The Schilling Show: Victor Morris, D.J.O. Callahan

0:00Freaky and free phone Friday edition of the Shilling Show begins right now. Thank you for joining us weekdays from noon to two from making an appointment with this program unique throughout Central Virginia and beyond. I don't know if anybody doing a show like this and it's why you're here because we deliver fresh content to you live from day to day, five days a week, two hours a day. For almost 20 years, the couple of small breaks in between. Very small though in the course of all that time. Appreciate your patronage of the program. 977-1070 is a fun number Adam standing by to take your calls politely and professionally today for the community town hall, which is in effect whenever you like 434-977-1070 and coming up on today's edition of the Shilling Show will be talking with Victor Morris from Truth Builders. Socialist versus Biblical worldviews. How do they differ? Is there anything similar? There are socialists who claim to be Christians, but they're full of, well, you know what, they're

1:01full of coming up in hour number two, state Senator Bill Stanley. Also an attorney from the Stanley Law Group will be talking about Green County Sheriff's Office versus AG shoot him up Jones. The guy who wants to shoot children and watch them die in their mother's arms because they happen to be conservative. This guy is sick to the core. He's rotten. He's part of the culture of death clearly. And now he's going after Steve Smith in the Green County Sheriff's Office, which is doing good things in protecting their citizens. Hey, we spend a whole segment and I did a Shilling Show remix, which is up on Facebook called Sheriff Smith. Why are you doing this? And then we showed why he was doing this, which is cooperating with ice. It's so simple that anybody with a brain or even half a brain could see it, but that would exclude many of the people in Charlottesville, unfortunately, present company, mostly excluded. 977, 1070 is the phone number. Also coming up today, we're going to be going into non-political mode with just a fun

2:05topic, which I like to do every so often collectors, the guardians of physical and virtual worlds. When we talking about people and the psychology of collecting things and what's happened when everything becomes digital and there's nothing to collect. I guess you could collect songs, but I mean, I have some digitized songs, but I mostly have CDs which back them up, but is collecting even a thing anymore when there's really no things. It's an interesting concept and I found a fascinating topic. We'll get to that with David Callahan collectors and collecting things. I'll bet you we have a lot of collectors out there. I don't know that I collect too many things, but I probably have small collections of things like guitars that I like. All right, let's go to the phones 977, 1070 as we welcome Stuart. Hello, Stuart. Good morning. And you? Well, now that we have the encampment cleared out of people at this point, moving them

3:05somewhere, the interesting point I heard was that was it more than half the people currently checked in, did not come from on campus? Yes, that's what I heard. I don't know where they came from. They came from other places. Well, apparently the publicity is getting out about Charles Phil being the mecca, if you're homeless. Yeah. So I remember a couple of weeks ago the discussion with someone who was a supervisor or whatever, talking about the, will you squiss the balloon, it goes somewhere else. Well, now that we need to do that, the next step, and you've been dealing with this yourself only air, is to have a zero tolerance for anything popping up anywhere else. I mean, I mean zero. Okay. You think the extra key to the cream, but this thing resulted in, okay, maybe it's, you know, millions of dollars will be worth it. But don't show up somewhere else and expect to, you know, get away with it.

4:09The idea that these people, and it's been, point has been made, they don't like to be in, people don't like to be in clothes. They will show up over there, they'll go to Charlotte, they'll go to a couple of free meals, you know, and then they'll move back out to their life dollars. Usually what is what happened? Yes. So I was just hoping that at least the people that were going in, the people that were being processed, and it kudos to everybody who made it happen so peacefully, that their names are being taken so that, you know, they can be continued to be, you know, to be worked with and it's not just going to be a pass-through kind of situation. I know they talk about, you know, three or 60 degree services, but, you know, it, you get to the point they won't even give you their name. That's going to be a little hard. It is going to be hard. So a couple of things, on the first point that you made, I say, build it and they will come. And they certainly will. The word will go out and free food and free shelter and Charlottesville. That's an attractant to some people. As far as a zero tolerance policy, I do believe there are people in local government, namely the police chief who would likely do that on his own if he were autonomous because he

5:14has brought forward legislation or proposed legislation to the city council previously where they said no, but he's certainly never going to do that on his own because he's subject to the governance of the city manager, scamsanders. So he can't do that. And I don't, I don't believe there's any member of city council and certainly not a majority of city council that's willing to implement a zero tolerance policy. So I think you have the right idea. I think we're just going to see more of the same. And there's already places popping up. There's one off the 250 bypass in a little green area with a nice little tent city popping up in this beautiful green manicured area. And I heard from one of my callers that that was reported to the city and the city said that's V dot's problem. And then they called V dot and V dot said that's the city's problem. And so the small and campman apparently remains there. There you go. Okay. So yeah, some more of the same, right? Yes, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you, Stuart. I appreciate it. 977, 710, 70. We're off to a roaring start here on the Friday edition of the community town hall on this

6:20freaky and free phone Friday. Hello, Jerry. Hey, Rob. Hope you're well. Yes, I am. It's Friday. I'm in a good mood, good spirits and ready to roar. Yeah, I tried to look up your guest yesterday. You had a guy on the who's syndicated has a syndicated show on the radio and his name's not listed. I can't think John Gordon. I think it's John Gordon. Yes. Yeah, John Gordon's a little bit off base. I wanted to be able to call in and talk to him because if you listen to his radio, he has a lot of advertisements about his show. He said, there I go. I said, we need a certain amount of illegal immigrants. There I go. I'm right. This guy's completely off base. We don't need illegal immigrants. People may not remember when it was Apple picking time at Carter's Mountain. Busloads of people from Mexico and probably other countries came in. They came in on a work visa to pick those apples. Then they went back home and they didn't suck off the government teeth for the next 20

7:24years and have anchor babies here. So we don't need any illegal immigrants. If they work, come here and work, they get a permit, come here and work. So it's interesting. I was traveling a few years ago to places I'd never been before, Kentucky and Ohio. And we spent considerable amount of time in the area and Indiana as well. And as we were going to a lot of the fast food restaurants because it didn't go to any farms, but we did stop in and pick up food along the way for the kids. I did notice that there were no. The people that were working the fast food restaurant seemed to be consistent in demographic with the people who were living in the community by and large. In other words, it didn't look like they were relying on a foreign labor force in any of these places that you see here. So I think the contention that Americans won't do the work is probably not true. You might have to pay more, but then again, what's it worth to have a secure country? I think the other thing is that if you allow people to sit around and do nothing and reward

