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from Labor Day to the midterms, who's going to win the election? Well, I think we know who's going to win the election, but who's going to win the, this Senate race, that Senate race, this Republican who's really a Democrat versus the official Democrat. And what everyone is missing is that when you do nothing and you keep the status quo, you lose immediately and automatically. This is the thing. If all you do is take whatever piece of crap Republican that rolled out of these rigged primaries with special interest money, whether they're Senate or gubernatorial congressional, even state legislative and local. And like all we have to do is just elect them over Democrats. So a couple of things. Number one, the Democrats are going to crush it anyway, be precisely because you're nominating corporatists, anti-market, really fiscally and socially liberal Republicans
that are forked-tunged and lie to you in primaries. And number two is even if you did elect them, even if somehow by some miracle, enough of them did win, they're going to give you the same policies. So today we're going to build upon what we've been talking about all week that we have to do something different that you can't just accept this old paradigm of garbage Republicans because but the Democrats when the Republicans often do worse because Democrats at least are held accountable. And when Democrats wind up winning anyway, we're going to have on my friend Rebecca Bexel, the anti-sectionate housing activist in Wyoming who is running for governor in the general election on the Constitution Party ballot line because this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
You have a leftist Republican that's going to be able to accomplish worse than what a Democrat would in a state like Wyoming if he wins. And the Democrat Party is not even a factor anyway. So it's only upside to trying to get her elected and no downside. The official Democrat can't win. It's not a thing. But if you just accept the guy who won the Republican nomination against by the way, the party convention endorsement, then you lose automatically. This is the waterloo of conning politics. Everything with them is but the Democrats. I don't care about outcomes. I don't care about policy. Politics is an end to itself. Vote for Republicans as an end to itself because the alternative is worse. But here's the problem that we're starting to see. In many cases, if you don't do something different, a, the official Democrat will win anyway in some places
and b, in other places, they're literally Democrats. The Democrats are taking over Wyoming, but they're doing it by shooting behind the bushes through the R name so there's nothing you can do about it. But then the people aren't as pissed off about it because it's a Republican doing it. We have a Republican trifecta. That's why I keep focusing on Wyoming. It's officially the most Republican state. So you shouldn't have any of these problems yet we actually have worse problems in Wyoming than even let's say R plus eight, R plus 10 states. This is like R plus 40. Because what happens is precisely because there's no competition and there's no official Democrat party, they just run as Republicans. Now you might be thinking, well, how did they accomplish that? You're right. They can only accomplish that because the Republican establishment itself
is rotten to the core. Because why is it that you don't have this dynamic on the other side where the more Democrat a state gets, the more you have Republicans in all but name only, living through proxy through the Democrat party. I live in Maryland. Maryland is not less hardcore Democrat because there's no functional Republican party. No, it's more because they patrol it. Democrats run a tight ship. So this is a perfect example of how I am using all of their talking points. My friends, my colleagues, even if people are at the place, people else where they're always like, Daniel, I'm with you, the rhinos, the globalist, the blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah, we need the Republicans are horrible. Okay, then it comes time, but then we don't do anything about it. And they're like, well, okay, but we gotta beat the Democrats. All right. So here we have a situation where one of us
and Rebecca actually has some resources. She has name, she's brilliant on policy, especially state and local. Those of you who remember her on my show, she has some money, she has donors. Everything you wanted, if TPUSA would come in and back her, she would literally win. No question about it. If Trump would come and endorse her, she would literally win. Because remember, it wasn't even Trump's candidate who wound up winning the nomination here. This is literally a Democrat, this guy, Barlow, literally a Democrat. Okay, he actually said in the media that he never believes in labels. He's ashamed of the Republican label in an R plus 40 state. What does that tell you? So here, where I was like, why don't people wake up? Why doesn't someone do this? Why not? Well, here you have it. And of course, it's only me that is indulging this.
