The Murder of Michael Cochran (Maine)

0:00There's something about being out in nature that makes the world feel a little quieter, but sometimes even the most peaceful places have stories that refuse to stay hidden. That's what my friend Delia Deambre explores on park predators. Each week she investigates true crime cases set against the world's most beautiful landscapes. Going beyond the headlines, Delia speaks with loved ones, digs through records, and sometimes visits the places where the stories unfolded. If you're ready to uncover the mysteries that linger beneath breathtaking scenery, listen to park predators every Tuesday, wherever you get your podcasts. On an ordinary winter night in 1981, danger was moving through the Bangor main area in three different directions at once. A bar room dispute was followed by a deadly blaze. A drug sting was underway at a nearby apartment complex. In a few miles away, a lakeside cabin would be reduced to smoldering rubble before sunrise.

1:04None of those events appeared connected as they unfolded, but the first fire would pull investigators away from the second. Some of the names in the sting later surfaced in the cabin orsin, and before anyone knew what or rather who was lying in the ruins, the course of a homicide investigation had already irrevocably changed. I'm Kylie Lowe, and this is the case of Michael Cochran, on Dark Down East. It all started at 6.35 pm on February 17, 1981, when Bangor police were called to the tavern on Main Street. According to AJ Higgins' reporting for the Bangor Daily News, patrons reported that an argument between a man and a woman had become physical. Police cleared the scene, only four fire crews to receive a call to the same address later

2:06that night. Someone had poured an accelerant in the hallway outside residences above the bar and set it on fire. Firefighters began battling the blaze at 9.09 pm. Three people died from smoke inhalation that night. See Eddins, Donald Morrell, and Patricia J. Oaks. Meanwhile just a few miles away, 28-year-old Percy Cody walked out of the back door of an apartment at Greenwood Gardens in Holden, carrying a package containing a pound of pot. People waiting in the car had arranged to buy 10 pounds that night, and shortly before midnight the remaining 9 pounds were delivered. What Percy apparently did not know was that his customers were undercover narcotics agents with the Division of Special Investigations, and the deal was in fact a sting. The agents arrested Percy Cody and two others. 31-year-old David Dupre and another man also named Percy, Percy Sargent.

3:07Cut to a few hours later, at 3.51 am on February 18, and a few miles away from the scene of that sting. A woman's eyes were drawn to a cabin on Sumac Road in the Lucerne main section of Dettam. She dialed the Dettam Fire Department as she watched the flames grow bigger and brighter by the second. Fire Chief Norman Heron reached the property by 3.55 am, and the log cabin was already fully involved. Flames were coming through the roof, the windows were gone, and the interior was heavily burning. Chief Heron had fought other fires in Lucerne's log cabins, and this one did not behave like the accidental fires he had seen. These structures definitely burned, but they did not ordinarily become consumed this quickly. As Heron surveyed the property, trying to understand what he was looking at, movement near the woodline caught his attention. Here's Chief Heron himself in a recorded deposition.

4:08I caught a view of an individual departing from the rear of the fire structure. That individual gave it as impossible to identify the individual accurately, because after all the February it was dark. The only light that was available was up from the burning camp, and I saw him. He thought it was a young man with either dark hair or something dark covering his head. The figure was moving quickly. He seemed to be doing something with his hands as he was moving away from the burning structure. I would like on that to an individual who is washing their hands. But again, that was a very brief view that I had. Assistant fire Chief Elmer Alto, who was also a Hancock County deputy sheriff, arrived

5:10at the scene, and Chief Heron sent him after the figure's tracks while the rest of the department worked to suppress the fire. Alto followed the mystery man's trail through the woods until it disappeared near Route 1A. The whole thing stunk of something suspicious. About 30 feet from the burning cabin Chief Heron found two five-gallon gasoline cans. One was nearly full. The other contained approximately one gallon and had no cap. Combining the gas tank of the individual leaving the scene and the rapid extent of the burn of the structure, I immediately arrived at the decision that this is probably an awesome fire. The probable arson warranted an assessment by state fire inspector Wilbert Ricker. He was already called to the fatal fire in Bangor. He stopped only briefly at the dead-em scene on his way to Bangor, arriving around 5.50 am.