8:28them, then of course they won't do the work. So there's a couple of facets to that. Well, the other thing is no parent makes their child go find a job as they want a car, tell them go earn half the money. I did with my kids and they went to work at McDonald's and hard-eat places like that. And then some of the work at a greenhouse and they got sun tan and burned, but they learned about work. When they wanted to buy a car, they had half the money and I gave them the other half. These kids nowadays are, oh, my darling granddaughter or daughter, what would you like for a car? Let me go buy you one. You don't have to do anything just sit there and drive and wreck it and do whatever. There's nothing to talk to this generation. That's why you can't find them. Kids don't want to work. Yeah, we have a real problem with what we used to know as a work ethic. I think the whole concept is completely out the window. I think if you asked a lot of people under the age of say 25 or even 30, do you know what a work ethic is?

9:29They probably would have no idea what you were talking about. Well, Mr. Gordon is completely wrong and I don't know why he would use that as just a furie every time I hear him say, oh, we need a certain amount of illegal ambulance to do the work here, along with our families and 10 anchor babies. Yeah, there are programs. If you need someone to do work and I have someone who is very involved in the H2B program. So I mean, there are ways to do it legally. I don't know why we would need to have anybody here illegally. Thanks, Rob. I'm glad you agreed. Yeah. Thank you, Jerry. I appreciate it very much on the topic of cars. So my poor son bought a car. He paid cash for it and it was a nice looking car, a nice driving car, but not a brand that we normally buy. It starts with a V, there's a few of those. You can probably figure out what it is. I'm not going to say it out loud. And got a reasonable deal. And then within about maybe six months or less, I don't know, maybe it was a little more than six months.

10:29It wasn't working right. The engine was powering down. There was a light on that wouldn't go off. Took it to the several places. Nobody works on the brand that works starts with a V, especially when it comes to electronics except the dealer that starts with a V. So took it in, paid the diagnostic fee, paid $1,000 or more. Car came back, worked for a couple of days and then started doing the same thing again. Back into the shop. Another $1,000 got the car back running fine. Thinking we're done here now. And then about maybe a week and a half, two weeks ago, the car starts doing the exact same thing again after about $2,300 was put into this car. Which is a 2012 car. So it doesn't have a tremendous amount of value. And my son's paying all this at a cash and he's been working at a job that doesn't pay a whole lot of money for the past few years. He's changed that situation. So he's doing better.

11:30But he just gave up on the car that starts with a V and wants to figure out what we're going to do with it. And the meantime bought a car that starts with a T that's known for running a couple hundred, three hundred thousand miles. So that kid bought two cars with cash essentially and hopefully he'll get some money back for the one that starts with a V. Now I've got two daughters, one who's 18 and one who's going to be 16 this year. And both of them are studying and are practicing driving for their licenses. The one who will be 16 this year may get it sooner than the one who will be 18 or who is 18 this year. But they're both going to want to buy cars as well. And I think Jerry was very generous to offer half because my kids are going to be paying full freight on the cars that they buy. And so they are highly motivated to work and earn the money to buy a car. And I'm really glad that they seek the autonomy that kids don't seek so much today. I think part of this and I've heard from a lot of parents and by the way, the 18 year

12:30old is 18 and did not get the license at 16. I think a lot of this has to do with social media and the fact that she can pretty much connect with anybody at any time. It wasn't that way when we were kids and I just longed for the freedom living in Southern California. It could drive to the beach, drive to the mountains, drive to the desert, drive up and down Colorado Boulevard or Hollywood Boulevard because that's where I lived in that Southern California area. And that was car culture. And I couldn't imagine not having and driving a car as soon as I possibly could. These days it is different, but all of my kids will be buying their own cars. Thank you very much. And they are motivated to work to make that happen as soon as possible. All right, we're way, way late for the break. So let's go to it. Phone lines are open at 977-1070. The Schilling Show will return on this freaky and free phone Friday. All right. The Schilling Show continues on this freaky and free food Friday. I always love it when I hear smash mouth singing. I see that video waving his arms around. All right. So I'm going to talk about this and that one of my favorite cuts from the bumper music

13:34catalog, which I think is around 300 deep over all these years. We have a lot of songs that are very cool. If I do say so myself and are appreciated by the audience, 977-1070 is the phone number. Hey, coming up here at the bottom of the hour, Victor Morris in the house. He's from Truth Builders. Today we're going to take a look at Socialist versus Biblical worldviews and also take an overview of the present state of the United States of America, which is not good. I have been concerned for a long time that we couldn't get along as a country. This goes back to the early days of the show where we had a guy on from something called the Southern National Congress. I can't remember his name, but they had been meeting at the time planning a group of states that might have their form their own country. At the time, it sounded kind of outrageous, but I was intrigued by the idea. Today, I think it's almost inevitable that we just can't get along with people who want a pillage and steal from us and harm us physically. So what are we going to do about it?

14:35All right, let's go to the phones. We've got a couple minutes here and we'll give it to Greg on the Community Town Hall. Thank you, Greg. Well, you know, it's like you read my mind because I was watching something in a guy's study in Coral Marks and he's basically saying back in the mid-1800s. He marks made a deal with the devil. The bottom line is, I can't have time to go into his history, but he got very dark and he started writing marksening of socialism and communism. And it is definitely a deal with the devil. And so is political Islam. And the problem is, is there a university, if brainwash children into this and the schools as well, but it's demonic. Socialism or any modicum of such is demonic. And the bottom line is, when you take from people who achieve where God gives the gifts of somebody to achieve and you just steal it by the point of a God in a socialist state,

15:37that is of the devil. Oh, it certainly is. This whole idea of redistribution of taking money from one person, the government taking it instead of people willingly giving it to the church to do the work that's supposed to be done by the church, not by government. But you see, the whole thing gets confused. We had a guy on the program by the name of Stephen McDowell a couple times over the years. And the first time I had him on it was because he wrote this fascinating book called Rendering on To Caesar What is God's. And the whole concept was, when you give money to the government, you're demeaning God and glorifying the government. So people are no longer grateful to the church for doing the work on behalf of God. But they then become grateful to the government and the church is cut out of the loop. So it's, you're right, it's evil. It's satanic. I would ask our local politicians and our state and federal politicians on all sides and every party to look at the demonic behavior that they are propagating to the masses and and little kids think that when they graduate from college that the government should take