But this is what I wanna bring out to all my friends. If you nominate a Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski type of Republican in our most Republican states, okay? And there's no risk of the official Democrat winning. And then you have a conservative that's very competent and bright come along to challenge as an independent whatever Constitution party. How could you not back that person? This is what I'm trying to show you. It's not even about but the Democrats, but the Democrats is the emotional excuse. The real truth with my colleagues is they don't give a flying F about outcomes. It's all about a turn, a game. It's a game. And let me with that, let me deviate, go through some free-for-all Friday roundup, quick lightning round of News of the Day
to show you how the status quo is getting us negative and you got to shake things up and then we'll get to our interview with Rebecca about her bid for Wyoming governor. But this is not just about Wyoming governor. This is about an entire strategy, not my only strategy, not my biggest strategy, but one of them that we need to bring to the forefront. So let's start off with federal Trump administration will go into some state stuff. US military is reviewing deadly strike on Iranian wedding. According to the Iranian Red Crescent, yeah, because we trust their work. Five people were killed in 67 wounded in the blast that hit the home where the wedding was happening. And then on Wednesday, Sencom commander, Admiral Brad Cooper ordered an internal review of the strike. They don't even know if they did the strike to begin with if it was from them, but even if it was. So I'm sorry. So Trump puts us at war, you have the economic fallout,
does pin-pric stuff, and then they yell about so the civilians killed are like, yeah, we're gonna invest it, then don't go to war. Okay, this is something we have to lay down right away, lay down this marker. You could disagree on foreign policy, but the one thing that any American should agree about is that once you commit us to war, you need to win at all costs. And if you believe in the righteousness of your cause, then the deaths of so-called civilians throughout the conflict are not on your account. They're on the other person's account. That is what we've always believed in the just rules of warfare. And if you don't believe that, then don't commit to war, period. Similarly, domestically, DOJ arrested and indicted is prosecuting an ICE agent in the whole Minneapolis, Bruhaha,
accusing him, I guess, of shooting someone in the leg and lying about it. Remember, this is the person that Minneapolis demanded, Minnesota demanded that Greg Abbott extradite the ICE agent because he lives in Texas and had to rightfully refuse. And the Trump administration's prosecuting the guy. Now, they claim he lied. Even if he did lie, if you look at the context of what happened, the layers of was he right or wrong? Was it negligence? Should he be dismissed to get to a level of criminal prosecution given what was going on there? Again, Trump, dump or get off the cane. It's similar to the Iran War. Oh, yeah, we're gonna deport, we're gonna, and then the left undermines ICE agents, blocks them, gets violent, and then you prosecute your, then don't do it. See, this is the negative efficacy. I just, I can't handle it. By the way, we're gonna have on probably next week.
There's one of the hero COVID doctors from my state of Maryland who is facing 30 years in prison for the sin of administering monoclonal antibodies during COVID. And we're a year and two-thirds into the Trump administration. The Trump DOJ is continuing the prosecution of him. So, yeah, I don't get that. Well, maybe I kind of do. I wanna zoom out to Congress. So, again, we talked about yesterday how they're running out for recess, doing nothing except passing a CR with liberal riders and no conservative riders, and of course, Trump backed it. I just wanna give you again a sense of a broader picture to the minutiae that I talked about yesterday and budget and policy that should drive anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear and a heart to feel
that if you really believe in what you're disseminating, you would recognize the following observation. Republicans have controlled the House of Representatives. So, that is the body that is closest to the people that you control with the easiest leverage, simple majority, they have controlled that body for 24 of the past 32 years. And what have we gotten from it over that trajectory? Look at the trajectory in this country, socially, demographically, debt, dependency, inflation. What have we gotten for it? Again, you reach a point where but the Democrats is not enough, you gotta offer something more. And here's the circular logic. So, they're basically abolishing their session.
The US House will wind up being in session for four full days from July 24th, when this is before the August recess, until November 8th election. Think about that for a moment. Oh my gosh, Daniel, but we need time to campaign. It's a tough election season. Okay, let's indulge that. You're giving up your power, your time, to do anything on economy and immigration and enshrine any executive order in some of these must pass bills. In this rare trifecta that you have, in order to campaign so you could win and do what? Again, nobody believes they're gonna retain the trifecta. The question is the Senate, which doesn't really even matter as to House, that matters more. There's almost no way they win that. And in fact, increasingly, their signs they're gonna get slaughtered in deep-red state territory. So that's not even a question.
And it's like rather than what you can do with the power now, it's like, oh no, I gotta campaign because the future, the future, the future. So there's one thing if you could say, like when you're in the minority or you have partial power, but you don't use it enough, but I don't know, give us the trifecta. But now you're in the trifecta, like oh no, let's get out of session, doing nothing and enshrine not a single thing. In either of Trump's terms, trifecta is by the way, all executive orders, oh, because we need to win on the next time, when clearly you're gonna lose and you got to utilize what you have now. And in fact, if you don't run on something like defunding sanctuary cities, doing things that are popular, there's nothing to campaign on anyway. And you're gonna lose anyway. This is where this whole but the Democrats becomes circular, where they're choking on their own vomit, their own stupid arguments don't work. They don't care about it. That's what's abundantly clear. Then we have another thing. Oh, so by the way, a couple more items here.
On this red state stuff, do you know Roger Marshall? By the way, the Rhino Senator from Kansas, who beat Hules Camp for the Congressional seat, last decade, who was one of the best conservatives, and then he got in there as a Rhino. Again, we're losing in primaries. Then he's in a general, he's running ads, attacking his Democrat opponent. Now, if you have a sitting incumbent in Kansas, already running attack ads on his Democrat opponent, I have heard from others that polling downright has the Democrat ahead or like even in Kansas. By the way, Kansas, Nebraska, Alaska's gone. This is, see, this is what they do. They have a satellite relationship with Democrats. They give the Democrats what they want. In fact, they get Republicans to support what Democrats couldn't get our guys to support, get them to support primary candidates that Democrats couldn't control.
And then their message anyway is they losing message to the official Democrats and the general and like, Daniel, shut up, focus on nothing more, but getting Susan Collins and Dan Sullivan across the finish line to keep 51 seats. It's like that circular logic. And even if you believe in that, but what you would do is focus on the primaries, change primaries to conventions. And in the states where there's at least no risk of Democrats winning, you would run real conservatives against the Democrats. It's unreal. And you're losing anyway with these corporates Republicans. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. Now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a try at MintMobile.com slash switch.
