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The demand for power is growing, but the grid can't handle it. Now, the governors of 11 Western states are trying to move forward with a $60 billion plan to upgrade transmission lines. Joel Ferry, Utah’s commissioner of the Department of Natural Resources, joins us to explain what the plan would do.
Then, many teachers say performance pay unfairly pits teachers against one another. But two new studies say it could benefit students. Chalkbeat’s Matt Barnum breaks down the controversy.
And, The Hollywood Reporter's Gary Baum shares what he found in an investigation into Objection, a tech startup backed by Peter Thiel that holds artificial intelligence tribunals to scrutinize journalism.
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Then, many teachers say performance pay unfairly pits teachers against one another. But two new studies say it could benefit students. Chalkbeat’s Matt Barnum breaks down the controversy.
And, The Hollywood Reporter's Gary Baum shares what he found in an investigation into Objection, a tech startup backed by Peter Thiel that holds artificial intelligence tribunals to scrutinize journalism.
See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.
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