The Kevin Karius Show - Mar. 26th, 2026 - Hour 2

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2:06up with Vladislav Schmid in Lieberitz. Check. I'm back with saying I was close to pronouncing it properly. And like last week, when I, it was like, I think I was had Lieber, like, you know. Yeah, I'm like Liberacci on your mind, because you're Liberacci. Liberacci. Liberacci. Yeah, I was wrong. Yeah, I'm wrong. Anyway, that's where Ladi is for the next month or so, and he'll be back with us in May. Time now for all the mark brought to you by Northgate Chevrolet Buick GMC. George Madness is on right now, and before you do anything, check out and have a look at the new massive autoplex. It's a massive indoor sales room. Come in, see the great folks at Northgate. I mean, especially with all the just horrific weather we've had here in the last couple days. Perfect time to go inside and check in the massive indoor sales room. Have a look at NorthgateGM.com as we welcome in Mark's Spector from Rogers Sportsnet. Good morning. Spec.

3:06It's going on this fine morning. You got some snow up there. I heard last two days. It's been crazy. It's been not so much shoveling and like it's to you know, you get to that point where you go, I don't care anymore, just whatever. You could. It's going to melt. Yeah. Well, it's actually not spectacular. We for the next week, we still we're still pretty, pretty chillier on here. So. Really? Yeah. You talked to Brian road up at Marmin. I'll bet you it's going to be some fine spring ski in this year. You should be heading there right from Vegas. Oh boy. Right from Vegas. If I don't have to go on that last road trip of the season, I'll be covering it from Jasper is my plan. Why wouldn't you? Hey, did you go out for your $25 coffee and bagel this morning? Just got my $7 Starbucks. That's all. Can't afford the bagel. Not in these economic times. Oh yeah. Yeah. You just put it on the Sportsnet credit card, don't you? Those days are long gone. Remember those days when all you scribes would sit around and bust down the bill and man,

4:09you guys were just pigs at the table at the trough. All you guys. First of all, there's not enough sports writers to put on a dinner anymore. That's fair. Yeah. That's the first thing. And second of all, yeah, you're right. My podium today is what it wasn't like 2005. Well, but back then, even like I remember you guys saying, well, I can rate this one off and I can send it to this editor or whatever manager. You guys were always. It was bad. Yeah. So guy had some fun on the road. Yeah. Put me in jail. You guys. It was one scam after another with all you guys. I'll never. I always remember too. Like you guys said, okay, let's work on this story. Together and doing let's not scoop each other on the road because we don't want to make the other guy look bad. We don't want to make. No, no, no. Don't even start spec. I knew some of those guys, but I was never that guy. Yeah. Yeah. What? Me and Danny Barnes used to go out at the heart. We both covered the other speed.

5:10I was a journal. He was a son. Yeah. And this has happened with my colleagues all over the country. So you'd work all day. You work against each other. And then you're the only two guys in the road. So of course, you go out. You have a bite. You go for some drinks and you're both watching your watches and you're looking at your watch. And then once deadline passed, you'd look across to him and go, okay, would you write today? Because there was no internet to find out. And either he ruined your night by telling you scooped your rear end or you'd say, oh, my story was better than that. You know, same thing. We used to sit in the newsroom years ago and watch what the competition did. What CTV did and back in the day it was a channel. Now that doesn't happen anymore. For sure. No, the fun thing about the newspaper era was that when you got a scoop, the other guys all woke up. They got their paper in the morning at the sun. They got your Edmonton journal and you had a scoop on them and then they had to sit and look at that thing all day long, 24 hours to recover because there was no internet. You couldn't just follow.

6:11Now a scoop lost about five minutes as it goes on the internet and then the other guy said, oh, yeah, we already knew that. And they didn't. Exactly. Yeah. It's not as much fun. It was a lot more fun. That was true too. I spent a lot of days with rocks in my stomach when somebody had the Edmonton son on my beaded scoop me made your work card. I'll tell you what. He made your work card the next day. And like even the like Jones, he would always have something like he'd go sometimes he was even true. That's good. Yeah. Well, you know what I mean? Like there's something. You know, he had so many. You know, there was the old, what was the old line? You know, you want to buy a newspaper and then just buy a mistake, right? That was the old line from years and years ago, get him in your back pocket, just buy a mistake. So anyhow, we do digress. Yes. Big one tonight. And you know, the orders have played Vegas quite well this year. Two games, two wins. They're close games, but you know, down in Vegas a couple of weeks when you were there

7:12for that one. Correct. Right. Yeah. And the orders do well here. I looked it up yesterday. They won seven of the last ten in this building and regulation. And I believe four of the last six in the playoffs. So Edmund has no problem coming in here. And right now, I can't tell you the orders are hot because they never put together any kind of streak. They won one in a row and played real well in Utah. So they're feeling good. But Vegas isn't. Vegas just came off from Winnipeg. They got beat up there for one. They've won four of a 14 games just for twice a night. The power plays no good. They can't keep it out of their net. They're not going well. They got to turn things around here for sure. So and I've watched the Vegas games and I'm trying to piece together like where it's gone south here. In the last, as you said, 14 games. They've won the four out of the 14. A lot of people, you know, they point their fingers at Mitch Marner.