16:39care of them and that we should take care of everybody by the government and they just steal from one to give to another. I would ask our local border supervisors, City Council to say that demonic behavior that they are propagating to the population by stealing money at the point of a gun. Because here's the bottom line. If you don't pay your taxes, they're coming to get your property. Well, no one should ever have to choose between paying taxes and putting food on the table. Right board of student advisors, right, silly council. Greg, thank you very much. I appreciate your points. Well made. Let's go to the break. Shilling show comes back after news and weather with Victor Morris on a view of socialism versus biblical world view. How do they differ? Is there any crossover stay with the Shilling show an interesting conversation coming up straight ahead more open phones coming up at the top of the hour right now. Please welcome back to the Shilling show Victor Morris, the founder of truth builders. Today's topic is socialist versus biblical world views. Victor Morris. Thanks for joining us once again on the Shilling show.

17:41Well, thanks Rob. It's always a pleasure to be here with you. All right. We're going to start off with an overview of what the country looks like today, which I think if somebody was looking even a generation back or maybe even 10 years back to what's happening today, they would almost not be able to believe their eyes. So what do you see? Well, let me say this first of all, I am not a political animal. Yeah. I'm a theological and invent, but what I have seen, especially in recent months, coming from the left, promoting socialism, the growing trend of it and not just socialism itself, but really a communist world view is being promoted. That's what calls me to be stirred about this and think about it as a Christian had a look at it. Because what we're seeing is, I mean, we're seeing elected officials like the mayor of New York quoting Karl Marx. Yeah. You know, we're seeing the democratic socialist. If you go, for example, to their website, they're promoting what they are calling socialism, but it's nothing but pure communism.

18:43And you know, a recent survey found that 62% of those who age 18 to 29 have a favorable view of socialism, 34% have a favorable view of communism. So we have this growing trend in our country to look favorably on socialism and communism. I think it's an okay thing, not understanding what it really is, not understanding the inherent dangers in this particular world view in these systems. Yeah. This is really clearly a failure of the education system or perhaps a success of the education system. Exactly. In fact, if I could mention one thing, you know, Karl Marx believe that economic factors were going to drive history and bring about his class as a society. Then it comes along and says, okay, it's not going to be fast enough. Let's have revolution. When the 1930s, the founder of the Italian Marxist Communist Party, Agadim Antonio Gramsci, said that, you know, what we have to deal with is what he called the hegemony, the institutional

19:47structures that dominate. He says these things are so entrenched in culture in the West that you're not going to overthrow them through revolution. You have to infiltrate and you have to make these institutions Marxist then to bring about the revolution. So that's what we've seen happen in our country, especially the educational system. We have young people who go off to college and are trained in Marxist ideology and do not even recognize that their whole world view has changed. They come out, maybe not even really understanding what socialism and communism is, but having a very fable view of it because of the way they've been trained. Yeah. And they have no idea the reality, what's behind it that it always leads to death, a culture of death. And it's exactly why we're concerned about this attitude. A victor, let's talk about socialist or communist versus biblical world views. I want to start out with life because life is very important to a biblical worldview. Yes. And even to many people who don't necessarily claim that, but they know life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is a foundation of this country.

20:49Yep. Well, socialism in theory sometimes sounds good. It's supposed to be for the common good of the people. What always happens in any socialist state is the state becomes all consuming. The state becomes the most important thing is it always tends toward authoritarianism, totalitarianism. And because of that, because the state is what matters, the individual does that matter. So you can wipe out huge sections of your population and it was done in the interest of the state, then it's okay. For example, in China, especially under the cultural revolution, Mao Zedong probably killed 100 million people. It's estimated far more than what Hitler did. We don't hear about that. But always socialist systems tend to devalue individuals, tend to devalue human life itself, and everything exists for the purpose of the collective good, which is just simply

21:52euphemism for the state itself. We don't know much about North Korea, but we know enough to know what's going on in there that it's very, very bad. And again, we're seeing just a complete and want and disregard for the value of individual life and the way people are treated there. It's the stories coming out of there are just horrible. I've actually heard missionaries from North Korea speak in jobs I've worked at in Pass and missions work. And I mean, the people are starving to death. They don't have food. They're literally eating grass. They don't get some kind of nutrition into them. You know, one of the other things is interesting. Of course, there's a huge oppression of the church. And invariably in socialist systems, one of the things that always they turn against is religion itself and the church. And I don't know of a socialist regime that has not also been a persecutor of the church at the same time. So we should talk about that because that's on my list, faith, religion and socialism.

22:57They don't go together or they come in in certain places like I think they've done now in China with the Catholic church. And I think there's a financial arrangement going on where they're paying off and saying, you know, you can be the Catholic church which you have to do the way we want you to do it. And you know, for decades, the government in China has recognized an official church called the Three State Church. Some of those are legitimate Christian churches. Some are nothing but mouthpieces for the regime. They say in China, there is freedom of religion. The reality is, is the church is heavily persecuted. In fact, what you don't hear in the past several years, the persecution has probably been the grace has been since the cultural revolution. I mean, literally not only pastors and church leaders just disappear in some places, whole congregations have disappeared. You know, Marx famously said that religion is the opi to the people. It dulls our senses.

23:58It causes us not to think properly. To believe in God is anothetical to communism and socialism. And so, you know, when you have a regime that is socialistic in nature, it automatically is opposed to the Christian faith, the religion general because these are things that teach you to liberty of thought, liberty of conscience. And they don't want that. They want to be able to control everything in your life, including your thinking. They certainly do. And in these countries, you mentioned China. It's interesting because I know someone who's been to China, you probably know a lot of people, but somebody who went and distributed Bibles some years ago and was actually caught and let go with the wink and a nod because there was some favoritism shown just by some people, the Christian missionaries coming in. I'm not sure why that was, but it's certainly no longer the case. Yeah. Well, I haven't been to China, but I've been to Cuba. And I saw firsthand, I mean, let me say Cuba is a beautiful country. There are people who are incredible.

