The Kevin Karius Show - Mar. 11th, 2026 - Liam Horrobin

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2:17It was worth staying up for every minute, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. I bet you liked the 10-minute review as well. Just to add on top of everything, why don't we really get the full the full impact of the game, but yeah, it was a good one. Much better than the last time Edmonton and Colorado played from an Edmonton perspective, but that's how those games should be, right? Like to what should be the best teams in the league, going at it with some of the best skill we've seen. So it was excited and I'm glad I'm glad it was a tight game. It really was and there were so many momentum swings in it. Even right off thought, I thought one of the key parts of the game, and we'll get to the McKinnon Ingram scenario in a minute, Liam, but I thought maybe the biggest point of the game for the orders was the lake goal in the first period by Jack Roslovic. It just gave the orders. It's sort of a little bit more confidence than what they've had and not just in this game, but over the course of the entire season. Yeah, and I mean, how many times have they been on the other end of that, right? Where they've allowed goals late in periods and it's kind of crushed them a little bit as well.

3:20So that was a really big one, especially considering the chances they really didn't really have any in the first period, only really the power play one from Nuge and then the Roslovic one too, of course. And it seemed like the the book on McKinsey Blackwood last night was a get it up high when you're in tight and he ain't stopping it because the orders got three of them that way. So they did a good job. I thought it'd just be an opportunistic and also being patient as well defensively. I think that's one of their big flaws this season is they've exposed themselves just by kind of running around a little bit. And I thought there was moments yesterday where where that happened in parts, but it didn't explode like it has throughout the season. So yeah, an impressive performance and a patient veteran one, I would say from who it is yesterday. Liam Harlebin with us on sports 1440. Well, your thoughts on the McKinsey going hard into the crease on Ingram, a five or a two. And to be honest with you, I don't know, maybe they could make up a rule in this case and just have a double minor keep them in the game, but I don't know,

4:24your thoughts on where the penalty what was called and then after the review part, me what happened? Yeah, I mean, huge call. No doubt about it. I wonder how upset Avalanche fans would have been if it wasn't Nathan McKinsey, who is the one who did it, but he was. And I think one thing that to put some context to it, how many times do Conor Ingram get hit in that game before they hit from McKinsey? And I counted at least twice beforehand. So I wonder if that was put into the counterfeit at all, but I think that McKinsey was just somewhat reckless in his approach to it. It was a harsh call, but because of obviously nerves, but I do think they add into it how Ingram comes out of this too. And he obviously left the game and wasn't allowed to return through the concussion protocol. So I do think that was part of the decision as well. I don't know if I would have necessarily called the five-minute major. I kind of like what you just said then is like maybe a double minor is more appropriate, because you're right. McKinsey probably didn't deserve to

5:28leave the game, but I nurse hits him against more of the context. He still probably would have hit Conor Ingram, which what he just made it a minor, but I do think the outcome of Conor Ingram leaving the game had a big impact on why it was named a five-minute major. What did you make of it? That and two, I thought because of how deep that Ingram was in the crease. Most of the time, collisions between a forward cutting in or an opponent cutting in happens at the top of the blue. I mean Ingram here was two and a half feet down from the top of the blue. He was almost basically on the goal line. So I think that had to come into play here. I think too. It was a pretty horrific look. As soon as we got the angle of Ingram, you see blood on the ice immediately and somehow it ends up cutting him behind his mask. It was a crazy, crazy hit. So yeah, I was surprised. I don't

6:29know if I've ever seen a five-minute major for a goal interference. Yeah, I'm not sure either. I think it has happened before, but I'm not totally sure. Liam Herobin with us on sports 14-40. Ingram was playing well up until that point. And then Tristan Jari have to talk about him because out of all the players that need some confidence, he's at the very top of the heap here. And what did you see from him in the third that he can build on moving forward here? Yeah, he definitely did. Obviously it's been a controversial week so far for Tristan Jari and it's only Wednesday. So I'm sure he was glad to get in and start playing some hockey too. But I think for him, obviously right out the gate with only what was it? 30 seconds or so the others forced him into making a couple of big saves. And it looked like he was a bit more than to be the word like loose, I suppose, in the way he was making no saves. But I thought he calmed down quite well. And it seemed like the Oilers weren't allowing too many major chances after

