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FIRST CONTACT IN THE 2030s? Galactic Constitution, Inner Earth & Humanity’s Space Future


Brad Johnson returns to Exopolitics Today with Dr. Michael Salla for a wide-ranging conversation about what he believes could be a dramatic acceleration in humanity’s relationship with space and extraterrestrial civilizations.


Brad shares new information from his contacts suggesting that some form of global first contact may now happen in the 2030s, much earlier than he previously expected. He also discusses what he describes as a developing “galactic constitution” involving humanity, Inner Earth civilizations, and extraterrestrial groups, with agreements that could eventually open access to the Moon, Mars, and parts of the Inner Earth.


The conversation moves into some extraordinary territory: hidden technologies emerging from secret programs, anti-gravity and portal systems, consciousness-controlled orbs, temporary “avatar” bodies, ancient installations beneath Antarctica, and the possibility that humanity is being prepared to become a true spacefaring civilization.


They also discuss Elon Musk and the role he may play in bringing advanced aerospace technology into the public arena, the Moon as a multi-civilization treaty zone, Inner Earth societies numbering in the billions, and Brad’s controversial perspective on Venus and the possibility of highly advanced human civilizations already existing elsewhere in our solar system.


Are the rockets, lunar programs, Space Force announcements, and growing race toward Mars simply the beginning of a much larger transition?


This conversation connects the dots between disclosure, advanced technology, Inner Earth, extraterrestrial contact, and what Brad believes may unfold before the end of the next decade.


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In 2008, Brad Johnson began communicating with an extra-trestrauer from the serious starr system called Adronus. He has also made contact with other extraterrestrial beings, including inner earth beings, and he has been getting an amazing amount of information about what to expect for the rest of this decade and what we are about to see happening on the Moon and Tarika and Mars. Welcome Brad back to the show. Welcome. Thank you very much for having me once again. I appreciate it. Yeah. Well, always great to have you back. I know you've been very busy, and I know you recently did a couple of forecasts about what to expect as the 2020s play out and as we get into the 2030 time window. So, yeah, you want to just encapsulate what you feel

or what you've been told or into it is coming. Yeah, there has been a lot of developments happening in 2026, even just leading up into the late 2020s, and going into the 2030s. So, one of the big announcements I got, it was actually just a couple of weeks ago, is that it is very likely that we are looking at a particular type of first contact or global contact taking place within the 2030s. Now, we still don't have an exact date of when that is going to be happening, but through an interaction I have had with an inner earth contact of mine. She goes by the name of Athena just a couple of weeks ago. She was talking to me about this big amount of news. Now, there's quite a few things that are leading up into that. Really, we're going to be seeing a lot more talk about space. We're going to see a lot more talk about different countries that want to go to the moon. We're going to be seeing a lot more discussion about Mars. Of course, Elon Musk is very big on going to Mars and going to the moon. He's very big on getting data centers

up in orbit of the earth at the same time, and this is not an accident. There is actually some particular type of charter or galactic constitution that is at work right now between Intraterrestrial civilizations, us, human beings, and extraterrestrial civilizations. We're looking at it like a triad. She was discussing that there were meetings taking place, quite a few different meetings taking place between certain leaders of the earth and some of these extraterrestrial races, not just that, but beings that we would know as the Argothans as well too. The Argothans have a very strong, you could say, foothold on Antarctica. With Antarctica, it's also been shared by her that the melting of the ice sheets will be continuous, but this has nothing to do with global warming. This has everything to do with activation. This has everything to do with new technologies, but old technologies coming online that is certainly new to us. That is going to cause a lot of

melting of more of the ice sheets. As the ice sheets around Antarctica start to melt, there's going to be a lot more structures, pyramids, ruins, temples, installations, and so forth that are actually going to be revealed. Again, that can already be seen through a lot of satellite imagery as well too, that the governments of the world already have access to. They're very much aware that Antarctica is nothing like what we were thinking of just a gigantic ice continent. It's not. A lot of it is going back into Atlantis, into Atlantian technology at the same time. Again, we do have, like I said, a lot of talk about humanity going back to the moon and humanity going to Mars. That's just going to be the beginning. There's going to be a lot more colonies coming through the asteroid belt as well too. So humanity in the time ahead will probably start mining in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. That asteroid belt used to be a planet that used to be called Meldek. There's even a satellite that's in the asteroid belt referred to

as series. That's C-E-R-E-S. So there'll probably be some discussions about that in the future as well too. But really what's what was the big announcement here is that contact, global contact, first contact, is very likely to happen in the 2030s. In my information in the past, I always considered, it'll probably be around 2050s, maybe the 2060s as well too. But from how things are moving forward right now, it's almost like there's an acceleration. There's a shift that has happened. And now we're starting to see that there's going to be a lot of plans here in this decade about different nations of the world, different countries wanting to become space-faring. So it's not just AI that's going to be discussed. It's going to be about going to space. And there's going to be a race altogether of different companies that want to create data centers and basically putting them in orbit. Now what is eventually going to happen as well too is there's going to be a lot more outer

space construction around the orbit of the Earth as well too. So you can have institutions. You can have different types of installations or even educational centers or even resorts that would be available in the orbit of the Earth that basically would be prefabricated here. So my feeling is, I think Elon Musk is going to be leading a lot of the charge of these new types of establishments where you're actually looking at a lot more, I could just say, installations, structures that are going to be designed and developed upon the orbit of the Earth. In the 2020s here right now, we're basically just seeing a lot more of the centralized states of government and just centralization slowly start to fall away. When we're looking at the future, when we're looking at the next few years, it is not going to be a centralized government. It is going to be decentralized. Everything is primarily going to be decentralized. What the 2020s primarily represents right now is the

