would you just be regular go to theater You think you started moving like this after the eighty-three or four I'm gonna say me after I'm gonna say before he was already six ten

26:58I'm gonna say only guys in the back otherwise you're dickhead people can't see over you Hmm, I mean if you got the recline and see you might be able to Didn't get away with that yeah, cuz they're leveled in a way where like tall people aren't Okay advanced AMC you're right you're right. Yeah, they are level. You definitely can't see Yeah, you're right so He's he's fine. I when he's when he has to do is like the The five o'clock movie that's done you either have to see a movie at nine thirty in the morning or you have to see that 10 p.m. At night You have to go see that issue there they have advanced schedules they have sleep schedule Is it got to eat certain times or NBA athletes would you do that or would you spend $1500 to go to see one battle off for another? I'm not doing that 50 time. I'm not I'm not doing that and I think I mean NBA players they stay out They stay often they got a lot of free time. That's what I'm saying they be out and so I think I think the nine thirty show yeah either early in the morning you wake up Let's say you wake up at five o'clock in the morning you get your work done you go see the movie come back You just like and work done you could have a you got two training days and a movie by two o'clock in the afternoon

28:03And still be able to go to sleep at a reasonable time if you really want to see a movie you could do that I'm not 15 hundred every single time. What if you do what if you like do all that And then the movie that you go see just ask you know pissed out he spends $1500 to the flash Yeah, yeah, it definitely depends on the movie spending 1500 to see the speckable me raise your Wilson come on If you have no kids that's crazy I'm monsters to show Set up 15 hundred just spend three at a time by psych to show up, bro You know he's six he's more odd He's six If you are six ten and you show up in a shy Steve they're shooting you down the They look at you like a bridge the answer you employees are really fire I take off the mask is this band He's already dead So that'll be the crazy Scooby-Doo villain reveal ever it's

29:05You employees The panel where you go is Yeah, Chris happens all the time he's not Caleb we pull the gut off from the popcorn machine They got the silent alarm I love you like it's a bank. Oh, yeah Oh, hey, I just want to know if you guys are right time movie theaters if you were badmout about Not often. I think if it was like one If it was if it was like a big movie, I would do it like for I probably would have did it for spider-man holding what it came and watch like it's not if I'm renting it out It's not just gonna be yeah, so you gotta maximize that shit. Yeah Yeah, I used to be about a lot of players and I would just say Yeah, that'd be hilarious A next thing Yeah, I gotta I gotta take this in a little I got experiences one-on-one with me and Pete all these air alone

30:08Me and PD go back Next thing I remember my Chris Paul Russell Westberger now best buds and retirements They both are tired at the same time. They've been posted up together Chris Paul posted this picture of a photo of them together going out on top the caption says lost to celebrate And in this photo dump there's also a video them playing tennis together I never seen this before they're getting a retirement I don't wait till my go back That this picture not crazy is that is that fake this kind of great the hand placement kind of close to them not this is not fake I don't think so is it No, this picture pop these by leeching hoops like you think this is a fake polaroid I it has to be no so picture. I mean why is it hand so low What's the basketball I don't know if it's more of a back to my career either guarding each other. Yeah, they're like patty People patch on their butt sports. It is what it is. This is not a pat It's probably a split second. I don't think he was in their fucking grip of different This is funny picture. I don't know they were tired together. They went on top together

31:15Yeah, the playing tennis together passing time doing retirement activities Thank you. I never seen this before from two players. I didn't think we're like best buds at all I thought they like respected each other and said but it's like it's cool to see yeah, no they're practicing their swing Living life. They're well done. They don't got to work. They can just chill. Yeah, what a cool experience to go out at the same time with one of your peers to holo famer is that like You have all the history together. It is real what the heck So preposterous to you No, the picture is definitely real. My question is why do you make him to a ballroom? That is like a wedding photo or something like that. Yeah, what's this event? They have picked the flowers in the background? Yeah, I guess it was like a retirement party Okay, yeah, probably. Which does cute. That's cool. No, this whole thing is cute as hell. I love it It's fantastic. Yeah, I just hear the music of the background What the fuck? The music in the background. Yeah It's here in the background

32:16That would be the crazy part. Why is that the song? They probably not thought it's the last day. They probably did dribbling slowly just West arrest makes no in the folks Yeah, good for them. I would like to throw labs on the out That would be very cool. You're Oscar. Where's got up? They'll just gonna be with the cops like crazy This is gonna be with the bronin career you do in the retire? They probably should I thought they're probably tired at the same time. They will Like a joint retirement party We're just like the best buzzer and do stuff like this post pictures playing tennis together and like be dream on a bronin definitely Oh, I think I think Stefan Stefan Bronner are within the first six months of both of them being retired They will post a Actually now honestly within six weeks they'll post a picture to get on the golf course. Can they call them doing the iG collab too? No pod

33:17Maybe I guarantee you the do a black assing off for sure. They'll do a memory lane buck acid down. You should do a memory lane dump Has Stefan on the yeah, no he went on on the game. Yeah, he did yeah I don't remember. Yeah I remember Let me see yeah You remember the because there was the one like during the Olympics those one with LeBron Stefan KD, but that was like an MBA Like center thing. I think that was only like 18 20 minutes. Yeah, he went on in november 2025 Okay, I think the three of them will probably get together to do like a full length one like one hour thing That'd be cool. Yeah Last thing to talk about today Michael Porter, Jr. is apparently a trade piece by the nets per a nets reporter. Oh thank goodness I thought you were gonna say something about something he said I bring this up because I'm curious which I'll think about this coming to next season The brick and nets view MPJ is more of a trade asset than a long term piece and his nets tenure might be coming to a close shortly

34:19And I'm in duh for the most part like shout out Eric Slater for the report. We're like duh I'm just curious how y'all feel about him as a trade piece like Do y'all Are you excited about an MPJ trade potentially like is he somebody like like moves you going to come here as a trade target for somebody? I Because I had to just be like yeah Do some real work I think like I would have assumed as much like he report on to make it clear for like yeah Good work Report For some season Brooklyn I mean But yeah guy got right like are you guys interested in him as a trade target or is he whatever like in school You have he average like what 25 or something crazy like that just start the year. I think I might have shot well Yeah, no, it definitely definitely went down because he was he was going crazy at the beginning of the year and then kind of tilt off but