7:30that. Obviously allowed the goal against. But I don't think that was a that's one he should look back on and be upset about. It was a good tip from the Tushkin. But he just seemed to to control himself and stay calm in there. And I thought he was very structured as the game went on. And again, like he said in his post game through his other team played well in front of me. And I think that's been a big problem while Jari has not been anything good. Honestly, since coming back from his injury, I don't think the teams played too well in front of him. But I think last night, it was a good combination of both. And we'll see how much they have to rely. I would imagine he gets the next game just because of, obviously, the circumstances. But it sounds like Ingram won't be out too long. But nevertheless, like if the Oilers are going to do anything in this play, I'll say do need Tristan Jari to gain some confidence and find his game again. Yeah. And, you know, we're going to find out in a hurry because the Oilers can't mess around. They're going to have to call a goal tender up. Cal Pickard from Baco. You know, if Conneringroom isn't able to dress or goal or whatever here in the near future, I was kind of looking really

8:34wanted to analyze the two, you know, the two of the top defensemen in the league last night, Liam and, you know, Cal McCarrer and Evan Bouchard and Bouchard had a better game than McCarrer last night. I mean, there can't be people that would say McCarrer was better than Bouchard last night. No, and it was great for Bouchard to show up in the way that he did. But to be honest, when was the last time Bouchard really had a bad game? I know he made that mistake the other day against who Ovegas wasn't at show-handed. But I think overall, Bouchard is just really matured as a hockey player. And that's kind of what we were all screaming at the start of the season. It's like, you've got to be out of this phase now where you're making these huge mistakes, which is just resulting in goals against. And he's really been able to eliminate it. And I think with the way the other blue line has struggled a lot this season, it's almost elevated and just shown us how good Evan Bouchard can be. And I also think in a funny way, like him not being on the Olympic team helped his status as well amongst like NHL viewers, be like, damn, imagine if the other, sorry,

9:37Canada had another puck move in defense, like Bouchard. And if McCarrer was on the team as well, it would have been a great duo. But yeah, I think last night Bouchard just showed up for Edmonton. And I think he ended up with two points, right? And McCarrer was one and a don't give me wrong. McCarrer is still the best defenseman in the NHL. But in those big games, Bouchard showed up this time. And it's no coincidence. I think too that the other is powerfully is number one in the NHL. And somehow Cal McCarrer is running the one in Colorado. It's 31st. It's really wild that that seems to be it. But I think it just shows how well Evan Bouchard is playing as well. I got Merinsky's number one as far as blue liners going in the NHL. Fair enough. So I mean, we're splitting here is aren't we Liam Harlebin with us on sports 1440 for Moilers Nation. Ryan Nujan Hopkins two more goals last night. I mean, that one on the PowerPoint was just unbelievably sick, so tight and going upstairs. And then the second one was pretty good hands as well. And he showed a lot of other stuff last night besides the two goals as well.

10:42Yeah, I mean, he's just the most reliable player on the team, isn't he? I think you always know what you're going to get from from Nujan Hopkins. And he does seem to have these games every now and then or so. The others really need someone to step up. And Nujan Hopkins is the guy to do it. And he's just a good utility knife, isn't he? I mean, there's so much you could say about Nujan, but last night you're right. Like those two goals, like sometimes you forget that he was the first overopic in the NHL because he's been around for so long. But he's a highly skilled elite player. He was obviously at the orientation camp for Canada as well. I wasn't totally out of conversation for that. I think he's still among the leagues best for two way forward. So yeah, it was nice to get him rewarded because his offense hasn't been as consistent as you would probably expect it to be for a top-line player, but again, showed up in a pivotal moment. Hi, this is Pablo Tore from Pablo Tore finds out. And today I want to talk to you about boost mobile because we spent a lot of time analyzing inefficiencies in sports, overvalued contracts, money tied up in the wrong places, and so on. But those inefficiencies

