
The Moment She Realized She Killed 2 People
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True Crime Podcast 2026 - Police Interrogations, 911 Calls and True Police Stories Podcast — The Moment She Realized She Killed 2 People. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
Welcome to your top true crime hop for the variety and episodes you're looking for enjoy 2021 ten thirty two thirty-five It's in fire with the address of your emergency. Yes. There's been a severe car accident Okay, how many vehicles? Okay, what kind of injuries Okay, you're not are you there anymore? Okay, they've stopped they've been on the way this entire time This is just getting more information for them for when they arrive. Okay, like I said we have a lot of help on the way Thank you for calling. Yeah, thank you 32 39
I don't know whatever's by the bottom of the The right car Okay, is it blocking traffic I need someone to talk to me the cars on fire. There's one car on fire a car's on fire from it, which car on fire The white car the Christ the car's on fire. Okay, do you see flames are just small? Yes, there's flames as well Is anyone in the vehicle that's on fire? Somebody that is not going to just stand alone with me have lots of help on the way. Are you involved or are you just passed or by? No, I'm not passing by but my friend's brother and sister were in the car Is everyone out?
There's there's still two in here. Two in here. Yeah, the driver and one in the back seat Yes 45122 for 86 we've got two traps in a vehicle that'll need to be pride out Um, I don't know if they've got either the two have a pulse Okay, I understand your concern. Yeah, I'll just have you wait back here. Thank you All right, these people aren't coming out of this vehicle, right? They might see in that right? Okay. All right. I appreciate your assistance. Thank you Well, you are all right All right, and we know that nobody's in this one Okay, we're clear here. Okay, all right. I'm just I'm gonna try to maintain some kind of a perimeter here
I Go who's in the car Okay, all right Is there anything I could do to help get this person out of a pole so that we weren't getting a pulse on these people Are you in the car? Yeah
This is our sister It's Yeah, it's okay Oh my god! That's it! That's it! Okay. 451-22000 people are all here taking pictures. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. And I asked all of them. Did you see what happened? Are you just here in a video? Yeah. I was doing their commentary. Yeah. No way. This is over here. Okay. Someone needs to talk to them. Okay. Hello.
It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me! Oh my god. Look at that. Okay. There's some people listening to us making videos looking cool. I have been watching. Oh my god. Oh oh my god. This is crazy. No, that's highly decreasing. We're here once again. We're here once Again. Yeah, once again. And again over here once again. That's obviously a little bit hard and hotter than today and now I okay? I have to do this now. I don't have much problems. I have to do that and I have to do this now. Oh, I don't have to do this again. Woo! Hey man, how do you do the whole you had? Your friend, you like it, huh? Yeah, that's okay. And this is Arm? Oh! Oh!
I have to be here! You're gonna have peace! Oh, no! Oh my god! That's not a family! You're gonna have peace! Oh, no! Oh! You're gonna have peace! You're gonna have peace! You're gonna have peace! My mom is here, but her car is up there! Is your car still there? I thought it was fine! Is she dead? Is she dead? That's all I need to know! Yeah, I have no idea! Well, she better be! If she's not on stuff, I'm on the f***head! I can't go f***head! I'm going to my car! No! I don't think you're able to... Yes, I am! I'm fine! I'm going to my sister! I'm going to my sister! Come here! Come here! She's gone! Yeah, that's done! I'm going to my sister! I'm going to my sister! I'm going to my sister! I'm going to my sister!
My car's gone! I'm going to my sister! It's fine! I'm not moving! I can see my phone and my sister! That's what I'm going to get for you! Okay! Stay right here! Hi, I'm Matt! I know! Look at my baby! That's all I need to know! Is she dead? No! That's all I need to know! I don't know! My very sorry again! Go to that operation! You just want to be safe right now! That's fine! I just want my stuff! I'm not going anywhere! This must be really hard! Yeah! It's going to get my phone! Okay! There are a lot of new locks in here! It's not! My keys are in the car! It's not going to lock! Okay! Where's your phone? It's in the car! It's connected to this! It's a next to a white plug! Okay! I have to get it! My mom's going to fall! I think you had it! It's with your shirt! Yeah! I see it in the car!
Oh! You found it! I'm sorry! You found it! What the f**k is this? I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! Baby, do you hear me? I hear you! I hear you! You're the bossy! I hear you! I hear you! I hear you! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! It's okay! They're both. Yes! It's a faster turn! It's okay! I don't know yet. Let's just catch a drive. Where is it going? I want to go on the other side of the road! A car! That's enough! I can't just start walking there! We'll take care of him, ma'am! I've got to get my truck over there! It's stolen! You stay with me, ma'am! I'm off with you guys! Okay! All right, guys, do you have any of the goings ahead of the county medical center? They're either going to head up in our rich or rich or school experience. See, well, I was told that y'all aren't going to raise your medical citizens for children.