take down of that. The 2020s, even if we look at the number 2020, it equals out to four, but we're also looking at the two and the two. So the 22 is basically a master architecture decade. And that is really what represents this decade altogether is it's a re-architecture of everything. In order for that new architecture to come together, the old architecture needs to be pulled apart. Even in Chinese astrology for this year, it is what's referred to as the Year of the Firehorse. The Year of the Firehorse, there's a lot of debilitations that are taking place this year. That debilitation comes from government, that comes from media, that comes from oil companies, again, like we're seeing, the dollar is on oil is increasing, inflation on the rise. So again, all of these things that are happening right now is again, kind of like watching the crumbling of an old foundation take place. So throughout the 2020s for what we're seeing here in 2026, there will definitely be a lot more

announcements of intentions to go to space. I don't think they'll go to space right away, but there's going to be intentions of going to space as well too. As I said, that there is a type of galactic constitution that is being created right now with certain races together with humanity. Like I said, intra-terrestrial and extraterrestrial in nature. Again, there's a lot of happenings together with Antarctica. Antarctica is going to be shifting. There's going to be a lot of, you may start to see a lot of earth changes based upon what's happening in Antarctica. In Antarctica, in the past, we've had basically a plume of intense heat that basically moved throughout the entire planet and then later on dissipated. And my feeling is that this also came from a lot of the technology from Antarctica at the same time. So with Antarctica, with the intra-terrestrial and extraterrestrial confederates with a confederation, but a charter or a constitution taking place with humanity looking to actually now

start going out in the space a lot more. A lot of things have been lifted. A lot of veils have shifted fundamentally. So we're seeing a major amount of updates here about times changing and making humanity a space-faring civilization very quickly at the same time. Well, that raises a very interesting question that, you know, on the one hand, it's very true. Like humanity at the moment is not a space-faring civilization because as far as the 99.9 percent of humanity is concerned, we don't have rockets that can get to the moon, that can get to Mars and land people there and establish colonies and so forth. That's something that we can expect by the end of the decade or next decade. But of course, you've also got these those secret space programs or those programs that have been run by the Cabal, or the Illuminati, or whatever you want to call it that have been using these legacy aerospace companies to build advanced technologies and keeping that restricted to

just the very, very tiny percentage of humanity. So what happens to all of that infrastructure? Over the last, whatever you want to call it, 40, 50, 60 years when the corporations, the Cabal, the secret governments have built all of this hidden infrastructure, whether it's in Antarctica, the moon, Mars, and so forth. What happens to all of that? Well, the funny thing is when you actually look at Elon Musk, what he's not telling people because you can kind of just see it in his eyes, he's been shown the bigger technology. He's been shown portal technology. He's been shown the TR3Bs. He's been shown a lot of the anti-gravitational. He's been shown a lot of the black projects on this planet. So really, I would say don't fool yourself. He is very much aware of a lot of those particular technologies. Is he allowed to talk about it in public? No. But he most certainly has seen the idea of portal technology. He has most certainly seen the idea. It's kind of like what I've

talked about before and I believe I was on your show before. And we're talking about this is that you will have certain agents that will go to universities and go to different forms of educational installations as well too. And they will provide blueprints to the engineers and saying this is what we want you to build. And now you have like the blueprints of a TR3B. And now you have the blueprints of a flying saucer. Now you have the blueprints of free energy technology. Now you have an anti-gravitational device that they want you to build. So that's really what they'll do is they'll go to universities, they'll go to advanced educational centers, and they'll basically just give these plans. We don't really know who these people are. Sometimes they can be military. Sometimes they can basically be working through an agency. But they are just really meeting a lot of the heads of these institutions and saying this is what we want you to do. Here's your blueprint. We want you to build this. And then as that starts to get built, then it starts to unravel itself into the public eye.

So Elon Musk just looking at him. He is very much aware. You can see it in his face about these black projects that have been kept. So they're not being thrown in the dark at all. They're not being discarded on the contrary. They are basically in the assembly line. They're kind of like in a waiting queue. And there's going to be not just him with SpaceX and so forth. But there's going to be other institutions, other companies that are also going to have a very vested interest in wanting to build a lot more advanced technology. So it'll be kind of like we could call advanced aeronautics. So the advanced aeronautics really won't even be aeronautics anymore because you're going to start working with anti-gravity. They are going to start bringing in frequency systems. They're going to start bringing in anti-gravity systems. They're going to start bringing in advanced energetic systems and replacing the nature of propulsion. Because again, you can only do so much with chemical rockets. Chemical rockets is not going to get you through the entire solar system. You're basically just kind of like crossing your heart and hoping to God you can get to Mars

safely in one piece with that kind of archaic technology. But he's using that right now as a stepping stone for something else. So really what we're seeing is we're kind of seeing this just being played out in the public eye that oh, with our scientists and our engineers and our researchers are actually now starting to realize that there's a lot more happening with advanced technology. Where we can actually start to replace propulsion by working together with acoustic levitation. Where we can start working together in shifting spacecraft and so forth and actually building it. He's actually thinking of building something like a warp drive. That's even Elon Musk's own intention is that he wants to build a type of warp drive in that sense. And that's a stepping stone in the right direction because a warp drive is actually a very real thing. But he basically wants to start doing something like that. So I think the idea of the chemical rocketry is only going to last so long. It's more so just kind of like a horse and porno show about telling people that we're starting off with rockets. But when we really get going, we won't be using rockets