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12:48You can search by what matters, like insurance, specialty, identity, or availability, and get started in as little as two days. There are no subscriptions, no long-term commitments, you just pay per session. Grow helps you find therapy on your time. Whatever challenges you're facing, grow therapy is here to help. Grow accepts over 100 insurance plans, including Medicaid in some states. Sessions average about $21 with insurance and some pay as little as $0, depending on their plan. Visit growththerapy.com slash start now to get started. That's growtherapy.com slash start now. Growtherapy.com slash start now. Availability and coverage vary by state and insurance plan. Yeah, two points shy of 800 now in his career. That would make him the seventh player in franchise history to reach that milestone. Also, you know, when Colton Dock went out quite early, really, that left him with 11 forwards and they really had to juggle the lines around. How did you make

13:50about the effectiveness of that? And even guys like Jack Roslovic saw obviously more ice and was in different situations on different lines. And Roslovic came up with that big, big goal that we were talking about late in the second period. Yeah, I mean, I think it's funny, isn't it? Like, as much they've finally found like a better consistency in their lines. And now guys, I mean, they just have to mix it all up again anyway. But I thought Colton Dock just on him. I think he's had a really good impact on the team since it come in. I know he's only played very few minutes when he has been on the ice, but unfortunately to see him leave the game. I do like his physicality. But yeah, I think the others should have enough forwards here to be able to do this consistently and move things around. They got a very versatile group obviously. A guy like Neuch can play center as well, but it would be nice. I'm curious to see. I think Henrique was initially labeled to play yesterday's game. But I think that maybe was more of a thing of like, okay, well, some ask his seal on this emergency recall. We have to say Henrique's going to play.

14:53Yeah, I'm totally really can't play. So yeah, I think I think the others just so used to jumbling lines all the time that it's nothing unusual for them. How much didn't you did a dry saddle and McDavid even play together yesterday? I didn't seem like it was too too much. Yeah, again, the lines had to be mixed up a fair bit. And then when you think about power plays and things like that, but you know, McDavid was just under 24 minutes. And Hyman was 2102. So I mean, when you look at the lines, the way they were set up because of the 11 forwards. And even guys like, you know, Samansky was, you know, sometimes he was floating around with some certain combinations too. So that's just the way it goes. And then the same with the defense. I mean, you've got to give credit to the defense when one of the guys goes down in Emerson played five and a half. So that's just part and parcel of where teams have to go when guys are injured. And we just even talked about the possibility of picker getting called up again. You got to think about where they are with a forward and an offensive. Yes, Spencer Stasney's probably the number seven guy. And

15:58he's ready to come in here. But you know, I agree with you, Liam, in the sense that you're finally in the last three games here after the trade deadline, you're finally seeing a little consistency. You're seeing some, maybe some chemistry being built between guys like, say, Fredric and Doc who seem to enjoy that physical aspect. So this could throw a little bit of a wrench into things here in the next bit. Yeah, you just hope Emory is available to come back in next game and then kind of keep a bit of consistency in that way. I wonder in that regard too, would they move Fredric back at the lineup and maybe put him alongside Paul Coleson. I thought that new all was pretty solid when they were playing together. Obviously on the blue line Stasney's just going to come in and they're going to have to figure that out. But I do think the trade deadline as much as I like to move that ballman made, I thought they were one defenseman shy. Like, I think back to last playoffs, like, John Klingberg wasn't either eighth defenseman until he get the lineup, you know, you had Troy Stetcher as well, Josh Brown end up playing a game of

17:00two. I'm sure I'm missing somebody else was like, for another defenseman comes down here, like, who you calling up? Like, atro Leppner, like, I don't know how much I want him to play. Well, I guess for Gula, right? And then he'd be next on the list, right? Yeah. Regula, I suppose he said, Regula's had a bit of a tough run here. I think he's a bit of an underappreciated player. I think he's got some good skill. But yeah, like again, like, Regula's a John Klingberg. Like, it's not much of a comparison, isn't it? Unfortunately. Talk about going in from the frying pan into the fire. He got Dallas tomorrow. Right now, I think what is Dallas 12-1-1? And it's last 13. They, if you really think about it, I mean, their time is running out here. Time is running out. But if you look at it, how the central division, central division is shaken down, I mean, Dallas has five points back of Colorado right now, just five back of Colorado. So things are tightened up there. And it seems like Colorado, too. Like, don't land this car yesterday. No lecheter. And like, I wonder how much that is, like, long-term stuff. I'll just

