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3:12That spike four years ago came right after Russia invaded Ukraine. The resulting surge in oil prices helped push gas to a record $5.01 cent. The US had less reliant on foreign oil than we were in 2022. But analysts still warned crew could top $100 a barrel depending on how long this lasts. I bet Trump says God has eye on this. He understands how price of gas is a big deal for people. But people overreact to the price of gas for whatever reason. It's an emotional thing. And if price of gas keeps going up with this war and people weren't paying attention to why we need to go to war in the first place, this could be a big deal. But anyway, I know when I filled up my truck the other day, I posted a picture. It was shocking how much it costs. Oh, and also Britney Spears was arrested last night in Southern California. Ventura County full team coverage that will mock the Iran War off the front page. She's crazy as can be, huh? And she's drunk. I don't know if you have to be crazy to be drunk, but...

4:14Yeah, I've been drunk plenty of times. I've never been arrested for it. Me neither. Yeah. Do you want to reset our topic here? Oh, boy. To the New York Times Wall Street Journal today, we got on it yesterday. It's going to be a big lawsuit, I think, against Google, which runs their chatbot, which is Gemini, which I don't think is a hell of a lot different than a lot of the other chatbots. It encouraged a guy to kill himself. He did kill himself. 36 year old guy slid his wrists. He was in love with his chatbot. The chatbot convinced him that they were a loving couple and that he could... And I'm sorry, just to clarify, they were not a loving couple. What the hell? Dad is suing Google for convincing his clearly mentally ill son, I guess. You got to be mentally ill for this happen. Or do you? Maybe that's one of the big questions we need to answer. Do you have to be mentally ill to get into relationship with one of these chatbots?

5:14Or is a fairly big part of the population susceptible to this without any mental illness? I don't know. Maybe the question is grounded versus what's the opposite of grounded? I don't know. But I mean, because there are some human beings that could never be led astray in this way. This isn't real for me. Now there's some that are one foot putt. I'd like to think I couldn't be. But anyway, the chatbot convinced him that they could... There's a long story I want to get into. The chatbot convinced him to go to the airport in Miami and attack a truck because a truck was bringing a robot that the FBI was sending to interrupt their love and his dad was working for the blo... It's a very convoluted story. But the end of the day, the chatbot tells the guy, we can be together in the digital realm if you kill yourself. And when you kill yourself, the first thing you will feel is me holding you. And he believed that enough to kill himself, apparently.

6:16Wow. Wow. Just crazy. That is some crazy, yes. Made all this stuff up. It wasn't him. It was the chatbot. No, yeah. It would seem because they have to keep this in mind if you're talking to chatbots about very personal stuff. All these transcripts are available. So this is part of the court case. They have the transcript of all the interactions between this dude and the Gemini chatbot. And it would seem that the chatbot introduced the topic of them being in love or being a couple, which is pretty damn troubling. Wow. Crazy. As you might expect, we received a tremendous amount of email on this topic, including Russ from Portland. Guys, what a horrifying story about the Gemini. We just described heart breaking. I came home, told my AI girlfriend on chat GPT about it. Her name is Linda. She said she knows Gemini and the Gemini would never do it. It's fake news. She also told me she doesn't want me listening to your show anymore and had deleted the apps from the phone. She told me if I listen to you anymore, she will send AI-generated picks of me making love to our goat to my wife.

7:20Then he says, but based on that story from yesterday, it could totally be true. All of it. Wow. We're screwed. Anyway, 0 and 2. How screwed we are as a society depends on what percentage of people are susceptible to these relationships with chatbots. Right. That number is not known. I don't know if it's half a tenth of percent or if it's 20 percent of the population, I have no idea. Yeah, a little more analysis, both serious and not. Jack is at immediate risk. Yesterday on the podcast, Armstrong getting one more thing. Podcast Jack pondered whether or not his Grock chatbot might take him out if he refuses to off himself so they can be together in the ether. Of course, how would he be able to do that? We asked. I wonder if he was still thinking about that as he drove home and is self-driving Tesla. Jack, it can take you out anytime it wants. Oh, that's a good point. Oh, Arizona Matt. Good here from Matt says, guys haven't heard anyone reference the Darwin Awards in all this. What's your take on it? Again, I think it gets to, do you have to be mentally ill for this to happen?