So that they're going to rich or rich? Which is the burn school? They're going to the right to your hospital, that's the burn school. And that's why I hope that's the one thing that's going right now. I hope that she ends because she does. I think that's core like that. She just said that they just passed that hospital. She did. She just tried to do that. She just tried to goiesz her. Then what is her? Actually, they went to the county medical center. They went to the county medical center. Both were on the county medical center. And she tried to... She tried to bring them in still and she tried to go. I don't know why they should follow over there all the way up the hall. No, they told me that. They're all supposed to go to the hospital. That's a big cut right there. They're going to come out of these. From you all standing with seating in that area. We're still... We have to wait for the medical examiner to get here before we can talk to him in the cars. but they were gonna go 10-15 with this thing out. Who was your first name? Camille. Camille, here's what's gonna happen is we're gonna be placing you under arrest for criminal behavior operation. How? Well, you were erasing your brother. No, I was not. So here's what we're gonna do. We have to examine all of our phones
and that type of stuff. So, like I said, we can go two ways. If we have to put you in handcuffs, we're gonna, but we're gonna take it back to our station to talk to you. Nobody was racing. We were going 65. Okay. So, I understand that. Okay, so you think you're going 65? We weren't even going that fast. And I watched it. That's the thing. I watched it. And I, he was even behind me. So, who's squealed out at the intersection there? What was that? Who's squealed out at that intersection way down there? There's never witness that said that somebody had a smoke and all of the tigers. No, we did not. I, I even, I literally, we left at the same time. Nobody had wheels nor nothing. That whoever told you that is lying and I'm just gonna say like this. Whoever told you who said that, most likely it is probably white. And I know him. No, none of that. You weren't racing. No, I told him. For a simple fact, for a simple fact, I'm gonna tell you just like this. For a simple fact, we are black. It is a nice day outside. I know that the police are out. We see the state troopers out. We were not going for it. I said, we're gonna just go to speed limit up here.
He said, okay. His car. His car has more horsepower than mine does. So, obviously, it's gonna sound like it because I know how the engine sounds. Okay. I'm gonna spin fact. My car is slow. Okay. But I was in front. So, he knows it. I was in front. Okay. Obviously, I'm gonna be in front. Because he's gonna follow my lead. We were not going fast. She gasped on it. When I mean, she gasped on it, she didn't see him because he was behind me. My accident, my car was up there, but I moved it up here because it was rolling back and it was still in the drive. I want to miss out my transmission. She gasped on it to try to beat him. Okay. So, I appreciate you telling me all that type of stuff. Like I said, our process is this. Please don't do that. I'm already black. It already looks bad enough. Okay. There's nothing to do with race man. We have two people that are dead right now caused by an accident. Because she gasped on it. Okay. That's something you do with me, my brother. Okay. We were not speeding. What do you now understand? You know what the speed limit is? Yes. It's 55. We were going 60. Okay. It's not my problem that she wants to be a dumb bitch
and trying to beat us. There's not my problem. You placing me under arrest for something that we did not do. We have digital dashes, bro. Okay. We're going to get all of it. We have digital dashes. But therefore, we were going 60. So, you don't have to yell at me. I have to because you don't understand. Okay. So, here's what we're going to do. No, I'm not. You're not placing me under arrest for anything. Okay. Yes. Baby, I love you. I love all of you guys. Stay there. Please, baby. You're going to be in handcuffs in a minute if you don't stay over there. Please, baby. I love you, guys. I love all of you, guys. Let's go put it on. I love you, Mom. Yep. Yeah. And yesterday's day, he was forced and that was not resisting. So, Miss, what we'll do is we'll take a statement from you and everything you said. Can you take me out of here? Please. When we give back to our station, okay? Love you, guys. I'm going to grab that. Here you are. Jane, you got to pass her down. I don't have anything.
I don't have a picture. I don't have a picture. I don't have a picture. Listen. Back, I mean, we trusted. We trusted those that we felt were looking out for Dalton and Taylor's best interest. The further we got along in the process, the more holes I kept finding. Attitudes, amount of remorse, of accountability. If that would have come into play, we would understand we'd be better. But because it didn't and because the way the laws are set up right now, that these children are protected. A double murder charge in Dakota County. They'd never had one before. We were going to be the first juvenile case to go to trial. Because Leon was innocent. Camille was innocent. Dalton pulled out in front of them. I mean, you've read the transcript. He turned 21. At that time, he's freeing clear. It's like it never happened. I bet you I did 75 open records requests. I fought hard. And not so much on Camille's situation. I mean, you know, the source was adult.