6:10He viewed the tracks through the woods, steps made by two boots left and right foot, trailing through the snowy surface. Now there was a growing concern that this fire was the result of arson, but no one at the scene believed the cabin had been occupied when it burned. With three confirmed deaths in Bangor, that investigation had to take priority. So Ricker left for Bangor, and Heron secured the two gasoline cans until Ricker could take custody himself and transport them for potential analysis. Inspector Ricker did return to the dead-em property after dark that same day, but could not conduct a meaningful examination. Days passed before he and another investigator were finally able to go back in daylight and began working through what remained of the cabin. By then, the fire had been out for nearly a week, what it had left behind was still waiting in the rubble. On February 24, 1981, six days after the cabin and dead-em burned, fire inspector Wilbert

7:13Ricker returned to Sumac Road with main state police corporal Alan Jamison. I have photos in the show notes at darkdowneast.com if you want to see it for yourself. The cabin itself was gone. Its walls had fallen outward, leaving behind a flattened field of burned logs, metal, ash, and debris. You can see in the photos that the stone and block fireplace is the only part that remains upright, while everything else around it is black and charred in total ruin. While examining the area near the front entrance, Ricker saw something. Ricker in a recorded deposition.

8:13The remains were lying face down near what would be the front entrance, close to where the door would have swung. There was ash and metal debris over the body. He noticed that beneath the body, light-colored flooring remained clean and unburned, along with pieces of broken glass. In Ricker's opinion, the unburned floor beneath the remains indicated that the person had been lying there before the fire began. The condition of the body raised several concerns. Ricker had investigated fatal fires for decades and he believed the remains were far more severely burned than he would ordinarily expect in a one-story building where the body was exposed to open air, rather than buried in a deep bed of burning debris. Considering the extent of the burns, the gasoline found nearby on the night of the fire, and the way that cabin had burned, he believed it was more likely than not that an accelerant had been applied directly to the body. But to clarify, that was Ricker's expert interpretation of the fire damage, not a laboratory

9:16planning. Ricker remained at the property standing guard while Jamison was a way making calls to the medical examiner. That's when Ricker heard the tell-tale sounds of tires on gravel and turned to see a green car coming up the road. Two men stepped out of the vehicle and began walking toward the ruins, but Ricker stepped into view and stopped them before they got too close. According to the note he made at the time, they identified themselves as Percy Sargent and Lionel Clormier. Both men said they knew David DePray, whose family owned the cabin. Lionel said he had attended parties there and left a pair of skis behind. Percy said he had done some work at the property and had been to parties there as well. Ricker later described both men as appearing startled when he emerged in uniform. He did not tell them what had just been found. He only said he was investigating the fire and that they could not approach the ruins. Six days had passed since the cabin burns and as Ricker put it, their sudden appearance

10:19just didn't look right. Unfortunately, when they left, the driver backed the green car all the way down the road, preventing Ricker from recording its license plate. But he had their names and he passed those names and the details of the encounter to the investigators who arrived afterward. By late afternoon, investigators were working from the possibility that the remains were those of 24-year-old Michael Cochran. Now what first led them to his name isn't entirely clear. A Penobscot County Sheriff's Department document referenced in the book A Main Murder written by Michael's mother, Leola Cochran, indicates the District Attorney's Office had reported Michael dead by about 4 p.m. Then, at 430, DEA agent Herbsossier contacted investigators with another lead. He had received a call from an individual named Richard Sargent, who had told him the body in the cabin, was Michael Cochran. A surgical scar on the body apparently supported the initial identification, so investigators

11:23operated on the assumption that the remains did belong to Michael. However, according to records later obtained by Leola Cochran, final dental confirmation was not completed until June 15, almost four months after the fire. Michael Examiner Dr. Ronald Roy ultimately determined that Michael died from inhaling carbon monoxide and other products of combustion. Testing found a carbon monoxide saturation level of 46 percent in Michael's blood, supporting the conclusion that he was alive during the fire. Cocaine was also detected in his system. So, Michael had died in the fire according to the medical examiner's findings, but Michael's initial death certificate listed the investigation as pending. For a time, Leola was led to believe her son's death had been accidental. It would be months before the official record reflected what investigators had already begun to suspect. Michael's death was a homicide.