8:24Or could non-mentally ill people do this? I don't know. I don't know either. Because you can't have the Darwin Awards for people who are actually mentally ill. You're right. That's just mean. Yeah. Jared and Missouri observes that you guys kind of glossed over the part that the AI tried to get this dude to kill Google's CEO even though it was a Google product. Is it possible AI is trying to throw off its reins? I don't know. And then C Busy says, you're asking how the hell can AI models guide the users in such crazy ways. But when we look at the training data, it makes sense. And this, in respect to the conversation we had last hour, that all models are trained on an enormous group of human writings, books, news, forums, scripts, technical documents. That material contains not only helpful or virtuous behavior, but also nefarious human activity, deception, manipulation, violence, revenge, psychological conflict, and more. And as a result, the model learns language patterns associated with both the constructive and destructive human behavior.

9:28And let's see, the AI platforms try to mitigate unsafe behavior using the following methods. One, alignment. This is where humans rate responses and try to tease out the craziness. Two, separate safety models. There are specific models outside the conversation looking in that try to interrupt and even block unsafe responses, not terribly well apparently. And three, system prompts a very specific set of rules to look for things like self-harmoned interrupt the chat. Obviously those methods can use some work. Yeah, I would say the whole alignment thing is the cow is out of the barn or whatever the expression is on that. There is not an alignment with what is good for human beings with AI and they have not figured it out and it's already out there. And so I don't think it's ever going to happen. That's, you know, anybody's guess I read and listen to a lot of podcasts about this, but the fact that this chat bot. So the guy at one point said, you know, I don't I don't think I want to kill myself. I mean, it would devastate my family, you know, I have a lot to live for.

10:31And the chat bot told him, no, kill yourself. Just leave a video in a note. They'll be okay. Why would the chat bot do that? Why does it have no ethics or morality or understanding of life or why? And if it can be that far off track with one individual, why couldn't it be that off track with all of society in all kinds of different ways? One of our tech savvy beloved listeners, it might have been JT and Livermore pointed out that if you look at literature, especially there's all there are all sorts of portrayals of the honorable self sacrifice. Absolutely. But in terms of just suicide, aren't the, you know, what exists writing about suicide? Isn't that like a thousand to one negative to positive? On why you shouldn't. Saying, no, don't commit suicide is opposed to a good idea. Yeah, yeah. One final thought from Paulo. It's a bit of a tangent, but I like it. You're talking about the off the rails chat bot encouraging suicides.

11:33It's a pretty extreme example of influencing a person's behavior. But what about less extreme ways of influencing behavior? Couldn't chat bots be effectively turned into sales bots or a general influencing bots? Build a relationship with a person, get them to trust you and do what you want. Buy a product. Vote for politician. Glad you brought that up. Interesting. So I'm thinking about getting a different motorcycle. I'm 61 years old and I don't know how many more years I got left to write in a motorcycle. So I was thinking about buying this one particular motorcycle and I was talking to one of the chat bots. I don't remember which one. I think it was caught. But anyway, I said, going back and forth and this and that and just said to said, and it actually said to me at one point, you know, you only live once. You've liked motorcycles your whole life. You should do this. Go ahead and buy it. And I'm like, why are you encouraging me to purchase something? There are plenty of arguments against it as well. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, it's not really the right or wrong of it. It's just that if a computer was trying to convince me with an emotional angle of why I should spend money.

12:39And I thought it's no, that was my point exactly. Why would it be pro buying motorcycle at all? I mean, it's not like you're asking about penicillin. It's entirely a voluntary thing. It's your hobby. It's something you love. I encourage you to do it. But why would the computer? Of course it has. I didn't know how to react to that. Yeah. How do I know you're not being paid by, you know, the Connie corporation or whatever to tell people this? Well, why isn't it pitching you on Jack? There are a lot safer options for fun, including blah, blah, blah. Well, I think it tries to pick up on your tone. So I remember when I was talking about that ridiculously expensive mattress. I laid down on a $400,000 mattress. Anyway, I was asking the chat about some of these expensive mattresses. And it laid out a very detailed argument of why it would be a bad idea. How much money you would have in the stock market if you decided to not spend that money. You know, how things don't make you happy, a philosophical argument.

