The Moon Landing is Humanity's Biggest Deception — Bart Sibrel | Jerm Warfare

0:30What's the bell? Thank you for joining me in the trenches. I love what you said to me a moment ago how all men are equal. Well yeah they now the GI used back in the video tape days. I could take a part of ECR, clean it, fix a broken video tape, but I couldn't change my oil. I'd be under their cursing because I don't do it all the time. So one person can change your oil or fix your car. Now the person can do heart surgery but can't fix your car. So all people are equal in that way and maybe spiritually as well. Some people have certain attributes. They don't drink, they don't smoke, but they don't get along with people as well as people who drink and smoke. So you never know. The Bible says that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. No one is right, just not even one. I know we're in the alternative media where there are poster child evil villains. You

1:36could say, I hate to use his name, but Bill Gates for example. And one of the things that convinces me that Jesus is not of this earth is when he said, love your enemy. You see the Muslims are bombing the Jews and the Jews are bombing the Muslims and the so-called Christian United States are bombing everybody else. No one is actually loving their enemy. And God says he doesn't want even the wicked to perish but to come to repent. So for one person to say, I only kill one person a month and Bill Gates kills 300 people a day. So I'm righteous compared to him. Not really. And Bill Gates is a lost soul. When Jesus would be murdered, he said, forgive them for they don't know what they're doing. If you look at Bill Gates' body language rocking back and forth, these strange gestures he moves with his hands and arms like he's autistic. There's something wrong with the guy. Not to mention he was raised from the

2:41cradle to be a racist, eugenicist under the philosophy of his parents who founded Planned Parenthood to lower the black population of America. And so this is the, you know, he may still be doing wrong and all that stuff. But we need to have compassion on him as well. And the real enemy, according to Ephesians six, I think, are the spiritual forces of evil and other dimensions that are controlling people's hearts and mind. Of course, if God is not in your heart, then only evil forces and thoughts can come in. And so the moon landing fraud, which is sad to say they actually did fake the moon landing, is very spiritually symbolic because it's mankind's greatest accomplishment by the most powerful nation on earth that claims to be the most righteous. And if you got us to brawl.com and watch a funny thing happen on the way to the moon, we open up with the tower of Babel, which Jesus said, if someone starts to build a tower and doesn't finish

3:44it, that half-built tower year after year is testimony to the construction crews foolishness for not knowing what they were doing. So the tower of Babel was never finished. So it was kind of a rebuke. It said it was to reach the heavens. What is the moon landing? To reach the heavens. And it says why they did it in Genesis 6. It says to show off, to make a name for ourselves, for us to be the country, the people with the tallest building. What was the space race about to show off, you see? Then we show the Titanic in the 20th century, the largest machine ever built by the hand of man. And they put in publicity posters, the ship that God himself could not sink. Tower of Babel never finished. Titanic never made one voyage and then Richard Nixon, who didn't have the guts to show up for the launch. Can you imagine the presidents of other nations

4:47are there at the launch of the Apollo rocket? And Nixon was there. He knew it was fake and he didn't want to have a picture of him shaking the alarm strong sand with a big smile at it later to become unraveled. So he distanced himself from it in case they got caught faking it. No one had ever faked the moon landing before. They knew they could get caught, although they figured they probably would get away with it. So Nixon shows up for the second launch once they got away with faking it. So knowing that the moon missions were fake, Nixon nevertheless said putting a man on the moon is second and greatness only to God making the universe when he knew they weren't there. I mean, that's blasphemous. So according to that structure, it looks like if the rebuke about the Tower of Babel is known to the world, the rebuke of that Titanic is known to the world. Maybe this rebuke will be known also and maybe not immediately for a reason. Imagine there's a couple

5:53who madly in love, they get married and then six weeks later one of them said a convention gets insanely drunk, wakes up in a bed next to somebody with no clothes on and realizes they've been unfaithful. They can go home and tell their spouse and say, look, I don't want to live a lie, divorce me if you want or forgive me, but that's what happened. Or imagine they tell them on their 50th anniversary after they're a deacon in the church and respect in the community and love by their grandchildren. Oh, by the way, Han, I cheated on you 50 years ago. You see, the impact I think would be greater 50 years later. Maybe that's why. I've never seen a debunking video, not a single one, why waste my time. They didn't fake the moon landing and it was a long road for me to come to that sad conclusion. However, I download one every now and then because if the truth comes out, they're going to be scrambling to take those debunking videos down so they don't look like, you

6:55know, fools. And so I'm saving a few of them. And we were talking about the Danny Jones interview. And when I did two interviews with him last year, and when I did the first one, I think in March, he brought up some video on the screen of a debunking video. And I think it was because I did Joe Rogan. So after I did Joe Rogan, this guy starts the video by saying, I don't do debunking videos, but I'm doing this one. That's like Edgar Mitchell saying, I don't hit people and then he hits people five seconds later, right? And so the guy is so offended. I offended is God that he never does the debunking videos, but he got to do this because I offended him so much. And I look at the counter time in the lower right hand corner and it's something like two and a half hours long. Okay, so Jeremy, if they went to the moon, the amount of evidence that I have that proves they