25:00But first of all, from a spiritual standpoint, there was a sense of spiritual oppression, demonic oppression everywhere in the country. The only place you feel free from that was when you enter into a pastor's home, which is also a church, because they're not allowed to be able to church buildings. We saw incredible oppression. We talked with pastors. For instance, one pastor I met and gotten to know it personally that they have tried to kill them several times. At one time, they took him out in the parking lot of the police station and ran him over the Jeep several times. We've heard stories of pastors being locked up in cells at night with bears and wild animals. I mean, just incredible oppression there. It was pervasive everywhere throughout the country. So I saw this firsthand. The oppression of the church, the persecution of the church, and also just economically and socially, the fact that socialism does not work.

26:03The economy in Cuba was horrendous. One of the most vivid memories I have is getting out of a car at a motel or a public facility and a meal being surrounded by, it was almost like a hive of bees around you of prostitutes. And all yelling at you at the same time, dig a mate, talk to me, talk to me. In other words, negotiate. And what pastors told us was that many of these prostitutes were professional people. They were doctors and lawyers and nurses and teachers because the economy was so horrible they could earn more in prostitution than they could doing a profession. That's a complete indictment. And I would say before we go to the break, just one more thing about this on the topic of faith is that in these countries, they are challenged by faith and religion because to them, government is God. And it takes care of you or doesn't give and take care of you. And they're looking for that same adulation and worship. We even see it, I think here in Charlottesville, there's certainly people who have the attitude that the government is the God. And I think that that attitude is one reason why it's becoming so popular, especially

27:08among young people, because we live in a society of entitlement. And we like the idea that the government is going to pay my rent, pay my college bills, pay me care of me, do everything for me. What again is the antithesis of a biblical world view. Well the Bible tells us if you don't work, you don't eat and there's a reason for that. There is dignity and self-worth and taking care of oneself and one's family and contributing to society in some way at the end of the day. You can look and say I did that or I made a change in something. If you don't have that, I think it creates not only entitlement but also resentment. Yep, I agree. All right, let's go to the break. We continue on the other side with Victor Morris from Truth Builders, Socialist, versus Biblical World Views. So much more to say. And there is a line open for you at 977-1070. Maybe you are on the City Council and you are a Democrat Socialist of America. We actually have one, if not more. You're welcome to call in and present your point of view. Stay with the Shilling Show. All right. The Shilling Show, continuing with Victor Morris from Truth Builders, a Socialist, versus

28:08Biblical World Views and some really interesting points of view here. Let's talk about private property which actually is under extreme threat already in America. And it's only going to get worse. You know, basic to socialism and communism itself is that everything should be held communally as the people as a whole that whole possessions have property. When you look at scripture, there is an undecurrent establishing private property, right to private property throughout scripture. If you think about it even in 10 commandments, the hour should not steal. All of the making implies somebody else possesses something you can take from them. Or even the 10th commandments, you should not cover it. It is so much the property of the other individual you are not even to desire it. When you look through the mosaic law, there are a lot of things written in the first five books of the Bible dealing with property rights.

29:08What do you do if you accidentally injure your neighbor's cow or livestock or do something you killed him? What about property rights? You know, when Israel went into the land of Canaan and they possessed the land, they divvied up the land among the tribes, clans and families. Those things were the possession of those individual families. They were so held in regard and respect for the rights of those families that God gives repeated commands, do not move boundary markers. In fact, there were severe penalties. If you moved a landmark, it marked off somebody else's property because that belonged to them. In fact, if you, somebody had to go in debt and sell part of the land, the year Jubilee it was returned to the family. There is this undecurrent old end New Testament. I think of the parable of Jesus where he said the kingdom of heaven is like a man who fell into treasure and in a field. So he went and he bought the field so he could get the treasure.

30:10Now we understand the purpose of the parable is to talk about spiritual things being all in for the kingdom, being able to give up whatever you need to give up. But implicitly, the parable itself is the man had a right to possess and own this property and whatever was owned up property became his personal property. So this idea that we have a right to personal individual property is scattered throughout the Older New Testament. There is another one I want to kind of step back to because we mentioned it kind of briefly in the last segment, but it has to do with distribution of what belongs to other people just handing things out. Yeah. You know, an associative system, the goal they are reaching for is that wealth is distributed equally among all people. Doctorate what that means is you have somebody who works a 40-year-old week works hard, where diligently is paid a certain amount. And so is the 35-year-old guy who's still living in home and not working at all, he's getting the same thing.

31:10Well, as you mentioned earlier, Paul says if a man does not work, he does not deserve to eat. Proverbs says all hard work brings profit. There is this idea in the scripture of what became called the purest and the Christian work ethic that you are blessed in life, you prosper in life by the hard work, the industry, you put into it yourself. And the idea that you do nothing but receive from the government, from the state, your income, your provisions, everything else is really again anothetical contrary to a biblical world view. Is there support for a constitutional style of government? Definitely. We look back at ancient Israel and they did have a monarchy, but a lot of people don't realize if you read what Moses said in the Book of Deuteronomy especially, and then what we saw practice sometimes among the kings of Judah was that when a king was anointed as king,

32:15one of the first things he was required to do was to read the law publicly and to pledge to uphold the law. In other words, the law of Moses was essentially the Constitution of ancient Israel and the king was not above that law. It was a rule of law. It was what Samuel Ruddford called Lex Rex, the law is king. So we see that repeatedly in the Old Testament, the rulers of the Southern Kingdom of Judah or the Northern Kingdom of Israel, violated the law of God that contained in Moses' writings that they were held culpable. They had to pay the penalty for that because the law of Moses was the Constitution of the country. So I think essentially a strong case we made that ancient Israel was a constitutional monarchy. There was a king anointed, called by God, but he operated under the authority of the law of God that had been instituted in the land. We got a couple minutes left with Victor Morris. I did want to touch on morality because one of the tactics of the socialist and communist

33:19in taking down America has been to undermine and successfully done our morality. Yeah, because, you know, for the socialist and communist, the end justifies the mean. Whatever you have to do to bring about the revolution that will institute the socialist state you want is acceptable. And that means if it's using pornography, it was causing immorality to grow in a country, it's taking human life, taking away property. It doesn't matter what it is, the state is the final goal and any means to achieve that socialist state is acceptable. So there's a whole new definition of morality. And that's one of the problems we see in our country today is morality has been redefined. If we need to do whatever we need to do to distribute wealth among all people, take away property rights established, the kind of society they want to establish, then that's okay. That in itself is a moral goal.