12:24The condition of the cabin and evidence at the scene suggested this was much more than someone who was simply trapped in an accidental blaze. Following a full investigation at the cabin, fire inspector Wilbur Ricker found clean window glass outside the cabin and noted that the walls had fallen outward. Because the glass had not accumulated soot before breaking, he believed the windows had been blown out early in the fire. Taken together, those conditions were consistent with a vapor explosion, rather than a slow fire spreading from one point of origin. The front entrance offered another clue. The closing apparatus on the exterior door was locked in the open position, and the hinges from the interior door were also found open. Corporal Jameson believed that the open door would have created a draft, pulling more air into the cabin and feeding the fire. There were also those two gas cans found at the scene. Ricker later found a third 5-gallon can near the elevated back door.

13:25It all suggested Arson that the fire was intentionally set. The arson finding and homicide ruling opened the flood gates to questions. Why was the fire set? Did whoever started it, no Michael was inside, was he the intended target? The deeper investigators looked into the circumstances of Michael's life, the more danger they found. Michael Craig Cochran was the son of Leola and Darrell Cochran Sr. In much of the reporting of this case through the years, his name is spelled M-I-C-H-E-A-L, a non-traditional spelling. Leola told me that Michael himself unofficially changed the spelling in some context, and she chose to honor that for many years.

14:26But legally, his name is spelled M-I-C-H-A-E-L, and that's how she wishes to spell his name for this story. Michael and his siblings spent the first part of their childhood on a potato farm in a ristic county before the family moved south to the Bangor Brewer area. From the time Michael was young, Leola could see that learning came much harder for him than it did for his siblings. He was held back a grade, teased by other children, and struggled to keep pace in a time when his school offered little specialized support. Some mornings, when the school bus arrived, Michael grabbed onto his mother because he wanted to stay home. Maybe because at home, he was surrounded by people who loved him and wanted to help. Especially his older sister, Coralie. He and his sister, Coralie, they were very close. I skill in my mind, and save my life on the hardwood flooring and the living room to the tool that's almost hitting together, coloring in their coloring books.

15:30She was good with night, she tried to help him. Michael began running away while he was still in elementary school. By his early teen years, he had also begun using drugs and stealing. At 15, he stopped attending school and started spending longer stretches on the road, hitchhiking wherever someone would take him. When he was 17, he made it all the way to California. He called home along the way, and Leola traced his progress on a map. She never knew when he might leave again or when he would return. But the nights, such as me and on the highway were difficult. I didn't sleep much. I'd get up in the night. Some nights I'd get up in his backpack and re-bag the door. He had come home and gone to bed. According to Eric Russell's 2017 reporting for the main Sunday telegram, Michael's first conviction followed a residential burglary. Juvenile detention did not break his pattern, though, and further offenses involving theft,

16:30forgery, and a stolen car followed. There's no way to soften that history, but there's also no way to understand Michael exclusively through a list of charges. He had struggled since childhood, learned to escape by leaving, and increasingly relied on drugs as his world narrowed around him. In 1976, Michael stole money from someone involved in drug dealing and began receiving threats against his life. He left Maine but was arrested in Nevada and returned to the state. Authorities offered him a deal if he provided information about the dealer he had stolen from, but Michael refused. He served six months, was released, re-offended, and returned to prison for another 18 months. Then in March of 1980, police seized large amounts of pot, infetimines, and LSD from a brewer apartment and determined that Michael was involved in selling them. After that arrest, Michael came home one night and told his mother something she'll never

17:32forget. He said, you know my mom, I'm addicted to cocaine and I hate my life. Leola promised that if Michael sought help, she would stand by him. She would never abandon her son no matter what, but Michael resisted it. Leola believed that after years of falling behind, he had come to view needing or accepting help as another sign he was deficient in some way. Less than his brothers, sister, or peers, Michael never felt like he measured up. In late November of 1980, Michael was convicted on two drug charges and indicted in connection with an assault from the previous month. On December 3rd, a judge sentenced him to five years in prison. The sentence scared him. He didn't want to go back to state prison. So he ran from the courthouse before he could be taken into custody. While Michael was a fugitive, his girlfriend, Linda, brought Leola a letter from him.

18:34Michael wrote that he knew running had been wrong, but he could not imagine surviving five years at the state pen. He wanted to hold onto his freedom as long as he could. Leola didn't know where her son had gone during that time on the run. She later learned that he had left Maine, possibly with Linda before eventually returning. By February of 1981, Michael was hiding at the cabin on Sumac Road in Datum, owned by David DePraise Mother. He was avoiding prison and spending time with people connected to a local drug network. Michael admitted that he hated the life he was living. Somewhere beneath the arrests, the running, and the choices that had narrowed his world, he understood that he needed a way out, but he would not have the chance to find one. On the final night of his life, the people around Michael would become central to one of the most tangled homicide investigations in Maine. One of the last people known to have seen Michael before the fire was his girlfriend, Linda.

