The Unsealed Jeffrey Epstein Grand Jury Documents From Florida (Part 5)

0:00What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we left off with the Jeffrey Epstein Grand Jerry documents from Palm Beach. Jer, where do you live now? Witness I live in redacted. Jer, where? Witness? Redacted? Jer? Did you say that before you lived up in redacted? Witness yes, I moved to redacted in July with my mother. A hovelic interjects your mother, your stepmother and your father sent you up there to get away from the activities down here. Witness? No, I moved with my mom. When I was with my dad, like after this all happened, my mom and dad were arguing and I didn't like my dad anymore. And I just felt like living back with my mom, so then I moved in with my mom. And that's when I went to the family center, like redacted is what it's called. And then after that, my mom had planned on moving to redacted. She's been planning for like two years before any of this happened. And then they finally found the house in redacted.

1:01So we moved and I moved with them. Jer, do you have any idea deep down inside of you that you, what you're doing is wrong? Witness? Yeah, I did. Jer? Oh, do you? Have you witnessed? Oh, I cut off by the Jer. Have you set the goals of to not do it anymore? Witness? Yes, I don't. I haven't talked to any of those people since that day. And you're well aware that what you're doing to your own reputation. The witness. Yes, I do. And this part right here, this exchange is absolutely wild. Bellahovlik should be held accountable. And I mean yesterday, Bellahovlik, you aware that you committed a crime? Witness? Now I am. I didn't know it was a crime when I was doing it like, I don't know. Now I guess it's prostitution or something like that. Let's be very, very clear, okay? A child can't be a prostitute. So this whole entire line of questioning, this whole entire bullshit nonsense that we see from Bellahovlik is nothing but garbage.

2:03And she's doing this to protect Jeffrey Epstein. Does anyone have any doubt? And now, especially go back and think about the NPA document that we read and how much bullshit that was. Oh, yeah, the OIG didn't find anything wrong with any of this. Give me a break. It was all to protect their asset, Jeffrey Epstein. And by the way, he wasn't Mossad, okay? Go and stuff that bullshit, too. The dude was an asset. That means he was a free agent, working for intelligence agencies all over the place, including the Mossad, but he wasn't a Mossad agent. Get that through your skulls. Bellahavlik, any other questions? The juror one more. You said you worked at Redacted. You were 14. You were working at Redacted? Witness? Yeah. In Redacted, that's when they like first let you work when you're 14. You're okay. Now your work. You're living back now with your father in the meantime. The witness. No audible response. Miss Bellahavlik, anybody else in the front row? Second row. Yes, sir. Juror, you kept saying, Jeffrey's assistant, do you know her name?

3:05Witness? No, I know that she has blonde hair, that she was tall and skinny. I don't remember her name. Juror, okay? Bellahavlik. Yes, sir. In the back row. Juror. Yes. Go back to Mr. Epstein's on your own. The witness. No, sir. I didn't. Juror. Did he ever contact you with your cell phone? He never called you. The witness. No, because I got my phone taken away like the juror interrupts her. Did you witness interrupts the juror right back right when I was in trouble? Juror. Did you ever feel that his behavior was a little strange? Witness? That's what we all joked about in the car. Juror, yeah. But did it ever occur to you that he could have hacked you up? Witness? He now think about it and a lot of things could have happened. I thought about it a lot. And a lot, juror, should give it a little further thought. Witness? Different things could have happened. Bellahavlik. Any other questions for Mr. Redacted? All right. Thank you very much. The witness is excused.

4:05Now they're calling back Joseph Rikari as a witness. Miss Dugan. I'll go ahead. And this is for the record. This is Detective Joe Rikari. I don't need to reach where you in. We'll just remind you that you're under oath. Rikari? OK. Dugan? OK. Bellahavlik. Detective Rikari. Let's go back to the investigation before you took over. It's still Detective Pagan. There is mention in her report of trash pulls. What's a trash pull? Answer. A trash pull is when you make arrangements with the supervisor, a sanitation, to have the trash man go on to the property, remove the trash, and place it in the empty well of a trash truck. And you follow him to a different location than you retrieve the bags from the truck. Bellahavlik. How is it that you can take things off someone's property without a search warrant in that way? Is it permissible because it's been discarded? Answer. It's discarded. It's trash. It was in the truck. We just take possession of it from the truck. Bellahavlik. OK. April 1st, 2005. Was there a trash pull at Jeffrey Epstein's house?

5:07Answer. Correct. Bellahavlik. OK. Do you know what was found when they examined the trash from his house? Answer. I have messages with phone numbers written on it, with girl's names, and different messages. Question. Did any of the messages that you've had a chance to look at? Talk about any of the girls you found out through your investigation had gone to Jeffrey Epstein's house? Answer. That's correct. The names and phone numbers were of girls that have gone to the house and left little messages. I have girls for them. You know, for a good time, call me type of thing. Bellahavlik. OK. Was there a message indicating that redacted had an appointment in April? Answer. Yes. Bellahavlik. And what time did redacted have an appointment in April? Answer. 11am. Bellahavlik. OK. Do you know if Detective Pagan had taken voicemails from redacted's phone where redacted was confirmed meeting with redacted answer. Right. Bellahavlik. To go there at 11 answer. There were controlled phone calls between redacted was making phone calls to redacted

6:10for us as part of the investigation. Redacted made the appointment to bring redacted over at 11am for April 1st. Bellahavlik. But redacted never went there? Answer. No. Bellahavlik. OK. Now were there any messages indicating that someone named redacted or someone named redacted has appointments to go to Mr. Epstein's house? Answer. Yeah. There were several mentions of redacted and redacted. Bellahavlik. Were you able to identify who redacted and redacted were? Answer. Yes. I did. I discovered that redacted was actually redacted, redacted, another redacted school student who still attends and redacted was the other girl that was frequenting Epstein's home. Bellahavlik. How old was redacted at that time? Answer. I believe she was 16. Bellahavlik and how low was redacted? Answer. Redacted. Through the investigation I found out she started going to the house when she was 16 or had just turned 16.