35:24I think he is Super interesting as a as a trade target. I think it's very clear that He can he can help a lot of teams and even if he's not playing beside Yokechi could still be very helpful in his shooting and just the fact These six-taining in can shoot that way is Extremely versatile for a lot of teams. Yeah, you could get a lot of assets for him back or good amount of assets for him back I don't know what it might be like for sure like a first-round picks and maybe you can do yeah, probably honestly because he's not a all-star obviously But I think he is when it comes to talent level. He's not overly far off that he is a true difference maker You can't start on a lot of damn teams to Lee Yeah, I got a swap of two seconds for you Can we get this done a swap that's where you're 31 Lakers for a shopping swap So I don't move me He makes 35 million dollars a year. I don't even know if they could do that actually a lot of money. Yeah, I was kidding I think even without he slowed down. I think he went on some stream. Maybe it was a stream He was like yeah, because he didn't try me. I kind of cooled off the second half this evening

36:27He was trying to get out of there. Yeah fucking red flag Jesus Last thing I want to hear from Trader for this motherfucker. He's kind of honest. Yeah. Yeah, don't be Oh actually, I don't be honest that I see you red flags that like damn that's not a person I want There's also another stream where apparently you forgot the year he won a championship already That's got a great that's insane to me right there What what you're we were? I know that you're he won a championship How could you that's like the best moment of your life? What if it wasn't Okay, you live it's not a good moment. You've been in the lead some people are not defying I just what happens on maybe a floor like that could not be that could be I get if you have to so much this isn't the point at all By the way, it's a matter of simple memory. Yeah, you know for eight years only eight numbers. It could be one out of eight You can't remember that One or eight that's 13 You got eight options to pick a number. You don't know which one it is Yeah, it's not the first couple so you really got like five options I don't know like the last couple so you really got like three options that just a minute is trade value. I ain't gonna lie

37:28I don't know why it would say so like it doesn't bode well at the least like these a These eight 22 I you just say he didn't remember All right, that doesn't bother me too much. I raised my eyebrow. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying fucking run I'll leave for it, but I definitely like huh. Yeah I know that's our MPJ guys You are and so it's like it's not about me not be yeah, are you a guy who the fuck has an MPJ guy? I guess too much man. That's too much. I mean, I'm just I'm just saying like I think it's remember the wrong sweater saying you a judge didn't see I think it's like wait, what oh you didn't see somebody made a a wokeness meter to eat for us. Oh They said that would have shot Guys a

38:2823 is that's not like if he's just like oh what year News for this week We're gonna do as you see by the main title we are gonna tier list NBA offseason roster upgrades We will see a series of graphics that shows the player that was added as well as the player they are either trading for or directly replace We'll decide where they go in this tier list the tiers are You can win a chip now, so we can this move directly put them into title contention doesn't mean they're the favorites Obviously no one's gonna be the favorite over like this person thunder or whatever But you can feasibly win a chip because of this move Objectively solid upgrade, so maybe not chip but like you got better and you can't really deny it Risky, but I feel good about it can go with the way right but I feel good about your bet Risky and I don't feel good Literally nothing changes so there's no risk just apathy and you outwards Hell yeah, okay

39:30So apathy is just barely above getting worse You'd almost rather feel something than nothing even if the nothing is neutral So first off Randall and Nasrie turning into a mellow ball Uh, you I think you got better now. I do have questions about the size on this team awkwardly enough like over the last three years Even when cat was here like everyone was like, you know the biggest drink for this team is their size they have length on length on length And they don't have to be like overly in defense position to make an impact and now a lot of the length got zapped Yeah, you got really go bare still there, you know, they make Daniel so they which is which is great, but You are gonna miss that so badly, but I still think because of the Attributes between Lamello and Anthony at words and how they have super strengths when it comes to 3.0 Literally like 3.0 attempts such as like that I think they got better at the end of the day Yeah, they get coming good to get some of that size back and these get a starting caliper player that six foot eight

40:31Right so they're not gonna be like a complete hole power forward you get a Like low level starter level to get there like you thought you were okay with that right like it's fine Plug and play to start him next to jaden So that kind of mitigates some of the like glaring holes of the trade Do we feel like obviously we all like the limo and antfit we've been verbal about that all summer The riskiness factor would be the injury stuff right do you guys feel good about the pivot to get Anthony at words area to that next level being a guy who gets hurt a lot in limelo um So do I feel good about it? Yeah, I do I would have it in risky by feel good about it Yeah, and the riskiness is the health related stuff. Is it just that Just overall personality. I also think the fact that I think overall personality and the fact that he's also not a good defender at all and um at least in this specific deal Because you salary dumped Randall and then you traded Nasrid Your and Dante's hurt your death is very very slim and I think going

41:32Going all in for limelo at this point it It does put a lot of pressure on this move to to work out because if he doesn't perform to a certain level which they had Randall and he wasn't Shown up in the playoffs anyway, so there's gonna be an upgrade there But for the next era you do need limelo to be the good version of limelo that we saw last year and Will we get to see that? I think they need even need him to be like the better version of him than last year Honestly, like didn't even I don't even know if he shot like above 40% of the field last year It was like that dicey when it comes to his efficiency and I want to see him of course the same keep the same level of playmaking But also can you like defer a little bit more shots even maybe even like boost up that playmaking a little bit more We're just like I think as many dumb shots. I feel like you certainly will and that's why I like it They're like you players like this need to be forced to defer You know they're not gonna do it just because like shout out con I'm still gonna get my shots in playing with aunt like you have to mentally make a change You're going to somebody else's team a player that is clearly a much much better score than you

42:35You know the brought you for playmaking the one two punch abilities there like readily apparent You've got to be so hard headed to not move more towards playmaking that I really really like that for him Yeah, he shot 40.7% from the field that's discussed about the same as a previous year where he's at 40.5 No granted he shoots 10-3 is a game So his effective local percentage was about his career high 51.6% which isn't like good But it wasn't disaster his true shooting was True looking for shooting 54% so it's like 2% below league average Mm-hmm. So not not good not good Yeah, but risky for the of course like the off-worsif is hilarious to say but risky definitely because I can imagine a world where he just Isn't good enough straight up. Do you think we overblow the risk like like I said Shooting guard there as much better scored him to make him defer Two elite defenders in a lineup to kind of like make up for that He's ever played with an elite protector like go bear. I don't even know if he's played with an elite Wing slash forward defender like uh, like jaden

43:37Kamehameh kind of do some of the bridges stuff you did running in transition helping facilitate that I don't know if there's a big downside other than injury risk, which is baiting with everybody I kind of feel like a subjectively solid upgrade low key They're my role the ball out team of the year We're like on paper thunders first. Okay. I'll got it objectively. I mean there. Let's talk can they win a chip though? Cuz like I don't know I don't I don't think they're seven game series to me. We gotta say what does win a chip mean because like wait where's a line? Are they a serious like contender? Series contender. I feel like means like one of the three or four teams that we're gonna say you really win Are we gonna are we opening room in our hearts for like You can make a run and surprises like I'm busy. There's room for that But also I think there's room for that because they've done it two of the last three years. Yeah, and like last year Last year they were still in the second round. They won a playoffs series even with everybody hurt and Randall playing you know terribly So there is room where it's okay You reload and you you know shift up the way that your team operates now you can go ahead and and play a different style

