The Kevin Karius Show - Mar. 9th, 2026 - Hour 3

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2:02the Tampa Bay Buffalo game, and there was some nastiness in this game. None more so that I think then Brandon Hagle going after Rasmus Deline started in front of the net, and then basically went after him as the two moved over. He got a double minor, double minor. That's what he got. Do you think that there should be some supplemental discipline for what Brandon Hagle did to Rasmus Deline? No, I don't think so. I think that's just playing hard, and we had this text come in about a Deline who has taken obviously a big stick in the face from Malkin that got him a five-game suspension. There was another Matthew's right game, and so it was like, the people just hate Rasmus Deline or why does he seem to draw the eye of opponents at such a violent nature? I think he plays with an edge, which isn't something that we often think about because he is so offensively inclined that he's such a good skater, and you know, you deny it all you want, but he's Swedish. He's European, so that stereotype still exists,

3:05and a lot of people's heads when evaluating players that you don't see the Euros play with that type of bite as often, especially when you're talking to Fenceman. We think of Nick Lidstrom and the like, but he kind of has a little bit of that Victor Headman, and where he doesn't shy away from that element to the game, and he can be a bit of a stickman. 100%, right? Like he has that kind of a dirtiness to him that clearly rubs a lot of opponents the wrong way, and as a result, when they get a chance to take an extra lick, even crossing a line in the process, they don't really seem to shy away from doing so, and hey, for me, I would love that from my team captain, from my best player, my best defenseman. I'm glad that he kind of has that, because at worst, might get you some really good pedal, the power play opportunities at times, because teams just seem to hate playing against him. And like I said, give him a little extra whack and jab and punch here and there. I think a lot of the people in Buffalo aren't too happy about the Hegel thing of the league. I wouldn't be. And to me, it went on for quite a few punches to,

4:06and that was something that they were trying to eliminate as well, and they're still trying to eliminate. Down the road, there's something about this one. I think they got to have a little bit of a look at this and see what happens moving forward. The winners with a kind of a travel day, then they head to Colorado, play the avalanche. Right now, the avalanche going into this game, I mean, odds on favorite. I mean, they would be the favorite to win the Stanley Cup, most notably because of what they did at the deadline. And I think when we left the airwaves on Friday, Duke at 11 o'clock, Colorado still was maybe working on the big trade that came in way later. Didn't come in till, it didn't probably wasn't processed for at least an hour after the deadline, in Nas and Codry, picking up Codry from Calgary. So that solidifies their center ice position. They got some depth and power up the middle more, so then probably any other team in the NHL.

5:08So, you know, you also get Brett Kulak with a trade that they made earlier, and then Nicholas Waw, who comes over from Toronto. So, I mean, the moves that Chris McFarland and the general manager made at the deadline are as good. I think when people were grading the trade deadline teams that did well, Colorado's probably at the top of everyone's list. And that was in the case at two o'clock. But it was definitely the case at three o'clock when Nas and Codry's announcement came. We'll hear from Chris Noblock a little bit later in the show probably in that 10 o'clock hour as we discuss the Oedars, big win last night. Four, two in Vegas. The Oedars now appoint back of the Golden Knights in the Pacific standings and also three points back of Anaheim. Anaheim does have one game in hand on both Vegas and Edmonton. So Anaheim did 73, Vegas at 72. And the Oedars are at 70.

6:10I had a couple of texts earlier to about how team Canada is doing at the Paralympics in Italy. And so far, the Canadians have seven medals. One gold, three silver and three bronze. So China leads the medal count with 17, eight gold, five silver, and four bronze. So we will discuss that as we move forward in the week. Sean Texan, Hagel instant reminds me of the Bertuzzi Moore play. The league should at least look at it. OK, so there are the similarities. I wouldn't say they're exactly like because the Moore Bertuzzi was, well, just how everything shook down. There was almost like premeditated, it seemed. But and it was a lot more violent, I think, than this one. But there is, there is something there. And I mean, even here, like HVAC, Nick is saying, OK,