anymore. Well, that's very encouraging and it's very interesting that one of the people I work with JP XUS Army says that he went into this base under Green Mountain Alabama, which is right actually on the outskirts of Huntsville, Alabama. It's actually a part of that kind of whole complex of tunnels and caverns there that he actually said that there was a picture of Elon Musk hanging prominently in that spaceport where they had all of these technologies that had been recently developed like reverse engineered craft with these kind of like brain interface technologies to train international pilots. And Elon Musk portrait was there. So kind of like confirms what you're saying right there. Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. He's he's quite well liked, I'd say, but a lot of the intercom stellar community. It would not surprise me at all that he's going through a lot of these meetings, these meetings with a lot of these ET's. So he is very much

in the know. This is exactly why they're kind of working with him as a proxy. And he's going to be kind of like the spokesperson between that. He is also speaking out strongly, but against censorship as well too, because he's basically representing the energy of someone who's trying to get people out of the centralization and moving much more into decentralization. He's a little too obsessed with the robot thing, I think, but other than that, he's really going to be the one who's going to be the builder. He's kind of like the benchmark. He's the innovator because a lot of other people are going to start stepping forward at the same time. And they are going to have vested interests in a lot of these advanced technology. So a lot of the black projects that we've seen had heard about and discussed over the many decades are actually going to start coming into light here very soon. Like I said, we really have clearance right now to go to inner earth. We now have clearance to go to the moon. We now have clearance to go to the Mars. And this is going to build up industry. And it's going to create again a pretty lot more jobs just for people to start building spacecraft and not just any particular rockets or anything about spacecraft that is very highly advanced. I don't think

we're going nuclear or anything of that nature. But like I said, it could be something like a warp drive. But like I said, if you really want to go all the way, you start working with terroidal technology. But I think that's in the plans for them to build. I think right now, it's just a matter of them getting their engineers together. And they're basically at that point where they're getting the blueprints from these agencies and saying, we want you to build this. And then you're basically just giving it cover saying that your engineers came up with this with years and years of experience in research. Well, no, not really. Just some guy came together and gave us the blueprints. And we built it. So that's really the true story behind the cover story. But the cover story will be, oh, it's engineering work and all that stuff is well, yeah, reverse engineering for a very long time. Yeah, well, one of the technologies that I have heard has been developed is this being able to transfer consciousness into orbs that are portaled to different places. So you could be reclining in some facility and your consciousness is transferred via a portal into an orb and you have

full functionality or full control over that orb that explores and does things and then comes back. That's the boogas, that's the boogasphere. The boogasphere is exactly that reason, right? It's kind of like in Stargate as well too, where they would have like communication stones. And then you put out a communication stone, then you basically take over a body in that sense. In this case, it's basically just a it's like a remote probe, like a remote orb. So a boogasphere in that sense is like a housing of housing of a vessel that your consciousness can occupy and you can actually just pilot it through your own consciousness to go and explore and to do anything you want with it. So the whole nature of a boogasphere is it's acting as a consciousness remote. So I don't know if they're going to figure that out, but nonetheless, there's a search and process you have to go through it of course. But a boogasphere is simply that. It's a it's a it's a hosted conduit for consciousness. Fascinating. Fascinating. So I mean, I mean, I can understand the military applications for something like that, but also the recreational would be amazing. I mean, imagine being able to just

you're just trying to turn it on and you're out there exploring, you know, the Martian landscape with me. I mean, if we could even go further is that you're basically creating an automaton or you're creating like a homunculus. So what you're doing is you're actually having a human form that is it's not a robot in that sense, but it's actually housed in regards to working together with magnetism, to working together with with vitality with consciousness as well too. Kind of like an avatar again where they're they're shifting bodies and they come out as a as a navi in that sense. But in this case, it's a little bit more better. It's it's kind of like your they have these onboard ships as well too. They have these homunculus that they can actually set a body aside for you. And it has a type of simulated chakra network and you're actually able to occupy a homunculus in that sense and you're able to start walking around this ship in an artificial body remotely for a certain amount of time. So that is already a reverse engineered ET technology. You find those quite a bit when you're going aboard motherships and so forth is they actually can prepare a homunculus for you. You can even go into like a stasis pod. You can actually have like a human body,

but like I said, it's a homunculus. It's a temporary body and you have interactions with them. Of course, you can also do this with your own consciousness. But if you want it for convenience as a means of being able to physically interact with other beings and to attend meetings and so forth, you'll often occupy a homunculus body. So between homunculus and consciousness remote probes and orbs and bogus fears. Yeah, all this technology is a very real thing. Now you want to tell us about this collective constitution that's being developed with the help of the agathons. Yeah, it's basically a kind of like a new treaty. I've heard people say that there's been a tax on the moon. Oh my gosh, you're not going to have a tax on the moon. The tax on the moon, this is the whole moon itself is a gigantic intergalactic treaty zone. You have over 40 different races contained upon the moon and they all have treaties and all of those treaties will not ever raise hands against anybody. There is not to be any warfare on the moon. Now basically a lot of these civilizations, some of them have come and gone and some are basically

being part of this new treaty on the moon is that they are not lifting, they're not raising hands of violence towards each other. So this is why I didn't really look into the idea of people saying all moons are being attacked. I said, guys, the moon's not going to be attacked. If you have a race that's going to attack the moon, you have about, well, again, let's say in this example, 39 other races pointing guns at that one. So like I said, the moon is not like that. The moon is very much a peaceful zone and it has a treaty. It has multiple treaties. It has constitutions with it. So it's kind of like looking at our, you know, the American constitution or the Canadian charter or any other example you want to give on Canadians. So I have to give that charter example. But basically the constitution is talking about fair rights. It's talking about working together with other civilizations. So it's kind of like a partnership. But the constitution is also granting certain lands to the people. I don't have all the information on the constitution. I know my connection with Athena. She briefly touched on it, but she says, basically, you look at it in the same way as a