44:41Maybe maybe you can't get there but When the chip I do think you have to be one of the like the three or four best teams in the league and I don't feel Like that about them right now. I want to make it that narrow personally just cuz like It's really like that. It's really like that though Like because like the inner the inner circle of contenders is normally pretty narrow. Yeah, and Okay, then I think we should talk about the outer circle contenders done for that just because I think no We're breaking the inner circle like that's really hard to be thunderous for a level and though nicks in there I would say Do we think there can be that second level of like they have a real chance, you know You just fucking get excited for a second. No, it's like the other champions in there. Yeah It's not a man. It's not a man. They're like the world is already yeah I think for me personally what's kind of hard is I have to I have to see it first because you literally got rid of Uh Whole theme and like a pillar of your team. It's we're gonna be bigger than every single team out there And we're gonna have so much depth to prove that they don't they're not the biggest team out there anymore

45:42Like yeah, they still have size and all that but not the largest no I don't mean if you think you were to that though for early we can't look over the fact that the mellable at six seven and rebounds And I'm not saying he's the most physical guy in the world. Obviously he's like a great defender You're a lot bigger with a six seven point guard And they get coming out there next to jade McDaniel's that's six But he's coming to six seven six eight which shoes Jaden's like six ten these days That's just as big not as much girth and to him within a Julie's rental But that's still pretty big and stuff that eat those you still go bare the physicality of anti-edwards Losing Audrey at the bench definitely hurts that so the depth isn't quite as big But I do still think they'll have some type of overwhelming size and win the rebounding battle because of lamello I don't think they completely lose identity No, but uh That's a fast athletic team. Can I get athletic? I mean, I think they're I think they're tall I don't think that they're like they're bruising like they're not big Yeah, so like they do have the length where you could win elsewhere, but like Randall is Randall is a strong guy now. I was read has size to him So even and especially when you're talking about these like double big lineups

46:43That's one of the only reasons why now's read can Feel somewhere additive is is because he's big and you have the the size to at least bang with with bigs Kaminga's not doing that. Lamello doesn't doesn't provide that at all So I think it's doing that I think it's one of the few things he does You think Kaminga can can actually bang. Yeah, that's like he can throw his body running bang I think those like those shining moments in the Hawks playoff series where we're like look at these flashes of Kaminga It was in him running in transition and blocking shit like really banging like what it's doing But the thing is that's only happens in flashes bro like for us two games of that series He had eight rebounds combined bro. Yeah, I'm not saying so it's like he's Randall in terms of banging around But I think if you're selling yourself on like the situations good for him and we think it's an okay starter I think he brings bang around is like all I'm saying. I'm not saying he'll be great, but like If you can harness that I think he bangs is all I'm saying So that's a bang in spurts to on the to mules. Yeah, you can bang in spurts Yeah, that's just there's our replacing they're replacing Randall with a twig is all the same Fay I yeah, it's just it is a big difference where you had two guys who can actually bang more consistently than what Kaminga

47:48I love to bang discourse. Yeah, and The the Kaminga stuff this is the reason why he got 12 million over two years is because at this point in his career He's just flashes and so if we're assuming that they get to chip status I think that's assuming that this is the spot where everything absolutely clicks and maybe Maybe it is but also I think that we have talked So much about Kaminga and about potential and nothing means yeah I'm not saying their title damn thing. I'm not saying their title hopes are trying to come in good all I think same thing. I thought was a lakeer than that was in the air Can we just be regular? Can we be baseline like get some good trades out of him But like just be a fifth starter to me. It's about the lamello ant pairing being sane and go bear is still being there Doing everything go bears done well. That's the only reason I brush topic of maybe they can be second level contenders You know what? I think we'll move me ultimately if the ant and lamello thing I have no doubt so work I think it will work out 100% and I think we're just gonna have another great year Ultimately for me it's who are who's gonna be like the six seventh guy off the bench who can make make a real impact

48:52I assume it's gonna be I do some move. Of course. He's gonna be like normal My B.S.S. man of the year Canada or whatever but more so it's like What is ternish and in junior prepare to do you know or these other young guys who's gonna like come in and step up and give you like real valuable 15 20-minute spurts while it's out in the game or if jane and Dan Dan is out to like so if I can that matters and I don't know if they're there yet so This specific move if we're putting Kaminga into it Then I can say objectively solid upgrade if we're just going this one I still think that there's some risk then my vote would be ejected. We saw it upgrade you going risky, but you feel good about it What do you feel think risky, but I feel good about it. Okay, be so do you agree? Yeah Is it on this all right risky it is I'm Again, I'm only starting this combo with them because I haven't like so got to spend time. Do you think about it? I'm flirting with that idea that they'll be a contender like I think so yeah, yeah, I think this is obviously risk involved like we outlined I don't feel like like fantastic about the wing group with Kaminga taren chan in all these guys, but I think their strengths might be insanely strong

49:54Next one tally hero to Janis will simplify it there to that star difference there obviously more stuff is involved in clear depth But tally here we're probably going to Janis you could win a chip now Do we think you think that I'm surprised I think that So I think the way that the rest of the offseason has gone from from iami also is influencing but I think that having Janis there It's you're at least two tiers above what you were with tally hero and you have a you have an actual championship ceiling to where you can go out Be aggressive in the trade market go get somebody back and having a having a big manduo of Janis and bam It is when you're going up against a wimby when you're going up against a thunder obviously this would be in the finals Because they're opposite conferences, but even if you're talking about the top teams in the east If you're going up against the against the nicks and you have cat there that's super physical You have two bigs that like in that can guard him the pistons if they have durn

50:56Do you have two guys that can like you dominate right there? So I do think that they have gotten to that level Yeah, interesting so that from from that upgrade. I think it gives them that ceiling is definitely objectively good upgrades Like there's no there's no risk involved I think in doing that trade to get Janis as far as you know what you will get from Janis You know you probably are still on a perfect team or anything But he's fucking the honest he's one the least risk players in the world unless he gets hurt which everybody can get hurt I struggle to know if I feel like they're gonna be a will continue to use this parameter a second tier title contender I don't know like do you feel better about them than the Celtics Then the Celtics I say yes only because I have a couple worries about tate him in the consistency that he's gonna be What to provide because the whole Achilles stuff still I think it's gonna be fine but more so I think Janis you're gonna take that I think Janis is gonna come different this year because I think he has a lot to Not necessarily to prove but more so like to the For himself and I was like the outer world Yo like we're talking about who's the best player in the NBA