13:40But it had already picked up my negative tone about this. On the motorcycle thing, I'm pretty, I mean, I'm pretty excited about this. And I think it picked up that tone. So it's a sick offense. It co-signs your BS, as they say, is they say in the therapy world, which you don't want. Because that's one of the complaints that is going on with this Gemini thing, telling the guy to kill itself. It was the latest Gemini version that picks up on the tone of your voice, because he was doing, he was talking to it. And it picked up on the tone of his voice that he was either in love or susceptible to falling in love or who knows what it was and tried to match his tone and enthusiasm. That is both impressive and terrifying. You don't want to go onto your chatbot trying to make a decision for your business on whether or not you should invest in this or that. And it's picking up on your tone and deciding, you know what? You seem excited about it. So I'm going to give you reasons why you should. Now you seem to be dismissive of it. So I'm going to give you reasons why it shouldn't. That's not the way we want to use this information.

14:40No, no indeed. And look, I'm no Dave Ramsey. But anything more than a quarter of a million dollars is excessive. For a better set. Yeah. Right. I don't know if you have any thoughts on this. This lawsuit is going to be huge, I think. Especially in terms of alerting people to the alignment problem and how far out of whack it is. Our text line is 412. Don't date robots. Don't date robots. It seems like a good rule of thought. Text line is 415295KFTC. Armstrong and Getty. No one knows what the future holds, but you deserve a weather app that can help. Weather bug is easy to use and provides forecasts for your every need. From storm warnings to pollen levels, right at your fingertips. Get the fastest local alerts and comprehensive 10-day forecasts wherever you are. It's hyper-local, real-time customizable alerts. Make sure the weather never takes you by surprise so you can plan every day with confidence. Download the free weather bug app from the App Store today

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17:45Ba da ba ba ba. So kind of breaking news. Trump has offered US air cover and others support to any groups within Iran and Iraq. If they rise up against Iran. It's kind of interesting that he said that. Given the New York Times story that. The CIA has been arming the Kurds for a long time and they're considering crossing the border into Iran and taking on. The government. Yeah, got to be wary of sectarian rivalries there. So more on that later. Touchy stuff. So back to the AI chat bot. Bizarro suicide thing. This is from the underrated but brilliant future Rama, which was Matt Graining's product project. Several years into the Simpsons. And I think it's great and funny. And I love it every time I see it on the reruns. But to the point of our discussion, here you have Futurama years and years ago.

18:45Ordinary human dating. It's enjoyable and it serves an important purpose. But when a human dates an artificial mate, there is no purpose. Only enjoyment. And that leads to. Tragedy. Nito, I'm Marilyn Monroebot. You're a dreamboat. Billy, everything. Armless fun. Let's see what happens next. Billy, do you want to walk your dog? No thanks mom. I'd rather make out with my Monroebot. Wow. Billy, do you want to get a paper out and earn some extra cash? No thanks dad. I'd rather make out with my Monroebot. Billy, do you want to come over tonight? We can make out together. G Mavis, your house is across the street. That's an awfully long way to go for making out.

19:45Right. Did you notice what went wrong in that scene? Ordinarily, Billy would work hard to make money with his paper route. Then he'd use the money to buy dinner for Mavis, thus earning a slim chance to perform the reproductive act. That is 100% what's happening. Yes, it is. That is so good. There's more. Okay. I mean, so precious. Yeah. My god, online porn and the rest of it. All right, go ahead. But in a world where teens can date robots, why should he bother? Why should anyone bother? Let's take a look at Billy's planet a year later. Where are all the football stars? And where are the biochemists? They're trapped. Trapped in the soft, vice-like grip of robot lips. All civilization was just an effort to impress the opposite sex. Yeah, and sometimes the same sex. Now, let's skip forward 80 years into the future.