7:12Hagel, Bertuzzi without the major injury. Lance, I don't see the attack on DeLine much different than Bertuzzi Moore with the exception of the result. A lot of people are bringing in that, the similarity and the comparison between the two, for sure. Coming up at 920, we've got Arif Hassan from White left football. We'll discuss the two release in Miami, Max Crosby being traded. Maybe see exactly where the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers have to figure out what they're doing here quite quickly. Do they not with quarterback? And they can't have Aaron Rogers sitting around him in an hall like he did a year prior. They got to make a decision. Are you coming back or are you going to play? What are you going to do? So because that basically, that changes their draft process and mentality, what they have to do if Rogers doesn't come back,

8:16you would think, because now you've got to be looking at a quarterback, you would think at some point in this draft. So that's coming up right after the break. Arif Hassan from White left football. On the Kevin Carrier show presented by Sports Select with the Ducat Dober and Josh Fenwick on Sports 1440, EM Radio, we are streaming on YouTube, X Facebook, Instagram and Twitch. Head to Whole Foods Market for Savings on Zesty Flavors. It's the Cocina Latina event with yellow sales signs throughout the store. Check out the meat department for marinated skirt steak with no antibiotics ever and explore delicious weeknight shortcuts with a variety of 365 brand simmer sauces, rice and beans at wallet happy prices, liven things up in produce with fresh salsa and guacamole, saved during the Cocina Latina event at Whole Foods Market. The hustle doesn't have to hurt. If performance pressure is making it hard to breathe, growth therapy helps you navigate stress, set boundaries, and actually feel like yourself again.

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10:19after your hello, penal pepper, popper fuel game night with the fellows that's Mr. Ruder.ca, as we welcome back, a reef of sand from wide left football. Good morning, a reef here with Kevin Carious. Once again, thanks for jumping on. Sports 1440 this morning, really appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me on. Yeah, lots of things happen in today, I guess, done more so than two being released out of Miami. What did you make of... And I guess this has been speculated for several weeks now, but what did you make of what the announcement was today, a reef? Yeah, yeah, I actually had a writer pre-write a piece for when, too, it would be released. So we knew well in advance that this was going to happen, but he joined a number of quarterbacks entering the free agency market that are probably going to sign for veteran minimum because they're going to make the same amount of money either way because of a quirk and how these contracts are negotiated. If you make a certain amount of money after you're guaranteed money, then the original team that paid you that guaranteed money

11:20doesn't have to pay you the difference. So you make the same amount of money either way. So him, Kyler Murray, a couple of others, will enter that market the same way, which will be an interesting option for teams looking for a veteran. I don't know the Tua is going to command a market like a starting quarterback. He might be in a position like Geno Smith where maybe that's the expectation, but I think more likely he's going to join a team that needs a veteran mentor, maybe even Las Vegas who are going to draft the number one overall pick. Everyone expects Fernando Mendoza and so he might be able to kind of guide that guy along. Do you think that Vegas is like a decent speculative landing spot for him? Yeah, I think that that's one of a couple of reasonable landing spots for him. You always want to pay attention to what's going to happen in other areas. So for example, if Aaron Rodgers decides he doesn't want to play football or anything like that, then the Steelers have an opening at quarterback

12:20and certainly you could see Tua playing there. But there's not a ton of openings that make all of the sense in the world, like maybe the Browns because they've got such cap problems because of the Deshan Watson contract that they're going to want an open competition between him and Shadour Sanders and maybe Dylan Gabriel. But there aren't a lot of areas where we can see Tua landing. It doesn't come without repercussions either. Arief with now navigating 99 million and dead money against the cap for the dolphins here. Yeah, no, absolutely. And that's going to constrain them a lot. Luckily for the dolphins, they exercise an option called the Post-June First option. So if you release a player after June 1st, a certain amount of their cap hit takes a toll on this year's cap and then a certain amount happens in next year's cap. But you can designate a player as having a Post-June First as if you had released them then. And that's what they did. And so they get to split that cap up, I believe in one of two ways, either way.