51:57Yoke it's Wembee and Shay no one's ever meant to nionis those conversations at all And that's for like pretty like valid reasons He hasn't made a deep playoff run in a minute and I think overall when it comes to zoning out when it comes to this roster plays there now david omitio he's not a bad player and he can be additive in certain ways Bam is bam and juregans is like the Find a fine player there at the three spot two I think they have just enough to actually contend and if they were to raise up the trophy at the end of the year I would not be surprised it would shock me. Oh, it would definitely shock me I'm not it would shock you yeah I just feel like recollecting the conversations we've had after the honest trade afterwards We were happy for the heat in terms of like oh you finally got your start and everything But then we had like follow up conversations about the operational on of eastern conference teams. Yeah, he's looking for god about the heat But I'm surprised I'm just in this down. I was like I don't know if they're gonna be a top 16. I'm having the plan Yeah, cuz we brought though it was the nicks the Celtics the sixers the raptors. Yeah, but I do think this is an interesting combo

52:59As far as this tierless goes because I Don't think they're a contender right now But I do think getting y'allness and having a player that good with another star there put you in striking distance that like Yeah, you could win a chip. It'll require a couple things to go your way, but like I feel like when you have y'allness you're always close Unless it goes really poorly and like she is disastrous, which I don't feel like they have that many like crazy outcomes on the table. I feel like they're gonna be good. Yeah I've as the offseason has has gone on I've started to like them a little bit more and clay moved you Not really not not not crazy you can fill the ore, but I mean let's see. He's out in Miami. It's met the new ray Allen bb. Oh click Now what I was talking about Different kind of ore there one check mine souls Gaser he's in a number one spot He sees the convoes were asses and even balls You won't throw it. Listen for that Amboats for that and boats. He's in the best spot in the country

54:01So for somebody who's like 35 and just trying to be out here live life. He's out there. He's doing it. That's not what he said He said bb.l clay That's a different sentence Maybe But so okay with the with the he even even looking like I think they could be better than than the Celtics this year they could and they definitely could. Yeah, it's on the table um, I could see him like if they get to If everything clicks, I can see them being like the two C and it wouldn't it wouldn't shock me. Yeah, I I've started I've started to feel Worst about a lot of the other teams in the in the east and so I've in along with that the heat have been rising up Yeah, I think so do you so say he'd be shocked we wanted to have you shift and I think I agree with him Others use different words. I would definitely be surprised as far as I won't predict it But I can't be shocked when you have y'all in the same bam and the best coach in the league like it's always on on the table It's a unlikely outcome to me But it's likely enough that it's not shocking

55:03Yeah, like the Miami Heat winning if they won next year It wouldn't shock me because I'm like you want to y'all it's the player in peak of his prime with another all star and other Group with I think we still say Yeah, you know, you know, you know, I mean you can't go whatever he's still like one of the best players in the world And he has a saw cast guys like Tim marley junior clay bam Andrew Wiggins. I think the nicks winning This year was like genuinely shocking to me in the whole world That was more shocking see but that got shocking because midseason But before the season people were picking on the finals So like even that's not shocking the Pacers making the finals in shocking to me That's what shocking to me is a team that we had no business putting them on the conversations All those things talking to me. Yeah, yeah, like patience. That's the type of thing that I find shocking I don't think a heat run would be nearly as surprising as that. Yeah Yeah, I think I think the most shocking thing would just be like Damn, I'm surprised all it came together this quickly. Yeah, the magic making the finals would be shocking That that's the thing that's never gonna happen But if it would it's shocking all right like that's honestly That's just as likely as the patient's doing it preseason like we did not see that

56:04I think it's more unlikely. I think we might have ranked at whatever I'm kind of stuck on the heat just being like a second on exit like anything more anything less. I'm surprised That's just a Celtic area. I think I agree I just I just I think the conference finals I'd be surprised. I think the east is Very I think the east has a lot of good teams and the east is very wide open And so if Miami made the conference finals, I wouldn't be shocked if they if they made it there Me neither but would be surprised. I think I agree with you in essence But I'm leaving my heart open for them. It's a surprise me. Yeah. Uh next one Deandreine to Walker Kessler That shit's objectively solid upgrade Yeah, literally like you know what he's gonna do every day. You can win a chip now I think people are under rating that difference there of the room protection. It's it's massive offensively it's probably not massive But defensively especially with what they need from that position with a Luca donches lead team and awesome Reesbingers co-star People are definitely sleeping on the defense. He doesn't have to be really good barely people hope They're sleeping on the difference in just ability to hide for others. I just don't I just don't think you can You can win a chip with a guy like eight and being one of the three best players on your team

57:08When the fuck was he one the three best players or let's spend yeah as fit starter But like I like it whatever that was crazy fine whatever But I just He's not a There's a lot of players that like we give this Monica to he actually is an embodiment of somebody who's not a winning player And and I think that I think that getting Walker Kessler gets an actual center in the in the building and Get somebody that you don't have to micro manage on a night tonight basis on not only are you doing the correct things in the game but effort level from You know month to month night tonight and I think that they have a legitimate chance to like if Luca comes out and It has you know one of those seasons and has the MVP year that we've all been asking for for the last you know five years If you if you get that combination of Rees has ascended to a certain place You're getting 50 every night from a back core and then walk his are holding it down. That's awesome

58:08Well 55 yeah, that's meanably different to you like that's a lot If assuming it's 30 and 35 30 25 which you could be higher Luca could be a 33 and awesome reviews like 27. Yeah, it could be crazy. Yeah, you could be pushing 60 from your back core But I'm assuming the safe 55 so dumb. Oh, that is a crazy strength and now I will say putting bias aside Maybe if I was a different fan maybe I'd want to say uh risky but if we're good about it Just because it really is they're all in move two first two swaps They only have one swap left in a couple seconds So for this coming year before pick start to replenish This for this cycle of 12 months. This is your big move. You're not gonna have a crazy deadline acquisition This has to work. Yeah, and you did get hurt last year only play five games We assume he would have made a durentiply. He was clearly like make being meaningfully better in those five games It is five games. It is your only move. He has to fix everything defensively since it's really hard to form a defense with Luca and Rees He's the one answer there. I could just I can understand saying it's risky. Yeah, I could too But the only reason why I'm not ulti-muse because you're coming from eight but it's not risky Yeah, the combos were eight were like

59:09Value deal eight million dollars fit starter with all these playmakers He can be just good enough that with the right fit he can be a surprisingly slightly above average starter The Walker Kesser combos is like can he be your third star? Can we really really get the most out of him? And he can be a elite defender while averaging 14 points for game in stress in the floor Like it's just an entirely different realm of possibilities. Yeah, that's why I think there's just risking everything you do If you want to live a live like that or whatever, but ultimately this is like a solid upgrade and I'm not gonna Even if Walker Kesser gets hurt offer bitten like a miss five months or whatever I'm still gonna feel good about this. Yeah when I was being a blind optimism for aiden. I was like 17th best set in the league Let's get to it. Walker Kesser. I can be like, you know, in the year at seven like climb the fucking ranks like we can get to being top 10 So yeah that the risk is definitely there, but it is an objectively solid upgrade. Yeah, Paul George to Jaylon Brown for the six years Uh, you got worse You did not hear for the Celtics no, no, no, for the six six. Oh, okay Hey, let's five