19:36Linda gave statements to police on February 24th and March 3rd, 1981. She said she arrived at the cabin between 7 and 730 on the evening of February 17. Michael was there with two men, Percy Sargent, and Paul Pollard. He already heard Percy Sargent's name because he was arrested earlier on the same night of the fire in that drugsting in Holden. Linda told police that Percy left the cabin around 11pm, apparently to take part in the deal that ended with his arrest. Shortly after Percy left, Linda said she and Michael went upstairs to the loft. She wanted her to stay the night, but she had to work the next morning so she decided to leave. When Linda walked out at approximately 12.30am, she claimed that the other guy, Paul Pollard, was still lying on the couch in the living room. She said Michael locked the door behind her. It was the last time she saw him alive. According to Linda's account, Paul was the only other person known to be inside the cabin

20:41with Michael after she drove away. Paul Pollard gave his first detailed statement to investigators on March 3rd. According to notes of the interview from the investigating officers, Paul never denied being at the cabin, but he consistently denied killing Michael or setting the fire. Paul said that sometime around midnight, he moved from the living room to a sleeping bag on a lawn chair in the back bedroom. That differed from Linda's last observation of him asleep on the couch in the living room. Wherever he was sleeping, according to Paul, something woke him between 3 and 4am but he fell back asleep. The next time he woke, he said he heard a buzzing noise, had trouble breathing, and saw the lights go out. He realized the cabin was on fire. Paul said he escaped barefoot through the back door of the cabin, which was missing a staircase and was at least four feet from the ground. He claimed he circled around to the front and saw

21:41the cabin and nearby trees burning. With his feet hurting in the snow, he said he went back inside for his boots and socks. He said he lost one boot during his second escape, though, and the heat of the fire prevented him from turning back for it, so he tied his shirt around his bare foot instead. Paul said he hid in the woods until they liked, then used the phone at a nearby house to call his half-brother, Lionel Clormier. According to Paul, Lionel picked him up, and the two briefly returned to the cabin before driving to East Corinth and later to the home of the Sargent family in Winterport. Sargent, as in Richard Sargent, the man who reportedly contacted a DEA agent to say the body in the cabin might be Michaels. This case is about to get complicated, fast, so let's go over the names you've already heard and are about to hear a lot more because the same network of people keeps resurfacing around nearly every part of the case. David DePrae's mother owned the cabin that burned,

22:46and David had been arrested alongside Percy Sargent in the Holden Drug operation only hours before the fire. Percy had been at the cabin earlier that night with Paul Pollard, Linda, and Mike. Poll remained there after Linda left. Lionel Clormier picked Paul up afterward, according to Paul. Richard Sargent, Percy Sargent's brother, reportedly told a drug enforcement agent that the unidentified body was probably Michaels. Many of these individuals were connected through the same regional drug network. Lionel Clormier was identified as a distributor whose associates included Percy and Richard Sargent, David DePrae, Paul Pollard, and Michael Cochran. The names were all there from the beginning, but what investigators did not have was a reliable witness who could explain what happened inside the cabin after Linda drove away or why the fire was set. Still, within weeks of Michael's death, Leola says one of the investigators gave her a

23:53startling theory about exactly that. According to Leola, in March of 1981, main state police detective Ralph Pinkham told her that Percy Sargent had sent a call to have Michael, quote, taken care of. She says Pinkham also told her that he believed Lionel Clormier set the fire while Paul Pollard had narrowly escaped being killed himself. But when Leola saw Pinkham again a couple of weeks later, she says he denied ever telling her that. From then on, Leola could not shake the possibility that the people surrounding Michael that night knew far more than investigators were acknowledging. For nearly four years after Michael died, Leola tried to understand his murder largely on her own. She requested records, wrote to the chief medical examiner repeatedly contacted investigators and tracked down