13:22They'll be putting a decent chunk of it. I wouldn't say likely the bulk of it, but a decent chunk of it into the next year spread out that dead cap hit. But it is going to really complicate how they're going to handle free agency and they're not in a position where they've got the ability to draft a surefire starter. They don't know what they have in Queen Ewers, a late round quarterback pick that they picked last season. And they don't really have a lot of money available to them to be aggressive in the market for a quarterback. So we'll be kind of curious to see how they approach that position. Arif Hassan, from Waidla Football, our guest in the Kevin Curie Show. You mentioned Collar Murray. Do you see him landing in Minnesota, Arif? That seems to be the odds on favorite, for sure. I think that there's a good chance he lands in Minnesota. Minnesota is in cap trouble just like with two of Kyler's likely going to sign for veteran minimum because his money won't change regardless of how much he signs for. And so that makes him an appealing option for Minnesota. Even if the fit from a skill versus system standpoint

14:24isn't the best because Kyler always wants to be in shotgun. He doesn't always do a good job with play action. He doesn't coordinate well with timing offenses. There are some friction points between what he does well and what the Vikings would like to do. But he's still at the end of the day a talented quarterback. If you can stay healthy, given how well Kevin O'Connell has coached a lot of quarterbacks over the years, there's an expectation that if he signs with the Vikings, they might be able to generate a lot of offense this year. Assuming Kyler beats out J. Jim McCarthy and Camp, which I think is the operating assumption for a lot of people. Also this morning, Cobb always make a bit of a splash here, if picking up Rashan Gary from the Packers, some think that the price is a little high for like the pick and even the contract, how they have to fit him in. But maybe they work on restructuring this deal. Not sure, but what did you make of that deal that the Cowboys made? I thought it was a little bit curious. I think for the reason that you mentioned, it is a little bit high. Now it's a fourth round pick, but it's not a fourth round pick

15:26this year for my understanding. It's a 2027 fourth round pick. So that kind of dulls the blow a little bit. But still, Rashan Gary had posted a couple of days ago on Instagram a goodbye note. He'd expected to be released. So when you go from somebody who's about to be released to somebody who's traded, sometimes you see like a sixth or seventh round pick swap or something like that. I think that just happened with Minka Fitzpatrick to the Jets in order to avoid cutting him out right. They just traded like a seventh round pick for him. So I think that that is an unusual price for Rashan Gary. And it's not to say he doesn't have a lot of inherent talent, but that talent hasn't translated into a lot of meaningful production outside of a really productive half year, a couple of years ago. I don't really understand the Cowboys approach here. I think they gave up a little bit too much. Like you said, they'll probably restructure that contract, but it is going to fill up some of that cap space for them.

16:26Yeah, Arif Hassan with us from Wide Left Football. You know, the big trade obviously on the weekend with Max Crosby going to Baltimore. What did you make of this one? Because it was a hefty price, but it's a hell of a player too. Yeah, no, absolutely. And that's maybe the best way to put it. It's two first round picks, the number 14 overall pick this year, first round pick next year, outstanding player, pretty confident he's just going to end up in the Hall of Fame when his career is over. And that's always a nice player to trade for. Nevertheless, it was slightly high, not that I think the Ravens were necessarily wrong here, but I'd expected them to go for like a first and a second or something like that. If you'll remember the Cluel Mac trade where the Raiders traded to him over to the Bears, that was two first round picks and they got a second round pick back. And so that was actually a smaller price than the Max Crosby deal. And Cluel Mac was not to diminish Max Crosby, but Cluel Mac was one of the best players we'd ever seen at that point in his career. And so it was a pretty unusual price for the Ravens to pay.

17:30They do think that they're kind of on the cusp of doing a lot of stuff. They need to improve their pass rush. They don't expect to keep a Daffet away. So there are a lot of things here that have put a little bit more pressure on them to compete right away, given what they've got in offense, what they've got on defense. But I think it was slightly high. I still kind of like the move. He's an outstanding player. Were you surprised that the Seahawks didn't tag Kenneth Walker the third and also to pony on that? Where do you think that the MVP of the Super Bowl, where's a good fit? Where do you think he could resurface? Yeah, I was a little bit surprised, but I was told that the combine that it wasn't going to happen. And so I guess I had a little bit of preparation that that wasn't going to happen. But I think some of it is that the Seahawks are always capable of finding running back talent. I think maybe it's a little bit easy to be overconfident in that. I think that that might be where they are because they've had a couple of very successful drafts. But they've got Zack Sharbinay on the roster, so they're not going to be hurting for running back. And so maybe that's why they didn't want to commit