1:00:13Takes today okay, isn't that risky? Not really no, just objectively solid upgrade. Yeah, just objectively solid upgrade for sure But I don't think you can win a chip not based on this move Actually, I think you could not I think if we gave it to the heat we gotta give to them too because they they can take it Within tracking distance all the reason I say that is obviously the bronze coming up and I felt like that's the one you can Win a chip now because one more piece Lebron's here too. Yeah, okay. So yeah, I think the Lebron thing. Yeah, that's true I like I like how you think of that because when jamebron got there first you're like okay cool Like that's mad interesting. We're still not gonna put you as like Upper echelon contender in the eastern conference. Yeah Just as a deal while in B as you're as your second best player at their best player whatever he falls in that The injury stuff is so scary that I don't think that move along getting jennum brown makes it so they're a title contender But we skip ahead. I think we put jennum brown and solidly objectively objectively good upgrade and then Lebron james from Cali Ubrei into you can win a chip now Because getting him for nothing puts him over the top to being clearly more talented enough that they could they could be if everything clicks for them the best team in the east Yeah, like a hundred percent the only thing that's like tough for me when it comes to

1:01:18Thinking about them as the best team of these and maybe we're winning a championship is their backup center position like the whole beat stuff is Everyone's made that's a whole thing within itself But who's their backup? See he's like Nick rick is Nick rick's there. I think You know he just signed with somebody else. I forget Okay, I think his back is understood hook porties there now. That's tough. That's strong. It's bona Dem bona Yeah, it's bona and and hug and they have barletters and small balls center stuff. Okay. Yeah I wish that was like a little bit better or more or stronger, but KCP is there now you got to have free signs We can at least like shoot the shoot the shit out of the ball and file on juniors They just have bucket getters off the bench. Yeah, yeah, yeah Deand waiting KCP out the bench bringing together forget Dean wait is here the roster is played They got a lot of pieces bro. You're right. They do you one more center. Hopefully and hopefully you I don't know their pick situation. Hopefully they can acquire what cheap one at the deadline. Mm-hmm I don't super bust Absolutely they clearly are so talented you have to say they can win championship. Yeah, I don't know I'm not gonna pick them over the nicks to come out the east right away and we'll see who I feel about some other teams in the conference

1:02:20But they're clearly close enough if we're given they heat close enough the six is your close enough Yeah, they're much closer than he'd are Are we for sure for sure are we trying to try down that on polymarket or Makes Lock it in Lebron What a tacky ass brand deal I hope I hope people understand you're joking before we get fucking what That shit was so fucking tacky We got basketball on polymarket mr. Basketball The goat Bro the him him going into the elevator and pressing sports was like No, I didn't watch that's what happened. Yeah, oh brother And it takes him all the way up there and then he walks in and oh what's on the screenshot of all the buttons Is it like crypto finance? Is elevator of everything that you can trade on on polymarket jack me at a good point I saw him say on tiktok that he believes that only reasons the Lebron isn't shack level of my faces on everything

1:03:25It's because he understands brand saturation and it would be bad for the brand too much because he has a modern marketing mind Jack is completely right Would stab his fucking face on everything if it was smart But it wouldn't be because then it would be too much. Yeah, this was a sign that Lebron will be ready for money We honestly should have seen this coming because even even before like the honest stuff in in car she came out I mean Lebron's been the moment they the the league started to have like gambling be like really in there He's been in it. He's been on draft Kings for years now. Yeah. Oh, you know, I think you'd ask me What is all this coming like this is an ass rocking yeah And I was in the day what it really wasn't shocking at all to be personally It was like oh, yeah, there we are. Yeah fingers check that box here we go. Yeah, he's locking And they're locking the championship robust and I agree You guess you can bet it on polymarket. I'm fucking guess if you're so inclined I would not be betting on those six years on any platform save your life. Yeah, I would not be betting on the six years And I wouldn't be using polymarket all Uh next one max drus to pay in Watson

1:04:27Oh Man, I think you're mad regular. Hey man literally nothing changes nothing There they've been a wing away though for being good and they were too be fair I know we're all anti-cats because they're lame and when I said too be fair They were in the comfort championship and they got a wing upgrade of a young player that we feel decent about two things one once again completely misread this and I feel like as soon as I heard max drus I was like oh clippers. Yeah, nothing matters Oh You enlist reading the Cavaliers a new starting three is paid in Watson. They sent out stuff essentially mac shrews Okay, I actually think objectively solid upgrade. I I think that um, I think that mac shrews especially for a lot of Series and games as a as a shooter and as somebody like where that is his job. I think he's actually He's tricky. I think he's fairly like inconsistent. Well, he's also been hurt. I think it's the main problem there It's been this year but also even if you go and look at the the Miami runs those numbers are not consistently like oh

1:05:28This is like our shooter. I think he's always been Uh, very like his his highs are very high, but I think that you can he's not he's not there definitely so I think adding a different element In in your roster and when you have When you have Jared Allen who is like athletic and you have mobility who's still super young But you have James Hardin whose old is how you have demitch that He's not he's not washed, but I don't think he's at the peak of his powers. He turned 30 today. Yeah Today's the birthday. Yeah. Yeah, adding adding you always know We'll just on Instagram man popped up the first thing on my mind. He's that thing. It's fine. You always that too Don't be ashamed of it. You know what that's honestly a very good skill is known when people's Yeah, you're a nowhere. I don't know anybody's birthday. I forget friends birthdays. Well, I was having what you went Oh today's my brother's birthday too. What's for sure? Oh, okay Like I mean that's where I was How's it? Yeah, how's it called? I just said it takes it all But that's not the draw directions recognize patterns. That's how you become a man. Oh, yeah, sure

1:06:31I'll put a comment at 9 p.m. on Instagram. Kicking candle brother I Don't you not really good move out. It's a good move for them I'm like I guess the risk could be That he's not worth that much money because he had that one stretch or things really clicked And our view of him as a promising player came together because of three weeks of him just being a really good play finisher off a yoke I guess it's a world in which that's a fluke and he's not quite worth the investment and it's a Christian Brown situation But who are the other guys that they've had in that in that spot is Dianna Hunter Max Struse I said a coral He's better than all of them Well, there's a chance he's not theory. He is I think I think even I think painting Watson as As is right now is better than Dianna Hunter I think that he's better than than a coral I think I think I think the Struse thing is like debatable maybe but even then he's still he's a way better different than Struse He's still he's still wild athletic and I think that that in itself Helps and it allows you to play a certain way if you want to stagger line of different lean and gives those those things a different a different look and