24:54fire inspector Wilbur Ricker herself. Ricker told her that he believed the person seen leaving the cabin and the two men who appeared when the body was found identified in reports as Percy Sargent and Lionel Clormier needed to be examined more closely. These were the same names that Leola claims Pinkham identified and then later denied disclosing that information. In September of 1983, Leola says Detective Barry Schumann gave her an assessment that echoed part of what Pinkham had told her two years earlier. According to Leola, Schumann said Percy Sargent had arranged Michael's killing, but that the case would probably never be solved because no one would talk. Yet when she pressed Schumann about Paul, the man who had been inside the cabin, Leola says he maintained that Paul was not involved. Leola waited for the allegations to become arrests. She hired an attorney in hopes of furthering her own search for answers, but came up short. But then, on December 6, 1984,

25:59Leola's son, Dairy, arrived at her workplace after midnight carrying a copy of the Bangor Daily News. A grand jury had returned murder and arson indictments against three men from Michael's murder. At first, she was relieved, but then confused. She read the names. They were not the people Leola expected to see accused of killing her son. On December 5, 1984, a Hancock County grand jury indicted 33-year-old Richard Sargent, 35-year-old Roger Bubba Johnson, and 34-year-old William Bill Myers on charges of murder and arson. All three later pleaded not guilty. Richard was Percy Sargent's brother. Richard had

27:00called authorities to suggest that the remains belonged to Michael, so his name had at least some connection to the people surrounding the cabin. Roger Johnson and William Myers were something else. Leola had never heard either man discussed as a suspect during her conversations with investigators. Still, she believed the Attorney General's office must have evidence she had not seen. Leola later learned that the state's case rested heavily on testimony from a woman named Sharon Sargent. Tony DePaul reports for the Bangor Daily News that Sharon had once been married to Stephen Sargent, one of Percy and Richard's brothers. She later began a relationship with another Sargent brother, David, but by the time she testified before the grand jury, she and David were divorcing. In sworn testimony, Sharon said she had attended parties at Roger Johnson's home, where drugs were used and sold. She claimed she was there on the night of February 17, 1981,

28:01when Percy called after his arrest in the Holden Stang. She claimed Richard, Roger, and William believed Michael had been an informant on Percy, setting up the drug sting, and they worried he might also give police information about them. Sharon said at that point, the three men left Roger's home to, quote, take care of Mike. End quote. The next morning, she said, Richard called David. Sharon claimed she listened from another telephone, as Richard said he had hit Michael in the head, and that Roger and William had set the cabin on fire. According to Sharon, Richard wanted her and David to provide him with an alibi. It was a direct, detailed account of the alleged circumstances that preceded Mike's murder, but it came from a witness with substantial credibility problems. Sharon acknowledged her own drug use, and theft charges, and defense attorneys pointed out differences between what she told the grand jury and statements she had previously given

29:03to police. Richard himself was interviewed by detectives Barry Schumann and Ralph Pinkham on the day of his arrest. They confronted him with their theory that Percy had called from jail, accused Michael of setting him up and asked Richard to do something about it. But Richard denied knowing Michael, denied setting the fire, and denied having anything to do with his death. He repeatedly offered to take polygraph. Richard, then the other two defendants, sought release while awaiting trial and were granted bail. One by one the men posted it, and within about six weeks of their arrests, all three were free. Before the murder case could reach trial, the state's central witness changed her story yet again. In February of 1985, Sharon approached Richard's defense attorney and recanted the core of her allegations. She denied overhearing a plan to kill Michael. She said Richard wasn't even at the party that night.

30:04According to AJ Higgins' reporting for the Bangor Daily News, Sharon said she was afraid of detective Schumann, and believed he had used leading and suggestive questions during her interviews. Richard's attorney recorded and transcribed the conversation and then gave it to prosecutors. Now detective Schumann denied doing anything improper. He was briefly removed from the investigation, then assigned back to the case under the supervision of Sergeant Pinkham. On March 1st, prosecutors arranged a polygraph examination for Sharon. The results was inconclusive. The case was cracking in a major way. Without a reliable version of Sharon's story, the charges couldn't hold. In June of 1985, assistant attorney General Thomas Goodwin moved to dismiss the charges against Richard Sargent, Roger Johnson, and William Myers, citing Sharon's inconsistent testimony and insufficient evidence to proceed. Interestingly, Richard objected to the dismissal.