18:31to a tag which puts a bunch of cap pressure on you right away. As for where he might land, there's a couple of places that might fit well. Again, if Minnesota was in a better cap environment situation with the release of Aaron Jones, he could be a decent fit there. He replicates some of the skill sets of Jordan Mason. Personally, I could see him being a Kansas City Chief. They always like having these consistent backs that always get you four or five yards. They have a couple of backs that are always going to get you maybe 30 yards or negative two yards, but they love those consistent backs. That's why they keep adding cream hunt. That's why they draft a Clydes Edwards layer. That's why they drafted Isaiah Pacheco. That's why they kept running the ball with Isaiah Pacheco. And Kenneth Walker can do that and get you some explicit plays. And so I think that would be a good spot for the Chiefs to try and recapture some of the magic that they've had a couple of years ago. Can he turn into like more of a bell call back or you feel I mean, he handled that when Charbonne went down, but is a team ready and willing to commit

19:34to that kind of workload with them, you think? I think very few teams are willing to commit to that kind of workload for almost any running back. I think even a great player like Kenneth Walker, the Chiefs will probably find some way to supplement his workload. But if they're in a situation just like the Siox were this year, where Charbonne went down, if they're in a situation where they have to rely on Kenneth Walker for a couple of games at a time or even maybe half the season, I think they're very comfortable relying on that and giving them the full workload as a running back. So I wouldn't be that concerned about it, but I do think the Chiefs do like to have a couple of backs on the roster. It's not as aggressive as someone like Seattle or what Minnesota did this year, but certainly I think that they do like to have a couple of backs on the roster and kind of spell their running backs a little bit. And I think that they would try to have that approach, you know, if they add a Kenneth Walker. Arif Hassan from Widelah Football, our guest on the Kevin Carri show here on Sports 1440. What kind of market do you think there is for Malik Willis moving forward here? There's all kinds of talk and rumors that, you know, some team is going to throw maybe 30 million bucks

20:36plus his way. For me, I think that's just a crazy number, but where do you see this kind of shaking down with Malik Willis here, Arif? Yeah, I try to find it as much as I could at the NFL combine about this. And I got a bunch of different answers. I got a couple of people that said that they would expect him to get $32 million a year. And I asked, like, well, I'm talking to you, are you the team that's going to give him 32? And they said no, right? And so, you know, they don't know of a team. They just expect that to happen. And other people said they wouldn't expect something like $20 million a year. Remember when Sam Donald's under the Vikings, it was like, well, like 14 million something like that, maybe $10 million a year. And these kind of revival projects, even though we got to see Malik Willis play really well for about six games, these revival projects don't actually get that much value in the market. Now that we've kind of been treated to the examples again and again, of quarterbacks in a small sample size, not being able to replicate what they did. I think a lot of people remember Matt Flynn from a number of years ago, right before the Seahawks.

21:37Well, actually, the same year, the Seahawks drafted Russell Wilson. And I think that that lesson is kind of stuck with people for a long time. And I think that that'll maybe depress Malik Willis's market, but it is a little bit different because it was a larger sample size and also his production numbers are through the roof compared to everybody else. Assuming you kind of move the thresholds and the statistical minimums and stuff like that, he did play pretty outstandingly well. He manipulated pockets in ways that you didn't expect him to do. So certainly, I think he's going to be north of $20 million where between 20 and 30, he's going to land. I have no idea where he's going to end up, I have no idea. I know the Arizona and Miami are interested. I'm sure some other teams are probably interested. The Browns probably would be interested if they had the cap space for it. So he'll have a market developed for him, but whether he can turn that into something like, I know at one point someone was like, yeah, he's going to get a contract with $100 million total over three years. I don't think that's going to happen, but that I think is the goal.

22:37We'll see. Real unreal. Starting to hear more and more like the stories getting more and more legs about Travis Kelsey, coming back for another season. What do you think of that? What are you hearing on that, Arif? Yeah, no, I mean, it sounds a little bit more and more like that's something that he's going to do. I don't know if it's going to be with the Chiefs, which would be a really interesting dynamic. I mean, he's been with them since he was drafted, I think 2013. He's an icon of the franchise. I mean, he'll have a market wherever he goes for two pretty obvious reasons. One is that he's still a fairly talented tight end. Not quite as talented as he was three, four years ago, of course, but his instinct for finding space, his physicality at the catchpoint. Those are still going to be there, even as his speed has dropped off. And I think a lot of teams are going to value that. He does play a lot more intuitively than a lot of tight ends do, which worked really well with Patrick Mahomes. We'll see if it works in a new system. And then of course, the second reason is that it's a phenomenal business decision for any franchise to bring him in, just because of the Taylor Swift effect.