34:20Yeah, it's become relative as opposed to absolute. In other words, we had benchmarks. This is right. This is wrong. And now it's like, well, whatever you think is right is right. And that's certainly not a solid foundation. Yeah. When you have the state deciding morals as well as everything else because it's taking aside how you think as well as everything else in your life, there's no absolute standard that you live by. It's the whim of the leaders. It's the arbitrary choice of those who are in charge, what they want to impose. And we see this again going back to the schools where we started, Victor, we see them imposing arbitrary morality standards. I'll call them stands are actually no standards, but in complete contradiction to biblical worldview. And they're saying this is it. What we say is it and no other points of view are welcome here. I think one of the greatest dangers we're facing not only because it's issue of socialism, but in general in our culture, it is this redefinition morality.

35:24Because we rejected absolute moral standards, then what works but is functional for the moment is what is good and acceptable. Just about out of time, but if people would like to get in touch with you, find out more about the work you're doing at truth builders or maybe even have you come and speak before a group, tell us how please. Our website is truth dash builders.com or you can contact me through email and ministry, the letter number four, excuse me, truth ministry for truth at gmail.com. It was a very enlightening time together. Victor Morris, always appreciate your visits. Thanks for joining us on the show. Thank you so much. All right, let's go to the break news and weather at the top of the hour updates. We know it's hot. I'm not sure we need to know anything else, but be careful with all that. We'll come back on the other side with open phones at 977 1070, a brief rendition of the community town hall into hour number two. And then Bill Stanley will be with us as an attorney, a state senator as well. He's going to be talking about defending the Green County Sheriff's office and sheriff

36:26Steve Smith from these attacks from two bullets, shoot him up Jones in the AG's office. Unbelievable. What's going on? Stay with the Shilling Show. Hour number two of the Shilling Show freaky and free phone Friday edition of the program. Weekdays from noon to two is the place to be right here news radio 98 9 AM 1070 W I N A. Also visit online to shilling show.com or seville right now.com for the listen, live button where you could take the Shilling Show anywhere you go that has a good internet connection. If you want to get fancy, it's actually kind of easy and kind of cool. We have the W I a app where you can just listen with a touch of a button whenever it suits you, but certainly between the hours of noon and two. Don't forget our podcast, which are very important part of the program because you can enjoy again the things you heard or you can enjoy for the first time if you had to miss a moment of the Shilling Show. Just go to shillingshow.com, seville right now.com. There's a podcast button at the top of the page in each place and you could check it out.

37:29And download, save, visit us online at shillingshow.com for lots of other good and unique content as well. All right, the brief for addition of the community town hall commences momentarily at 977, 710, 70. Let me first tell you what's coming up in this hour of the program. We'll be talking with state Senator and attorney bill Stanley green County Sheriff's office versus AG shoot him up Jay Jones, the guy who wants to shoot children in their mother's arms and watch them die because they happen to be conservatives and political opponents in the family. Unreal that you have an electorate to put this guy into office, but it speaks to how sick the party of death, the Democrats and the culture of death are that they would vote for a guy who actually said that and things that are equally as bad. We'll get into all of that. Why AG shoot him up Jay Jones is going after Steve Smith and the green County Sheriff's office and why they have absolutely no basis to do so with bill Stanley coming up in a

38:31moment. David Callahan finishes out the program for us today collectors, the guardians of the physical and virtual worlds. And what does it mean to collect? What is the mentality of people who collect things? Is there a difference between collecting and hoarding? And by the way, can you collect things that are not tangible? In other words, can you collect digital like MP3s? Not sure it's very fun. I do see kind of a purpose in it, but it's a lot more fun, a lot more enjoyable to have something tangible like a CD or even a VHS tape. I know there are people that like the old school analog media will get into all that and the mentality and joys of collecting with David Callahan coming up at the bottom of the hour. Right now let's go to the phones and say hello to Mike, Mike, good afternoon. Good afternoon, Rob. Thank you. What's on your mind today? Watching the local and national news, they just talked about how terrible it is that diesel fuel prices are so high.

39:33Well in June of 22 under Joe Biden, diesel prices were 582. And as of today around the Charlestown area, a medium price is around. So it's 27 and a gallon cheaper than when Joe Biden was in office in 22, but you never heard all how bad it was in 2022. Now you know what's interesting is they claim the price has never been that high. I heard them on the ABC News this morning use that exact terminology. And they also use the word skyrocketing. I'll bet you in the time when Biden was in there, the price is inching up. You know how they use language depending on who they're talking about. Yeah, it's the same way with climate change. You know, they say, oh, it's so hot and they put all the, when they put to screen up everything on it's blood, ridge and no, to make you want to go crawl under bush somewhere. And then actually I'll say, well, the record was set. But he back in 1930 something.

40:34Right. I mean, come on, man. Yeah. He's got a lot of people who wrote Joe Biden. Come on, man. It is interesting what they think people will believe. But unfortunately we're in a society that's mesmerized by TikTok and Facebook and Reels and Instagram and Snapchat and all of that. They have no idea what you and I are talking about or even that we're having the conversation because they're completely immersed in their own world. So when you say, come on, man, they don't even know who said that or what you're referring to. I know the thing only one of the local news channels I was watching last night, they were talking about Elon Musk, the money he's going to give, pack money he's going to give for the midterm. Yeah. Like it was a worse thing and it never happened to, they never say anything about the billions and billions of George Soros and given, they never mentioned his name. That's kind of strange. Isn't I've never heard them talking about him except when he got the president, didn't he get the medal of honor from Biden speaking of Biden? I thought he honored George Soros with a major national honor.