constitution that the constitution is for the entire planet. It is not just for the United States. Right? The United States wants to be greedy and thinking that everything belongs to them. So this is not for them. This is for the entire planet. The entire planet, the entire people of Earth are going to have access to the inner earth, some areas of the inner earth. There's even lands being reserved for humankind because they're going to be involved in bigger things. We have been kept out of a lot of the bigger things that's happening in the galaxy right now. And that's going to change. So now we're going to see a lot of the affairs that are going to be taking place in the inner earth. We're going to be seeing a lot of the affairs taking place on the moon. We're going to see a lot of affairs that are going to be taking place in Mars. I can't say it if it'll be public yet, but in time it will be. And again, this constitution is basically laying out rights and privileges and working together and having claimancies to lands upon different celestial bodies. So again, the interior of the earth, the moon, and Mars. Other than that, I don't

have too much information, but it is really working together with a lot of different treaties of civilizations. And a lot of these other civilizations are very human. Okay? So we're really looking at humans or hybrid humans that would really be the first that would represent the contact that I've received from Athena saying that this is most likely going to be happening in the 2030s and not the 2050s as I originally projected. So it's a lot quicker, a lot more sooner where this is going to be happening. But the constitution is basically laying all these things out because it's not going to lead to any warfare. It's not going to lead to any misunderstandings. It is going to lead to where humanity is actually going to be getting mentored by a lot of these particular other civilizations as well too. Because some of these civilizations are really just us within the great distant future, right? We're basically looking at hundreds of thousands or even millions of years ahead in the future and it's us. So it's kind of like we're coming back and we're mentoring ourselves going with a with a large gap of 100,000s to millions of years of evolution in the

middle. That's truly fascinating that we are mentoring ourselves from the future but aren't really aware of that because that actually would make a lot of sense. Now as far as this are galactic constitution that's currently being developed. Now you mentioned that there's going to be some land in the inner earth which is going to be set aside for surface humanity. So that raises the question, well how many people would be allowed to go there and would there be like filtering? I mean, are you going to have like, is it going to be a lottery? Is it going to be like, you have to go through a screening process to be invited to the inner earth? You have to have a certain threshold of consciousness, unity consciousness. Well the funny thing is a lot of these lands have already been known by some of the higher ups of the earth. So we're already aware of these lands that are available because they've been to these lands as well too. So it's not some

a strange land if we're looking at some people who have already been there but he says, she says, how it's going to be working together is that we will be choosing the ones that will be coming in, right? It's not something that's, oh, I'll raise my hand and I'll go there and well, sorry, you're not on a list. So really you could say it's the inner earth civilizations that are choosing certain people and it's voluntary. It's never mandatory to have that nature. But there will be contacts and how many there could be. It could be anywhere from thousands to millions, right? So I know they've contacted me in the past but they've never given me an invite to say, Brad, you want to go there and earth and like, no, I don't mind visiting it. I've visited a couple times, astrally, but you know, there'll be invitations in that sense. So I feel like in the time, when the time approaches, there will be an opportunity for maybe some sort of uninsured as a new story or some particular type of event that will welcome in certain people that are going into the inner earth. But for my feeling is it's they, it's kind of like the old saying, don't call us, we'll call you and that's really the mentality of them. So they will be the ones that will be

making decisions of the type of humans that will come together. So they work together. So we, we still have some gray areas pertaining to that. But she hasn't elaborated too much on how this will happen. But she'll be saying it's that we will be choosing a lot of them. It's not so much the del-fi that are choosing its other inner earth civilizations because here's the thing. The population in the inner earth right now, if we're looking at humanity with about 8 billion, we would have close to about 20 billion beings in the inner earth right now. So that's about two and a half times the size of the population of humans on the earth. You have over 20 billion beings in the inner earth and the lens in the inner earth are actually much more available. You're looking at vaults, you're looking at lands within the earth that actually just spanned a vastness and you really can't tell the difference because I've been there when you're actually in the inner earth, you swear you're on the surface of the earth that you can't tell the difference. There's a sun in the sky, the sky is blue, everything right. So you really can't tell the difference when you're going

into the inner earth to these dimensions because they're not really just you know localized linear lands we're looking at. You're actually looking at a shift, you're actually going into a particular dimensional pocket, so to speak, where this land is located in the inner earth, but it's as just as real as if you were on the surface. So obviously they want to protect those lands. So I think it's mature people, it's it's kind of like there's a calling of who they decide will be there. And then of course in that appropriate time, we will see that happen. So this could be kept very quiet or this could be very, very loud. We don't know at this time. But right now, this is what they are planning is having people being part of the inner earth so that they can actually talk about the culture of the inner earth for something for humanity to take back with them. Should they decide to go back to the surface? I mean, that's a huge number 20 billion. I mean, that's a million. You said more than twice our surface humanity. Now out of that 20 billion, are we talking, I mean, in earth beings, there's been described, they've been described as human

looking, then you also have some kind of reptilian looking beings, some kind of raptor type beings. I mean, what are we talking about when it comes to, you know, earth, do we get the whole kind of something? And I think you've talked about it as well. The four types, the praying mantis and people, the grays, humans, reptilians that they are all in earth beings. Yeah. Well, we would look at it as the primordial three. Okay. So the first one would be human or humanoid. The second would be insectoid. The third would be reptilian. So those are the, those are usually the common three that you would find in the inner earth. There are also ones that are grays, but grays are just humans. Grays are, are fetoid humans in that sense. So they are, they are human beings themselves. So they would fit in the human or humanoid category. So basically you would have the humanoid, you would have the reptoids, the reptilians, and you'd have the insectoids. So those are the three that you actually commonly find on every habitable planet out there. You'll find that kind of three combination. Humans, reptilians, and sectoids. Now if we basically go into the six, we would have