8:12Stones just come back to the lineup. Ikels been very cold. Their goal tending has been non-existent. There's a lot of fingers to point their way at this team right now. I mean, have you been watching a lot of these games? What are you seeing? They used to scare me. Respect. They scared me. They were bigger. Tough or stronger. They hit. Yeah. I don't see it anymore. They were a big, hard team. You know, they have lost. Like, remember that fourth line they had with, you know, carriers not there anymore, hagges not there anymore, Nick was not there anymore, Reeves isn't there anymore. You know, when they were big and strong and hard to play against, that was a tough team. They had better goal tending. One of the things I noticed when I was just doing some research yesterday is if you go back five years, the previous five seasons to this, Vegas's offense is ranks out, I think, six, tied for six in league goals per game. So they're a top echelon scoring team.

9:14This year they're like 19th. So the scoring's down for sure. I say that's got a lot to do with Petrangelo not being here. Yes. You know, I think that's the guy that if you had to pick one player that's, you know, that guy just drove the bus, right? He's here. He could be shard off the orders. And then Petrangelo to me is one of the, I had him on my Norris ballot, probably seven or eight times, never first, but always top five in the league. So that's, that's hurt them and the goal tending. They don't have, you know, this team's been pretty hard on goal tennis over the year. They run through a whole bunch of them and they're down to, you know, who do they got here? Kira Schmidt. And Hill and Aiden Hill, excuse me, Aiden Hill. And I mean, neither of those guys scares anybody and neither of those guys is playing particularly well. So if you're not scoring enough and you lost your best defenseman and you don't have very good goal tending, that's hard to win hockey games, right? Yeah.

10:15I mean, I, Schmidt's been better than Hill this year and it's not even close. And Hill was the guy that you signed to the long term contract and you almost had to after, you know, one year Stanley Cup, so, but he has just totally, totally fallen off. Carter Hart was there. He's still injured. So I don't know. Who do you think the orders get tonight? Schmidt or Hill? Well, Hill played in, I think Hill played in three goals and seven shots or something like that. Didn't he? I believe he did. Yeah. Three goals. I mean, I don't know, you know what? I don't know who you get. What's, if the coach doesn't have a favorite, he's just, he's kind of like the guy in Edmonton, just looking for someone to grab the reins and run with it. If, if you play well tonight, you probably get to play tomorrow. Yeah. So, I mean, Edmonton's a little bit ahead because at least, at least Ingram's given you solid starts, you know, I'm not telling you he's been the best goalie in league or anything, but he's been consistently at a certain level. He's not dipping and going south on you.

11:15And now that the chord Edmonton is to see if you can get Jari going here and he gave you one good game in a row. So, what can't you, you know, I just, I think you'll probably play him Saturday. I don't know. So, I don't know who you get, but I don't know who they're going to Vegas going to throw at you tonight. Nope. Yeah. And for Oilers, again, you look at that and we talked about it yesterday, what they're going to do. To me, you know, I think these next two games are split. Some people think they're both Ingram. I don't know where do you stand on it. I think you really, you have to seize the opportunity to, to help Jari to find some traction. Yeah. You know, your team played a good game in front of him and he delivered, you know, just a nice game. I'm not telling you that he was unbelievably fantastic, but he was pretty good in that game. He led in too. One of them was total fluke goal that you can't play him a goalie on. So, I think you need to say, okay, you know what, there's, we got to get this guy going. Like, we got to play him. Yeah.