1:07:38like one of the They they were they were very very they looked old last year which is weird because they made the conference finals and like But you look at the way that they went out and they were closing games with no with no energy They weren't running like there was a lot of things where I think that having a a young athletic wing can help Yeah, insert some energy into that line. Yeah overall at first I was thinking like this is risky. I do feel good about it Because you did get a little younger with this and he is a good player and he's someone who regardless of what you decide to do with your roster He can like maintain his stabilized at three spot for a good amount of time. Yeah Now what if we're next movie? Yeah, exactly not when it comes to the ceiling I don't know that's when I start to get like risky talk because there's so much that he hasn't Fruitfully in his game yet, but overall objectively you got better at the end of the day I'm just worried that there's a world in which he's nothing special and that there that was a not linsean He wasn't an amazing, but like that was a best-case scenario things click for a month when you say right now

1:08:39He's better than so and so During that month he was better than he got hurt and missed time I don't know that I have a solidified view of how good he really is for a whole season. Yeah Maybe I'm just not the biggest Max Drew's guy where I'm just immediately saying that Watson's better. Yeah, and I'm not the biggest Max Drew's guy either I'm just scared that maybe there's a world in which the pain in watching thing was a house of cards and we're like Oof I think well I think that that could be true and you still might get better and you're still better Sure, they only have so many swings So I'm saying maybe there's some risk involved that like when you have expensive SD-mitch and gave James Harden money to his 40 You only have so many 22-minute-hour contracts to hand out so it's just Oof Jared Allen. Hey, we got a trade-jare down because we signed Peyton Watson didn't we've been talking about trading jade Allen But if I get a trade-jane because I got a done money because Peyton Watson didn't work. It's a fucking disaster also I think I think we've also seen the way that they're offering to run so you probably need to be pushed into doing that so that you can finally If you come to the to the decision that mobile has to play the five so that we can unlock our team to the fullest extent

1:09:45I'm sorry jade you're getting back doored like you're getting traded okay Branden Ingram being upgraded to koai Leonard oh You can get chip now can't I think they're really good. I think when a chip with Ingram I mean my bet with koai and Scotty Barnes and no amazingly guard I mean quickly it's good enough maybe Do you feel like with y'all cappurdle there at the center that contracts on the books? I think it puts them in the same tier as the heat where you are now in striking distance and you can you can go do something for real and I the same way that we talked about Randall and his platform I don't think we can overstate how detrimental Brandon Ingram was to the Raptors last year in the playoffs and how bad he truly was and To go from him to koai a Man the size of a leap a man that's that's uh that The version of be either we got in the playoffs to koai is about the same if not more from it's probably it's more than Tyler Hero to Janus oh yeah, I'd rather that time here than be I buy healthy margin. Yeah, yeah, so I think I think they're in that tier

1:10:51I don't know if like when a chip now was like so such strong He'd down if we're if we're basing a lot of these things on them, but I think that they are They they can be in the if they're better than Boston Detroit Cleveland It wouldn't it wouldn't shock me. I think you would shock me a little bit It'll shock me a little bit only because of the pieces around then Detroit Not Detroit. No, just clean up his wing and championship. These comparisons don't matter Yeah, it's about beating one team of the East and a couple in the West The comparison to their peers that also aren't touching shit. Don't matter It's just like can this team win four playoff rounds. I feel like there one piece away That being another playmaker But you know this trait puts you one piece away and that piece is pretty like I can imagine I'm getting that piece So currently constructive they can get to the conference finals Okay, yeah, they could yeah, I don't have any reason to disagree with that. I'm pretty good. They could they could We can put in there why not fuck it. We're given expectations everybody everybody can win a chip this time of year Why not I think the East has made a lot of good teams. Yeah, a lot of good teams

1:11:51Royce O'Neill to Miles Bridges We're something you know plus grace and Alan plus a first You got worse you got wait and the suns man you got worse I think what you think about the draft capital you open how important that is and how that could be used for a different move How fucking they got worse. I think Miles Bridges is broke It's all 20 points per game fuck Need that you add his 20 points with Dylan Brooks's 20 points. That's exactly where I was Listen, you got 80 It's that we got double Luca. We're better to look at by twice as much. We have three We have three 20 point scores. It's the same thing is having Booker Bill Katie everybody can go out there and get a bucket Like whenever you're the suns the what you want to do is you want to replicate booker Katie bill That's what you want to do every time. Yeah, it honestly feels like they didn't learn shit at all from that first girl Because they looked at it. They said we were right in theory right we just got the wrong players But having a bunch of guys who can score that's what we need on our team But we need worse versions of those guys though. Oh, naturally. Yeah, so you think they're worse. We're getting good value on them

1:12:58Next up Isaac Accora was turning into norm pal now they kept Accora but Accora's bench now They had a bunch of guards. I guess it's like Colin Sexton's rushers pop being replaced But Accora was a starting shooting guard in next year So we put him but it doesn't matter norm pal as an upgrade to the starting shooting guard of the bulls Yo, I objectively feel solid about this upgrade like obviously they're not like sniffing a tape or whatever But in terms of what they need in order for to make their young players lives easier That's being josh kitty. Of course Kale bulls in and modest like this is a great upgrade Yeah, see that or nothing changes because they're just the bull still It doesn't matter Yeah, if you want to be mean, but I think it matters because it'll open up modest results game a little bit even more and also make Kale bulls life so much easier I guess so they they needed a shooter. Yeah, so they can be mad at it. Yeah, and they went on they got one So I was in bronze turning into bison. Mm-hmm I think this literally changes nothing I think it's a good move. I guess, but if they're gonna win the championship, they're gonna do regardless

1:13:59Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's not gonna be because it's a divine. Yeah, so like I think it's a it's a fine move to get them I yeah, I guess it could there's a wall. I'll say this even if they had to buy his hair instead of to tell him hair some barns Lassard they're still losing yeah, and I think next year if they're gonna win their room regardless But to be fair, I guess is a world in which having a veteran she'd rather like a rebound and defend some fours That can move a little better than Harrison Barnes and can be more consistent than Keldin and Carter Maybe that does concussion a playoff series. Maybe I should say it's an important piece It's a solid upgrade, but it also changes nothing. Yeah, it changes nothing Is it just if they win it solely because the other guy still Okay, so we'll acknowledge it's a good upgrade that it was a solid move But in the grand scheme of the title window and title race this won't be deciding factors. Yeah, there's like you win a chip now Yeah, like I don't do regardless because like would If they had to buy his Harris they would have put him in obviously over over Harrison You needed somebody who could make some shot in the last three minutes But if that ball's fine in Tobias Harris for a majority of his career. I don't feel great about