23:39I mean, that's just going to get you a couple of dollars walking into your building. So I'm sure a couple of teams are going to be interested for both of those reasons, but certainly with an eye towards the second. Yeah, no kidding. Where do you think the future holds for AJ Brown? And we were talking about him last week in the sense that with what happened with Stefan Diggs and maybe a possibility for him to head back to and be sort of reunited in New England here. Yeah, New England still remains my top spot for AJ Brando Land and Trade. Obviously, there's the Mike Vrable connection. We've talked about that. We know that they've got that opportunity or opening because of Stefan Diggs leaving. And of course, even if they hadn't let go of Stefan Diggs, it would have made sense to add AJ Brown because that is just not an outstanding receiving core by itself. Drake May is showing a lot of talent and you want to strike while the iron is hot. It does create a little bit of an interesting issue because you can cut a player with a post-junifers designation.

24:39But I don't believe you have the ability to necessarily trade a player with a post-junifers designation if you also want to designate that player, or designate a different player with that post-junifers designation, which is going to be the requirement for a trade for AJ Brando. I do think that the Eagles will still explore designating that in the trade, but that creates a lot of logistical problems. So we'll see if he physically does get traded after June 1st or if he gets traded soon, which will allow the Eagles to spread that cap head out because if they don't do that, they're going to take a huge hit in their cap, be something like negative 49 in cap space if they just trade them. So yeah, I think the Patriots are probably the top option. I'm sure other teams that want to build around a young quarterback will want him. I'm sure the Raiders are interested. Tom Brady has always been eyeing the kind of receiver talent that Las Vegas doesn't exactly have right now,

25:41and he's probed the market quietly for a little bit. But a ton of teams would be really, really happy to have him for a lot of different reasons. I wouldn't be shocked if the Raims were interested. Of course, they did just trade a bunch of assets away for Trent McDuffey. So they're probably not going to be able to actually leverage anything, but there are all kinds of teams that are in a window where they think they can win pretty soon where they're going to want AJ Brown. And they're going to throw in the ball unlike the Eagles. Just regarding the NFL draft here, Arif, and just everyone assumes that the Raiders are going to take Fernando Mendoza. How do you see things shaking down after that, though, because there's a number of ways that things can go here? Yeah, no, there's a lot of questions, even at just at number two, I think a lot of people don't know what the Jets are going to do, whether they're going to pick Arvel Reese, who a lot of people think is the best player in the draft regardless of position, what the Jets see Arvel Reese, the linebacker out of Ohio State as, because he can play on the line of Scrimmage

26:42as an edge defender, kind of like Max Crosby, or he can play off the ball as a linebacker, you know, is like a Bobby Wagner, right? Or he could be maybe in that early Micah Parsons role that the Cowboys had where he would play kind of both positions. I don't know. I do know that the Jets want to be an analytically driven front office. They've invested deeply into their stats in an analytics department, and I know that people working in those departments typically don't see a lot of value in drafting linebackers very high, and so there might be kind of a combat between the two, or if they see him as an edge rusher, that's not going to be a huge deal. Maybe they're interested in sunny styles who had a really outstanding combine, the other linebacker from Ohio State, they might be interested in the edge rusher, Rubin Bain from Miami. Now, he didn't have the world's best combine, I think because of the short arms. So maybe instead they'll go after David Bailey, the edge defender from Texas Tech. A lot of different directions you can go in, and a lot of kind of funny storylines that you can find yourself looking at. Like what do we talk about arm length? Exactly.