7:55didn't is zero. So how long should a debunking video be? Zero minutes and zero seconds because I have no proof at all if they really went to the moon. But to have to spend two and a half hours pushing back the proof that they did indeed fake it is more proof that they did. Why I asked Charles Duke when he did this interview a few months ago, you know, why are you here? If I climbed Mount Everest and Jeremy so-and-so in South Africa thinks I faked climbing Mount Everest, what I fly halfway around the world to sit across from him to debate whether I climbed Mount Everest or not, are you kidding me? Give me a break. I have more important things to do like taking a nap. So the fact that he's there and if you look at it, Buzz Aldrin hasn't been seen in a podcast or TV interview in almost three years. They brought out Charles Duke because he's a better

8:57liar. And he's been on podcast after podcast after podcast since I did Joe Rogan reassuring people that the moon missions are real, which he wouldn't have to do if they were real, right? If I'm going around saying George Washington was not the first president but it was Mickey Mouse, would there be a thousand debunking videos to reassure people? No, no, no. It's not Mickey Mouse and if you look at the picture Mickey Mouse and George Washington look different, why would they bother? The fact is there is a enormous amount of proof that they faked it and that's why it takes so much energy and effort to push it back. So that's my opening rant. How are you doing Jeremy? Yeah, sorry. My curtain is broken and the sun has suddenly appeared right in the light. The light is shining through. How apropos. I need to fix this this blind. But for now I'm going to just have to hold my hand here. But why is this important?

10:01Well, that's an excellent question and really interesting because 75% of Americans believe that Oswald did not kill Kennedy. It says in the encyclopedia that Oswald killed Kennedy, that government has a thousand pages of alleged documentation to prove that Oswald killed Kennedy. And yet 75% of Americans know better. There are 3,000 engineers who risked their reputation saying that the buildings on 9-11 did not collapse by a pinhole airplane going in and out of a grid. It's impossible. Look at Oklahoma City bombing photograph. Half the building, half the grid is blown away. Still stands a grid cannot collapse. And half of Americans know that that didn't happen. So according to that you could say this is just one more lie that the government did.

11:08And I would agree with that and why bothers is this one more on the pile of a bunch of garbage the federal government did except for the fact that they murdered people that keep it a secret. And that's not my opinion. This is the opinion of dead astronauts relatives who I interviewed at length who say that they're a Apollo astronaut husband and father was murdered by the CIA for not cooperating with fraud in the Apollo program. And they're the ones who are telling me this. So if you love truth and love America, a lot of things start out pure and become corrupt. I hate to say it, but the Christian Church is one perfect example. You know, it was faithful and whatever. But even at hard times, I guess three quarters of the New Testament is rebuking church members for being ungodly. Imagine how it got worse after that. And maybe America was founded on

12:12noble principles of independence and freedom. And the first document is not the Constitution. It's the actual declaration of independence. It says when any nation becomes an obstacle or destructive of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it. According to the federal government today, it's illegal for a state, Tennessee, Texas, whatever, to pull out of the United States of America. It's illegal for them, according to the, you know, the attorney general of the United States or whatever. But the first document of our country says it's perfectly legal. And not to mention that if you ask the Congress how many of you are Christians, probably, you know, 85% of them would raise their hand. And the Bible says when someone wants to divorce you, you are to let them do so.

13:12So there's a scriptural precedent for that. The fact is they murdered their own people. The first one is life. According to the relatives of the man who was going to be the first man to walk on the moon, who would not cooperate with the moon landing fraud, he was murdered by the CIA. In fact, he had whistleblower protection the day he died. And I interviewed his widow for about four hours. She told me the day before he died, he telephoned her and said, Han, for some strange reason, the CIA is all over the launch pad today, inspecting the equipment. I've been here for years. They were seeing the CIA. Why did they show up today? The next day, he's dead from fault the equipment. A man who called the moon rocket a piece of garbage on the evening news a few days earlier and was a boat rocker that they couldn't deal with. And so the federal government has murdered

14:14their own people. Now, if you go to Wikipedia, which, you know, lies continually, occasionally, they have to admit the truth. And I think there's documentation about the Kennedy administration's Northwoods project where people from the Pentagon, chief of staff, or whoever, said Kennedy, let's do this. You want to hear this great idea? Why don't we blow up Americans, blame it on Cuba, so we have an excuse to go to war with Cuba. They put in writing, I think these are unclassified now, that they thought somebody in our government thought it was a great idea to murder Americans and blame other people to start a war. And that sounded like 9-11. And they put it in writing. Now, I'm not a lawyer, but I think if you plot to kill people, that's called attempted murder, isn't it? Shouldn't those people who've gone to jail? And Robert McNamur, the vet secretary told President Johnson, who rescinded Kennedy pulling out of the Vietnam War, said, look,