41:35And I mean most of the billionaires really give them money. I'll give them to their Democratic party, you know, Gates and Soros and Bloomberg and just go right down the list and majority of the billionaires I'll see giving money to people of Democrats. Yeah, exactly right. It's just, you know, you listen to the news and you just, you kind of want to jump off a bridge, so to speak because they're so far in the tank for the left. They're so deceptive in the words that they use and most people are not equipped to find that or to catch that. I think if some of these young reporters would accidentally say something good about Trump on air here locally, they'd probably be fired the next day. That would be the end of their career, right? Right. Well, some people would be forced to listen to it if they, if they threw it into the show show anyway. Well, we hope they do. Okay. Thanks, Rob. Mike, thank you very much. Yes. My memory did serve me well here. This is going to the times of Israel, but it's all over the place. Biden awards George Soros, the presidential Medal of Freedom.

42:39You know, I'm thinking that maybe Donald Trump should have retired the Medal of Freedom at that point and renamed it. He's good at renaming things and maybe renamed it because it was completely solid by giving it to George Soros. This is a story from January of 2025, Jewish billionaire and liberal mega donor gets top US civilian honor along with 18 others, drawn condemnation from conservative circles. It should have been more than that condemning it. What an outrage. What a desecration of the presidential medal of freedom. All right. Let's go to the break a little bit early. We want to get Bill Stanley with us because I've got a lot to talk about with him. Oh, by the way, don't forget to visit us online. www.chillingshow.com. There's a lot of ways to be in touch with us. And I'd love to hear from the listening audience. I have been putting out calls for assistance for guests on our 9-11 special, which is one week from today. And I had to put it up on Facebook as well as put it out over the radio.

43:42I did get a bunch of responses and I'm trying to go through them in order of priority, like who responded first and reach out. So I'm pretty sure that that is covered at this point because I had at least four or five people who have reached out and said, Hey, we'd love to do it. And I really appreciate it. I understand how difficult it is for people to recount what they witnessed in a situation like that, which is something beyond imagination in many cases. And we've talked over the years with people who had never shared the stories before and people who were completely devastated for years, sometimes for decades by what they saw. They just can't get over it. And I could certainly understand, I don't know how you'd ever get past seeing some of those horrendous things. I'm traumatized just by looking at the pictures of the jumpers and those are horrible, horrible scenes when you think about what somebody was faced with. I'm either going to be incinerated in the building or I'm going to jump out of the building and meet a horrible death. And you see these people just flying through the air knowing that they launched themselves

44:45to escape what they considered to be a worse death. This are 9-11 special, which will take place and we dedicate the entire two hours every time we're on the air on 9-11. It's hard to believe the 25th anniversary and really had to base the countries become in the interim to elect somebody like Mom Donnie as the mayor of New York thinking about the history of that place and what happened on September 11th. All right, let's go to the break. We'll talk to Bill Stanley on the other side. Stay with us. I'm going to cut up in the bumper music, letting it play out a little longer as one of our deputy community watch sharks suggested. I'm so into the music. Could you let it go just a little bit longer? Well, I'm tempted to do that. Sometimes I get so enthralled by the song. I'd like to hear the whole thing. We clearly can't do that. You know, I once had a concept that I was going to do a show called The Best Songs You've Never Heard and we've got a bunch of those in the bumper rotation. They really, really obscure things from years ago.

45:47I never got to that show and now that we're not able to really include the music as a part of the show because of licensing, I could never get away with it. We couldn't have a show like that. But it was a dream of mine at one time to do the best songs you've never heard and then have like little back stories behind each one of the songs. Maybe I'll do that in a podcast and probably couldn't get away with it there either. All right, coming up at the bottom of the hour, we're going to be talking with David Callahan about the guardians of physical and virtual worlds also known as collectors. And we will be talking about people who collect things, what they collect, what is the psychology of collecting things and what is the difference between collecting and hoarding? I know a lot of people claim to be collectors, but you'd look at what they have and say, is there really any order in it? We'll get into all of that coming up again at the bottom of the hour. Well whenever we have a guest who doesn't show up, I always say number one, this is live radio. So you never know what's going to happen, but I also say I hope they're okay. I hope everything's okay because it could be conceivable sometimes that somebody had

46:50a car accident which happened one time years ago. I was in there Stanley. Okay, so we're not going to get that. It happened one time years ago that I had a guest on the program who didn't show up. It was sunny Johnson. If you remember her, it was a young female black conservative years ago during the Obama years. She just didn't show up to the interview. And then I found out later that she actually had been in the car accident. She was okay, but I always give different. So Senator Stanley is sick and unable to join us today. So we'll see if we can get him on some other time. Album all voters to weigh one cent sales tax for school construction. This fall, this propaganda being sent out by the government schools in Album all county. That's nothing but pure propaganda would raise the local sales tax rate to help fund a backlog of school building needs says, who? Let's get into this. Let's just dive in here since we have an open segment and I wanted to get to it. In fact, I had a colleague walk in the studio here. I'm not going to say whom, but from another one of our sister stations saying, I hope you

47:51get to the tax. I said, I've been hitting this sales tax hard. And she said, good for you because I'm just sick of this place stealing money from us. But let's continue. Album all county voters will decide November 3rd, whether to let the county add a penny to the local sales tax and the money able to be used only for building and renovating public schools. Government schools are a bad investment. They have been for a long time. Not a penny more, not one penny. And by the way, this is mobocracy because it's whatever majority of the voters could be 50% plus one will never have a 50% turnout. But it might be 18% plus one, whatever the turnout is that wins the day. This is mobocracy. This is a bunch of cowardly people on the board of stupid visors who will just turn it over to the voters. We'll just turn it over to the voters and let them decide. Then they'll be the blood will be on their hands if you don't like it. Now we're putting it on your hands. You should have kept it off the ballot. Very, very cowardly board of stupid visors, silly council.

48:54This is coming from the Amar County school board, which again has absolutely no credibility. The board of stupid visors voted unanimously. That's key because it shows you they're all on the same page. They're all crooked. Put the question on the ballot following a change in state law that allows cities and counties in Virginia, the option to seek revenues for quote unquote needed school construction projects needed school construction projects. Give me a red pen. I'll save you the money. I'll find out how to make it work. If approved the county sales tax rate would raise, they call it a penny from 5.3% to 6.3%. By the way, and thank you to Gary Grant for doing the math, that's an 18% plus plus plus increase. That's an 18% increase in your sales tax. Let's do the math. I guess they're figuring most of the people in the listening audience will be sucker enough that they won't do the math and figured out their taxes are being jacked up by 18% plus.