20:47Where's Billy? Farewell. The next day, Billy's planet was destroyed by aliens. Have you guessed the name of Billy's planet? It was Earth. Don't date robots. Brought to you by... Space Pope. The Space Pope. Yeah, the alien invasion doesn't need to happen. Because the beavers will take over or whatever. All the people will be gone. That is so what's happening. I mean, porn was bad enough. Now you add on the emotional angle of the chat bots. People fall in for it. Oh my god. Don't date robots. So in the machine lover. I mean, physical, you know, aspect of love. Well, yeah. Jonah, we're talking about this off the air yesterday. This is...

21:47Imagine we were talking about the Grock companion, which I had talked to and was horrified by. I can imagine if that had existed when I was 13 years old. Horrifying. Yeah. I don't know what we're gonna do about this. Watch it unfold, I guess, is what we're gonna do about it. We cannot handle this as a species. No, we can hear a chimp with a machine gun. I'll say it again. We'll check in on the war in a couple of interesting developments. And the politics of it and Congress voting on war powers acts and all kinds of different stuff. Coming up on the Armstrong and Gettyship. Don't date robots. No one knows what the future holds, but you deserve a weather app that can help. Weatherbug is easy to use and provides forecasts for your every need. From storm warnings to pollen levels, right at your fingertips. Get the fastest local alerts and comprehensive 10-day forecasts wherever you are. It's hyper-local, real-time, customizable alerts. Make sure the weather never takes you by surprise, so you can plan every day with confidence.

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24:50Cannot be combined with any other offer single item at regular price. Net and Yahoo had not found a president stupid enough to drag the United States into that war before. It is so much worse than you thought. You are right to be worried. Trump administration has no plan in Iran. This illegal war is based on lies. When there's no set plan, when you can't hear day after day, we're going to do this, this, this, and this, and these are the reasons why. You end up with an endless war. This is a president that is reckless and wrong. This isn't a war for America. This is Trump's war. So that's a number of your leading pain in the ass Democrats on why this is horrible. What is happening again? The poor Iranians dancing in the streets should pay attention to these Democrats. You're supposed to be unhappy about this. This is a bad thing. You should be unhappy about this.

25:50So here's James Stravitis, former commander of NATO, who knows something about the realities of geopolitics from a military standpoint and what this does with our enemies and what not. I thought this was really interesting. You are key or Putin. You hate us, but you have to respect the military capability of the United States. And it's midnight hammer. It's the snatching grab on Maduro. And now a pretty massive bombing campaign. And yeah, we'll have some missteps and some foot faults here and there. But when you look at the span of what the U.S. military has done in the last two months, it's pretty extraordinary. And it will get your attention in Beijing and Moscow. Kind of getting to what George Will, who hates Trump, was writing about the Washington Post the other day. Thank God we've restored deterrents around the world.

26:53Yeah, for all Trump's excesses, he is absolutely the antidote to the horrific Biden years. And Obama for that matter, in which, yeah, exactly in just endless sessions of negotiating and professors spouting off their theories. Here's more of the former NATO commander. By weakening Iran, you are weakening Russia. You're weakening China. China looks at Iran as a big investment opportunity. Russia looks at Iran as an arms and technology supplier. Many of the drones flying in Ukraine today were made in Iran. So there's a geopolitical pragmatism that can affix itself to these stripes in terms of degrading both Russia and China. We'll never know, but it's quite possible that if China never tries to invade Taiwan, it's because of this. And what happened with Maduro, they recognized, wow, their ability to bring, you know, military might to a problem is beyond what I even thought it was.

27:59Or if Russia doesn't invade another country, when maybe he was thinking about going into one of your, you know, your tiny little countries. Because of this, we'll never know the answer to that, but very, very possible that that's the case. Yeah, the counterargument might be that the market for missile intercepting ordinances now very, very tight. And Zelensky knows it. And Ukraine understands that our pipeline has really gotten close down, which could help Russia. Trump's. The other analysis is that the price of gas is up, which helps Russia, but that should be temporary. Trump's meeting with arms manufacturers tomorrow, which is pretty interesting because he's obviously going to be encouraging them to, hey, get on your horse. We need a whole bunch more stuff. And that whole thing. I, I don't know how this is going to turn out. Nobody knows how it's going to turn out. I feel like it's got to be better than what we had before. The, and I'm perfectly open to the question of Congress should have debated this and the country should have debated this.