15:19the public's against it. We need something like Pearl Harbor, you know, to motivate people. And they can try to fake attack from a North Vietnamese ship on an American ship that led to the death of 3 million people, including 58,220 of their own soldiers. On an event that never happened, they completely fabricated it. And Kennedy's relatives say he was murdered by the CIA. So the federal government is murdering their own president, murdering their own people, murdering their own astronauts. That's why it matters. These people are at large. We can't say Jeremy, you know, on my subdivision, one child disappears every month. It's been going on for 50 years. One of those things like it rains from time to time. No, it needs to stop. These are murderers running our government. They're embezzling billions of dollars, right? The only reason people haven't acknowledged

16:19the moon landing for hot is because it's a positive lie that people want to hear. They want their team to win the Super Bowl. They want science and technology in America to win the space race. And so they gave them this flattery, this fake moon landing, and people are defending their own oppressors, which is pretty pathetic. That's how fallen the world is. And so that's why it matters because these people are murderers. They murdered numerous people. In fact, if you go to Sebral.com read my book, which is the behind the scenes investigation of my film, we have an eyewitness who saw them film the fake moon landing at Cannon Air Force Base and who admitted as he was dying, he murdered a coworker to cover it up because they were going to blow the whistle about it. So that's why it matters. Why did the U.S. government start the whole thing? Well, Kennedy wasn't a scientist. He was a visionary. And after America went into space, I think

17:23for 15 minutes. They just went from the East Coast to the West Coast. Kennedy comes up with this idea. Why don't we try to put men on the moon and was set a deadline to help motivate ourselves the end of the decade. And he missed spoke, right? They can't go to the moon today. With 50 years better technology, they can now only travel one thousandth of the distance to the moon. Somehow, in 1969, they can travel a thousand times farther into space than they can today. Really, technology is greater in the past than in the future. He missed spoke. And they wouldn't admit it. The faking of the moon landing proves our leaders are juvenile. I watched Stanley Kubrick's, what does it call, Dr. Strangelov last night. And the way that the generals and the president are talking to one another and the world leaders, there are a bunch of kids with machine guns. They could have just told the truth. I'm sorry,

18:27you know, we can't do it. But the fact is my book is interactive. If you go to Sebral.com, click on moonman video links. One of the links we show is the Kennedy assassination. The broadcast two days later by Dan Rather of CBS evening news, who says we're not going to show the Zabruder film because it's too horrific. But trust me, let me describe it for you. Well, we have synchronized it or somebody did and I copied it. They synchronized it with Dan Rather's description of it. And when he says the third fatal shot, Kennedy said goes violently forward. His head goes violently backward. So in 1963, CBS told the exact opposite of the truth about one of the most important events in the country's history. That's what they did a few years later with the moon landing fraud. No eyewitnesses, no independent press coverage. You just have to trust.

19:31Richard Nixon. Yeah. This is the thing that has always got me. It's one of these events that you can't falsify because it's so far away. And so on the day, if there was a rocket that went up into the sky, anybody on the ground would have only been able to see to a certain distance. After that, you have to trust NASA. That's right. In fact, Eugene Grant, who I've spoken to personally, said that someone in the command center can't tell the difference between a rehearsal flight and a quote real flight, just a bunch of numbers going by on a screen. So if someone in the command center cannot tell the difference between a real and a rehearsal Apollo flight, how can we watch and end on video years after it happened or as a four-year-old from our living room? Their number one excuse as to why it must be real is 400,000 people are involved if you include every janitor and secretary and office supply and pencil pusher from every company associated with

20:34the Apollo program. But do you think the government's really stupid enough to say to the guy making the glove or the door handle or the boot? Hey, we're really not going to the moon. Be sure not to tell anybody. I mean, come on. If someone in the command center can't tell the difference, how can we? And then they had other Apollo astronauts serving in the command center to run cover in case the mistakes were shown. We uncovered a mistake. Go to sabral.com and watch a funny thing happen on the way to the moon. We found footage of them faking part of the moon landing right in front of your eyes with a third track of audio of the CIA telling them how to do it. And when I saw that, I'm like, oh my gosh, they actually did fake the moon landing. The Washington Post, who interviewed me, agrees that that proves the moon landing is fake and refused to run a story about it. Two NBC news directors agreed the footage I uncovered proves they did not go to the moon and they were called by the federal government and threatened

21:39with disconnecting their network feed or something if they aired my footage. So it's not just me saying the footage proves that other people say it as well. Yeah, I remember watching, I think it was Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Kimmel, one of those late night shows on which Buzz Aldrin appeared and he's always at Colbert or something. I don't know, doesn't really matter. So one of those late night shows in which he said, yeah, we saw you walk on the moon and then and then Buzz Aldrin stopped him and said, no, no, no, no, no, you didn't see that. You saw, what did he say? You saw acting or you saw a simulation, what he was talking about during the lunar descent. During the alleged lunar descent, they had like an Atari computer graphic of a little triangle with a pretty bad looking moon in the background. And it said simulation on the bottom of the screen. So they didn't have live pictures during the landing.