It was it was fighting the juvenile side. Strangely enough, they they did make four changes to their juvenile certification process. The juvenile side, you know, they say that this case will haunt them for the rest of their lives. You know, that Leon was not certified as an adult. I found out there are 87 counties in Minnesota. There are 87 ways to certify a juvenile. The county by county, not even Washington, Dakota, Scott, Carver, none of them. At the time, that he murdered Dalton and Taylor. His probation officer was the intake probation officer. Four was the one that supplied all the information to the seven panel, EJJ members. And she left out all of his high school history. She only went up till eighth grade. And that of three vote Harrison. Four said juvenile three said adult. And then they would vote with him being 80 days shy of 18 with a history, you know, on probation for the third time. Two of them being assault charges.
We just said that's a conflict of interest. And then they would come back and say, well, but the current PO is going to have the most history with that juvenile. Okay, but then that probation officer needs to give everybody the same information. The French psychologist had everything had all of his history from all the way through high school. The seven member panel did not. So one of the changes that we that was made was all reports given have to be the same. You cannot pick and choose what members see what the other one, the intake parole officer cannot be the juvenile's current probation officer. The third change was with restitution. The corrections department determined the amount of restitution. I had provided documentation showing because Dalton 22 didn't have life insurance, student loans, had a car payment. Restitution was approved upon at $29,000 in some change. It was whatever I submitted.
I had the documentation from the juvenile side and it said, well, Leanne is only responsible to pay $8,500. And I went, why? It's $29,000 in some change. They're both equally guilty. I would have thought it just would have been split in half. Dakota County juvenile corrections set their own dollar amount. Most counties would leave it up to the judge. He's been out. Camille's in jail. You know, she doesn't have as good of an opportunity to pay this restitution as Leanne does. While they did change that now, it's no longer up to juvenile corrections. It is up to the judge. They got rid of the cap. They, in essence, had a cap of $8,500. The state forensic psychologist came back and said, yes, adult. There is not enough time to rehabilitate him. There is not. For the severity of the crime, he cannot be rehabilitated or she didn't think. She submitted her report the day before the EJJ panel did. The EJJ panel knew that the state forensic psychologist had recommended adults.
They never reconvened. They never gotten to a room. Never came together and said, let's look at this now. Two people lost their lives. This isn't a vandalism. Two people were murdered. Harrison Dakota County corrections does not like me. Does not. And I don't care. But they came back to me time and time again. I haven't been writing. They were only required to do a summary. And I said, Dalton and Taylor deserved more than a summary. They lost their lives. You people need to fight for them and to make changes. So that is another change that Dakota County did make. Once they've pulled together the state forensic psychopath, they reconvene as a team to discuss their results. And why they came up with what they what they did. Now again, I don't know how I follow that. I don't know how I track it. You know, they put it on a piece of paper and they said these are new policies. I did ask them also why they don't post it on their website.
They said they're not required. Well, you know, maybe if they would have done some of the stuff, they wouldn't have had a me, you know, where I was a thorn in their side for months. Judge Carter, I mean, this was like the last thing he damped on and he retired. And I get it even if the EJJ panel would have said adults and the state forensic psychologist said adults. Carter could have said juvenile. At the end of the day, it is up to him. But, you know, how could he have gone against two? He did not take into consideration anything that that state forensic psychologist did. He, obviously, we think Harrison, he made his decision before he even got all the details. That's how we feel. It's been nine months in Red Wing. Well, I ended up getting a voter Red Wing too. And I said, I want to know what type of a program you have in Red Wing to process or rehabilitate a juvenile versus somebody that's down there for theft or, you know, anything that you would end up at Red Wing for. And that is the only facility in the state of Minnesota for these juveniles that commit these higher crimes that if they were an adult,
it would be, you know, a prison sentence. Well, we, we really don't have a different program. And I said, so you're telling me, Leon is down there getting the same classes as somebody is down there for theft. They don't have any extra programs that they provided to Leon, the same counseling, everything. When I had gotten a hold of JST and Hastings, I said, what does Leon's day to day look like? I know he was taking, he finally did get his diploma. So because he was a super senior, he hadn't graduated yet, but he was getting religious classes. He was taking yoga classes. And I'm sitting here thinking, he murdered two people. He's holding here in the Hastings, JST. He's getting yoga. I mean, there has to be something above and beyond. Juveniles are given a slap on the hand just because they're under the age of 18 that shouldn't give them a get out of jail free card. In essence, it does. If there is a situation where they can be rehabilitated, that's, that's needs to be done.
But each case needs to look, be looked at. And when you're talking the murder of two people, you can't be the same. When we met with Keith, he, he agreed. He says, no harder programs need to be given longer probation. You know, he said, Veronica, once that's, once this blog gets passed, we're going to name it the Dalton Taylor Law. 18 that can't be this magic number. He's an adult. I get it at the time. He was 80 days shy. Been 18. He was arrested that day. But then he was let go. Now in Wisconsin, which of course is where we live just across the river. 17, you're automatically an adult. Now, Minnesota is actually trying to raise its 21. Wow. There were bills that went in this last time that none of them went through. But the authors were one was Bobby Joe champion meals attorney that said, you know, the age needs to be raised to 21. The brain hopefully doesn't develop until you're 25. Then keep them in probation until they're 25. They'll let them off when they're 21. You know, extend it. Yep, get it. But make them accountable. You know, and going the opposite direction of what, what we're fighting for.