7:11Bellahavlik and how long of a time did she continue to go there? Answer till she turned 18. Bellahavlik. Okay. Was there a trash pull on September 21st of 2005? I guess this is after you've taken over the investigation. Answer. Correct. Bellahavlik. Okay. Was there a trash pull that day? Answer. Yes. Bellahavlik. Did you find anything interesting in that trash pull? Answer. I'm trying to get to Bellahavlik maybe page 24, 25 of your report. Page 24. Answer. The date was September. Bellahavlik. September 21st. Answer. Okay. Yes. Bellahavlik. What did you find in the trash pull? Answer. I had notes with the names redacted with her phone number as well as redacted for a good time call redacted and she's cut off he's cut off here by Bellahavlik. Were you able to identify redacted? Answer. Yes. Bellahavlik. Who is redacted? Answer. Redacted. Bellahavlik and what about redacted? Were you able to identify redacted?

8:13Answer. Yes. Through the investigation, I was able to find out that redacted is actually redacted. Bellahavlik. Can you spell redacted? Answer. Redacted. Bellahavlik and how old was she at the time? Answer. 17. Bellahavlik. Okay. Another trash pull occurred on October 3rd, 2005. Answer. Correct. Bellahavlik. Anything interesting found in that trash pull? Answer. What page are you on? Bellahavlik page 26. Page 26 is a report dictated by an officer crawl. Answer. Correct. Bellahavlik. Okay. Answer. That's why. Bellahavlik. In there, he indicates in the trash pull, they located a hard plastic or clear acrylic stick, which was shaped with small ridges. This device is commonly used as a sexual toy, which is inserted into the vagina or anus for stimulation. Was that type of item actually found? Answer. Um, the device was actually found, but later on in the search warrant, it was discovered that

9:14it was actually the handle of the, he's cut off here by Bellahavlik for the silverware. He goes on to answer for forks, for forks and knives. Bellahavlik. Okay. So it wasn't something we would call a vibrator or a dildo. Answer. No. Bellahavlik. Okay. It appeared that way to him, but you were able to confirm later it was not. Answer. Right. Bellahavlik. You were aware from your investigation and talking to Detective Pagan that redacted said she was initiated into going to Jeffrey Epstein's house by someone named redacted answer. Correct. Bellahavlik. Were you ever able to talk to redacted answer? Yes, I did. Bellahavlik. One was that answer. October 3, 2005. Bellahavlik. Where did that take place? Answer. Sergeant Frick and I went to her house out and redacted, knocked on the door and asked her to come back to the station for further questioning reference this investigation. Bellahavlik. How old was she? Redacted. Answer. Redacted. Had just graduated from high school from redacted school.

10:16Bellahavlik. Okay. Was she a minor at the time or an adult? Do you recall? Answer. Well, in the at the time she would have been an adult. Bellahavlik. When and to this she's cut off by Rikari at the time of the interview. Bellahavlik. When you talk to her, okay, did she talk to you that day at her house? Answer. No, she came back with us to the police department for further questioning. Bellahavlik. She was uncomfortable talking at her house. She told you she wanted to do it somewhere else. Answer. No, we just, I wanted to go over the documents that I didn't have with me with her. Bellahavlik. Okay. Answer. At the then he's cut off again by Bellahavlik. So when did she come to the police department? Answer. Bellahavlik. What did Redacted tell you? Answer. During sworn tape statement, she stated that she became in contact with Mr. Jeffrey Epstein when she was 17 when she was approached by a friend with an opportunity to make money. She was taken to Epstein's residence.

11:17She was told that she would have to provide a massage and she'd make 200 bucks. She was taken to the house. She was introduced to his Epstein's assistant by the name of Sarah. Sarah then would escort her upstairs, prepare the room for the massage by putting out the ointments and the different oils. Mr. Epstein came into the room. He demanded she removed her clothing. She did so. She started giving the massage, rubbing his back, his calves, his thighs. He turned onto his back, asked her to rub his chest. As he did so, he tried to touch her, touch her buttocks. He pulled, she pulled away. She said, I'm uncomfortable with you touching me. I'll give you the massage, but I'm uncomfortable with you touching me. It was at which time he said, I know you're uncomfortable. If you bring me girls, I will pay you to bring me the girls. Bella Hovlick, so he didn't make or do anything she was uncomfortable with. Answer right. Bella Hovlick, okay. How did she indicate that she first met anybody that knew Jeffrey Epstein?

12:17Answer, she was approached by one of her friends and redacted by the name of redacted unknown last name. I was never, he's interrupted here by Bella Hovlick, you never? Then he interrupts her, able to identify Bella Hovlick then says determine, then he responds, who redacted was, who actually took her to Epstein's house and introduced her into the household. Bella Hovlick, okay, you were able to determine the approximate date when she met this redacted who took her to Epstein's house. Answer sometime when she turned 17, she told me. Bella Hovlick, okay, so she was 17 when she first went there. Answer, mm-hmm. Bella Hovlick, alright, when he talked to her about bringing other girls to him since she's uncomfortable, what was her response to him? Answer, she agreed to bring other girls to him and he told her the younger, the better. Alright, we're going to wrap up this episode here and in the next episode we're going to pick up where we left off. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.