27:43Arif, great stuff. Really appreciate you coming on. As always, take care. We'll probably talk with you soon as the draft approaches and things like that. So take care. As always, thanks for coming on. Absolutely, thanks for having me. That's Arif Hassan from Wide Left Football, and our headline were the day brought to you by Mr. Rooter, the true goat of local plumbing that's Mr. Rooter.ca. When we return, we'll switch gears and talk a little curling with John Cullen from Broome Brothers podcast, and the Montana's Breyer, and what a week it was of tremendous curling, all wrapped up by Matt Dunstone's win over Alberta's Kevin Cooie last night, six, three, the final. That's coming up right after the break on the Kevin Carey show with the Duke of Delburn and Josh Fenwick presented by Sports Select. On Sports 1440 AM radio, we are streaming on YouTube, X Facebook, Instagram, and Twitch. Hi, this is Pablo Torei from Pablo Torei finds out. And today I want to talk to you about boost mobile because we spent a lot of time analyzing

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31:47But that was just unbelievable to see his emotions coming out after that win last night. Yeah, I think we've kind of said in curling for a while that winner lose, Matt Dunstone's going to be emotional. He's gotten a bit of a reputation for being greatly affected visibly by what is going on. But yeah, the first time in a while, we've seen him on the happy side of things. And yeah, they had a fantastic week. And I think for a lot of curling fans and for people who are inside the game like myself, really just thrilled for him. They're a team that works so hard, they deserve it. And it was just a fantastic display of curling and of emotion once they got to hoist the tanker yesterday. And I mean, the field that he had to get through the path, I mean, when you're beating Brad Gushu, the arguably the greatest curler of all time, you're beating an Olympic gold medalist. And then Kevin Kuhi was lights out.

32:47I mean, the field that he had to go through here, that's as tough as it's going to get. Yeah, I think when you look at the historical thing, like you said, Gushu obviously one of the best ever, Kuhi one of the best ever, I think that's true. I do think in some ways, we're not seeing Kuhi again, Gushu at the height of their career. Coming into the event, Kevin Kuhi ranked 27 in the world, Brad Gushu ranked 33. They're getting Brad Jacobs off of about three days rest from the Olympics. So on paper, I think that's certainly the case. And as you said, Kevin Kuhi, my God, it was like he turned back the clock this week. I don't know what happened. I don't know if he got a magic potion or something, but he was unbelievable. And I'm not saying Dunstone wasn't full value for the win, but I do think that, you know, kind of a cool story. It's almost like a passing of the torch, if you will, right? He kind of beats all the sort of top guys that are older than him to get that briar title. It's a great story.

33:47John Collin with us on the Kevin Carrey Show from Brum Brothers Podcast. So when you mentioned Kevin Kuhi like that and how well he curled all the way up to the final, was it just one of those nights where he was just off and his teammates and his rank was, they're just a tiny little bit off and what they were curling at the level, they were curling all week long here. I think it was a tale of two things, Kevin. I think it was that for sure. I do think yeah, they had gone undefeated through the field. It was their third time playing Matt Dunstone. They had beat him twice already. Obviously Matt Dunstone, one of the top teams in the world, the law of averages sort of dictates that he's gonna win a game eventually. I think Kevin, you know, probably won the wrong games against Matt Dunstone, but I also thought Matt was just very good. I think he had his best game of the week in the final yesterday. He put a lot more pressure on Kevin than he had earlier in the week when they met in the one two game and in the round robin. So yeah, I think it was a combo of, Kevin just didn't quite have that miracle hero shot

34:48that he had had earlier in the week and it just looked like Matt Dunstone came ready to play and they had their best game of the week. Well, let's get to all the changes that are, you know, staring everyone in the face here. And let's start with Dunstone with EJ Hardin saying that, you know, he's gonna hang up the broom and where do they move from here in the sense as a replacement on the front end there? It is an excellent question, Kevin. I think it's gonna be on the minds of curling fans for the next couple of weeks. I think now that the briars over, you're gonna see the announcements coming fast and furious. I think if there was an outside chance that Ryan Harneden was gonna join his brother in retirement, I think that's out the window now. They're gonna have a buy back to the briar next year. You have to keep three of your players from this lineup to do that. So I would imagine that locks Ryan Harneden to lead. So it's just a case of they're looking for a second. We saw Jake Horgins sort of conspicuously as their fifth this week in St. John.