Up from payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months or $180 for 12 month plan required, $15 per month equivalent taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes me slow and network is busy. See terms. What was another thing that they expended their political capital on? Daniel, oh, don't worry. We're going to have a horrible message get all the liabilities of trifecta control and Trump, but none of the benefits. We're going to be losing like dozens of seats deep into red territory. Oh, but we're going to redistrict to squeeze out an extra five seats as if that's going to matter. Game of inches when it's really a game of miles. Okay. And I warned you guys this. Democrats would retaliate and you're going to choke on your own vomit. You know why? Because everyone's like, oh, we're going to take the red state try affect the legislatures and we're going to squeeze out more districts who redistricting except there's one thing you forgot. Not only will Democrats retaliate in the blue states,
but their redistricting will all be sustained and yours will not because you see because you conink or suck and don't care about what you think. You have a dynamic where we have Republicans controlling these states for generations and yet the courts are literally Democrats either because the Republican governors willingly appoint them or because they have processes that they refuse to use their power to amend and constitutions where it allows the ABA to give them a list of leftists. The point is the Missouri Supreme Court struck down the Republican Missouri map that squeezed out another seat there. At the same time on the same day yesterday, the Maryland Supreme Court upheld the Democrat backed ballot amendment to make it easier for lawmakers to redraw the state's congressional map and can go before the voters in November, which of course given their super majority and a terrible environment for Trump and Republicans,
they'll win that ballot initiative in Maryland. You see what I'm saying? You don't have, name me the Democrat state where you have like state supreme, we know we talk a lot about the federal judiciary but the state and local judges are like right wingers in disguise. You don't have that. But in red states, you have it. This is the control group on this whole like 50-50 game of inches well, Daniel, divided. You can't get everyone so conservative, it's better to get a Republican. But here's the deal. The deeper the red state is where there is no official Democrat party, that's where you choke on your own lie that it's not a matter of the Democrats is that the Republicans are the ultimate false flag and they allow the official Democrats to occupy the party and literally win. So you can't tell me, Daniel, okay, I know you're not happy. I'm not happy either, but you got to support the Republican nominee because that guy's literally a Democrat. And again, I would argue it's even worse than that. It's even worse than that because again,
if you would get in a super majority Republican traffic to state where the voters don't like Democrats, you'd get a Democrat governor, they couldn't do a lot of this stuff. They would be on a very short leash. And if they would, it would be a four-year proposition, they'd be gone. Whereas you get a rhino in there, no matter how liberal he is, until people agree with me and join my movement to change the conventions, you will not knock the guy out in the primary. We saw that with Utah. Spencer, Spencer Cox, most liberal governor. We tried, you can't beat him in a primary. He lost the convention in Utah, two to one, but he went for a primary. So it's an eight-year proposition and then there's no legitimate opposition because the voters think, oh, we have a Republican government, I don't care. And then the Republicans in the legislature of course go along with it.
When you blur the battle lines, that is the worst thing. This is the presentation that nobody else is giving you. So like, hey, you wanna vote for in the 50-50 states, vote for the Republican even though he's a loser. And again, I have what to say in that, but that's fine. But as long as you're maxing out your ability in the states where there's no risk of Democrats, except there is because if you don't follow what I'm doing, you are getting the Democrat in, but in the worst form. If I'm faced with a Democrat shooting at us, but he's completely exposed and we could zap him versus a Democrat shooting behind the GOP Bush, I take the one out in the open. It's strategically much easier to deal with that. But anyway, speaking of negative efficacy, Trump said yesterday, data centers are fabulous.
Okay. Go choke on it. Go choke on it, folks. I remember, see, this is another thing. Everyone's like, we have to kiss Trump's rear end. We can't say anything about him. Can't say anything about JD. We gotta just go along with it, vote for the Republican. But again, what do you, like, there's one thing if Republicans, let's say, disagreed with conservatives on 50 to 70% of issues, but on 30 to 50% they were conservative. And also they had a decent message to beat Democrats. Okay. But the Democrats. Now again, you would still ask what's the point in beating them if you're gonna get in there and do the same or worse, but we gotta beat the Democrats. But what happens if the Republicans are not only liberal and corporates, but because of that, their message is horrible and they're losing any way to the Democrats. So then if your whole thing is not just, okay, we need conservatism, but and we need policy outcomes, but your thing is beat the Democrats. Beat the Democrats. As an end to itself.
Again, I don't agree with that. That's retarded, but okay, let's indulge that. You're not beating them with these candidates. But for you or not, we have a 200-foot arch is gonna be erected as a monument says Doug Burgham. So we got our coins and our arches and our renamed lakes, but we have negative efficacy on land use, status centers, flock, medical freedom, section eight, lots of aspects of immigration to judicial supremacism. This Iran engagement that's getting all the liabilities of hawkishness, but none of the benefits of it, it's sort of like the worst of all. What are we doing here? And this leads me to my next guest and the importance of finally saying no to when Republican leftists work with Democrat leftists as a uniparty to rig Republican primaries in our reddest states.