12:16Can't waste that start in Utah. So personally, I think they're going to start Ingram tonight because I think that was the plan on the road trip. But I'll bet you they come home and start Jari in the day game in Edmonton. I'm leaning towards a split in this one, for sure. Mark Spector with us in Vegas. Hey, you know, there's three guys close to 20 goals on the Oilers here, spec, and Evan Bouchard. He's at 19, Jack Roslovic's at 19, Ryan Nugin Hopkins is 18. So they're close. They're going to have, they should have six 20 goal scorers. Do you remember the last time that the Oilers had six 20 goal scorers and, and never mind, it was more than six that year. Well, we've got to be going back to the 80s, don't we? Not quite. It's in the 90s, actually. Well, it's in the 90s. It's in the 90s, which is surprisingly 90s with like Vince and Dan Fuss and Murphy and Jellin and all those guys. Jellin wasn't there. Well, you got right with Dan Fuss. He had 38, Joe Murphy had 35, Craig Simpson had 24, Scott Melonby had 23, Peter Cleema

13:19had 21. That's five right there. Three other guys. That's got to be like 91. Yeah, 91 92 spec. Three other guys had 20 and it's Bernie Nichols and a totally seminoff and Kelly Buckberger. Kelly had 20 that year, yeah. Because I always made, I didn't make fun of Bucket because he would kill me. But I always said, Bucket, you know, you know, you're, you're the only guy in NHL history Bucket that scored, that had a 20 goal season, a 20 goal season. But at your 1,000th game, you never had 100 in the NHL. Really? Yeah, he was at 97 or 8, something like that on his 1000th game. What do you have with? For goals total, Bucket. I don't even know. Yeah. Check on that. Yeah. He got over 100. Oh, yeah, he was well over 100, yeah, well over. But I mean, that is 1000th game because he played well over. He was 1182, finished with 105.

14:22But you think about it so he, like his goals, like okay, I've just, I got him up right now. It's back. He had 5, 2, 3 and then in 91 92, he had 20. Wow. And then what a year. I know. And then you're thinking, what do we got here, Bucket, you know? And then then he went down to 12, which is still, that's a phenomenal year. And he had 11. But then it's, this goes down obviously when he, then it was 10 a year, yeah, not, I know. He scored some big playoffs. Sure. That Dallas game where they came back. Yes. He's one of the all-time most favorite oilers. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Absolutely. Yeah. And they do that wall of fame. The oilers have his name should be, we should be coming up to pocket one of these years. Yeah. I think so. I would say so that he'd be, he'd be on there for sure, because just, and again, I just for those trailer commercials alone. You know, what do you, him and Matt Teeve, like I don't know, man, that is, that is Academy Award-winning acting, isn't it?

15:24I turned out a TV other day, there's Matt Tee standing there with a big giant, like, blow up statue of Homer Simpson and, and, and, and, uh, Bucky, and a bunch of trailers in the background. And then like, there's nobody's got to lose a net here. Oh, obviously, they're getting a couple bucks, but they got the, the one with Harvey, the Hound with the tongue rate with Matt Teeve. Oh, oh, oh, oh, boy. Oh, boy. So, makes the guy want to go buy a trailer cap. Well, you watched the commercial, though, that's the guy goes guys off the air. Oh, boy, that's good. That is a classic. I was watching the other day again. I was like, man. And there's like, how many is there? There's like three of them, at least they're not running the same one all over and over. Uh, what's on the go today's back? You got the morning, morning skate? Yeah. Actually, and early morning skate here, usually, uh, if they go in the same rank, of course, the home team goes 10 third and the visitors go at 1130, but here, uh, Vegas, uh, skates

16:27out at Summerland and their, their home practice complex there. Mm-hmm. So, the orders get to go at 1030 at the big rink. And, uh, that's good because it's, I don't know yesterday, it was like 32 degrees here. Oh, yeah. It's already hot. Mm-hmm. So, they'll go nice and early at 1030, get the skate in and then, uh, uh, then I don't know what a guy does in during the day here, a little bit of writing, a little bit of work on top of not sitting around the pool of 32 degrees, or I'd look like a goal, like, a time the game started. No, you look like Jean, that's all. You look good. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Steak is brown. Stacey Texan and says, aspect how the park, uh, park MGM is treating him. I can tell it's by the ugly puke green in the background. Go away. Yeah, it is the park MGM. Yeah, it is. It's, uh, you know what, it's a hotel. Yeah. Each, each fact, Nick says, what do you mean is bagel? Speck is already on the strip drinking his fat Tuesday, alcoholic slurpy. Yeah, no, no, I did take a nice long walk last night.

17:29It was like, it was like 27 degrees in, um, after dinner here. So I saw Jack Michaels and his beautiful wife, Emily out in the strip having a nice walking around. Good. A bunch of people in order's jerseys. Yeah, I bet. I think there might be an order's nation thing here. Is there? Yeah. One of those trips. Yeah, Duke. Duke says, uh, Tyler Euremchuk and the guys from other nation and the boys are here. Yeah, I didn't get one in with them last night, but I'm sure they'll be loud and proud tonight. It's always a good place. There's always lots of order fans here, always lots, uh, quick one that I don't know the answer to this I max is who are Bucky's line mates that year he scored 20 spec. We look in like, is it maybe Seminov that, uh, I'm just trying to, well, Marty Jellin on maybe. Yeah. Geez. I don't know. I mean, he even Joe Baranick. Joe Baranick. He had. I'm just going to be. I'm just kind of I don't know. Uh, maybe, maybe, maybe it was Mark Lamb. Uh, yeah. That sounds like a guy could have been Mark Lamb for sure.