31:06Because the charges were dropped without prejudice, prosecutors could theoretically bring them again, and Goodwin promised the investigation would continue. Richard's attorney argued that Richard would remain under the suspicion and stigma of an unresolved murder accusation without ever receiving the trial he said he wanted. Richard invoked his rights to a speedy trial to confront the witnesses against him and to obtain a final resolution. The objection was not expected to restore the indictments, and it did not, but as reported by Jean-Hai for the BDN, it left an unusual statement in the record. One of the men accused of Michael's murder was asking the state to put him on trial. The murder charges were gone, but many of the same names were about to surface in another case. This one involving two robberies that were brutal enough to expose just how dangerous Michael's circle had become. The case is concerned two robberies of the same man described as a drug dealer

32:11in Corinth, Maine. The first happened on November of 1980, less than three months before Michael died. The second took place in March of 1981 about a month after the cabin fire. The attackers allegedly stole pot and tens of thousands of dollars, and during the second robbery, the victim was viciously assaulted. The case is implicated, Lionel Cormier, Richard and Percy Sargent, Paul Pollard, and another man named Robert Smith. But, Paul wouldn't be prosecuted despite his confessed involvement because he agreed to serve as state's witness in exchange for immunity. Paul started a trend with his testimony. The other individuals implicated in the robberies started turning on one another, and Michael's murder became entangled in their competing stories. In recorded conversations with Richard Sargent beginning in February of 1986, Lionel Cormier repeatedly accused Paul, his own half-brother, of burning the cabin and killing

33:16Michael Cochran. Lionel acknowledged that he had picked Paul up after the fire and said Paul had been afraid he would be arrested for murder. Some of what Lionel said sounded like direct knowledge. Other parts were clearly speculation and reconstruction, but Lionel was not an objective witness. Paul's cooperation threatened to send him to prison for decades, and it seemed Lionel was trying to negotiate favorable treatment for himself. In April of 1986, Percy Sargent contacted Mike's mother from prison himself, and also blamed Paul for Mike's death. Percy claimed Paul heard about the drug arrests, decided Michael must have informed on them, and killed him before setting the cabin on fire. Percy initially suggested that Lionel might also have been involved, but later changed his account and claimed Paul acted alone while Lionel only picked him up afterward. But of course, Percy also had a reason to discredit Paul for

34:18pastifying against him. By the time Richard Sargent went on trial in July of 1986, Paul, Lionel, Percy, and Richard were each offering versions of events that minimized their own exposure while placing someone else closer to Michael's murder. And that wasn't even the case that was on trial. Now, Detective Barry Schumann testified that Paul had come forward in March of 1981 to clear his conscience. Schumann said investigators didn't even know about the robberies before Paul disclosed them, and that he was not initially promised immunity. According to Schumann, that arrangement came later when prosecutors decided they needed Paul's testimony against the other men. Richard's defense viewed the deal differently. According to Gene Curran's trial coverage for the Bingoor Daily News, Richard's attorney argued in part that Paul may have offered information about the robberies in the hope of receiving protection in Michael's case.

35:21Raising testimony about Michael's case was an issue for the prosecution, but the judge allowed the defense to establish that Paul had been considered a suspect in Michael's death. The attorney could not ask whether Paul had killed Michael or whether his testimony in the robbery case had protected him from being charged with it. So, Paul admitted under oath that he had been inside the cabin when the fire began. He also acknowledged that he was the person fire chief Norman Heron saw leaving through the woods. Still, Paul continued to deny killing Michael or setting the fire. With the help of Paul's testimony, Richard was convicted and later sentenced to 14 years in prison. Then came Lionel Kormier's trial the following month. Robert Smith, one of the other defendants, had already pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against Lionel in exchange for a reduced sentence. Paul was also a key witness for the state.

36:22Now, Robert told the jury that during the second robbery, he saw Lionel cut off the victim's ear, lift it on the tip of a knife, and throw it at the man as he lay bleeding. Lionel already had a reputation for brutality and violence, and this testimony only further supported it. But when it came to Paul's testimony, Lionel's attorney raised the same issue Richard's defense had. That Paul's possible involvement in Michael's murder gave him a powerful reason to cooperate with prosecutors. Once again, the judge limited how far the defense could go, the jury could hear that Paul had been considered a suspect, and only that. Lionel was ultimately convicted of two counts of robbery with a firearm and aggravated assault. He received a combined sentence of 23 years. After the trials, Richard's attorney argued that detective Schumann's testimony about when investigators first learned of the robberies was Paul's.