49:58Thank you, Gary Grant. A yes vote would not, now listen to this stupid paragraph put in by the schools. A yes vote would not put the tax in place right away. It would simply give the board of stupid visors the authority to adopt an ordinance quote unquote allowing them to levied the tax. Well then why would you even promote it if it simply gives them the option? They're clearly advocating for it here. This is ridiculous language. As if they're not going to do it, is that what you want us to believe that it simply gives them the option? They've already stated and voted unanimously to put it on the ballot. Of course they'll say yes. How stupid do you think we are? Maybe you think we're all products of your education, of your government education system, in which case I would believe a paragraph like that because I would be dumbed down. A yes vote would not put the tax in place right away. It would simply give the board of stupid visors which they don't say voted unanimously to put on the ballot and is endorsing it. The authority to adopt an ordinance allowing them.

51:00So there's three levels there giving them the authority to adopt an ordinance that would allow them as if they're not going to vote yes on that unanimously. And then they say state law requires at least 120 days to pass between that and the ordinance and the tax taking effect. Oh, we should feel relieved. We'll have 120 days to load up on essentials where we don't have to pay the 18 point whatever percent tax increase. By law, the revenue can be used only for school construction, renovation and related debt payments. But the problem is that these funds are fungible. So then they can use the funds they would have used for school construction, renovation, debt payments. They can use those in other ways. It's all a dog and pony show. It's a show game. The one sent sales tax increase, no, it's actually an 18% increase would automatically expire in June of 2046 unless the voters renew it into future referendum. Is that also supposed to make us feel better?

52:01Many people listening right now won't be here then. Well, we should feel better that will automatically expire. It should never be put into place. They county officials estimate the tax would generate, I say, steal at least $20 million a year from the local economy. I say through though the figure would rise and fall. So they're going to take $20 million out of the pockets of local merchants, people selling services here and products in Al-Maw County because once the government has it, they can't use it. People can't use it to buy things. So you're just taking money out of the economy, you crooks. Al-Maw County government schools currently has a list of capital needs estimated over $500 million. This is an indictment of the Democrats who have been running the school board for years and years and the board of supervisors for years and years as well. This is an absolute indictment of them. If you have allowed $500 million worth of necessary repairs to a crew, you have not been doing your job. You've been derelict that never should have happened that way.

53:04You've been spending money on frivolous things like DEI and environmental departments and all of this sorts of nonsense and waste at the expense of every single hardworking taxpayer in Al-Maw County. And then you have the nerve to come to us and say you have $500 million of deferred maintenance and repairs. You're crooked to the core and you're completely incompetent and you have been for a long time. And by the way, this lays mostly at the hands of Democrats who have been in control of this county for a good long time. It's your fault and you're going to continue to reward them for their poor ability to run the county, whether it's the board of supervisors of the school board who work in collusion with one another, you're going to reward them with more money so they can quote unquote, invested on us even more so. Ah, please spare me, spare me. Vote no. Vote hell no. If there was a box that said hell no, vote hell no. This is just crooked and corrupt and it's another indicator that the people who are

54:06running the local government are beyond incompetent and they think you're beyond stupid. All right, stay with the showings. We've got to go to the break. Cool. The heel's a little bit coming back with David Callahan and collectors, the guardians of the physical and virtual worlds. Stay with us. Ah, that one brings back memories. That was one of the runner-up songs for the showings show theme song back when we were conceiving the program along with peace of mind by Boston and eventually taking it to the streets, which one, but no more Mr. Nice guy was up there. Those with the top three. All right, let's go now to DJO David Callahan, award-winning journalist, author of the new book, Collectors, the Guardians of the Physical and Virtual Worlds, a fascinating topic we've never covered here in all of 20 years. David Callahan, welcome to the Shilling Show. Thank you, Rod. Thanks for having me. I tell us how you were inspired to write about Collectors. Well, I used to be a editor of a magazine called Smart CEO Magazine and I did a profile

55:15on this guy named Steve Jepi, who was just avert collector. He eventually opened the museum of comic books and childhood toys and stuff like that across from Ken and the artist here in Baltimore. And here's just a real character of a guy and I started to think about writing the book and he encouraged me to do it and it doesn't have to go off from there. Are you a collector of anything? Yeah, books. Books are an interesting one and probably one of the most eclectic because people have their collections of books and they absolutely love them. I'm curious about what collecting does, what's the psychology behind collecting? Well, people collect for various reasons but the main thing is it's a jogger of memory.

56:21So, but people collect music, songs remind them of various points of their life where they were doing something or their music collections are like a jogger of memory. So, the memories of the things that they were doing and people collect for baseball cars because they have passion because they're passionate about the game of baseball or they collect guitars because they're passionate about music. I mean, really collecting is about human passion and what we're passionate about. Now, I've seen people who collect things and they buy them new in the box.

57:23I'm thinking of like toy cars or things like that and they never take them out. Is there diminished joy from getting things that you never really get to use or in the case of toys you never get to play with? I always found that interesting. I understand that's probably a value proposition but is it really something that you're connected to if you can't even touch it? Yeah, that's an interesting question. I don't really think so. I think that you want to keep things pristine because you want to have a desire to keep it in the best possible condition you can. But that's the difference between collecting to speculate on something and collecting to use it. And sometimes people do that because they see things going away and in order for something

58:26to become collectible, I go through a period of being tossed and hated and discarded and then the fear that remained become collectible. I was thinking about my own guitar collection. I don't have a whole lot of guitars but I do have some guitars that I like. But I couldn't fathom not playing them except for one. I have one guitar that's signed by Eddie Van Halen Graham Nash and David Crosby and there has providence to it and I would never take that in play it just because it is a collectible. So I can kind of see both sides having things that you want to use and the guitars that I use I take exceptional care of them and they're all in new condition but they are used and the other one which is a unique situation I would probably never use it again publicly because of the value of it. Right. I have the very first Harpeji which is a tap against them in similar to a guitar.

59:27Yes. Jim Meeks who makes the Harpeji here in Seigsville, Maryland was getting ready to release this and I gave him some seed money in order to get going with it and he gave me the first one and Eddie Van Halen was someone he had just gotten the back from. Eddie Van Halen. I told him he could lend it out to artists and use it for as long as he wanted to show it around and Eddie Van Halen was the last guy to use it. I'm curious if you could help us draw the line I'm sure this is a great area between collecting and hoarding because I've seen people that kind of claim that they're collectors but they just have what appears to be a bunch of junk without a lot of value.