And then they turn out and say, well, you gotta vote for the GOP nominee. No, because he's not the GOP nominee. He's a Democrat and he know what happens when he have a Democrat. I thought we have an obligation to beat the Democrat. Oh, Daniel, but then the official Democrats gonna win. Okay, to the extent that that is actually even worse, which is debatable, what about the states where there is no functional Democrat party that could win a plurality, much less a majority in a general election? So what I'm proposing is at least in the, I don't have an exact number, but eight to 10 reddest states where the Democrat party is not officially functional, but it is gaining power vicariously through the GOP. Don't we have an obligation to run conservatives in the general election any way we can, whatever ballot line, independent, constitutional, whatever it is.
And don't the people in conning media that claim to wanna change something they're sick of Republicans that are really Democrats, but they're just scared of the Democrats winning, scared of dividing the vote. But in these cases, don't they have an obligation to support our next guest? So folks, I've talked about this before, but Wyoming again is the control group of every theory of Republican politics. Any excuse for not in electing pedal to the metal conservatives to implement pedal to the metal full spectrum conservatism is, it goes by the wayside in a state like Wyoming. Trump carried it by over 40 points each time. What is the excuse yet? Because of these ring primaries where they're all about name, idea, money, Democrat and special interests work with the left wing establishment Republicans to get Democrats to actually win in Republican primaries. They won the legislature and they got the most liberal candidate, this guy, Barlow for governor.
And we're supposed to just sit back and say Daniel, but the Democrats. But here is the waterloo, he is a Democrat. So by doing nothing, you lose immediately. You run a conservative on some sort of independent third party ballot line that is viable. The worst that can happen is nothing. The best that can happen is you actually get a real Republican to win. Oh, Daniel, but what about the Democrat nominee? Again, it's still like Wyoming that's not even a factor. In fact, they only run an official Democrat just to get the 10% threshold to be recognized and maintain their official party status. That's all they're doing there because the Republicans have opened them with, with, you know, with open arms. That's why to me, this show is not just about Wyoming. This is something that we need to consider in the future.
You got to play harder. You're going to change nothing the way it is now. How do you think we got even a little bit of vaccine somewhat changes under this administration? Bobby Kennedy was willing to run third party. Oh my gosh, that's going to divide the vote. Trump can't win. So what? In that case, that would have actually made the difference. And it forced negotiations. So at a minimum, we should force them to the right. But again, especially in these places like the Dakota, like Idaho, like Wyoming, what are we doing with these loser? I would say loser Republicans. They're worse than that. They're literally dead. They would be Democrats in any other state. Often you'll have maybe a flaky candidate, a no name candidate. But with us today, running is Rebecca Bexel. She's been on with us before a local activist in Teeton County, Wyoming, and Jackson. You see the beautiful view there in the background. She's exposed this low income housing scam, colonizing red America
as the griff that's even worse than the Somali daycare. She is the co-founder of Open Range Record and Eyes on Wyoming, the consummate conservative local activists we want. And now she realizes the vacuum that in the red estate, we were given a choice of Democrat and Democrat. Well, don't we have an obligation to beat the Democrat? She is now running on the Constitution Party ballot line. But really is the real Republican. Rebecca for Wyoming.com is the website. And of course, she's with us today from Jackson. Hey, Rebecca, congratulations on your announcement. Thank you for running and thank you for joining us today. Thank you, Daniel. As you know more than anyone, the establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans seemed to always want the same things. And what we had here in Wyoming is we had two conservative Republicans splitting the vote. And once again, the Democrat within the Republican primary squeaked it out. So this, this time, and we've been dealing with that for two decades.
So this time I looked ahead and put my side was unanimously elected to run on the Constitution Party ticket for governor. And I will be squaring off with the two other Democrats on November 3rd. And no, and that's what it is. I mean, you have to understand you're talking to someone from Maryland. I'm trying to envision a scenario where you would have a statewide race here where you would have two Republicans and Democrats would have no voice. That would never happen. And that is an indictment of our entire media movement. Do you believe in what you care about? Okay. So give us some background on this race and who this guy is, who stole the Republican Party nomination and contravention to the convention endorsement, the party endorsement. Okay. So, you know, Eric Barlow has been a legislator for 14 years. So we're not having to do any guessing here. We can clearly look at his voting record and see that he was against
banning sanctuary cities. He was for using state dollars to pay for illegal immigrant benefits. He is not necessarily pro-life. He has a very shaky record on that. He's against Trump policies like coal. He voted in 2020 to put basically carbon sequestration on our coal fire plants, which increased the cost of everyone's electricity for-fold. He is a Democrat by any sense of the word. He voted for men and women's sports. He also is a weak man, and I'm going to give you an example. Eight times over the past six years, he is voted for Medicaid expansion. He actually sponsored legislation to essentially get 55,000 able-bodied adults with no children on the government toll for Medicaid. The eighth time he did that right before he ran for governor, once again, he voted for Medicaid expansion. And then when he saw that he lost the vote, he switched his vote.