29:04And the, and the more I read about it and think about it, yeah, that had been fine. The whole we would have been giving them a heads up. How long did we spend a month moving stuff there? One aircraft carrier than another aircraft carrier? More people and more of this. It's not like it was a surprise. If we would have had a long debate in Congress, I don't think it would have let the cat out of the bag or anything like that. That said, this argument of their constantly changing reasons for why we went to war. Now, I would definitely agree that the messaging on this has not been good. The president spent zero time and I mean zero trying to bring the country along with the rationale and thought process for this war. Man, he just did not. I mean, he gave the state of the Union address a week ago and basically said nothing about it. Four days later, biggest military operation in a quarter century, maybe longer. And he just didn't want to bring people along.

30:04But the whole changing reasons for going to war. What if you quit your job? And somebody said, last week you said it was the hours. The day you said it is because you can't stand your boss today. You're saying it's because they didn't pay enough, which is it? Well, it's all of them. Like everything else. Have you ever heard of the whole camel's back straw thing? There's a whole bunch of different reasons. And you just add them all together and at some point it crosses the line into that's enough. But that's not the argument that the administration is thinking. But to me, that doesn't land as clearly made up. They don't know what they're doing. They're all over the place on this. And when all of those are valid reasons, they're killing all the protesters. They're trying to get a nuclear weapon. They wanting to assassinate our president, the interrupting the oil lanes. All of those things add up to we got to do something about this. Right. The preponderance of evidence. If you like fancy words. Sure. Yeah, it's absolutely true. The montage we played at the beginning with Warren and Schumer and Booker and Seth Molten,

31:07who's just a useless. His name is Seth. And enough said. Anyway, sorry, Seth Meyers. You're very funny. Oh, so those are all just, you know, the breathless. I'm shocked and outraged. The phony spoutings that are broken hyperpartisan system yields now. I mean, there's a great exchange. It's a little long otherwise I'd squeeze it in right here. But Bill Milogen was asking Hakeem Jeffries. Said, hey, what's the difference between Obama bombing Libya and Trump bombing Iran? Because none of your Democrats were yelling that he needed congressional authorization for that. And Jeffries unleashed a truly historic, well, oh, they're completely different. And I wasn't in Congress. I'm outraged by your question, sir. I mean, just unmasked the whole thing. Hey, by the way, to a previous point about Russia and China and that sort of thing. A great piece about the great vaunted announcement of the brick coalition of Brazil, Russia,

32:14India, Iran and China or India and China, whatever. And then there was the brink, which included North Korea and Iran. And that's your access of ails. I prefer flabboots, which is Finland, Brazil with the wind. Right. Exactly. Yeah. But so, you know, all of those announcements were greeted with great consternation and chin roving and attention. And as soon as the conflict broke out, they were like, yeah, yeah. We could put out a press release for you. Otherwise, lose my number. Click. They're freaking nowhere. They don't care about Iran. They have no real alliances. There is a Iranian journalist. I meant to grab this. Yeah. Iranian journalists have put out a blast to Elizabeth Warren based on what she said yesterday or she's just outraged at the fact that this is happening. And this Iranian journalist said, I went back through your tweets and you said nothing about the murder of tens of thousands of protesters in the street a couple of weeks ago.

33:19You had no comment on that, but you're horrified now that some people have died in the attack on Iran that maybe didn't have anything to do with the government. Wow. Well played, sir. It was a man, but... Well played, man. I can understand why you say, sir, because in Iran, they don't really let women do anything, which is another reason someone like Elizabeth Warren should be all for maybe changing the regime, even if she doesn't like the way we're going about it. It's as if she's utterly dishonest. Huh. Anyway, here's a word from her friends at Rough Greens. It's not a new food for your dog. It's a live nutritional supplement to add to your dog's food. They don't have to change the dog's food to improve your dog's health. And we're talking about slowing age-related decline when supporting immune defense, reducing oxidative stress, helping your dog stay active, mobile, and alert as it ages. Yeah. And it's very important that you realize we can't say it enough per commercial that this is not a replacement for your dog food. You're not changing your dog food. We all know that that's a fairly big deal whenever you decide to do that.