22:39They had live pictures during the trip to the moon. They had live pictures on the moon, allegedly, but not during the landing. If the moon landing was real, they would have had a camera mounted on the side of the rocket and you could go to the TV station and see it 24 hours until it completely left her. They went to the moon and down, but they didn't have all these blackout points. And then suddenly the lights come up and they're on the moon and we have an eyewitness who says that moon set was filmed at Cannon Air Force Base a year in advance. June 1st, 2nd and 3rd of 1968. And that the Apollo astronauts weren't even in the suits. They were standing there watching somebody else perform those duties. And it's very easy to fake something when you have no independent press coverage and the only proof is from the criminals who are perpetrating it. I mean, you have to understand the former CIA director who Kennedy fired was in charge of proving that Oswald killed the president rather than himself.

23:45Can you imagine? Can you imagine if O.J. Simpson were the chief investigator as to whether or not he killed those people or not? On that be great. I'm sure he would love that. So we had we had the person who killed the president who gave that order in charge of the investigation, you know, proving who actually did it. And of course he's not going to say himself. Do you think an unmanned mission has ever happened? Oh, sure. You can send a probe beyond Earth orbit. The problem is you don't have enough fuel to leave Earth orbit with people on board who require radiation protection, oxygen, food, and so forth. Elon Musk just said, in order to go to the moon, you need 15 fuel trips to a space station first. And from there, you'll have enough fuel to go to the moon and back. We have a video at cyberl.com, Von Braun saying the very same thing. The largest rocket we can build

24:48can only go into Earth orbit. And from there, you need to ferry up multiple fuel trips in order to go to the moon. And that's what it takes to go to the moon before they set the goal to go to the moon. And to quote return to the moon, then that's what it takes for all time. That's why they destroyed all the blueprint schematics of the Saturn V rocket, the lunar module, and so forth. Can you imagine? One of the clips at cyberl.com that my book is interacting with like 30 clips. NASA's astronaut says they destroyed the technology that they used to go to the moon. They intentionally destroyed it. Yeah, he says it was an accident. No, he didn't say, no, he didn't say that was an accident. I think they said they accidentally destroyed regional videotapes. The technology, he said, they intentionally destroyed. We destroyed that technology, is what he said. Now, if there were ever a time in history in which you would destroy a technology, it might be the atomic bomb. Okay, we used it

25:53to end World War II. But let's, you know, this is too dangerous. Let's destroy the blueprints and have a, you know, an international treaty to never let that genie out of the bottle again. But they didn't do that. Did they? Just 10 years later with the progress of technology, atomic bombs 10 years later were 1000 times more explosive. So if they could go to the moon on the first attempt with one million to computing power of a cell phone, we would have been on Mars 10 years later. We'd be in another solar system by now, and there'd be bases all over the moon. Why is it today with five decades better rockets and computers that can only send a human one thousandth the distance to the moon? That's like saying Toyota or better yet, let's say Lindbergh flew across the Atlantic in 1927, right? So 55 years later, 1982, the farthest an airplane can fly has only three miles and not a single aircraft

26:56has flown over the Atlantic before. When people went to Mount Everest, are people still going to the South Pole? To say that Lindbergh flew across the Atlantic 3000 miles in 1927, and 55 years later, the best airplane can only fly three miles and not a single person from a single country has flown over the Atlantic in 50 years as preposterous. That's exactly what they're saying about the moon landing. You cannot have greater technology in the past and in the future. Plus we have an eyewitness who confessed to killing a person to cover it up where it was filmed when it was filmed. We have this footage of them faking being halfway to the moon, and you can look at a simple shadow in a picture that proves it was electrical lighting because the shadows are intersecting at 90 degrees when they should be parallel. If they were sunlight, he can prove the moon landing fraud one picture. People just don't want to accept it. Even greater than the moon landing

27:56accepted. Even great critics of the federal government like what's his name? Tucker Carlson and who's that guy? Glenn Beck. They're sincere, but they're sincerely wrong. They say to themselves, I know America has gotten bad, but at least we went to the moon. They should know that from past experience, at the longer they live, the deeper they dig, the world and the federal government more corrupt than they previously thought. There's no independent press coverage. People wanted to believe it. They did sadly affect the moon landing and anyone with an open mind would agree. There's a great clip or quote on my homepage of Sebral.com from someone who saw me on Joe Rogan. He says I never considered that they were fake, but after watching the interview, it's so obvious that they faked it. Bart's book shows all the proof all the more that they faked it.

29:01I'm sorry, I had to come to the same conclusion from literally worship being the glory of the moon landings to being a skeptic to realizing they did indeed fake it. That's the world we live in. That's the country we have, and if we keep denying we have cancer, it's going to be our undoing. Do you think Joe agrees with you? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, he called me up or emailed me 22 years ago. It says, Bart, I believe we didn't go. What can I do to help you? It took me out to dinner. Then before the show, it's like I know we didn't go, but let me pretend I'm being critical here. I didn't understand what he was doing because I know he knows we didn't go to the moon, and then I was exhausted from traveling, and it was like a three hour interview. Normally, I'm like, then interview went great or terrible, and after Joe Rogan, I'm like, what was that? In the break in the bathroom, I'm like, what are you doing? You know, you know, they didn't