35:48So is that a fit? We do know that the Horgins brothers have left John Eppings team. So perhaps that's a little bit of gamesmanship from Dunstone or trying to fit a puzzle piece in for next year. I think we're gonna see some other teams near the top break up like Mike McEwen, for example, they didn't have a great briar is Colton Flash, a guy that fits into that lineup, you know, great sweeper, really good hitter. I could see him as a second there. So those to me are maybe the top two options that I think Matt would have, but obviously you win the briar. You've got a buy back to the briar as team Canada. It's gonna be a position that a lot of curlers in Canada would covet. Yeah, of course. And both that John Colton with us in sports 1440. So just stick with the final then with Kevin Cooey. And like you said, he's 51. I don't know if he can go for another four-year cycle and that's how most rinks kind of approach this. But what do you think to future lies for Kevin Cooey?

36:49Well, it was interesting, you know, he was asked about that a bunch this week. Of course, as we knew, as we know, Brad Goods you stepping away, E.J. Harnand stepping away. I think retirement was on the brain for a lot of the reporters. And Kevin kind of said a couple things that I thought were interesting. He sort of said, I don't think I'm gonna go another four years, but he didn't say he wasn't gonna go next year. But he did also say that if he retires, he's just gonna quietly disappear and he's not gonna go for the, you know, the fanfare and I'm gonna announce it six months before I retire or whatever, that's just not Kevin's style. He doesn't like, you know, being in the spotlight like that. But I think Kevin, after you see him play this week, he's got to go at least another year. And I had heard even before this briar, you know, I hear a lot of things in the back channels of curling. I had heard he was actively looking to put together a team for next year. So I think you couple that with the fact that he just had one of the best weeks of his life at this briar. Kevin Cooey, we're gonna see him next year at the very minimum and he says he's not going to the next Olympics,

37:51but I wouldn't put anything past him at this point. Yeah, and you mentioned Brad Gouchou, John, and, you know, he did have the six month farewell tour. And, but the thing that's sort of, for me, like, listening to Brad, but then not hearing much from, from, from Nichols. To me, I'm going okay. So as, where's he at? And then, does Brendan Bocher, you know, he's skipped for a long, long time. How do you think that's gonna kind of play out here? I think for Mark Nichols, I think the reason why you haven't heard a ton is because I think if he gets the right opportunity, he won't walk away. But that said, I always go back to Lisa Weagle was a great player for a long time and she played with Rachel Holman and then she went from playing with Rachel Holman to Jennifer Jones. And I remember at the beginning of the last quad, I kind of said, you know, I asked her, what are you, what are you thinking? And she said, well, I've played for two of the best skips of all time. So I'm, I'm not gonna go play for some 35th ranked

38:51skipping Ontario just for the sake of playing. And I kind of feel like that's where Mark Nichols would be at as well, that I don't think he's just gonna play with a low ranked team for the sake of playing. But if he got the right offer, my impression is that I haven't spoken to Mark, but my impression is that that's why he hasn't said anything is I think he would play if given the opportunity. And as for Brendan Bocher, I think Edmonton Curling fans should probably gear up for him returning to the skip position. I believe he's gonna put a team together. I think the geographical, like flying out to St. John's all the time to practice with Brad Guzhu. Don't know how much he loved that. So I think he's trying to get players to come play with him and Edmonton. And I do think the Horgon brothers are also on that list. So I mentioned Jake Horgon as maybe a fit for Dunstone, but I could also see the Horgon brothers going there as well. I think that would be a really great young team. So yeah, I do expect Brendan Bocher to go back to skipping and I think he'll have a great team. Speaking of young teams, Jaden King out of Ontario,

39:55really had a really fine briars. Would you say that that team is the best young team in men's curling? I think they're in that conversation for sure. Yeah, they've gotten themselves up to number 16 in the world. I think when we say curling, we mean Canadian curling because I do think there are very, very good young teams elsewhere in the world. Danny Casper from the USA who we just saw at the Olympics Ross White from Scotland. But when it comes to Canadian curling, yeah, I think Jaden King's sort of in that pocket with his fellow Ontarian Sam Moibruck, who I think is a very good young player. Also Braden Calvert, who we saw, he's not as young as Jaden, Jaden's 23 and Braden is pushing 30. But still when we think of curling, I mean, that's still a relatively young guy in the game. So yeah, I'm not ready to crown Jaden as like the next great hope for Canadian curling because I do think there are some good young curlers that are coming up right now. But he's absolutely in that conversation as being a guy that we're going to see at many, many more briars after this one.