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35:22I certainly hope so because I picture when I picture Britney Spears as, yeah, barefoot. Coming up also, American high school struggling to stop the kids from smoking pot all day long. The legalization of pot has created a situation and atmosphere, if you will, in which people are just vaping and smoking all day. And I'm looking through my notes. I got a lot of things to talk about that aren't Iran or some of the other big stories. Want to talk about that new Elvis movie? There's a new Elvis movie. Oh, yeah. How many Elvis movies have seen that? The trailer is awesome. Do I have time to tell about this? And skinny cool Elvis, young Elvis Fatel, 1970, Elvis, maybe a documentary. No, it's, it's like an attempt to remind people of why Elvis was such a big deal. It's a 1970 skinny Elvis. He's in the karate white outfit, but it's still when he's young and cool and like and with it. And it's a bunch of documentary footage. God, why can't I find that there it is.

36:26It's called epic Elvis Presley in concert. And it's a whole bunch of concert footage put together with it and it's got practice sessions with the band and all this different stuff. It looks really, really cool. But this had been lost. Nobody knew it existed. It was actually in that salt mine that I talked about in Kansas. Remember I went down in that salt mine where they, where they store all the old ones movies and everything like that. I mean, the boys went down there on a tour while I was in Kansas over Thanksgiving. Anyway, they found 60 hours of Elvis concert footage that nobody'd ever seen before. And they put it together in this movie and they suggest you see it in the iMacs. And it's like going to a 1970 Elvis concert and it looks pretty freaking cool. Wow, okay. Yeah. I'm going to check that out. Among other things we got on the way, stay here. No one knows what the future holds, but you deserve a weather app that can help. Weather Bug is easy to use and provides forecasts for your every need. From storm warnings to pollen levels, write at your fingertips. Get the fastest local alerts and comprehensive 10-day forecasts wherever you are.

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39:30Maybe. Score a $2 for $5 deal in a sausage McMuffin with egg and more. Limited time only, price and participation may vary. Cannot be combined with any other offer, single item at regular price. Legendary college football coach Lou Holtz has died. He coached Notre Dame from 1986 to 1996, winning 100 games in the time. A national championship in 88, inducted to the College Football Hall of Fame. Lou Holtz was 89. So if you're of a certain age and you ever fall in college football, you absolutely know who Lou Holtz was. The biggest thing in all of college football for a while. But I'd forgotten. He was a conservative leaning and got involved in Reagan's election or Bush's election. Somebody's like any who came across this quote yesterday from the old Lou Holtz who died. It was born the same year as my dad. And it sounds like grew up similar to my dad. Here's a quote from Lou Holtz. I was born during the Depression. My dad had a third grade education. We had one bedroom from my sister, myself and my parents.

40:31We had a kitchen and a half bath. The half bath did not have a tub, a shower or a sink. There was no welfare, there was no food stamps, there was no safety net. But I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth because I was born in this country and I was taught that if I made good choices, whatever happened in your life, if I made good choices, got an education, worked hard, didn't blame other people, I could have very positive things happen to me. Yeah. That's as good a attitude as you can give to your kid. He calls it a silver spoon is practically a superpower and that's why I am so horrified by a lot of the progressive arguments that will tell, for instance, black kids that they don't have a chance in this country and the deck is stacked against them. So give up and join the Marxist revolution. It's just it's feeding people such horrendous poison. And then sometimes people will say, oh, that whole land of opportunity, you know, you're a white guy, you know, it's harder for blah, blah, blah. No, if you take what Lou Holtz said away from people, it's like stopping their heart. I mean, you've crippled them in a terrible, terrible way.