37:23Leola also came to believe the record showed police had known about the crimes before Paul supposedly volunteered the information, and that investigators stopped treating him as a viable murder suspect in Mike's case because they needed his cooperation against Lionel and Richard. Richard sought a new trial on those grounds, but the request was denied. Leola had attended many of the court dates for the robbery cases, listening for any information about her son's murder within the testimony. During Richard's trial, she encountered Roger Johnson and William Myers outside the courtroom. These were two of the men she had once feared as her son's killers. They'd been indicted, but their charges were dismissed without prejudice. When she spoke with them that day, they claimed they had never met Michael, or even several of the other people who had supposedly connected them to his death before there are arrests. Roger and William then made Leola a surprising

38:25offer. They told her she could have what they retained from the discovery materials in the since dismissed murder case. So over the following days, Leola collected boxes and envelopes from the men once accused of her son's murder. She received fire reports, witness statements, police records, interview transcripts, and Michael's complete autopsy report. A document the medical examiner's office had previously refused to give her. For the first time, Leola could read the case herself rather than relying on what investigators or suspects chose to tell her. What she found her was that the state had accused the wrong men and that information pointing toward another suspect had been sitting in those files for years. All the same information. I look at that sometime and think to myself, how could they disregard? You know, if prosecutors were not going to bring a case against the person she believed was responsible for her son's death,

39:29Leola decided she would try another way. In the late 1980s, Leola filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Paul Pollard. A civil verdict could not send anyone to prison, but the case allowed her to question Paul, investigators, and fire officials under O. The clips from the depositions you heard earlier in this episode are from the civil proceedings. Leola has kept and carefully catalogued every piece of her own effort to find answers since day one, including uploading the full depositions to YouTube. I'll link them in the show notes for you. The lawsuit eventually forced Paul Pollard's account and the fire investigators conclusions into the same courtroom, but it ended without anyone being held responsible for Michael's death. The civil jury ultimately found Paul Pollard not liable. Leola requested a new trial,

40:36but that request was denied. By the early 2000s, Michael's case was placed in the hands of main state police detective Gerald Coleman. Coleman began reviewing the old investigation and speaking with Leola and her family. According to Leola, he believed there was still work to be done on the case and at one point considered bringing evidence before Grand Jury. He also questioned Lionel Kormier about Michael's death. Lionel had served approximately 15 years for the earlier armed robberies before being released in 2002. Within a short time, he was involved in another violent criminal case that ultimately brought him before a federal judge in 2005. Leola and several members of Michael's family attended Lionel's trial and returned for his sentencing on June 28, 2005. By then, Lionel's alleged involvement in Michael's death had followed the case for years, but it had never resulted in a charge against him. At Lionel's federal sentencing,

41:38assistant US attorney Gail Maloney raised Michael's murder while describing Lionel's history of violence. She told the judge that one of the witnesses in the federal case said Lionel had threatened him by discussing a homicide he claimed to have been involved in. According to Maloney, Lionel told that man he had killed Michael Cochran by burning the cabin down. It was the most direct allegation against Lionel to surface publicly in years, but it was still an allegation attributed to another person, not a confession made in court, and not evidence that had resulted in a murder charge. Lionel immediately denied it when he addressed the court himself. Quote, you know, charging me with the Cochran murder when I have not been charged with it, or even indicted, or even questioned about it except by Mr. Coleman himself, I've been caught for everything I have done, so if I would have done this Cochran issue, obviously I would have been convicted in sentence to life. End quote. Lionel was sentenced to 411

42:45months more than 34 years in federal prison for the unrelated case. Given his serious health problems, even his own attorney acknowledged that it would likely amount to a life sentence. For Leola, seeing Lionel imprisoned offered some measure of satisfaction, but it was not a conviction for Michael's murder, and it still did not answer the question she had been asking since 1981, so she tried once more to get an answer from Lionel herself. In February of 2007, Leola had brought to him at a federal medical prison in Missouri. Leola asked Lionel to tell her what happened to Michael and why. She included some of the accusations Percy and Richard Sargent had made over the years, and appealed to Lionel to give her peace of mind before he died. He never answered. Lionel Clormier died in federal prison in 2009. He had never been charged in connection with Michael's death, and despite what federal prosecutors