mammalians that you could add to it. We would have avians that you could add to it, and you can have aquatics that you would have in it. That's the six root races of the galaxy. Humans, reptilians, insectoids, mammalians, aquatics, avians. Okay. So those are the six, those are the primary six sentient races of our galaxy. Primarily if you were to go to many different planets all across the galaxy, you would find the intermixing of those six root races. So for us pertaining to that, it's not no doubt that there's aquatics, but aquatics would be living much more in the oceans. No doubt there's avians, but the avians in that sense would have maybe a little bit more of a dimensional veil over them. And then of course you have the mammalians, like the Sasquatch for example, feline races. So you'd have feline humanoids, Sasquatch humanoids, marsupial humanoids in that sense. Everything that basically represents the mammal quotient of a sentient form. So those would

be the six primary races, but from the inner earth's perspective from what I've gotten, a lot of it is human reptilian and insectoid. I mean, this is really astounding because I've never heard the inner earth being described in that way. We have 20 billion people that have been there or that occupy that. So that would suggest that, and of course, surface humanity has long been controlled by the cabal, by this corrupt elite doing all these kind of practices, keeping the rest of humanity in the dark. But in the inner earth, I mean, I assume that they have a much more enlightened leadership. And so they're really waiting for us to catch up in consciousness so that that kind of leadership can be expanded to include surface humanity. Yeah, because I mean, it's all there was once upon a time where humanity and a lot of other races were living in harmony.

And then humanity became too warlike and basically to cause separation for humanity to kind of go through this particular path so that other races aren't being affected by their own tyranny that they had. But if you're looking back in the earlier days of humanity, we had all kinds of connections with different races that we do not have now because everything just started to densify a lot more. But what happens when that density now starts to reverse itself and now there's a malleability with that malleability, you now have access to a lot more races, they're actually going to start coming together. So it's kind of like, you know, humanity's being kept in the closet right now just to get through their own little cycle of this warring attitude and the centralization that needs to go. And now that we're starting to see that go, then the closet can open up again and now we're going to start seeing a lot more of this interaction. Yeah, I mean, basically that the whole idea is that when we look at the interior of the earth, when we look at the surface of the earth, quite comfortably, you can probably get about 10 to 12 billion people on the surface of the earth. But the funny thing, and this is what I've learned from a lot of other

races and civilizations on other planets, is that you don't really have a lot of people living on the surface of planets. You have them other living in the interior of planets or you have them living above planets. So they basically start creating cities, they'll start creating infrastructure, they'll start creating these kind of plateaus and platforms above the above their planet and start living there and they'll have civilizations that will live in the interior of the earth as well, too. So the interior of the earth is actually a lot more fruitful than the surface of the earth. The surface of the earth has a great fruitfulness to it. But if you're going much more into the interior, there's a lot more capability pertaining to the ability of your lifespan. Your lifespan actually increases when you actually start living interior to the earth. So this again is the whole idea. You look at it like a honeycomb earth, right? The earth is a honeycomb. It's on a flat earth and it's on a hollow earth. It's a honeycomb earth. So when you're looking at the earth in that way and you're going much more into the depths and the interiors of the earth, a lot more of its life force is contained

in the interior of the earth. And this is why a lot of civilizations will live in the interior of the earth. And the interior of the earth can actually house a lot more civilizations and a larger population. Approximately about four or five or even six times more than what the surface itself can. This is why we have that 20 billion number. That's an approximation, but that's basically the closeness to the amount of population on the earth because you're not just looking at humans, you're looking at insectoids, you're looking at reptilians, you're looking at all these different types of human and humanoid races as well too that are existing internally through the earth. And the more that you're living internally through the earth, the greater the potency of the life force of the planet that is there that actually works with you at the same time. This is exactly why a lot of these inner earth civilizations have a long lifespan, right? It's kind of like what we would see in the Bible, right? The people living for 600 years and so forth. Well, that's exactly what happens when you start living into the interior of the earth. You are actually getting your life force expanded a lot more. So there's a lot more different types of energies. It's kind of like looking into a higher density of existence when you're going into the inner earth. So this is exactly what a

lot of civilizations on a lot of planets do is they're either live internally through the earth or they live above their own earth or their own planet and they'll function there. We will go on the surface every now and then, but usually we like to leave that for the wildlife, right? They want to try and keep as much of the original lands intact for the wildlife that needs it there. So a lot of them will not really live there. There will be some that may, but really a lot of them will be internal or above their earth orbital speaking. Now, now with the inner earth civilizations, is there allowed to be a lot of kind of, I guess maybe we'll call it tourism, travel. If you're a human in one of the human colonies, can you visit an insectoid colony or reptilian colony or their prescriptions on that kind of thing? Well, they were very xenophobic to humans for a very long time, right? Because humanity was basically in a war phase and this is exactly why so many of them kind of left the surface and really talked to them. There were again interactions throughout the