And now he's yapping all over the state, saying he's against Medicaid expansion. Well, that's not what he's been doing while in office. Okay, and then the Wyoming Republican Party, and I'm just going to say it. We've had weak leadership. Chairman Brian Miller, if you've ever seen Jeb Bush, low energy, couldn't get anybody excited about anything, that's what just happened in the Wyoming Republican Party. We've imploded, okay? And I don't, they don't need my help in imploding. They're already imploding on their own. But they came out and said that they were endorsing Brent B. And he was a Republican conservative. No one worked harder than him in this election. Well, unfortunately, Brent lost the election. So now they're telling people to vote for Eric Barlow. Eric Barlow, who wouldn't even give a speech for a potential endorsement from the GOP because that's how awkward the crowd was, okay? But now they're saying, well, because he has an R by his name, you're supposedly going to vote for him. And I have been surprised at the Wyoming politicians
that are getting in line because of an R. Their values don't reflect Republican, anything Republican. I believe firmly in all 23 planks of the Wyoming Republican platform. I also believe in life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which is the base of the Constitution Party platform. I am not infiltrating a party. I was invited to join this party. We are now Republicans have another option to have a conservative in the governor's office. The Constitution Party is essentially holding the Republican Party accountable because you had your choice between Democrat and Republican. And frankly, one third, their Republican Party is Democrats. So they've taken over that, like you said earlier, they don't have a strong party. So I am here as the backstab to keep a radical environmentalist out of the governor's office. So I think this environmental, the green energy, grift, and then by the way, he claims to be environmentalist, but am I correct to assume he's not too concerned about data centers,
one, two gigawatts here and there everywhere, taking over ranch and farmland. He's for what ever will get him elected. Daniel, let's be honest, the guy has no backbone. He has no actual values or morals that he's coming after. He is, he imagine a Republican that is so strong Republican that every foaming at the mouth liberal in Teton County, the Democrats are switching over to vote for him. Someone that helped with the Obama donors and campaign is now his spokeswoman for his campaign. This guy is a radical Democrat. We need to call him out. And you know, Wyoming has been chock full of Democrats running as Republicans. If you look at Eli Bebeaut, who was our former speaker of the House, he ran as a Democrat, was elected as a Democrat, and then he wanted a leadership position. Sound simple, right? Just put an R by your name. So he just simply went and registered as a Republican and then won the speaker of the House. We've got to wiseen up and quit being fooled by an R by your name.
Okay, so Rebecca, this, so I need to ask you this question Wyoming centric for you, but really every red state that my listeners are struggling with this, where is this gap in dichotomy coming from? Whereby you would go to a convention of the party activists and they would never look at this guy. Not a single one would vote for him. They couldn't even speak in front of the convention. That's right. And yet they all managed to win in direct primaries. And you get people like Barlow, you get his accolades, and people like that down ballot, legislative positions, local positions. How do they keep winning if broadly you pull the voters? You know, it's again, if by a margin of over 40 points, they voted for Trump. So they clearly want what he has perceived as representing, but then how does this happen? Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Now I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month is back.
So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a try at midmobile.com slash switch. Up from payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months, or $180 for 12 month plan required, $15 per month equivalent, taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes, me slow when network is busy. See terms. You're exactly right, Daniel. This guy, Eric Barlow, does not represent the values of the Republican Party or the people of Wyoming. It's amazing. He got here. Here's what happened. And sometimes it just goes back to weak leadership. We had a guy named Brent B in running, a conservative Republican. We had a Trump endorsed candidate came out, Megan DeGonfielder. Those two got more votes than Eric Barlow together. But because of weak leadership, we, and no one came to them and said, and we're successful in getting one of them to drop out. I saw the writing on the wall months before. I said, this is never going to work. Yeah. I tried hard to get signed.
I'm a mom of four. My husband and I run two businesses. We live in Teton County. I'm a, I moved to Wyoming with $186 in my pocket. I lived in my car. I am living the American dream every day. I have a wonderful life. I never wanted to run for governor. But someone had to come forward and say, I'm going to put myself on the ballot. And if the Republican does it, squeak it out. Here we go in November. And that's exactly what I'm doing. We once said, we eat our own. The Republicans eat our own. The Democrats will follow a pedophile off a cliff. Okay. They will do anything to stick together and hold the party line. While the Republicans tear each other apart. Okay. I am up a real swamp creature. 14 years of doing nothing but messing up Wyoming. The stakes have never been higher. If this guy gets elected, we are never getting our state back. The freebies he'll hand out. You know what I'll say loves? Corporate welfare for the well-connected.
There is a $408 million green energy fund matching governor funds. Where our governor gave $100 million for free to a billion dollar company. $408 million is what is just one of the things I'm up against wanting this race. I'm going to eliminate my own slush fund. I'm not passing out hard earned dollars to the well-connected. I could give you an example after you see it. Oh, wait, wait. Rebecca, this is very important. I want to interject a little bit and then have you continue. Yes. This is very important. This is a profound thought. Because green energy is something that when you have 50-50 political divide like in Washington, it's roughly equally divided. Democrats were associated with the Green New Deal. Every single Republican voted against it. If you speak to any Republican about the dystopian vision of solar and wind raping the landscape of literally what's in your background and Jackson, Wyoming, it's heartbreaking and it's metting. Yet isn't it true? And this is really the core issue in the race
that when you get out of Washington, because then there's to deep red states where there's no but the Democrats competition. So then they take the goodwill from the voters thinking, oh, okay, there's no Democrats. And they are actually every bit as maniacally, zealously in favor of the green grift colonization of our rural America than the Democrats are. Absolutely. We are responsible for electing these people into office. We are responsible for electing people because they have an R that they get to Washington and vote directly against the will of the people. Absolutely. We need to wake up. We need to look at the merits of the person. People, guess what else Daniel? Pete, as you know, people are tired of their Republican party. They're tired of the Democratic Party. They don't get anything done. Yeah. Yep.