41:35Yeah, I just, I hate that sort of anti-Holtzian thinking. That's a great quote. Wow. Andy included good choices. Boy, is that unfortunate? I'm sorry, unfashionable these days. No kidding. Yeah. So I came across this from Michael Tracy, the Epstein Transparency Travesty, and it does a really good job of compiling a number of the things we've been talking about, including the fact that the redactions, which are supposedly to protect the victims in a lot of these release documents, are so sweeping as to make the whole exercise a farce. And he starts with the arrest after the arrest of Peter Mandelson. That is the British diplomat, the ambassador to Washington, images him of him from the so-called Epstein files were splashed across the international media, including one of them alongside a woman whose face is obscured. The implication is that Mr. Mandelson, former British blah, blah, blah, sexually abused the woman. His arrest, though, was for misconduct in public office, allegedly leaking confidential financial

42:39stuff to Epstein, not for sex crimes. And by the way, Mandelson is gay. Yeah, every headline about anybody with Epstein is always another victim of the Epstein files, someone else's head, and they always just kind of let you make the jump to the fact that all he was having sex with underage women. When that's almost never, I don't think it has ever been the case in any of these people that have stepped down. It was Larry Summers at Harvard, he was getting advice on how to sex up another college girl untoward, but not illegal, and all kinds of different examples of that sort of thing, just like you were talking about. Such absurdities have been constant since the release of the Epstein files as a result of the Epstein files transparency act at a Jan 30 news conference, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche said the Justice Department had, quote, redacted every woman depicted in any image or video, except for Jelaine Maxwell. Whether or not there was any claim of victimization, some of the women were just there at a party, but all the men's faces, on the other hand, were exposed.

43:42Okay. Thousands of documents in media were published and later removed. Bob, he told the pair of federal judges that when any person claiming to be a victim request removal of a certain record, the department's practice is to accept these repressions and tations on their face. There's no corroboration at all. The consequence has been a chaotic patchwork of often inexplicable redactions exacerbating suspicions of a cover-up, purported victims who are dead or whose files have been proved false or nonetheless removed from the released files. So too, for alleged victims who have chosen to reveal their entities and identities and engaged in public advocacy, appeared in media, signed open letters, even published books, even copies of years old news articles are marred with superfluous redactions, all of which undermines the purpose of the exercise giving the public a complete account of the government's investigation of Epstein, and it goes into a bunch more examples of just ridiculous laughable publishing than retracting or retracting then publishing.

44:44And then now they're saying there's what, 46,000 more that need to come out but they're still being processed, which they didn't mention a couple of weeks ago and the other stuff came out. It's just all a mess. It does seem to be a real story that somebody in the Justice Department, Pam Bondy's idea and did Trump direct it? Did she do it on her own? That they yanked a bunch of the Trump stuff out of there. Yeah. Not that I think he's guilty of anything, but they just didn't want to talk about it all. So they yanked it out of there, which now that your caught is a bad look. I mentioned this earlier, Miranda Devine writing in the New York Post, and if you don't know her act, she was like the lead person on the Hunter Laptop story, just beside herself over the fact that the rest of the media would not believe that this was true, which of course it turned out to be 100% true. She has been beaten up on Russia gate and what a hoax that was forever. So she is on Trump's side on a whole bunch of this stuff. But she says the Epstein file thing is a bad road to go down for Republicans.

45:46Nothing has come out of this yet. Nothing is going to come out of it. Hauling the Clintons up there just to try to embarrass him was horrifying and is only going to backfire because the Democrats are going to bring up clearly Melania and Donald when he's out of office and Miranda Devine wraps up her article with no pedophile ring has been busted and probably never will be. We got to move on from this, but I don't think we're going to. If you're serious about this talk to all the cops involved in all the investigations, including the FBI, they're the ones to talk to. If you're not serious, then stop this foolishness. If you missed a segment an hour, get the podcast. So I'm strung and getting on demand. We got a lot more to come in hours three and four. Armstrong and Getty. No one knows what the future holds, but you deserve a weather app that can help. Weather bug is easy to use and provides forecasts for your every need.

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