30:03go to the moon. He says, I know, but trust me, I'm doing this for a reason. There's a whole new generation of people who need to overcome the critical thinking. Trust me. And apparently, he was right. I can't see my nose for my face or the force for the trees. And after, you know, that's why I posted that quote about the Joe Rogan interview on my homepage because he was right. The way that he did it did help people see that the moon missions were fake if they have an open mind. Other people, you know, worship it. I get emails from people who say they wish they could watch my wife and children burn a lie before their eyes because I dared say the grueling landings were fake. Anyone who foams at the mouth to that degree does not see things clearly, which proves that I'm right. I talked to a college professor teaching aerospace. And he said, even if Neil Armstrong confessed on national TV that the moon missions were fake, he would think that

31:05they're real anyway. People have no open mind. I just saw a clip of what is named the gruel, Neil degree, Tyson or something like that, whatever the guy's name is, which is a pretty pretty bad spokesperson in my opinion for the scientific community. I like the the Japanese guy. He does a lot better, but in any case, and he says, you know, people who think the moon landings are fake or disconnected from reality or words to that effect. And it's interesting because those very comments actually apply to himself. He is totally disconnected from reality. And that person who's disconnected from reality is the spokesperson for the scientific community. What he's accusing the moon landing fraud people who realize it was a fake is exactly true about himself. He is Gaga worshipping the moon landing, not completely hypnotized. You have a hypnotized person who can't tell the truth from a lie being the spokesperson for the scientific community of the United States

32:11of America and calling the other people who are awake asleep when he himself is more hypnotized than anybody else. I think the the bit that got me the footage of the announcement with the three astronauts are sitting, forget now is it Congress or wherever it was, they didn't even make the announcements. I think it was the president who announced it and they looked like they were about to start crying. Yeah, now to me, I gave them the benefit of the doubt as long as possible. I had a million dollars to produce this movie. It was given to me by someone who built rockets for NASA who knew was fake, who thought it was his patriotic duty to expose it. I was producing the film under the theory it might be true that they faked it. I found the footage that proves they were faking part of the mission right in front of your eyes and I'm like, oh my gosh, they really did fake the moon landing. And I was shocked. Now I gave myself too long of a two-part

33:17episode to answer your question. Remind me your question one more time. That was a lead up to it. I was just saying that those those three astronauts are sitting and then they'll say, okay, so to me, the epiphany, you know, how I went from, you know, believing the moon landing is real to knowing that they were indeed falsified is that footage. And about 80% four out of five people to watch a funny thing happened on the way to the moon. It's there for free at Cabral.com. They reversed their opinion. And of that group 80% say the proof that convinced them was the footage of them faking part of the moon mission. But one out of five say the proof that convinced them was what you said, Jeremy, their expressions at their first and only press conference together. They look like they're at the funeral of their mother instead of the winning locker room of the Super Bowl. Their expressions look exactly like people who don't want to be there

34:21who are lying in which they were lying. And they even have teleprompters hidden into the desk to remind the people who were supposed to be the only people who walked on the moon what that experience was like and they're reading from teleprompters. And they look like they're at the funeral of their mother. I mean, they should eat on their faces and a lot of people are getting better than that. Yeah, exactly. I mean, great. There's so many. I know, but they're they're they're lying about mankind's greatest accomplishment. You can see it on their faces. They wish they were not there. You can see it on their faces. They're depression from having to lie or being, you know, coerced and aligned. What I mean, the counter argument is that they were just being professional. You know, it's another day at the office. Well, I mean, my greatest critic

35:22agrees that the footage I uncovered is them faking part of the moon mission. So there you go. My greatest critic has to agree that the footage I uncovered is the crew of Apollo 11 faking the photography apart of their mission. So if they really went to the moon, why would they be faking any of it? You can you can argue in and out of anything, like I said, a college professor said a confession from Neil Armstrong that it was fake would not dissuade him from believing in the glorious moon landings. People just are going to believe what they want to believe. Speaking of Neil Armstrong, I mean, didn't he go into like a reclusive human kind of lifestyle after that? Yeah, he did. From my research, he was a very, I think they say Gregorius outgoing person prior to the Apollo mission. He was the life of the party. Apparently played the piano. Everyone would surround him and he would sing and play the piano of parties and was the center of attention. And then afterwards, his personality became the exact opposite.

36:28He became reclusive. So here we have three people on the first mission to the moon and two of the three will never give an interview unless the president of the United States asked them to do so. You understand that? They don't want to talk about it. I believe Neil Armstrong was threatened with the death of his wife and children. And that's why he gradually participated, looked like he was under the thumb to do it during the press conference, resigned shortly thereafter, and refused to ever be interviewed about it. That's why. Because it was a lie. He was threatened. His wife was threatened. My source, who was at Cannon Air Force Base, who saw them faking the moon landing, I double checked these details before I published my book with his son. And his son was visited just a few years ago by the CIA and they threatened to kill him and his family if he ever spoke to me again about his father's participation in the moon landing thread. So that's what they're doing. They're