18:31Seminov, maybe, uh, sorry, Seminov. I mean, I'm just looking at the centers. You know, so like, I mean, that's all obviously wasn't Vinny damn Fuz. Lamb would have been in sentiment. Yeah. Lamb. Lamb would have been in sentiment. Baranick, maybe in Seminov. Maybe someone like that. Yeah. Who knows? I remember Tony Seminov. He was a good old Euler. Yeah. Whatever happened to him. I don't know. Y'all check. I'll find out for you. He was old Russian. He was, well, he was one of the last guys that he was like, he came here. He was old Russian. He played under the, that spent a little time with the national team with Tekinov. And he approached the game like, like, the old 72 Russians did. You know, he played a certain way and he was a good guy. Like Tony Seminov a lot. Mm-hmm. Spec. Good stuff. We'll talk to you tomorrow morning. Are you okay for tomorrow or are you traveling? Oh, no. I think I'm not. But I'll send you a text. Let me look at my thing here. Sounds good, Spec. I think I'm flying early. Okay, bud. Good. Sounds good, Kevin. On the mark brought to you by Northgate Chevrolet Buick GMC powered by Northgate.

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20:36All right, welcome back to the big program. A 21 in Edmonton and time now for the headliner. The day brought to you by Mr. Rooter plumbing the plumber to call when the toilet mysteriously breaks after you're a Hello Pinot pepper popper-fueled game night with the fellas. That's Mr. Rooter.ca as we welcome back Frank Saravoli from Victory Plus TV. Good morning, Frank. How are you, Kevin? Doing great. A lot of comments after our conversation on Tuesday, Frank. I was telling you about our text line. It went bananas. You know, I thought about that conversation for a while on Tuesday. I did too. Not to say that you were living rent-free in my head. But I think part of where maybe some of the frustration came from, and I'm just guessing because we didn't talk about this offline, is conflating two separate things that have happened, at least from a national perspective over the last number of weeks. And that Tristan Jari quote unquote, incident that never really happened.

21:36That was from people trying to invent something from afar that aren't in the room and don't have a sense of it. And this was something totally different. Do you think, is there any chance that maybe those two things blended together? Well, and plus Leon too, I think. So you're looking at a few things. And maybe, you know, I probably got my back up, I would say I did. And I think you got your back up. And we're both trying to relay our points. And I think, to be honest with you, Frank, I think a lot of it was got carried away. And it got blown out of proportion, the whole thing with Conor on Saturday. And I think when I, and you obviously listened to John Cooper on TNT the other night when Anson Carter asked in that question. I actually did not see the clip. So if you see that clip, you'll, you'll go, okay, like John Cooper is going, nah, people are reading too much into this. And that's where I was. What else is he going to say? What's he going to say? Know the best player in the world is trying to torch his coach. What's Conor going to say when he's walking it back on Monday?

22:38But Frank, I refuse to acknowledge or accept that this was made to big a deal. Again, my, my comparison is this. If, if a star quarterback in the NFL does this after a game on Sunday, if a top end NBA player does this, you know, the best player in the world does this. It's, it's talked about all week. This is not, there's not too much made of this. This was a significant moment. And as we look back on this Edmonton Euler season, it will be a significant moment on this season. And it could be, I don't want to relitigate. I'm just saying like, but not too much was made of this. It's not often that Connor McDavid speaks up. And it's not often that he says something. But Conor, Conor's done millions of interviews, Frank. If he felt that he was saying anything that, if he woke up the next day, it would turn into what it was and what it ended up to be. He would have said during that interview, hang on here. Like, I'm not saying it.

23:38Like, I would, I'm not saying that John Cooper is the greatest coach in his way better in our coach and our coach stinks. If he would have thought that that's how people would have thought his comments were parlayed, he would have stepped back on it that night. Even Frank, because he didn't think that that's what there's no way that he went into the answering those questions that he was coming across as being a premeditated answer to be detrimental towards his team and his coach. There's no way that that would happen. Okay. So what were Leon Drysightle's comments earlier this season? Maybe you weren't directed directly squarely at Chris Knoblock. Again, Conor's done millions of interviews. And I think he would have said something that night if he felt that it was going to turn into what it is. And then to the media standpoint, if everyone thought it was such a big deal after he said it, Frank, where there were no follow-up questions that night, there was not a follow-up saying,