18:03like, hey, like, we're so far ahead of like, actually, we're going to make the playoffs. We just won't play you guys tonight. But yeah, I'm sure Colorado, I'll still finish up when in that division. But it's good to see so many tight races around the entire league for divisions. Well, nobody wants to be in two or three, do they? I mean, in the central, because then you're going through two very difficult teams instead of just one. Like, with Colorado, they right now, they'd be looking at Seattle in the opening round. So, I mean, that's how the difference between one, two, and three is when you look at the Pacific here and I'm come on here. Do you, do you like an eye in the division? Or do you like the Oilers? To me, Vegas doesn't look like the team that they once were either right now. But I think where the Oilers are trending, I think that they could catch Anaheim easily. But the ducks are playing really well, too. Yeah, I think the ducks really deserve to be in the position they have. If I'm not mistaken, last time I checked, at least they're the only team in the Pacific to have more wins and losses this season, which is just a crazy stack, considering the seven other teams in the division,

19:07and two of them still make the playoffs. So, that's really wild to me. I think they deserve to win the division. I still think the Oilers have a really good chance because of the way they've been able to turn it around. These last two games, I mean, they're limiting high danger chances against. And I think that's just going to help them down the road. Like, as little offense are getting in shop production more, I would say it doesn't really matter. It's shown that they can still be productive with the limited opportunities they're getting. So, if you ask me today, I think the ducks will win the division just because they're young, they're hot right now. And I think they're just building up confidence. But I don't think the Oilers are out of it. I do think Vegas is out of the division I'll run in now. I look at it too, Liam. I mean, you think about the how things get forged in a team, you know, how metal sharpened metal and steel sharpened steel. And the Oilers have that in their back pocket because of what they've accomplished in the last

20:08two years. And I don't have that. So, this is new to them going down the stretch. And all of a sudden, some bullets start flying that are bigger games, more important games. I want to see how this young team reacts for sure. So, what are you going to come up on, what is nation here, Liam? I think we have Jeff Merrick on the show today. So, that'll be really good. And then I'm off for the next couple of days. I'm heading out to Penn Tickton. I get to voice a V's play the Everett Silver Tips on Friday. And then a little bit of CSHL playoffs as well. So, it's going to be a busy couple of days. So, you got to do some scouting out there, then too as well. Yeah, yeah. Big event. A lot of the top prospects will be there. It's hosted in Penn Tickton. So, that's really convenient for us. And then, yeah, I get to see two of the best teams in the West. And we go ahead to that. Is that like a showcase weekend? How it works? Yeah, it's like, it's CSHL championship. So, they get their champions essentially their playoffs. I guess you could call it. So, yeah, it's really good. A couple teams from Emberton.

21:12They'll be there. And then BC one for sketching, which team, which teams from here, Liam? OHA Adminson. And then an Axe will be there. And then Edge from Calgary. And then the International Academy and then Sawha as well. We've asked you all year about Penn Tickton and how, you know, maybe the success has surprised you. I think at the start of the early, and you said, yeah, you know, I think just because of everything coming together. But has that waned for you a little bit? And then now you're sort of, everyone gets that belief. You start thinking, okay, you know, we deserve to be where we are here. Yeah. The Memorial Cups only in Calona as well. So, it's not too far of a drive. But there's a lot of work to go before that. Definitely is. Definitely is. But to be honest, I think that's kind of just become the standers. We've done so well this season. However long, I think it was a 15-16 game win streak. We've

22:13been some of the top teams in the league. Our players have shown so much resilience and proven that they deserve to be in a league, despite not being in it for most of them. And having only one NHL draft pick in Jacob Kozenyka, Radnevens did sign for Seattle the other day, which is great for him. But yeah, it's been awesome. Most wins in the CHL history for an expansion team. It's been an incredible season. I'm really excited to be a part of it all. And also, I get to see my first game against Ever on Friday, so it should be a blast. Cool. Well, you know what they say, Liam, it all comes down to scouting, doesn't it? I completely agree, especially the Albert original scouting area. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, as always, thanks for coming on. Enjoy your trip out there and the scouting weekend and enjoy the game, too, as well. Take care, Liam. Thanks a lot, man. Yeah. Thanks, guys. See you later. Hi, this is Pablo Torre from Pablo Torre finds out. And today, I want to talk to you about Boost Mobile because we spent a lot of time analyzing inefficiencies in sports,

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