If I win as governor, I am going to work for the will of the people. I cannot be bought off. I don't care about money. I'm not motivated by money. I am here. I consider this honestly a sacrifice for the next four years of my life. The GOP's imploded time to move on. No, I mean, Rebecca, you're finding this throughout all of the western prairie states, western Rocky Mountain States. I just mentioned in Kansas, the Republican, I have it on good word that he is down against the Democrat for a Senate and come to Republican in Kansas, which is why he's putting out a package. You have a Democrat turned independent. Now, look, I don't trust these guys, but running in Nebraska, the Republicans in for a fight of his life, even in South Dakota, where it's hard for anyone, but a Republican to win. They're running an independent. They get it. They get it. That rep, it's not just that Republicans are Democrats, but there a message stinks anyway.
And Democrats are starting to beat them pretty deeply into their territory anyway. So the only way to salvage what we claim we want is to stop just sitting back and hoping that some magical are transmogrifies into a dream that we believe in. But actually, you got to work it because by default, if we don't get on the field, they win by acclamation, they win right away. So in your state, I want you to walk us through the numbers very carefully, because you know, I have my view on this, but at the same time, I am sensitive to, it takes other people longer to get to my way of thinking and game theory. So there's this simplistic of our good debate, our good debate. I can't have the D win. So just could you give us the math about your state with, with Barlow as the official GOP nominee, but unofficially a Democrat? Yes. You as the official Constitution nominee, but you're actually a real, you know, abide by all the
Republican Party platform planks. And then there is some sort of Democrat that's officially on the ballot. People might say, well, if you split the vote with Barlow, maybe the Democrat will win. Could you walk us through that? Sure. The Democrat can't win in Wyoming. In this, in the primary on August 18th, the Democrat who no one knows his name, just the D, he won, got 10,000 votes. How Eric Barlow pulled this off is the 10 to 50% of Democrats in Wyoming switched their party affiliation to vote him and to office, okay? Megan DeGonfelder got 38,000 votes. Brett Biann got 30,000 votes. Combined, they got more votes than Eric Barlow, who I believe got 55,000 votes. Now, 25% of Republicans didn't even vote in the primary. If we can get, let's say we go to November 3rd, the Democrats now have to vote for their own party because to maintain major party status, they have to receive 10% of the votes in one of
the top five races. That's not going to happen in any other race, okay? There's no viable, there's no really any Democrat candidates going to beat anybody. But that's going to happen in the governor's race. So they're going to have to go back and vote for Casner, and that's going to pull a lot of votes away from Eric Barlow. Then if I have Megan and Brent's votes, I'm easily going to win this race. There is, I want to be clear, there's no chance that a Democrat is going to be elected no matter what happens unless it's Eric Barlow within the Republican field, okay? So Casner has zero chance of getting elected, but a Democrat named Eric Barlow with an R by his name does have a chance if I don't have the resources to get out his voting record and to expose this man for what he is. I want to tell your readers, all right, your listeners, one more thing. Yeah. 2020, Charlie Kirk stood up in Gillette Wyoming and said, In six years, in 2026, this state will turn blue because the radical blue ideology is going to
infiltrate your Republican party. That is exactly what is happening right now. That is exactly why I'm standing here willing to take on the fight. We have to be diligent. Okay, here, let me give you another example. In Wyoming, we had a guy run for the legislator and actually won. He was a registered Democrat that we know of 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020, 22. Then in February of the of registering to run in May, he switches to the Republican party, runs for office and wins. Do you think his morals change? Do you think his value system change? Or do you think he found an advantage? I'm telling you, win. Because we have uninformed voters. That's it. Uninformed voters. You wouldn't believe the people coming after me, Daniel. Like I said, we eat our own. The slew of just women that come after me. The people pretending to be Republican just to tear down the Republican party.