1:00:27So how do you actually distinguish between those two groups? Yeah. Well, my definition of hoarding is if you have something in every room of your house, whether it's books, magazines, pens, sunglasses, earrings, hair bands, whatever, if you supply as always with arms reach you've begun to enter the hoarding zone. That's a good thing to know. Go ahead. And hoarding is just an attempt to gain control over what we think about but the biggest hoarders are the institutions. Give us an example. People have a hoarding problem.

1:01:31They hoard digital data like some believeable and they're building on these data centers and everything and this race to hoard data and the iPhone changed. Collecting tremendously, it's gone through a period of change we're undergoing now with digital data where the iPhone is a very powerful collection device and it was introduced in 2007 and it just took off and all your photographs, all your music, all your touch-your-communications, Pokemon characters on Pokemon Go, you name it, you can collect it on your phone and

1:02:38sort of the way to collect. It's certainly different and the thing that I think about that, David Callahan, is that it's not tangible and understand the ease, it's so nice to have all the pictures there you can search by keywords and find something from a particular year much easier than going through books of pictures. But it can also go poof, I suppose a book of pictures could burn up but it's more tangible but this could go poof and it would be gone and in some cases where people haven't backed things up, it's just gone forever or if the phone gets stolen and it's not backed up, it's a very interesting dichotomy. The ease of use in collecting something so easily and cataloging it versus the nature

1:03:39of it which is transient. Yeah, the problem with collecting digital data is that it can go get buried or get lost. I call the new lost data trial bites because you go and collect, let's say you're on Google Maps and you look at it back yard and you go, look, they took a picture of when I had a barbecue in my backyard and then you go, I want to show someone a couple years later I do that barbecue in my backyard and then you look and they've updated the picture

1:04:44and now it's a picture of from a couple years ago and you don't know where that picture exists. It exists but you don't know where it is and those are trial bites, those are the things that you know exist out there in the digital wonderland but have become lost to you or to people. They exist some sort of somewhere but you have no idea where. I'm guessing trial bites means trying to locate or is that just a coincidence? It's a term I coined for stuff buried beneath the straight up. Let's go to the break. We have one saying minute head. We're talking with DJO David Callahan, award winning journalist and author of collectors,

1:05:45the guardians of physical and virtual worlds. We come back on the other side with the final segment of the Shilling Show for today. Stay with us. All right. The Shilling Show heading into the final segment for today with our guest DJO David Callahan, award winning journalist and author of collectors, the guardians of physical and virtual worlds. And we're talking about all things collecting. This one was interesting to me as I think about it, things that are collectible today but somehow become irrelevant or because there's generational amnesia that subsequent generations have no idea what it is and don't remember it as a kid and therefore it has no value to them. Do those things still have value even though the generational recognition isn't there? Yeah. You know, in the New York Public Library there's about 150 feet of shelf space for this woman

1:06:47who collected menus. And menus are something that go from readily available to dawn in a very short period of time. And it's a treasure trove of information about what we used to eat in the turn of the last century. The 1900s to she collected the 1900s. And she collected from all the lunch rooms, from all the great dominoes and all the great restaurants. And there was nobody who did this in Europe. And so we don't know what they were eating in Europe but we know what they were eating in here because of her.

1:07:49Yeah, it's an interesting example and I can see how that would have generational relevance because people continue to eat. I think what would probably be disconcerting about that day but is looking at the prices and seeing what we have to pay for the same thing today that we were paying back in the day. Pretty scary. There's a concept that's been going around for the past maybe 10 years. We heard the term you will own nothing and be happy. And people be happy without owning anything or collecting anything just existing free of burdens of having a physical stewardship. Yeah, you know it's funny. There's these, they're called minimalists and there are people who try to own nothing but they own digital data. They make an exception for their laptops and their computers and their phones.

1:08:55And I would argue that they're just collecting what's fashionable which is digital data. So, you know, only nothing, it's truly or nothing you would have to give up the digital data and I don't think they're willing to do that. Yeah, that's an asterisk. The thing that bothers me and I want to bring this to get your opinion on about digital data is it's subject to change. So I always get concerned when there's a movie or something available for streaming that's maybe from the 40s or 50s that has content that's not culturally acceptable today that they would go back and edit it out. And I know there have been examples of changes made to those which is why I always try to have a VHS or a DVD if it's something I value because who knows who could get in there the digital overlords and change it. Is that concern you?

1:09:55Yeah, Scott, with cartoons, you've seen... I think the original cartoons should be saved and preserved and not messed with. But there's a lot of LiniTunes cartoons that don't get shown or included in the collections of the cartoons because they were too racist or whatever. You mentioned in the title of your book the Guardians of the Physical and Virtual Worlds. Who are the Guardians and what is their motivation? Well the Guardians are the collectors themselves. They keep things from disappearing and keep things from just going into the junk heap.

1:11:09I remember I was at a collecting show and this lady said, oh you're writing a book on a collecting? She said my husband wrote a book about his pencil collection and I almost had the last I was like, really? But it was quite serious. They were silver smiths and he had collected all these beautiful silver smith made pencils that were at the apex of the time of using pencils. He had photographed them and put them into this beautiful book and he'd gone to great hair to document the evolution of the pencil. Well it's a micro market but certainly also I think anybody who spends time documenting

1:12:14something that's important even if it's a small group of people deserves credit for that. We're just about out of time, DJO, David Callahan. If people want to get a copy of your book, collectors, the Guardians of the Physical and Virtual World's work and they find the book. Amazon or Barnes and Noble, books and millions. Anywhere just look on their David Callahan, collectors and you'll find it. Congratulations on taking on a very interesting subject and having good points of view surrounding it. I appreciate you joining us today on the Shilling Show, David. Thank you Rob. Yes indeed. That's going to wrap up today's edition of the Shilling Show back here not on Monday because we are observing Labor Day on Monday by not working. Actually I've got a lot of stuff to catch up on. So I will be working just not here. In the meantime, visit us online at ShillingShow.com, send me an email to RobSatSeevo right now.com and give us a call or a text 247-218-2349.

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