24:39I mean, I can't help that part. I'm not there. Well, would you have said it? So would you, if you were in the scrum, Frank, you would have said, so Conor, you are saying this and that and you are throwing shade on the coach. Yeah, I would have. I would have asked, hey, what exactly in relation to as you're mentioning all these things, gushing, glowing things about John Cooper, is that related to at all the coaching job that Chris Knoblock has done here? And that's perfect. If that question would have been asked, Conor's answer would have been, I would bet that it would have snuffed everything out and it would have been put to bed that night. Or do you disagree? In some form of the next question, though, about the Euler's coaching, I seem to remember some of the commentary that followed and the first words out of his mouth were something along the lines of, I don't know, you'll have to talk to, to quote Knobber about that. That, that's exactly what he said. To my point, why some string of that that was related to it? If there were a riff that is so that wouldn't be able to be patched up here, then things would have been changed by now would have been changed weeks ago.

25:51Maybe. And I'm not saying that there is a rift. I'm just saying that the comments were notable and significant. That's, that's all we don't need to hammer it out again for like 15 minutes. I think it's a really, it's a moment of inflection on this Edmonton Euler season. And on, I think on, frankly, a larger scale, Conor McDavid's future in Edmonton. I really do. So you want to go down that path and talk about his future in Edmonton? Well, I, well, let's say the quiet part out loud first, which is part of the reason why people in Edmonton get their backup when seeing those comments and the deal that's made of them is because everyone is understandably very protective of a player who has made Edmonton his home has, you know, put Edmonton back on the map in terms of being one of the best hockey markets on planet Earth. And there's a lot of sensitivity that comes with that based on how Edmonton as a whole views itself in relation to the rest of the league in the world.

26:58So like John Cooper's comments on Tuesday night, he says that Conor loves it here. I think that's true and accurate. But I also think that when he gets to this point and the Euler's have played as poorly as they have as the talent has devolved around them as there's not much by way of a future pipeline or next draft picks prospect any hope of future stars coming. Plus the moves that have been made this season that have further hampered that future in relation to Tristan Jari net. That's the frustration that I think you see pouring out it's not so much to crush Chris noblock it's more so just there's a lot happening here and a lot that's piled up on top of a very emotional Olympics. Yeah, a month ago for sure where he came up short again. And as you say, he's frustrated. So you're saying that when you talk about all those other things. So then do you think Conor's comments are pointed towards management then more so to noblock.

28:05I think it's pointed at everything. I think he's frustrated with himself. I think he's frustrated with this team. I think he's frustrated with the direction and where it's going. I think he's frustrated with the moves that have been made by management. I'm sure there's some ounce of frustration in there in terms of the coaching staff and how they go about their business. And here's the thing. And I think this is a really important thing for balance and to really have a true conversation about this is that when Conor McDoward is alone with his thoughts at the end of the night. Is he blaming everyone else or is he sitting there asking himself how he can be better. I believe the answer is the latter. For sure. If it's the former we're having a whole different type of conversation. So I don't think he's playing the blame game. I'm saying part of what you saw on Saturday was the build up of a lot of different frustration that came out in a way that was probably unintended.

29:11The one thing that I will say here Frank that Conor realizes that and this is on topic a little bit here what we're talking but also different Conor would say that since he's arrived here and since they've been in the playoffs. They have never had an easier path to the Western conference final than what is in front of them here. And I think it's also part of what adds to the frustration is that this ducks team has gone 16 and three in games beyond regulation. They're ahead of them in the standings also eight know in the shoot out. So what I'm saying and if you want to cut through my words is they've not been a very good team through 60 minutes. The Vegas Golden Knights are five and ten in their last 15. They've trailed for the totality of 31 complete games on the schedule.

30:11And everyone else around them has been stuck in the same malaise that the oilers have been in the kings the cracking the sharks no one's willing to step up to win the second wildcard spot. And so if you want to look at it that way that's one way. But I would choose to look at it a different or viewpoint and direction which is everything that the Edmonton Oilers want to accomplish is still right in front of them exactly. They still have a very clear and I don't want to say easy but this is their easiest path to get back to the West final that they've had since he got here. So as much as this season has been has gone the wrong way there's still lots of time and ability to salvage it. Yeah that's kind of exactly how I kind of started the our little conversation here in the last question or conversation but this team right now still needs to find a goal tender that is going to be average and a little bit above average.