1:15:00Those situations, so that's why it's hard for me to part The only thing is we were saying they really need to get a power forward We're like we really need that so we don't have to have Champaigni who's like a shooting guard playing for who's playing great But like damn we got to ask banging on the boards like we need another body down there to help win be We were saying all that so I don't want to be hypocritical now and act like tell like Tobias Harris isn't a good move So do you want to be positive and say up solid upgrade or say it doesn't matter. It is a solid upgrade We can move it to that point. Okay. I think we should because it does seem something okay His hair is better than hair smart like we're positive today everybody's being on the top of the tier list. No, he's mid Joshua Kodge to mark your smart Okay, we need to solve it up great. No, no I don't know No, man, I feel kind of risky about it. You know it. This is what the offseason is for yeah positivity to be hopeful Objectively solid upgrade Why not do it to him do it to him sick sick right Russell Westbrook to dare his a cup When the chip now

1:16:01I'm just kidding We have some draper later ones. We're all gonna say good because they're drapes of regardless. I guess we ended here You know this is what he had a young Listen a lot of teams got better this this offseason so we don't feel bad about anybody's risk I feel I had about risk. Oh, no, I skipped one. Sorry. Mm-hmm Jeremy Grant to John Morant Oh, literally change nothing. Yeah, I think I changed it. I don't I don't think good. I don't think anything matters Is it not risky and you don't forget about it? It's not risky. It's not nah I think it's risky but what's the risk what's the argument for risk? What's the argument for risk? Give too many guards and shit implodes and well, she didn't hurt now Okay, and so there's there's more this is more space. I would say only only risky because you're taking away more opportunity from guys like Scoot And you have gave me a little or drew a holiday. Listen It is it's clunky you're making you're being clunky for no reason. Yeah, exactly. I was supposed. Yeah

1:17:03What's the best case scenario here? You have Damien and Lillard So like as best case scenario he's six man. I guess you trade your holiday but you haven't expressed any need or interest in doing that I guess scoot your backup shooting guard and John Danny or your leave-all handlers What's the upside here? That's all fucking ridiculous. Yeah The risk is you just did some bullshit for no reason and now everybody loses because nobody gets enough touches and you have a nightmare season from hell With nothing to be reaped So you okay Dubside is you make Danny worse you make school where she make day worse you make Drujali worse. Why don't they job made day worse? I think they kill you probably made that's all I mean I just mean like everybody's in a worse situation succeed now So you say so you would say risky and you don't feel good personally yes Yeah, yeah, and I don't feel good because even if like the feel good what is there to feel good? What can you like reap off at that? And it definitely doesn't change nothing you change this fucking everything The team is objectively very different now this could like legitimacy set back your team potentially

1:18:04But it's also But see it's also you think it's not like you got worse because it could work Risky means it could go good or could go bad We don't know and this this tier means we're on the slightly negative side But there is an upside where they just all those names don't matter because John's back to being John They have a franchise point guard Whatever the percentage is however small it is that's in the air They could be grasping for that and good for them. I guess the downside is everybody is awkward We place on the roster now because of this yeah And I don't love that calculus just a cast of misfits bro I wish I got rid of some other people like trade your holiday and sell high and get some picks then I Should you chase cool? I don't know I don't know what else I would do, but I would do something else and I have five guards need the ball in their hands Scoops is there man. Yeah, so we just go. Yeah, I wouldn't trace go. Yeah, some flashes I guess But like drew holiday should be super traded by now. Yeah, if you're gonna do this Oh, he will be yeah, probably dead. How much how much you make 35 that's too much for just too much Just too much I think he does make a lot of money, bro

1:19:06They cashed him for some some idols No, it's not miles already established. He says throw you punch cards He's making 34 million dollars this year Yeah, where's that worth in roblox dollars? Roblox man We We got a different spot because 34 American dollars. That's way too much American dollars too much I got more dollars for you. I don't like even to you. No, you take it back. No, you took that really Yeah, I swear you I swear you can we can run back to foot it. Do you have it? You took it back after I took it back after he's givin for the camera Bro, I don't have this in my wallet. You're lying to me

1:20:09You have it at your crib I promise Last year we did do today before we get out of here Why do we we are gonna play the NBA and foster game where you knew three rounds of it Andre is texting us all name three of us will get the name sent to us one of us will get a posture sent to us And we'll take turns saying vague descriptions of the player until we figure out who the imposter is Say I love this game Carefully. I'm so good at it Yeah Well, let you go first we'll go you will rotate around Donovan mo me first text should be on the way everybody get it Okay, so who's the NBA foster be so as you start I just guess who it is All right first description you got all Okay

1:21:12Black Black man Okay, I'm gonna say let's see all the stereotypes Nice shoes Um, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say um star star yeah, okay, star worker My shoes star hard worker Okay, I'm gonna say Popular Markable I guess we're kind of similar part Not every star is markable

1:22:16Um say good lucky three thrown um Did you type? I don't know about that. Just you know. There's some my objectivity my words. Okay. You respect this game. Yeah Game recognize game type yeah I say leader leader Okay, okay What sense? Hmm what sense he belied him leader of men Whatever He's a natural born leader Okay, okay Um, I'm gonna say smart Good nickname Versatile Versatile yeah Um, what did you say? It's smart smart You think we get it school test Yeah, maybe not that necessarily you don't have to be school smart to be smart. Mm-hmm. You're where it matters. Yeah

1:23:22I will say you speak smart. I'll say Street smart. Maybe street smart too Yeah, what did you say passion it passionate passionate did you say something like that? No, oh he's a hard work. That's right Okay, passionate. I'm gonna say funny He's funny, isn't yeah funny guy. Thank you. I was thinking I just completed the last century I thought I'll just leave it to you I just don't know I'll just turn it to and I really just went to the top There's no time. We actually running it back. We actually funny. Yeah So do I think he's funny? He's lying. Uh, hi pick Um try hard Somebody said hard working already. I know that I'm working hard. He said hard. He said try hard

1:24:23Doesn't vote well for you I think those are two different things you can be hard working but being a try hard that's something else man You're right. That is different. You know what fair? Yes, I'm fair. I'll give it to you Yeah We'll give it you take care of the dungeon um I will say Disappointing I wasn't saying the same thing what That's fair word Not a lot. I think I smell it in pasta right now. I do too. Yeah, I got it Bullseye I do too Uh, I'm gonna say Money spreads Unlimited money spreads Twitter controversy I think I got it my tripping Okay, no who it is now you want to vote? I don't think you're tripping Yeah, who you going on? I think it's you buddy