centuries, throughout the ages about humanity trying to basically grow up, right? And they're trying to get these civilizations to do it. But it's quite an idea that there's really one true ideas that we want to kind of leave them alone. And one race may be, we want to leave them alone because we don't like them. Number two, we want to leave them alone so that they can mature. So there's either races that hate our guts or there's races that just wanted to kind of leave us alone and mature and go through our own cycles. So it's kind of a mixed bag in that way, but they really kept their distance. Even when we look at the fae realms, the realms of the fae were looking at fairy in that sense. So those are interdimensional realms. Those are sharing the earth as well too. They are sharing the exact same space. If we damage our earth here, their earth gets damaged, right? So this is exactly why they've also had envoys and liaisons and often through Irish tales and going into the land of England or Albion in that sense and telling humanity about the importance of maturity and taking care of the earth and working with her because you're affecting

our realm as well too. When you're doing all these wars in that sense and when you're using nuclear weapons, you're basically causing a lot of other realms to be destroyed at the same time. This is why there is a zero tolerance policy for weapons of mass destruction is that the ships will deactivate it before humanity will even have a chance to use them. So really right now, it's not really a tourism that's happening because this is not really the intention of tourism. That's not really and their makeup of their civilization. This is the idea of an invitation, an invitation to actually help to broaden culture. So that culture is something that we learn from them that we can take back for ourselves. It's kind of like an invitation of a classroom, I would say rather than the idea of tourism. Now with Antarctica, there have been a lot of stories, a lot of information about a breakaway German colony that was established there after the Seven World War and over time, they developed a secret space program and allied themselves with off-world reptilians and so forth.

Now apparently they have kind of like been removed from the earth or removed from Antarctica. So yeah, what do you know of Antarctica, that breakaway German colony there and also the existence of the secret space program out of Antarctica? Yeah, those are very real, right? We have a lot of, I got to say, a lot of the nations of the world have their own little pin in Antarctica. So it's not just looking at old German bases or anything. I mean, really the entire civilization of Earth is involved with Antarctica. So many different nations have already put their pin in Antarctica. They all have Intel coming through there. There's a lot of things that we're happening with Antarctica. Antarctica was once a war zone. There was once a land that was engulfed with war because there are so many advanced technologies. There are pillagers that were coming back many thousands of years. My feeling is that Antarctica was frozen out of the means of necessity to try to protect

a lot of the technology, the culture because the funny thing is a lot of that technology and culture really belongs to us, right? It's our pre-genitors. It's our pre-genitor technology. So being able to use Antarctica and Flash freezing, basically using a type of cold fusion that basically Flash froze everything where everything is still very much preserved, I think that was an necessity because I think there were just too many pillagers coming upon Antarctica stealing relics, stealing a lot of ancient technologies that could be used for war that could destroy planets, right? So if you really harness it and you weaponize these things, they could be used for terrible means. A lot of these things about how they're coming upon the planet have originally been used for good, right? They were not used for weaponization and war. And this is the whole idea of this plague of us getting into this weaponization of war by a bunch of rogue groups in that sense that basically want to utilize this for power because they don't know the power of their own consciousness. So they have

to go in towards externals and try to dominate the physical plane. So really my feeling is that Antarctica was Flash frozen out of necessity and that there is a lot of ancient technology upon Antarctica. Yes, there's a technology there where you can build advanced ships, but again, humanity cannot touch FTL. They cannot touch any faster than light propulsion. We are quarantined in this star system for a very long time. And so there's people that are talking about we've gone beyond the solar systems. I should know you haven't. And the only thing that really would be able to go through the solar system would be something like a remote probe. Humanity itself cannot leave the star system. They are quarantined. And there's a lot of people talking about these certain fleets. And so sorry guys, you're being deceived here. Humanity itself is staying here in the solar system. They cannot go anywhere else. They will have beings that may come here to tell you about different solar systems and so forth. But humanity has not gone beyond the star system because

they're not allowed to use FTL. So that is basically kept in the dark. That's like being an avalanche. It's like having the vault there and you have this technology, but you can't use it right now. And if they try, they get it shut down right away. So this again is why there's been a lot UFOs, UAPs, what do you call it? Nowadays that have hovered over installations as well too. Because they are not just hovering over there and saying, Hey, humans were here. They're deactivating a lot of the technologies that they're doing, right? I mean, even CERN had some issues as well too. In its construction as well too, where they'd have saboteurs coming in and they'd basically sabotage the Hadron Collider. And now they're making a bigger one. And this bigger one, the good news is that this is actually going to be used for better purposes. But really, yes, there's been ancient German installations and so forth bases there. But it's not really the Germans, right? When you were looking at the German movement, it's all about the real societies. It's all about the Nordics. The Nordics,

all the ones completely behind the entire Nazi German movement. It was all inner earth, intra-terrestrial Nordics, right? They're the ones that had the philosophy of the purebloods. That's more of the inner earth. And that's what German, basically, Germany used as a proxy for themselves, right? It's all based upon intra-terrestrial philosophy and intra-terrestrial rhetoric relating to Nordic civilization. So it's not even really Adolf Hitler's own idea, right? His idea, really, in hindsight was basically to end a lot of the bankers of this world. He wanted to kind of have his own dominion in that sense. And he wanted to switch fundamentally the balance of power. So, I mean, there's a lot to it. And he actually wanted to treat the German people very, very well. But we're not going to get into that because that's a lot of controversy behind that. But nonetheless, what we're seeing here is Antarctica was flash frozen as a means of preservation