31:17And they can get by with that until the real bullet start flying against an opponent that is a little bit more worthy of what's in the Pacific everyone knows that. Do you think do you think that this team can get back to the Stanley Cup final. I do I see a path like everyone needs to be healthy this defense needs to come together in a way that it hasn't yet so far there's not been nearly enough connective tissue. The way that they move the puck and defend needs to improve like I think they're fully capable of competing and I think what you do as you take care of your own business is sit back and watch first Dallas and Minnesota slug it out. And then the second round match up of Colorado and whoever prevails likely Dallas based on the math today and and watch those two teams go toe to toe and see if you know one could you know take a chunk out of the other and see if that provides any opening remember a couple years ago when when the oilers first went and won against Dallas.

32:24Remember how depleted Dallas's defense was at that juncture they were basically down to five guys. So then last year they just straight up beat them and I think this team one of the best things that it has going for it is they have a playoff know how. And it was fully on display against the LA Kings last year they got one window of opportunity in a moment when they probably should have been dead and buried with that coaches challenge and they took advantage in a big way and it was lights out from there on they know how to flip the switch they get some of their best performances from their best players when it matters most which is why I tried and not put too much stock into the regular season as a whole. Whether it's Florida or Edmonton or these teams Tampa and some respects that have gotten to the to or close to the precipice that. All that matters is what happens when you begin playing for keeps doesn't really matter your seed you're standing who has home ice what your path or route is just can you play best when it matters most.

33:33As I said franken when the top six here buys in defensively like they buy in offensively this team can go all the way if they don't the team will be what it's been the last two years and will be close will show flashes will show parts of games parts of the series where they can be better than anyone they're playing. But until they have that total buy in defensively with all the components we talk about will everything all those things the urgency the. The guts everything defensively like they do offensively will be talking about this team like we have been for the last two years I want to ask you can I just clarify what you say that do you mean. Top six top six no top six with the top six okay so if it's when when Leon comes back here and Leon is going to be centering the second line so it's going to be corner and let's call it Savoy and Zach Hyman whoever is going to be with with Leon if it's Roslavic and put Coleson and put Colesons very responsibly defensively until those top six guys play as hard play as smart play with the awareness play with creativity all those things all the qualities.

34:51Adjectives verbs you want to use that they do when they are in the offensive zone or trying to create offense when they change that persona and do all those things defensively that is when they will be successful. It's funny I just see it the total opposite way I think this team has it figured out from a forward standpoint someone like pod Coleson is the poster child for how this team is going to be successful. And I don't really think or worry about their forward group really much at all. It's how this team plays in their own end how they can help their gold tender and how efficiently they can get the puck from their defense to their forwards that is going to define their playoff success. I think it all centers around what happens in their own end first and I know you're saying a part of that of course is the forwards playing defense and the total commitment. But this defense on paper should have been the best that they've had in the McDavid dry settle era from one to six and it hasn't even been close.

35:55If you go back Frank to the Stanley Cup final last year and everything it's too to and everything is it's looking pretty good you got a best of three. And you have home ice and you think about how the orders lost those games and look at the goal that Matthew Kachuk scored when car McDavid going back into his own zone. All he's got to do is quick shoulder check and he's got Matthew Kachuk in his back pocket instead he chases the puck two seconds later pucks back to Kachuk goal deflation. I mean it's too nothing at that point those are the things that I'm talking about Frank those are the things it's small detailed awareness of the top six in their defensive zone coverage. Everything that I just mentioned in the last statement those are the things that they have to do where they are aware and creating and and magic in the offensive zone. They have to bring all those things defensively and then they'll be successful.

37:00That's all to ask. Hey the one question I had on Tuesday I wanted to ask you about James Hagen and his situation like is it similar to Charlie McAway a few years ago then or what? Similar yes the Bruins really have a design pecking order they don't believe in just bringing players right into the NHL. From Patrice Berzer on to David Pasternack to Charlie McAvoy himself their preferred method is everyone starts no matter how good how high of a draft pick that you start in Providence. And I understand that notion James Hagen says bought in and frankly he's also shouldering a lot of risk that people haven't mentioned or talked about because we know that the entry level contract is coming likely even at some point this year like I believe James Hagen's will sign this season. And play for the Boston Bruins in the playoffs. But what happens if playing last night for Providence he blows out his knee and it's a career ending injury he will have gotten exactly zero dollars.

38:02And that risk factor which the Bruins you know clearly understand that they're asking for to do it this way and to sign a try out agreement first. I've had a few agents mentioned to me in the last 24 to 48 hours like I don't know if you guys are mentioning or talking about that. Nearly enough. Hey one last one Frank just but we have 13 games tonight there's so many big ones like with Columbus and Montreal and even Pittsburgh Ottawa. I mean is there something one game in particular. I mean you've got to be just Rick bonus. How many votes is he going to get for coach of the year here Frank? Yeah I think it's a great question because I think what everyone's wrestling with is is 35 games enough to win coach of the year. I think the game that I'm looking for tonight is it's two and they go hand in hand but Nashville and New Jersey and then the Kings in van.