37:31still threatening to kill people and they are killing people. There were other Apollo astronauts, other than the first crew that was going to be who were murdered. There were backup crews who were murdered. There were critics of the program who were murdered and there's a coworker at Cannon Air Force Base who was murdered as well. This is why it matters. They didn't just fake the moon landing and not kill anybody at which point maybe I would admire their cleverness. They murdered people that covered up. They're still threatening to murder people who will talk about it and expose it. If the truth makes us free, then lies make us slaves. So every American citizen is a slave of the corrupt federal government as long as the official policy as the moon landing's are real. I cannot believe Trump wants to allegedly reform the government and he refuses to use the number one tool

38:34at his disposal to do so, which is to show the American public they were made chunks six times in a row. They embezzled the sweat of their labor and murdered people paid the salaries of CIA agents to murder Americans to cover it up. If President Trump showed that to the American people, he would have Republicans and Democrats saying we didn't know it was that bad. Please clean house. It's amazing the number one tool to reform the government. People are not using who say they want to reform the government. They're too embarrassed. They're afraid of what men will think. We need to be afraid of what God thinks. The certainty is we are going to die. And when I was first asked to make this movie, I turned it down because it looked like maybe they did fake the moon landing. And if I start investigating this, it could be dangerous. I'm not going to risk my life for what Nixon did all those years ago. But after I started reading the Bible about right and wrong judgment day,

39:40I realized that faking the moon landing is actually more historic and more significant than if they had actually gone. Either they planted a flag came back with 60th technology, even though they can't do it today. Or the most powerful nation on earth, falsified mankind's greatest accomplishment and murdered people to cover it up. If that's true, and I assure you it is, that's so much more profound historically than if they'd actually gone. So we have one of the greatest truths of history is the federal government faked the moon landing. That's how arrogant they are. And they murdered people to cover it up. And it's like people having cancer and not having a cure are not even knowing you have cancer. Why is there gutless people in the federal government? No one has the guts to tell the truth. After five years of change, I changed my mind. I said, I'm going to die anyway.

40:42This is worth dying for. If they fake the moon landing, that's a cancer. The public doesn't even know exists. And the people who did it are going to stay in power until it's exposed. The other red flag is also that it's only Americans who supposedly went to the moon. No other country. Well, yeah. After the sound barrier was broken, how long before another nation broke the sound barrier? Probably the same year, I would think. After the atom was split in 1945, how long before the Soviets split the atom? I think two years later. So I don't see why somebody can fly to the moon on the first attempt. I mean, on the first attempt, right? NASA has never kept a schedule and their entire existence except the most complicated mission of all time. They were at a schedule. So if you could go to the moon, right, with one minute, the computing power of a cell phone,

41:42anybody and everybody should be able to go to the moon today. And yet they can't. I got an email three years ago from one of my critics saying, Artemis is going to have people walking on the moon next year. What are you going to do then? I said, I assure you they will postpone it. Got an email three days ago. Artemis is going to have people, you know, on the moon or orbiting the moon this year. What are you going to do then? I'll tell you what, I will wager you a million dollars, a million to one. That they will not keep their schedule, right? I'll pay you a billion dollars if they keep their schedule. And you pay me, you pay me a million if they don't. I'll give you a million to one odds on a million dollars that they will not keep their schedule. And they won't, they haven't. They keep postponing it. They said in 2014, they're going to have people orbiting the moon in 2018. And it wasn't until 2022 that they had

42:45mannequins, not people orbiting the moon. Okay, so you can play golf and drive cars on the moon and have parties on the moon with 1960 technology. And the best you can do 50 years later is have mannequins orbiting the moon? mannequins? One of the clips at sabral.com is NASA's own scientist saying there is a huge field of radiation. You'd have to go through to the moon. The technology to do so has not been invented yet. I saw you got a few years ago, somebody sent a link of a audio clip that was on NASA's website in which Nixon was supposedly talking on the phone to Neil Armstrong who was on the moon. And there was no delay. And then apparently that clip got taken down and got re-uploaded with gaps. Do you know which clip I'm talking about?

43:45Well, I think the one I know of was a conversation between NASA and the astronauts. The footage they had we uncovered got a sabral.com to see it. We have a third track of audio of the CIA prompting the Apollo astronauts not to speak until a fake four-second radio delay goes by. During the scene that we have of them faking being halfway to the moon, it's supposed to be like a little blue earth surrounded by black. The lights come up and it's a one-foot model of the earth that they created in the spacecraft. So they're still in Earth orbit faking being halfway to the moon. And in order to do so correctly they have an earpiece in. NASA asked them a question. One second goes by. Two seconds go by. Three seconds go by. Four seconds go by. And the CIA you hear him clearly talk. And Neil Armstrong speaks. They're telling him to fake a four-second radio delay. Apparently going or faking going to the moon six times you know they made a few mistakes here

44:49in there. And sometimes the conversations between Houston and people allegedly on the moon was instantaneous. How are you doing fine? The fact is the delay would be much greater than they estimated. Even today if you're on NBC news in South Africa and I'm in the United States and I say Jeremy how's it going it being two three oh yeah I'm doing fine. That's just on Earth with digital equipment. Can you imagine the delay through all the analog equipment all the foam lines the signal had to go through? It would have been a much bigger delay than they estimated but they were estimating and sometimes the delay was there and sometimes it wasn't oops they forgot. What does your research say though about the Soviets? I mean this is a question we always hear are but the Soviets they why haven't they exposed the US government?