These are Democrats. But they're coming. So what happens is the Democrats switched the Republican party, help us elect our nominees and then cry party unity. Now we've got to get behind the R after the Democrats just helped pick the nominee. We've got to stand against it. We've got to be smarter than this. So to be very clear with the math here, because this is a math that it might not work out in every red state, but in a lot of them, it actually does to varying degrees. And this is what we need to consider. The Democrat cannot get 34 plus percent of the votes when it pleur out. Zero chance. That is just not going to happen. He's never going to have it fine. Right now, as it stands, if all the voters that said, oh my gosh, I don't want Barlow, the real Republican primary voters who voted either for Brent Pienner or Megan, you put that together. If they would just stand by their own thing, they would have their cake and eat it too. You would get someone that you wanted in the mold of someone you wanted to get the
original nomination, but you'll actually get the general election. And then there's no risk of the Democrat itself fulfilling if you would just vote for the real R over the D in all, but name only. Right. Then then you have it made. It's not like, you know, let me just, you know, exaggerate for a moment. You have Pennsylvania. You have a 50 50 state. Maybe maybe even Ohio, which is R plus 10. And you have a terrible Republican nominee. You run someone on the Constitution independent line who's the real conservative, but then the Democrat has a pretty high floor of getting, you know, 40, 45, 46%. So then you have that risk assuming you're bothered by that. But in this case, and I think again, there's, I would argue to your north, you know, some of those neighboring states, the Prairie states, this is an opportunity that a mold that we need to build, that if they're going to rig and lie their way with special
interests and primaries and get Democrats to take over the Republican Party, you can't then turn around and say, oh, well, you got to support the Republican to beat the Democrat when the Democrats not a factor, but the real Democrat is a factor in the Republican Party. Did I get the math correct? You said it perfectly. And I wanted to tell your listeners one more thing. We've had the worst, you know, I know, Gretchen, which Whitmire is technically the worst governor in America, but we're kind of up there with Governor Gordon, okay? He's a Democrat by any stretch of the imagination. He won the Republican primary with 32% of the vote. Well, guess what? No one ever thought to do a third party candidate that could actually win. So here he was, governor now, for eight years, winning 32% of the Republican primary. Before him, we had Governor Matt Mead. He won the primary with 27%. And so for eight years with 27% of the Republican vote, time to work smarter and when this country
back. This is unbelievable, Rebecca, because again, I am confident that there's about eight to 10 other states where it's like this, that this, this, my concern is that our voters that agree with us on values have been brainwashed by this unity business, not realizing that you're actually unifying against your own unity and your own auspicious outcomes and you're unifying again behind what you want to oppose. That the only way a Democrat can win is with a guy like Barlow, a guy like Gordon. That is the only way they can win in a state like Wyoming. I think this is a brilliant thing. I want to just get to some issues, but first, what exactly happened in this election? I'm going to disturb by it this primary because it wasn't just the typical Wyoming stuff. It appears like the Freedom Caucus got decimated all these liberals won. So what they might say is, hey,
Rebecca, maybe it's not a conservative state. Maybe they want the liberals. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. Now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. Up from payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months or $180 for 12 month plan required, $15 per month equivalent to taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes. Me slow when network is busy. See terms. Um, and I'm going to point your uh, listeners to it's called the leftist takeover of a red state in the daily caller. It came out yesterday. If they want more information, it's an excellent breakdown of exactly what happened here in Wyoming. Daniel, what they're hoping is that you care more about their public and party in an R than you care about your family than you care about your state, than you care about your country. That's what they're hoping for. So what just happened is
we had a total takeover. It came out of nowhere from the jurors, funders groups radical this woman. She's a horrible, horrible. Everything your family stands for. She's on the other side of it. Her name is representative listor and she happens to be just a trust fund lady who preaches to everybody about rich people and she's a Democrat from Teton County. She personally funded races all over the state through an organization called better Wyoming. They target individual legislators typically associated with the freedom caucus or people aligning with the freedom caucus. They outsmarted us with messaging. I'll give you an example. The University of Wyoming is the enrollment is down 12%. They wanted a 4% increase in the budget this year. So the freedom caucus and conservative red Republican legislators said, no, we don't want we don't need extra money when enrollment is down 12%. Here was the message. They're taking money away from your child's education. The people that they they just won the messaging game. They way
over spinnest. Wouldn't you take that deal, Daniel? If you could put $10 million into an election, but you're opening up $408 million in governor's little funds, wouldn't you take that that I would? They're looking at data centers, flock cameras, nuclear waste. They want to store nuclear waste from other states. Of course, it has to get you right. Trans derail all the time 18 wheelers have accidents. They're wanting to take in other states' waste. There is so much corporate interest working against us and sadly some of the Republicans are in on it, Daniel. It's not just getting them out. How come the ranchers don't have a voice? That's the cowboy state. How is it that in the cowboy state, ranchers don't have a voice and every single policy is oriented towards sucking the land away from from producing cattle? Guess who else is a cowboy? Eric Barlow and guess what he testified in Congress directly for the U.S. Congress and said, Wyoming needs to remove our dependence on fossil fuels and move to a renewable model. That is the guy