39:02If LA can win and Nashville loses. I believe schedule wise and analytically that the LA Kings are in the driver's seat to win that last playoff. Oh lots of lots done fold and lots to unpack in the sense that we're going to have a great race with several spots. Frank thanks for a great weekend we'll talk to you on Tuesday. Yeah and just always appreciate the respect the mutual respect that we have. I know we listen people watched or listen to Thursday segment. They were like look at these two guys at each other's throw. It's like it all comes from a place of mutual respect. Exactly and we had some texts and back and forth and for sure and I mean I was we all agreed. What would be the point of doing this? Exactly Frank. That's a talk and have fun and challenge each other. That's the best part. It's a place where everyone cares. How many times you like I've asked you something you said well this is bad radio but I agree or I said this is bad radio. This is bad radio and I agree with what you're saying. So for us to talk about this it's not like we're throwing access to the world's problems here.

40:07I'm throwing axes each other here. Well I wouldn't mind but we'll see. Let's see if Frank. We'll do that over a beer. Yeah and the golf course. Have a good one Frank. Thanks man. Have a good weekend. Frank Sarivoli from Victory Plus TV and the headliner that they brought to you by number. One overall pick in your fantasy plumbing pool. That's Mr. Ruder. Check them out at Mr. Ruder.catex833401440. We'll get to some of them when we come back. Declan Kruger from the low down with a low tide. We'll check in at nine o'clock. We've got Jesse Granger in the 10 o'clock hour. Yeah. Going in or out with the Duke on a Thursday. We're going to be going out in or out lots. You're a Duke in the next little bit huh? Just the two of us. Yeah. You know what? Next Friday is. That's good Friday. Next Friday. Oh, there's a next Friday. I'm going to be away. Which I guess you are. It's good Friday. Correct. I don't know. You're not here? I have no idea. Well, if it's good Friday, I assume we're not working. Well, we've got to figure this out because I was going to say, you know what, with Laddy

41:08not here, maybe Eddie will come in on Thursday. I'm Thursday. Hey. I'm game for whatever. I just show up when I'm told to Easter. We've talked about this. I think it's a joke. What do you mean? That it's not a four day weekend. No, that it's not the same day every year. A four day weekend. No, Kevin, those are the kind of qualms that you have with all of it is. Well, because a lot of people get Easter Monday off, Duke. So maybe Josh could speak to us more than you, Kevin, not necessarily a slighty. We grew up in different generations. Did we not get Monday off in school for Easter or was that just rolled into the Easter break? Yeah, the Easter break. Yeah. So that's, well, that's what it would. But then I'm trying to think about even in university because we would have a reading week. But that was in February. Correct. And we wouldn't get another full week off in spring, like at Easter. But I'm pretty sure we'd have Easter Monday off. So I don't know. Well, I think it would have been part of the Easter break. I don't know, Josh. Yeah. But what do you recall?

42:09I mean, I, what do you mean Easter break, Kevin? Like we're not, like I said, we didn't get another whole week off in April. I thought when I was in school, we had a whole week off. We got four days off Friday through Monday. No, no, no, we had a week off in school. What could have been, I know sometimes it did like meld into each other, though, like Brandon's right, sometimes because Easter changes every year, it was spring break was an extra day because you get Easter Monday off, right? I don't know. But like if you think about all the, all the, like businesses, banks, businesses are open probably on both days now. A lot of them. Oh, yeah. Like everything's open on holidays now. So I'm sure there are, but banks out there probably aren't very many banks open on good Friday. Yeah. But Monday for sure, I would think, I'm sorry, more banks or government type operations

43:11or traditional facilities, more of them are open on Monday, but I still think the vast majority would be closed on Friday. Good Friday. Mm-hmm. Well, all I know, Duke, I think we're off next Friday, is it the third? That sounds right. So maybe Eddie will come in on Thursday with the second, yeah, the Thursday, the second, right? Mm-hmm. Ah, if he wants. I don't know. Eddie's world, we're just living in it. I bet he does. He may help mess us too much. When we come back, we'll get to some of your texts, 8 through 3, 4, 0, 1, 14, 40. It's the Kevin Caries show with the Ducat Delburn, Josh Fenwick on sports 1440 AM radio presented by Sports Select. We're streaming on YouTube, X Facebook, Instagram and Twitch. The hustle doesn't have to hurt. If performance pressure is making it hard to breathe, growth therapy helps you navigate stress, set boundaries and actually feel like yourself again. Whether it's your first time in therapy or your 50th, grow makes it easier to find a therapist

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46:19coming in. I'm sure we'll be talking a lot about it. And it seems to me that he is in what position is he in? 10th spot at 470. Okay. Hmm. So Johnny T. and Matt Bushnell leading the way at 520. Leading the way. Both have Duke. And who did you have? Oh, you had Florida. Oh, right. That's Florida. The gate is Florida. So it's done, right? You're done. Yeah. I'm done. I'm done. Maybe one dummy took Purdue. No, there's more. MTR took... MTR is real. Is that his real name? It comes up. Uh, yeah, I guess. Wow. I don't know if you don't want to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to say who it is. But I will tell you that he had the best icon for our baseball draft last night, Duke. Yeah. His fantasy baseball team, the avatar is Kevin Carious's Twitter profile picture from his Kevin Carious circa 2007.