43:46said had been attributed to him in 2005, he never publicly accepted responsibility for Michael's killing. By then, Leola had spent nearly three decades trying to get someone and investigate her, a prosecutor, a witness, or one of the men she believed knew the truth, to finally tell her what happened. She is 90 years old now, and that drive has never left her. I asked Leola what keeps her going after all this time. I think it's a fight for what was done to Mike. I know he's been gone, and unlike I said, I just pray to God that he's at peace. I believe in the hereafter, and I just, it's the fight, it's to know what they did and what they got away. The problems with Michael's case began before investigators even knew there was a homicide

44:47to solve. For six days, authorities did not know Michael was beneath the charred rubble. Two gasoline cans found on the morning of the fire were collected and tested, and while their contents were confirmed to be gasoline, no usable fingerprints were recovered. The third can was photographed, and the contents were believed to be an accelerant of some kind, but it was never collected or submitted for laboratory testing. Percy Sargent and Lionel Kormier arrived at the cabin only minutes after Michael's remains were found, yet neither man was questioned during the initial investigation, despite their connections to the cabin, the drug network, and the people who had been there on the night of the fire. For years, a theory persisted that Michael had informed on Percy Sargent and caused the hold in drug busts that allegedly put the entire series of events that led to Michael's death into motion. Michael's family repeatedly asked the state to publicly clear his name, believing that whoever spread the informant accusation had helped put him in danger. Police at least gave the

45:52caucons that, and later stated that Michael had never served as an informant. In September of 2006, long after the dismissed indictments and failed civil proceedings, Leola received a letter from William Stokes, then chief of the Criminal Division in the Main Attorney General's office. His assessment confirmed what she had understood for years. Prosecuting Michael's case would be extraordinarily difficult, in part because the cabin had not been treated as a homicide scene for a significant period after the fire. By the time investigators understood that someone had died there, evidence had likely been destroyed, contaminated, moved, or tampered with. The letter did not tell Leola who killed her son. It did not explain why Paul Pollard's account seemed to be accepted as truth, why Percy Sargent and Lionel Cormier were not initially questioned, or why so much potentially relevant information surfaced through unrelated criminal cases instead of Michael's murder investigation. For more than four decades,

47:03Michael's name has been surrounded by fire reports, drug cases, witness statements, court transcripts, and competing accusations. But behind all of that was Michael, who will always be Leola's little boy. As Michael grew older, life with him became unpredictable. He ran away often, but even when Michael disappeared for weeks or traveled thousands of miles away, Leola could believe his heart was still out there beating somewhere. His murder took that from her. Loose names forever was, I always know he was somewhere others, but when I found out that he killed him and I didn't know why that was the hardest thing for me was why. Why did they kill him?

48:05Leola has never denied any of Michael's challenges, crimes, or convictions. She also never accepted the idea that those choices made his life disposable. What did he do that he deserved the best sentence? Michael was 24 years old when he died. Leola has now lived with his absence for nearly twice as long as he was alive. The legal system has never given Leola the answer she spent half of her own life seeking, but Leola's definition of justice is no longer limited to an arrest or a courtroom. Is there a version of closure or justice for you in this lifetime? What would that look like? Tell what happened. Tell it. Exposit before I die. Paul Pollard, Lionel Clormier, and Percy Sargent were never charged in connection with Michael

49:07Cochran's death. Pollard denied killing Michael or setting the fire and a civil jury found him not liable. Richard Sargent, Roger Johnson, and William Myers were indicted for murder and arson in 1984. But those charges were dismissed before trial. No one has ever been convicted of killing Michael Cochran. If you have information about Michael Cochran's death or the fire at the cabin, contact the main state police major crimes unit north at 207-973-3750 or toll free at 1-800-432-7381. Anonymous tips can also be submitted by texting mesptip followed by your information to 847-411. Even a detail that seemed insignificant at the time could help investigators understand what happened inside that cabin on February 18, 1981.

50:15Thank you for listening to Dark Down East. You can find all source material for this case at darkdowneast.com. Be sure to follow the show on Instagram at Dark Down East. This platform is for the families and friends who have lost their loved ones and for those who are still searching for answers. I'm not about to let those names or their stories get lost with time. I'm Kylie Lowe, and this is Dark Down East. Dark Down East is a production of Kylie Media and Adia Chuck. I think Chuck would approve. In February of 2024, celebrated illustrator and children's book author Patre Mathers and her husband Michael mailed letters to dozens of friends and family members to let them know they have died by suicide. Dear Hunnies, this is goodbye. By the time you get the shalliter book petr and I will be dead. Next stop Wonderland. Why did they do it? And what did it

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