40:58Who would you say is the best young women's team in curling? In Canada? Yeah. Yeah, I would say it's got to be, it's a pretty close race between a couple of three named skips and Serena Gray-Witheres and Taylor Rees Hanson. But based on age, I would probably give it to Serena Gray-Witheres at this point. She's also an Edmonton product or whole team curls out of the Savile Center there. In Edmonton, they're all still eligible for U25 events. So Taylor Rees Hanson's team, they're just a little bit older than that. But yeah, they're really coming up. They're actually in Japan right now to play in the Karazawa International, which is a prestigious bond spiel. You have to get invited to go to. And yeah, I think they're one of Canada's best young teams from everything I've heard. They're sticking together for next year as well. So yeah, definitely looking at them as a team that will make some noise. And Kevin, they were 0.5 points away from being in the Scottish. So they missed that wildcard to Caitlin Laws by 0.5 points.

41:59So they're right in the mix and they're a great young team. John Cullen from Brunbrothers' podcast, our guest on the Kevin Kerri Show on Sports 1440. We've got the BKT World Women's Curling Championship coming up next week in Calgary. What do you make of the field for this event, John? Yeah, it's a bit of an interesting and I would say fun field. We're going to see a lot of new faces. None of the teams that were on the women's podium at the Olympics will be there. So as we know, Rachel Holman was not allowed to play in the Scotties because of the proximity to the Olympics. So Carrie Anderson won that. She'll be representing Canada. Xenia Schwoller from Switzerland defeated Silvaneteer and Zoni, the sort of incumbent many, many times Swiss champions. So she'll be representing Switzerland and then Anna Hasselborg, the Olympic gold medalist, actually didn't have a great year on tour. And Isabella Rana, their sort of main competition out of Sweden will be at this world championship. So it's an interesting field, Kevin.

43:00I mean, we're going to see some teams that were there at the Olympics, Wang Ruay from China, who's very good. But yeah, the USA is also sending their probably third best women's team. So I'm excited. Like I know that fans love to see a world championship with all the big names in there, but you're going to see some young talent that's on the rise that's very impressive. And I don't know that there's like necessarily a clear favorite. So it's going to be very exciting to watch in Calgary and it starts like in four days. So there's no rest for us in an Olympic year, Kevin. Exactly. How do you think curling Canada handled the whole Rachel Holman thing about the Scotties here? Yeah, it's tricky, right? I had Emma miss you on on broom brothers, team Rachel Holman's second, and she kind of laid it all out there. But it's sort of a double-edged sword because yeah, obviously, and team Holman would agree. Like we didn't want to play the Scotties a week before we have to leave for the Olympics.

44:01Like I think everybody agrees on that part of it. However, could you move the Scotties elsewhere on the calendar? I think is what everybody is kind of asking. And curling Canada's justification has kind of been well. If we do that, then we might get in the way of some grand slams, the provincial play downs might have to go earlier, whatever. But I also think the Scotties is the big event on the calendar for Canadian teams. I think in some ways, given the displeasure that team Holman has sort of vocalized with this, I kind of feel like they just have to find a way to sort of bully their way onto a spot in the calendar that makes sense for everybody, because as Emma outlined, if you let the men's team play the briar, how do you not let the women's team play the Scotties? It's as simple as that, really. Exactly. As always, John, gradient site, good stuff. Thanks as always for coming on, and enjoy the world's coming up. Really appreciate you coming on. Thanks a lot. Thanks so much, Kevin, appreciate it. John Cullen from the Brum Brothers podcast.

45:05Should mention just coming down from NHL Player Safety, the Tampa Bay's brand in Hagle, has been fined $5,000 for serving as the aggressor in the altercation with Buffalo's Rasmus Dalin yesterday. So five grand for brand in Hagle. I thought that they would look at this a little bit more to be honest with you, but that's what they come up with. Top of the hour, we'll get to some of your texts. I think we'll hear from Chris Knoblock. Also, Boris Rebalka is head coach of the men's sledge hockey team at the Paralympics camp. Take out a whole of Boris of the camera's product and known Boris a long time for 40, 42 years known Boris. Man, time flies. And maybe we'll hear from him regarding the Paralympic Canadian sledge hockey team, also Dennis Bernstein from the fourth period coming up at 10, 20 before all of that. Time now for sports 14, 40 update brought to you by AWS welding supplies in NISQ product sales,

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