45:49Well yeah the number one argument is it involved too many people you can't keep a secret from that many people and like I said the guy in the command center can't tell the difference between a real flight and a rehearsal flight according to the flight director so that argument doesn't fly and then the idea that the Soviets or the Chinese would blow the whistle that's not true either. I know someone who works in the Chinese space agency he says everybody there knows the movements are fake they're blackmailing NASA for keeping it a secret. Congress passed a law about four and a half years ago forbidding the United States to sell any technology having to do with outer space to China but they're doing it anyway. NASA is giving them duplicate plans to the space shuttle the space station to China and exchange for them not blowing the whistle about the Apollo program they have pictures of the landing sites where either you know the equipment there was put there long after the fact or there's nothing there some some sort of proof and so they're blackmailing

46:53them. Putin is doing the same thing we have a video on my homepage of I think something happened three years ago and never made the news three years ago and this never made the news okay so three years ago there's a convention in Moscow of AI technology the greatest AI technology available just like the latest cars at car conventions or cameras at camera conventions so they have Google's neural network not available to the public it's not chat GPT doing one it's 10 AI's hooked up together superbrain and one team who's allowed to play with it for a few days as it write a symphony takes a couple of seconds and some have it write a novel takes a couple of seconds and it has this deep fake detector program that's never been run so they feed it pictures of the lunar surface from the unmanned Chinese probes from 2018 it says they're real the foreground and the background are continuous it's really the lunar surface then in comparison they feed

47:58them pictures of the Apollo missions every single Apollo picture the computer said was fake had a fake backdrop so at some point the pixels and the soil were real and then suddenly they became disjointed out of line or whatever the computer detected it said every single Apollo picture had a fake background meaning it was on earth so he just had the smartest AI in the world say the moon missions are fake Putin was there there's a video at semrell.com but Putin being shown the results of the AI doesn't look surprised in fact he looks discouraged that maybe he won't be able to blackmail the United States anymore and that's in fact what a smart chess player would do I could have a picture of a world leader with a prostitute uploaded to the internet and ruined that person's career but then I can't sell the picture for a dollar can I or I could blackmail them one million this year two million next year ten million the year after that and that's what China and the Soviet Union are doing they're blackmailing the United States and

49:03another good reason for the truth to come out in that case bought what is the difference between Hollywood and NASA hmm I don't know Hollywood might have a bigger budget well I mean Hollywood and the Pentagon or whatever is called the war department after World War 2 and I think they renamed it that there have always been working together and I don't think there's in and of itself anything wrong with that if and I don't know that it was if World War 2 were justified coming to the aid of allies which seems like it could be justified making films about patriotism or joining the army or by you know stock bonds and you know with one of those things ration cards getting people a positive attitude I don't think there's anything wrong with that however I think Congress passed a law in 1947 that they said now that the war is over

50:09we can't use the media to deceive people so they made it illegal for the media to deceive people and then in 1958 I think there was a big quiz show scandal quiz shows were really big and time magazine had on their cover the smartest man in America who appeared to be that way because he got the answers in advance so they wrote another law that says you can't use television to deceive people which of course the federal government broke when they faked in the moon landing I think President Obama rescinded that and now says the federal government can use lies in video in television in order to go worse the public can do whatever opinion the government wants than that they made that legal they made line to their own people legal now you can make murder legal you can say it's now legal for you to kill anybody you want does that actually make it legal

51:09or right you see so what these criminals do is they write laws to make their crimes legal that's what they do that's how bad it is um do you think Elon knows absolutely yeah I know he has a copy of my book when it first came out and he's the one who said yeah it takes 15 rockets a fuel to reach the moon he said it so that's kind of an acknowledgement seeing how the Saturn V rocket allegedly went in one rocket not to mention Von Braun said on camera and then riding the largest rocket man time can build can only achieve earth orbit he need multiple fuel trips to go to the moon then he also said the Apollo success is a historical and technological anomaly meaning out of logical sequence you cannot have

52:11greater technology in 1969 than today is there any device from 1969 a telephone a microwave oven anything a light bulb that it that it's counterpart today is inferior quality to its counterpart in 1969 it's never happened in the history of the world just like I said Limburg flew across Atlantic 1927 3000 miles and 55 years later the best airplane can only fly three miles no one has flown across the Atlantic and yet look at the advancement and airplanes look at the advancement since they blew up the first atomic bomb one thousand times more powerful just 10 years later this doesn't make sense that NASA can only send mannequin store but the moon 50 years later wasn't Von Braun also part of the paperclip program I mean if I remember correctly he was one of Hitler's top scientists yeah operation paperclip was basically I guess a negotiation