47:20Looks good, dude, who does it? Yeah. It's hard to tell it's the same guy. Oh, yeah. So, uh, you know, I was like, Frank and I, people texted and they go, why are you guys fighting in this and that? We're not fighting. We're just having a casual conversation. Spirited. Spirited. I mean, Frank has his take on this and we have people saying I agree with Frank and some people go in and saying that it's being made too big of a deal. In Monday, Duke, you used the word frustration. Yeah. You know, and that was the word that, you know, continuing when we talk about this subject, to be honest with you, we've talked about it to death here and probably too much. I just, I have a hard time believing that Conor McDevil would go into a post game scrum where you lost two games in a row now to the Florida teams. You didn't show up Thursday. You were okay against Tampa Bay and to be honest with you, you had a chance to win the game. You're down three two and you're up with a power play, not up in the game, but you have a chance to tie it as well for a buck 15 or five on three.

48:22You're right there with Tampa Bay, who most people think is the best team in the East. You're right there. So he's frustrated with the losing. He's frustrated where they are. But I would, I, there's no way that he would go into that and say and start with those comments, especially when you listen to, to John Cooper. And listen to what Vlad. He said, what, what? Lattice left. She meets head. I mean, I wonder how Frank would address Lattie being a former player and being a guy that knows what it's like. Like, I mean, Lattie's comments were, he was pissed off at Craig Button, pissed off at Frank in that sense. So I think we spoken way too much about this subject, but it's something that Frank, you know, and Frank and I were texting each other after the show on Tuesday. There's no animosity between the two of us. As Frank said, you know, we have, I, I respect Frank for like, people don't understand the amount of work that these insiders put in as far as, you know, on their phones, texting,

49:30calling, you know, between agents, executives, GM's, you know, as Frank said to me, you know, he's not pulling information just out of the thin air here. There's a way that he and Elliot Friedman and all these other guys go about it. And to be honest with you, the people that think they are insiders, they are not even close. If you listen and talk to guys like Frank off the record about information and intel, the people that are out there that you see that pony these guys, it's frankly embarrassing. It's, I mean, the amount of information that they steal and basically say to their followers and make it come across as their own, it really is, it really is embarrassing.

50:31833401440 Penn Old Ryan as a former RDTV alumni, I appreciate the banter on Tuesday and today, there needs to be more of it, both professional opinions and not have valid points. It was good radio. And again, I just thought, you know, his perspective is there. My perspective is there. And big D Dennis, I agree with you. It's time to move on. Time to move on. You bet you. Tom Tiers says, that is his last name. He's come in and MTR, I know you, I don't know how you got that icon on there. And I mean, that probably was a lot. What do you mean how, Kevin? Not everybody views what happens on their phone or computer as science fiction. That would have taken him a grand total of 30 seconds. Really? Yes. So I've got to get a new icon then. Yeah. Maybe I'll put your Twitter thing on. Okay. Then you're just everyone's going to be confused about what teams, what? Your team's name is Mickey's Manel. If I could find a picture of MTR, you should have a picture of Mickey Manel as your.

51:34I should. Yeah. You know what? What if I found Mickey Manel dunking his donut? Oh, that was Joe D'Maggio. Oh, right. Mickey Manel's the one who cramered punched in the face. Yeah, at the at the fantasy camp. Yeah. Awesome. I killed Mickey. Yeah. Well, Moose, whatever his last Moose girl grabbed me from behind and then all of a sudden I swung and I hit Mickey. Oh, man. And then what's the line after? He should be having a fantasy crap. Yeah. His life's a fantasy. Exactly. Yeah. People should pay to come up and live like Framer. That was that was the George when he's leaving because he's got the best line. I'm out. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. I'm out. Top of the hour. Declan Krueger. We'll check in. We'll talk a little March Madness. Maybe a little Elks. We had Terrell Ford on Declan in 80 steel earlier this week. So we'll discuss a few things with a little deck when we come back. Before that time now for a sports 1440 update brought to you by all star construction.

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