and protection, keeping certain scavengers or, again, war mongers out to grab a hold, a lot of that technology that, if used in a certain way, it could be weaponized and it could cost tyranny across many other different star systems as well, too, if it's pillaged. So this is exactly why I feel Antarctica was flash frozen. There was so much going on there. It was a war zone. There are so many forms of technologies that are up for a grab, even with what we have in the middle east here on the planet. There is some ancient relics there as well, too. Humanity has gone and ward there. And so my feeling is that just going back centuries ago because Antarctica has only been frozen for a few centuries. It has not been frozen for very long. It's not many thousands of years. Antarctica used to be further up to the closer to the equator as well, too. Like I said, that would be like the continent of Atlantis. And that again is flash frozen. So it's flash frozen in that way to try to preserve everything so that humanity can't really get its grubby paws on the technology that could basically be used for war. Well, that's really fascinating because the information I've

come across is that Antarctica was flash frozen like 13,000 years ago as Plato described that there was these cut of clismic events and all of that. But you say that maybe parts of Antarctica was flash frozen much more recently that some of the Antarctica existed up until a few centuries ago. Yeah, it wasn't frozen 13,000 years ago. I mean, raising when we're looking at that, like even Antarctica as we know it today was even bigger than it is right now. Right? So again, it was even even larger continent. So a lot of it basically would be submerged. So again, if we're kind of looking at how Antarctica is today and say we're probably only looking at about 70 to 80% of its original size. We're still looking at about 28 to 25% that is unaccounted for. It may have been broken off into islands. It may have submerged itself altogether. But the Antarctica that we know today is not even the full intact continent that was what we would call Atlantis. It has not been frozen for 13,000 years. It would go back a few centuries because

a whole idea in that sense is during that time there was a lot of wars often interstellarly fought based upon trying to get technology. And then there was a decision to basically create an ice age. We're not just looking at the younger dryness. We're actually looking at some particular type of event that took place that actually flash froze at Antarctica, like a code fusion detonation, so to speak. So what happened 13,000 years ago was a lot of submerging. And of course, a great disaster that took place. But what we're seeing here centuries back is some sort of flash freezing event. So we'd have to kind of look through the records and that all together. But my feeling is that this is actually something that happened. I'd say between now and the last 1,000 years, where this took place. I mean, dinosaurs were actually walking around the earth no more sooner than about a thousand years ago. That's not a 65 million year extinction event, like we're told through science. If you look at a lot of old Chinese hieroglyphs and all that and Chinese paintings as well, too, you'd have Chinese people riding on an anchlea source. And this is going back maybe only about

800, 900 years ago. So we had dinosaurs on the planet going back a few hundred years. And that would maybe correlate to the time to where there was this flash freezing that took place. There was some sort of shifting event that took place where now you can't see them, but they were with us going back thousands of years rather than the idea of millions. Fascinating. Okay, definitely something worth exploring. Now I wanted to bring up some of the posts Donald Trump has been making. I mean, here's one. The moon is ours. So I guess that means that pretty soon is going to start renaming some of those craters, you know, crater America or something like that. But yeah, what's going on with Trump and the moon? What's he really saying here? Well, again, he always speaks in code in that way. So this is basically what I'm telling you is that a lot of what's happening right now is leading us into becoming a space-faring civilization. So you're noticing these changes. I mean, Elon Musk is talking about it. The death Trump is now starting to talk about it. We'll probably have other leaders on the planet start talking about going

to space. This is all part of the treaty I'm talking about. This is all part of a type of charter or a constitution that's being built that's actually allowing humanity to so came. Here you go. You can go with the men. We can go the moon. You can go with the men. Just go to the spot right here. This is where you're allowed to go and they can go there. Same thing with Mars. Here you go. Here's a spot that you can go to. You can start a colony. No one will interfere with you. And unless you want us to be a part of it, if you want us to be a part of it, we'll come in. If you just want this as your own space, then it's your own space. So they've basically been told the moon is available to you can go back to it now. It's not the it's not the old regime as it was before where humanity couldn't touch the earth. That's not it. So why is that possible? Human guardians. The human guardians, as I said, have basically taken over the moon going back quite a few years ago and they cleaned it up. They were basically working together in the human guardians is what we would call us as great

descendants. Many thousands or even millions of years ahead in the future is that they have been cleaning up the earth and there they have been working together not the earth's or the moon. And they've been cleaning up the moon to the point to where humanity will be able to go back to it. This is what I said going back like 2019, 2020. So eventually going to get to the point where humanity will be able to go back to the moon and they'll actually start to make colonies there. It'll be at the point where humanity will be able to go to Mars. They'll start looking at Venus as well too. That'll be one of the last agendas. Venus is not at all what we are told that it is. It is very much like earth, but we're not told that right even John Liger came forward with that as well too. He was talking about how Venus is lush and green and beautiful and it's a lot like earth. It is not a lead melting planet made out of sephoric acid. Know that stuff. He said that's all NASA coverups and garbage. So no, Venus is very earth like, but that'll be one of the last planets on the agenda because a lot of the notions have been helping humanity specifically with reverse engineer technology. And they still are. They say, well, let's kind of leave Venus till last.

But right now, go for the moon, go for Mars. That's what you have clearance for. And then eventually the asteroid bill. I'm glad you brought up John Liger. I think he had a lot of very interesting information. He was very right. He's very correct on many things. I'm like, yep, that's it. That's exactly what I've gotten to. So you got it. That's what I felt about him too. And it's interesting how a lot of people kind of throw him under the bus. He knew a lot of stuff. He had so many connections and everything. Just a lot of the stuff that he says, yeah, I've gotten this. I've gotten it. I don't have the connections. I have the cosmic connections. But as my cosmic connections are telling me, so that's exactly how I got with Venus. Venus is not some sephoric acid breathing lead melting volcanic ash spewing planets. As it, no, it's so much like earth. It's like earth's twin. It's very interesting also that in terms of the history of NASA missions and Soviet missions, the Soviets would fly to Venus. And the Americans would, NASA would fly to Mars. It was very interesting. I don't think any of the Soviet missions to Mars ever succeeded.