that's a rancher. You know why? Because there's too much money with these wind and solar projects on these ranches. Matching finds the government subsidizes it. So Eric Barlow is all in, all renewable. That's the corporate welfare for his self and others. You're saying that for every rancher that we hear these stories about where they will turn down, you know, multi-million dollar offers not to give away their legacy, their heritage. Others are tantalized by this unnatural anti-market government venture socialist driven monopoly that has willed into existence, economies and industries that a free market would never bear forth. And then obviously, I'm assuming you're going to make a big part of this, the colonization of Wyoming, in addition to these uses, but also with this section eight stuff and quality of life issues as well. That's right. You know, we're trying to pass proposition one, which is a 50%
property tax reduction. I know tons of seniors in Teton County that have literally been priced out of their home with an unrealized gain, which is their property tax. Who I'm up against now is the Wyoming Education Association, the County Commissioners Association, the Community College Association. Guess what, Daniel? Did you know that Wyoming's County Commission Association is against banning sanctuary cities? Now, the people that live here aren't against it, but somehow the County Commissioners Association, it's all the people with their fingers in the pots, even Republicans, quote unquote, Republicans love free stuff. Just look at Eric Barlow. And this is what people need to understand with these one-party states. It actually goes around in a circle and it's worse like the R plus 40s are worse than the R plus eights or something, because then the Democrats just collapse into the Republican party. Also, then they get to control the levers of power. So, you know, they're all into that rather than ideology. And this is how you
have a scenario. This is not even like, okay, they don't measure up to Daniel and Rebecca's level of conservatism. No, these are people that are downright for the training agenda for, you know, the green grift. And as you mentioned, you know, obviously they're not even pro-life. They're not even again, sanctuary cities. I'm talking about the bedrock universal 80-20 issues that even Democrats struggle with, you know, when they bring it up as a vote in Congress. So this is a must-do race. This is this is what I'm telling all you guys. All these, you know, we could debate, is it worth a rhino versus a Democrat in one of these like, you know, other states? And that's for the GOP establishment to deal with. We as conservatives have limited time resources and money. We need to elect our own. And the beauty is in this case, it's all risk, all return and no risk, all upside, zero downside. The only downside is doing nothing. You get a Democrat automatically. So if what
an what animates me is Micah 6, 8. Okay, doing what's right. But if what animates you is our, our has to beat the D. Well, our has to beat the D here. You're a lifelong Republican activists. Barlow is a Democrat and, you know, it's straight up. And, you know, there's no downside. So again, Rebecca for Wyoming.com, you got two months folks donate generously. I don't care if you live in Wyoming. This is a national race on so many levels on the takeover of red state level, on the green grift level, on the destruction of rural America level, but also is the paradigm mover that we need to open up another avenue when you have increasingly Democrats taking over Republican parties and similarly situated states and political environments. We got to open up this dynamic where we get another bite at the apple to actually get a conservative in a state
that should have two right arms, but instead has two left arms. I'll give you the last word, Rebecca. I just want to thank you, Daniel. I want to thank you for always having the courage to speak the truth. This is kind of crazy to some people. We're asking you to vote for a C who is an R instead of an R who is a D, okay? But Daniel, I sincerely thank you for having the courage to stand up to the the establishment, the entitlement, the corporate interests, all the things that are working against us here in America. Thank you. Amen, Rebecca. God bless you. Give them hell and we'll have you back soon. Take care. Again, that was Rebecca. Back still a couple of things here. First of all, she is brilliant on state and local budgeting policies grant programs. This is everything you would want. She also does have the ability to raise money, I think putting some of her own money.
They started with nothing, but she and her husband are business owners. This is everything you ever wanted, everything, every issue that the dynamic, if you would write a conservative heroic fairytale, this is it. And yet, turning point action, like she mentioned, Charlie Kirk warned about Wyoming. Where are you? Now, I got to say one other thing. My main thing is to unite, unify going forward. I just got to say this is another example. Trump endorsed Dagenfelder. Now, you might say, well, she got a little bit more than Brent BN. So maybe it should have been BN dropping out. Yeah, but BN is the one who got the party endorsement. And if you look at Dagenfelder versus BN who spent who just had $200,000 plus Dagenfelder at Trump's endorsement, the amount of votes that BN got per dollar is much greater. Trump by upending the party endorsement and him coming in, reshifted it. And that's another example of stupidity there that shouldn't happen.
But again, like I would say this is Trump's waterloo too. Because remember, this is not just okay, Daniel's version of conservatism versus the established. I mean, this guy is literally a leftist. By the way, he's against Trump too. So there's no reason that Trump shouldn't endorse Rebecca either, but you know, whatever we'll see what happens. Anyway, please, please, anyone who has resources. This is what I mean by saying, look, I could respect people. Let's say, look, Daniel, I don't know judicial nominees. This and that. I want to make sure any Republican, I don't care who it is. We have 51 seats in the Senate. Okay. So I'm going to hold my nose, Susan Collins, Dan Sullivan, Roger Marshall, all these jerks, all these guys. Okay. I can respect that if you're joining me with these sorts of endeavors that belive this false choice. Because what I'm trying to show you is there's many theaters. First of all, getting involved in the primates to begin with, getting involved
in the state conventions and changing to conventions, getting involved in the issues, getting involved in the state legislative issues. And then yes, there is another avenue that in at least the reddest of the red states, you could actually reject fake GOP nominees by running third party without the risk of the official Democrat winning. I have my own views on it's actually worse to have the unofficial Democrat than the official one for a number of strategic reasons. But even if you don't agree with me on that, we need to build this model at least where we could unify behind the proposition of all upside, no downside. Anyway, we're at a time. Hope you guys have a terrific family oriented extended weekend. Labor day doesn't mean much to me, but you know what? Any day to spend more with family is great. So see you back here at the same time. Same place next Tuesday. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. Now I was looking for fun ways to tell you that
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