And I emailed those editors of those laws. Not one of them got back in touch with me. Leon murdered two people and got basically 25 months. How can somebody that drives that recklessly? End up getting the sentencing that he did. Taylor was like a daughter to us. So we lost two. And it's something that they're worth fighting for. Somebody was going to die. Somebody was going to die that morning on that road by their hands. And the last time we had court with Leon was right before his birthday. And the level of entitlement from that family. You know, I was standing right there that could have given him an opportunity to say something to me. Her an opportunity and they just. Now, I had some words with them as well. And they weren't pleasant. But they were words that I had been wanting to say to them for quite some time. And Tiana, the twin sister, looks, looks right at Crystal. The mom and said, mom, she's nothing.
Don't worry about it. She's nothing. And this is the twin sister. They almost killed it. I just, you know, at that time, it was like, yep, you guys took two beautiful innocent lives. And you could care less if they would have taken ownership. Fall into their knees that day and apologized and said, yep, this is what we were doing. I mean, we'd be in a better place. Honestly, not even sure if they would have done that. They might not have even seen a day in jail. I believe at this time we can turn a page and not expect to hear anything. I hope and pray that Camille gets rehabilitated. The bond family, I mean, those children have a history of anger. Even in high school, we had heard about it. I'm hoping and praying she can come out and be a better person. And take the fact that she killed two people. She was found guilty. But she, she can still airs in the Burnsville Police Department. Are nothing short of amazing. They worked so hard on this case. And they hand delivered the packet to the Dakota County Attorney's Office.
It meant a lot. We had to have Dalton Taylor service at the high school. Over in the corner out of my peripheral vision, you know, I saw four officers. They came to Dalton Taylor service. And they just said that they needed to see them in a different light. These are four complete strangers. They were first responders. So they were there. And that meant the world to us. You know, it just goes to show you what kind of people. One of the EMTs, I mean, he broke down on the stand. He started to cry. I mean, you know, in young. And he just, you know, the tragedy of it all, he. This is a very tough case. It's a tough news. It's okay. I know. I'm with you. I'm sorry. It's okay. I'm okay. But, um, yeah, so. You know, they're worth, they're what's fighting for. Absolutely. There's a foundation called street racing kills out of California.
There had been an article out there. I've been in touch with her Dalton and Taylor are now on that website. She did reach out to me and asked if I would be the overseer of street racing kills up in this area. And I told her I'd be more than happy to just try to fight this. Because since Dalton and Taylor, there's been a lot more, um, unfortunately, that have lost their lives to just stupid recklessness. When you are of a sober mind, you know, not under any influence, and you make decisions like this, something's got to change. There's got to be some, some legit awareness made out there that if you do this, this is what's going to happen. If there was a place that we could donate to or ask our viewers to donate to as well, would that be an organization you want to donate to or do you have a different one in mind? Yes. That's the one. Okay. Yeah. That was a nonprofit. So yeah, any donations, if anybody would want to do that, that would be absolutely fabulous. Taylor had, um, she was very active with the lock to flambol.
Yeah. The reservation. Yeah. Yeah. That would be another one is is the lock to flambol because she was. Okay. She was very passionate about that. So when you, when you take two innocent lives, it shouldn't be too hard to get justice. It's just been a fight, you know, just. And that's what I hope to let this video helps. I mean, the more awareness around cases like this, the more hopefully there's a push for changes that to the law. So that's something like this doesn't happen again. It's got to, I don't have any patience for aggressive drivers, just to go talk to her. So I had told the dispatcher that Leon had been pulled over. He had gotten warnings, you know, and been let go. And sometimes it's just one person, one person that can go and have a conversation enough to have them think twice about what they're doing. And, you know, of course, and she's like, I'm so sorry for your loss. Well, then, of course, I start bawling. I'm trying to complete stranger on the phone.
But it's maybe if somebody would have talked to Leon, you know, and just said, you know, if you keep driving the way you're driving, you know, there's going to be consequences. And maybe don't my tailored still be here. So I mean, we can what up, you know, what if ourselves forever for the rest of our lives? Any kind of awareness we can bring to this Harrison, you know, like I said, I'm not done. I'm going to battle pages until I, you know, my last breath. I don't know if you have children, but, you know, your children teach you things. I was very grateful to be his mom, you know, for 22 years. I would have loved to have had him for another 66, but that was taken from us. And another family can't go through what. Now you've listened. Now go to your thing.
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