And I don't think there was any successful American landing on Venus as well. I think the Soviets did land on Venus successfully. But what they stated is that while there was a parachute to drop on Venus, and they said, well, if it was an 800 degree spewing sulfuric acid lead melting planet, how did a parachute drop survive 800 degree air? And it didn't. So we did have some things from Russia, yes. But again, it really just shows that there's something much more to Venus is where I say a lot of civilizations live in the interior. Of a planet and they will live in the orbit of a planet. But they will really not touch the surface of the planet. A lot of that surface is for wildlife or for other means. Well, another from the 1950s and 60s contacti literature. A lot of those contacti said that they met people from Venus. I mean, Georgia Damsky and Othon is probably one of the bitterings and Frank Strangest as well too. Valent Thor. So I always reconciled that with the NASA

data that Venus was this inhospitable hellhole on the surface with the habitable inner earth or the inner Venus regions. But you're saying that John Lee was actually correct that the surface of Venus is not this hellish planetary kind of a pressure cooker that we're told that actually it's very, very different. You could know it much like her. That's a twin. It's a very much like an earth like planet. Although it looks a lot different in that sense. They say, well, that's holography. A lot of the holography they can put a holography on the planet to make it look like a dead form. But when you go beyond that holography, you actually start to see the beauty of the actual planet that's there. So basically it's it's kind of like they're disguising the planets to give the impression that they're dead forms, but they're not. They're very much alive. And whether it's a holography like we know that about the moon with the the blip on this one. There's like there's a holographic line that moves down the moon. That's true too. Right. There's there's a lot of allegor family and they they can do some amazing magic tricks

to make it feel like this is a dead moon. But when all that's removed, you'd see technology, you'd see cities all over the place. Wow. I mean, that would mean that the cover-up of life on Venus would actually be one of the top lies that they've been doing. It's disseminating for 60 years or more. That's a very long time. That's sounding. That Venus is this flourishing civilization with a habitable surface and very evolved human-looking beings there that are working with us and have been sending representatives here. But that guys went just oblivious to all of that. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like I said, you could look out of a notion and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them and us. They look so much like us. They're humans. So they're humans living on Venus. But they are so highly evolved. I've had little conversations with Venusians as well too. They're beautiful beings. They're loving. They're full of love. They are kind of like what we are meant to be like in many thousands of years in the future. Very loving, very compassionate, very

unity consciousness. If you look at a Venus craft, look at a Liberty Bell. A Liberty Bell is primarily the type of Venusian craft that they use. It looks like a Liberty Bell. Yes. Yes. I've seen those craft that they've been using. Okay. Well, that is truly fascinating. So I want to kind of shift back now to some of these posts. Trump has been putting out. I guess, Haroldine, what is coming? And one of these posts is this one here where he talks about space force. And I mean, he really kind of represents space force as this kind of like militaristic organization that's going to be fighting for America. I guess American hegemony in space. I'm thinking that's kind of like in a way, it's what you're trying to do here.

Well, I think he's trying to flex his muscle. That's what he's doing. Look what we have. We have the air force. We have the space force. He's basically trying to give the impression don't mess with us. So he'll use AI is that particular means. But I mean, the space force is not, like it's a US creation, but we've had space forces upon the planet for a very long time. His concept of a space force is not new. There are all kinds of different forces altogether. And like I said, there's a lot of quans I have with the so-called Trump in the White House right now. He's not of his right mind. And I don't think it's even the real Trump. But this is just a guy who again prides himself on the ideas that he thinks he has. And he's basically flexing his muscle. And because here's the thing, a lot of countries are almost like turning guns towards the states and saying, if you don't knock this off, really, there's going to be some trouble here. And I think this is just a way of him flexing his muscle. And so, hey, we got space force here. And look at the explosions in the background. Look what we can do to you if you step out of line, right? It's kind

of like he's using threats with AI and a space force as a means of trying to keep himself as a military power. Yeah, it's very interesting. I mean, his depictions of the space force. I mean, this was another one that he just put out on his truth social. I mean, it shows the uniform of space force. But I mean, it looks very Nazi-like. It's like, well, is he trying to show that well, we can be as tough as what the Nazis or what the dark fleet had. We're going to have a wrong group out there doing this stuff. I mean, this doesn't look like a benign United Nations type collaboration effort here. Again, it looks, I mean, it's very intimidating. And again, I guess this is about more muscle flexing. Yes, yeah, yeah. That's really how I look at it all together. Is it basically him flexing his muscles and saying, look what we have here. And look at me. I get, I'm in charge of space. I'm in charge of the moon. The moon is mine and space is mine and the space force

is mine. And if you mess with us, then you know, I'll sick these dogs on you. But a lot of it is kind of more bark than it is bite. So I mean, that's just how I can come in on it. A lot of it is more bark than bite altogether. But it just feels like he's just trying to flex military muscle because he's getting a lot of he's making a lot of enemies. He's making a lot of enemies right now in the White House and across the world. And this is his way I think of retaliating back. But he kind of thinks of it like a child. Right. I mean, in a way, he has an intelligence to him. But he's doing this as a means to say, Hey, look what I have. Look what I have. And don't step out of line with me. To me, it just feels like a flexing muscle. Well, we're going to pause now and we're going to move to part two, where which is going to be on the my Patreon channel for those that are watching this. You can head on over to Patreon. And that's how you can support this channel. So in part two, we're going to talk about what is coming for the rest of the 2030s. And especially with 2029 being the death year, the year of transformation.

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