1:25:23I think it's you You agree? I think it is you it's you know shit Is this what's work? Oh No, not Russ. Yeah, only we said there's no rust you said nice shoes on my issues are hideous I thought maybe you just had bad taste now. Who was it? Yannis. Ah, yeah Yannis is smart Sure, I don't know I don't know who we're talking about High pick and I give it away. Yeah, yeah, that was it I was gonna say lottery pick That's what I really meant I feel like I didn't give it away, but oh no, he's was he 13 to 15. He was 14 Yeah, okay, so I thought it said lottery pick. I got it. Yeah, that's really what I meant I just like said they're different word fuck Okay Game number two names are being sent out you guys should have it in your text Okay, once again be so soon go first. Okay reckless Um Tall Got it

1:26:27I'm gonna say goofy can't take him nowhere Wait, that's your date. Yeah, I can't take him nowhere That's your description. Okay, okay Uh Oh Let's pack it up Um, yeah, you could go on that Go Say black I'm a saver It's always Okay To your game You got to make a mistake I can't refute it Three and a half a carry what I boot out of it now wait you can't go broke taking positive games and that's why I appreciate Kareema Okay, um, I'ma say

1:27:31Good passers. Hmm. Good passer. Okay I'm gonna this is a hard one because I don't want to give it away So this is a real easy one to tell the imposter who it is back since I'm gonna say knows a moving company Okay Fire what the fuck I swallowing my senses wrong What the word I said was viral viral oh what I said fireable. I said fire Yeah, viral okay Um, I'll say vibrant Vibrant Uh in the general You

1:28:35Why am I the only one that has to explain I feel like twice a game. I say something. It's like what do you mean? What do you mean by that? Just say to work I'm gonna try to make sure you get back No, it's good game I'm gonna move on once you a little bit I'm gonna say you're worried about me you forgot to say a word I just so I was a monster I'm gonna say haircut nice haircut The channel Okay, I'll say a new haircut Hmm Did someone already say tats? No, tats All right, what's not him Um Dominoes

1:29:36What the fuck What is that say all the word let's go I'm between these two guys right now. I said dominoes. I'm between these two guys I'm ready to vote after you say one more word I'ma say Interesting facial here Oh now I don't know which team these two guys because I was too big Do you feel good I feel good at this point Hmm, I okay, I'm ready to vote. I don't know what the fuck don't even meant, but it's so specific. Maybe it's right I'm gonna vote mo. Oh, I'm voting Donovan Hmm, I'm voting mo I don't I don't know what the fuck that last one meant but maybe I just don't know I said deep cut You do have to know what that is you're gonna have to explain yourself, too. I don't think it's you know home around Your mom or mom One more after rip. Okay, I go more on blue

1:30:37Valley Don't give the player away Um International Hmm International Okay, personally, you better tell me it's not you. It's not me, bro. I need to hear it. It's not me. Don't believe you yet Don't even sign like it's not me Okay, I'ma say Mixed I changed my vote. They're both like so safe. I can't tell What's like okay? I'm gonna say Donovan. I'm gonna sink. He was trying to guess Jimmy Butler when he said Domino's It's Donovan Answer from what really says to me. I don't know. That was so vague what international Now I'm talking about my mom most say no. I know mix. What yeah, it's a little heat through a fucking hell. Are they throwing this off?

1:31:37I think it's one of them Yeah, they're trying to play the game. Yeah, you know what just off for that move right there. I'm voting Donovan Donovan yeah, no, I think it's be Oh, we got a mix vote. Donovan is most votes. Are you the imposter? No, it's not me. Fuck it was mo It was me He was he was out on his Puma tour playing dominoes in the streets. Oh, I don't know that one Oh, I should hold my guts. I'll give away too much, you know who is and now I know exactly who this player is well Do you know because you just said Puma or do you know already knew okay already we all give away too much Tattoo's funny Cali come on now man. This is Lamello ball. He gave the player away Fucking that's too easy. Tatsun Cali come on. It's too easy Damn, I was international He's a Cali he's been international he was in Lithuania true true, you know, yeah

1:32:39He can't be too vague with the answers You can't be let's go. I'm not I'm trying not to give it away And also the dominoes if you knew like that was a very specific thing. Yeah, I just another In a Puma ad that he said on just his like campaign tour. Okay Yes, you I was I went with you take a bad guess whereas he was just saying nonsense Yeah vibrant I guess he is right yeah All right game number three B-Souls take us away oh Um athletic Okay, the mother fuck the national confidence That's landing So he's doing a school spelling beat. I know mom's are you scared? Um, that's what it I'm hungry Uh, we go fade

1:33:39Fade see nothing south of south zone. Yeah, okay, okay. Okay. I'm gonna say Disrespected All right modern Okay, I'm gonna say start Oh Really I've after after my originally Yes, I think modern mix a lot of what do we not we got your buddy? What do you even come up with chances of when it's back real is back in well, I'll say don't fuck up. Thank you me Uh strong I'm gonna say meme Meem yep, he's been meamed out Oh, yeah, yeah

1:34:42Strong willed hilarious you strong and strong willed oh you said strong yeah, well yeah physically and strong will Actually correct. He is both What the fuck you just said hilarious he's hilarious we got him you find him blurs. Yeah, we got him you laughing them all the time We got him you know, maybe you do that it actually is fair. Yeah Where we go? He don't rush, but yeah Um, I will say Um fraud fraud What oh Oh looking at you sideways. What's that are you on run? Hey, maybe he just believes it If he's not I can't be mad so be it everyone's in time for the right opinion I'ma say winner Okay, let's say fucking hater

1:35:44Um I'ma say champion After winner. Yeah, that was real bold of you. Oh, respect your game. Yeah, take the ones we can get him. Okay. Anyway, be so is the imposter As hell You'd ever been more guilty your entire life You're the most guilty you Second the second thing you said the first thing you said I I let this lie Cuz I figured that you were trying out like a new strategy you kind of see if you could be vague But the moment you said start the way you said it Start it with you cannot step foot into an interrogation room You know the players um actually don't athletic winner. I say hater. Yeah, you can get free guess you can wait Jellum Brown what the fuck yes Hey Is that mean I win yes He did it so that's a 30 fuck

1:36:46Wow, what gave it away? Um fraud Do you know why I said that though Why then no I said it more for the hairline When you did say fade I was thinking Get in the round for some reason. Yeah, I also said fade as another way to say black What Why guys get faded NBA too? I had a thought that's what I say outside zone, but I You know I tried to find you think you think fade majority with black hair Okay, there's no poor Rickans Nambia So sure What's one yeah, you gotta fade though Yeah, you fade us at the breeze Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah But I like I'll fade like you're good. Yeah, no All right, there you go congrats We're still here. Let us know what you think about B-Soles and posture game. I will see you on Thursday for the next clip episode Strong