53:14between the Soviet Union and the United States who were the victors of world war two there was this rocket technology that Von Braun had created he could launch a missile from the coast of France and it would hit London somewhere just pretty good you know for when they really didn't have computers or anything but of course it would hit randomly hit churches and schools and hospitals and who knows what and when they divided up the spoils of war the Soviets got the hardware because it was physically in Europe all the rockets all the rocket factories whatever but the US got the scientists which is actually a better deal it gave the Soviets a lead in the space program at first because they had the hardware but we had the people who built it who could remanufacture it and then go on beyond that and that was Von Braun according to the state department he was about to be prosecuted for war crimes during world war two had he not pre-deceased their

54:21indictment they were a year or so away from inditing him for war crimes because he participated in the killing of you know many people in his factory who worked too slow or whatever who were Jews who were enslaved to build rockets or whatever so that's the Nazi guy who faked the moon ending and he was in charge of the of the space program it's kind of sad and what what fascinates me also but is how the entire thing just stopped well no I mean you have solar panels that say they're equivalent of going to the moon when you had the first solar panel come out and it's super duper expensive and limited capability and then later a year later they were a little bit cheaper and the wattage went up and then they became even cheaper and the wattage went up I have solar power and just in one year I think they went a panel went from 500 watts to 600

55:25watts that's a 20% increase and without an increase in cost the batteries went down in price for the amount of kilowatts that they do so why wouldn't space travel be the same space travelers should have gotten easier and cheaper yeah what I'm saying is after the US supposedly won the space race nobody decided to continue the space race the Soviets just stopped well it's not so much a space race as it is just the normal advancement of technology like take take it in America the pilgrims landed on the east coast and every decade every generation they went further west further and further and further west until they couldn't go any further actually they could they grabbed a white a little bit later so there is no limit in space so if they went to the moon in 69 they would have just kept going then we'll go to Mars then we'll go to

56:26Jupiter then we'll go to Titan then we'll go to the next star right and see if it has planets they would just keep going and keep going and keep going there's no there's no technological investigation that has ever stopped in its tracks even today you have nuclear power is becoming proficient and and safe the about half the nuclear power plants in the world right now there's probably about 450 of them half of them are not safe if they had an electrical shortage because they don't generate their own power that's what people don't realize nuclear power the power only goes outbound they're actually receiving for their light bulbs in the nuclear power plant from the power station so if they're a blackout to brown out a solar storm they would run out of power and they have backup generators about two weeks of diesel but if that goes out they'll have a meltdown

57:28so half the nuclear power plants in the world will have a meltdown if there's a solar storm that kills the grid but the other half are newer and they're resilient and there's virtually nothing you can do to destroy them or to cause them a leak allegedly so that's the way progress should be with space travel as well we should be able to go into outer space cheaper faster there should be you know houses and ball parks on the moon but a dome where you can play basketball on the moon and one six gravity and anybody can jump up and slam dunk I mean imagine the money Hilton hotels can make off of that if there's a way to make money people would do it if it's possible the south pole has 100 mile per hour winds a hundred degrees below zero but there are people there why because it's possible it took six times to reach the south pole without killing the crew and that's here on earth and yet they went to the moon on the first attempt right it's never happened in the

58:32history of exploration right and if they could go to the moon there'd be bases there as well there aren't bases there simply because it can't be done if it could be done there would be bases there it's pretty simple that that's the amazing thing to see that the moon landing is fake is pretty simple just read my book or watch the movie and you'll realize they did indeed fake it the problem is these people are at large and if the truth doesn't come out we're doomed and so this is highly significant that they faked it they murdered people to cover it up they're still threatening as of three years ago to kill innocent people to keep this a secret that is a tyrannical government that means to change do you think they have a wool guy tell the truth about it well from a secular point of view probably not and what I think they'll do is they'll keep postponing I mean I think they've postponed returning to the moon 10 times so far

59:3810 times they've said they're going to go to the moon in five years and with 50 year better technology they can't do it and yet somehow they can do it in eight years with untried computers that had one minute the possibility of a cell phone so I think they're going to keep postponing it and tell some international calamity happens world war three or asteroid strike after which no one's going to care who killed candidate whether the moon landing's a real or not however there is the spiritual way of looking at it as we started out the tower of Babel was a rebuke known to the world there's a famous writer Ellen White she said about the tower of Babel the monument to their pride became a memorial to their folly imagine that about the truth coming out about the moon landing the monument to their pride became a memorial to their folly and so I think

1:00:39from a spiritual point of view God may reveal or force the revelation to come to light that they did fake it as an end times of warning to show us how far we have fallen all right but if you'll excuse a pun but we're coming in for a landing your website is a subrail calm that's where you can find your book or books and film which I think is quite good I've seen it twice in fact anything else that you can end off with well if the powers that be want me to shut up about the moon landing fraud I'm trying to produce my first feature film the producers Kevin Sorbo who also plans on starring in the film we're trying to raise seven million dollars it's a secular film that's kind of a fantasy spiritual fantasy I might

1:01:39call it that's my next project if I become a feature filmmaker I'll shut up and never talk about the moon landing fraud ever again so deep state send me some money haha farts the braille thank you for joining me in the trenches