The Kenny Report | 16 September

0:00Hi, this is Dave Roberts. Heading into summer without a medical emergency kit, that's a risk. Summer colds can linger and getting sick on vacation can derail everything. That's why everyone needs a medical emergency kit. It includes doctor prescribed medications to treat common and serious illnesses. So if you wake up sick, at home or on the road, you already have what you need. It's like having an urgent care and pharmacy at home. Say $45 with code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue urgent care kit.com slash blue. This is the Kenny report. Thanks, Ed. And thank you for joining me tonight. One of our country's top security experts calls out the media for failing to report anti-Semitism and rising Islamist extremism. Labor's promises to keep our refugee intake at an artificial high now, as it prepares to announce a new immigration policy. The West Australian government plays down the dilemma of Indigenous children,

1:01left alone in public housing. Shadow Indigenous Minister Julian Lisa joins me. Also, immigration chaos in the UK with Esther Krakku, one nation on the back foot with Tom Switzer and the Wednesday Rangle with Jamie and Justin. Let's get into it. For many, many years on this station and elsewhere, I've highlighted and tackled Islamist extremism. And since my first program after the October 7th atrocities nearly three years ago, I've railed against the anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism and Islamist extremism that we've seen on our streets. From the grotesque celebrations of Sheikh Ibrahim Da Doon at Le Kemba on October 8th to the sickening and threatening chance at the Opera House the following night, and the countless anti-Semitic attacks and hateful anti-Israeli protests since. And I've also shown a light on how Jewish communities, congregations and schools

2:02have had to be shielded by heavy security and concrete barriers for protection. And all along, I've called out the media and political complicity in all of this. Too many have fueled resentment with biased coverage, or they've failed to report and confront the bile and extremism emerging all around us. Well, pleasingly, one of the most experienced and respected voices in national security matters has weighed in on this issue with some telling insights. Dennis Richardson, who headed AZO, defense and foreign affairs, and has served as ambassador to the US and conducted an early inquiry into intelligence before the Bondi massacre, well, he spoke at the Lowey Institute Media Awards last night, and Richardson dared to focus on holes in this country's media coverage. If people who are here who have never been to a Jewish school, you've got to go to a Jewish school.

3:04Because I'll tell you what, if you go to a Jewish school, you'll think you're in the middle of Beirut, or you'll think you're in a part of the world that you've never experienced before. Why weren't there journalists out there visiting Jewish schools and reporting on what was happening in our country? You don't address anything, and you don't deal with the issues by pretending they're not there, and by not reporting things because it may give rise to social tension. In his speech, Richardson addressed the failings that became evident right back at that ugly opera house protest. Much of the media focus on the nine October demonstration at the opera house was on the precise words used by the mob instead of on the appalling purpose and nature of the demonstration per se.

4:04The appalling purpose spot on what a breath of fresh air to hear someone with authority speaking the obvious truth. I tend to agree with those who argue that following seven October, we dropped the ball and failed to draw a line. Yeah, as I've been saying, and a range of experts and community leaders have been sharing on this program for years, too many in the media, and by the way too many politicians and law enforcement officials, failed to call out and challenge the emerging hatred that was right in front of our eyes and ears, and should have been impossible to ignore. I'm not implying a straight line connection to the Bondi terrorist attack, as the ingredients that gave rise to that terrible incident are more complex. I do believe, however, that a more forceful and consistent response to the blatant anti-Semitism we saw in the immediate aftermath of seventh of October,

5:11may well have set a different tone and drawn a clearer line between the acceptable and the unacceptable. I couldn't agree with Richardson Moore. He was speaking in general terms about the media and public debate. He didn't name anyone or any organisation and I won't verbal him. But I believe the greatest failures here have come from the ABC as our national broadcaster and Anthony Albanese as our national leader. The ABC even criticised me back in 2024 for talking too much about anti-Semitism. And the Prime Minister, well, he's never stood up strongly and he's only made things worse by rewarding the terrorists through his recognition of the non-existent state of Palestine. While they failed in their duty to serve the nation and protect our values, the hatred has been on the rise. At least in part because of their weakness.

6:12We simply have to confront this stuff. Islamist extremists exist in our country. They will harm us. They will kill us. Just like alleged jihadists killed 15 people when they allegedly targeted Jews at Bondi. Averting our eyes, pretending the threat is not there, well that won't make the Islamist extremists go away. The sources of anti-Semitism must be addressed in a sensible and mature way, including open discussion about extremists Islamists without Australian Muslims as a whole feeling targeted. Mainstream Muslim leaders should be at the centre of any such discussion. Pretending the issue is not there simply leads to conspiracy theories and plays into the hands of extremists at the other end of the spectrum.

7:19Well said Dennis Richardson, it should not need saying but in the current climate we certainly do need these basic facts made plain. Because our government and media seem to have learned nothing and the threat is as grave now as it was before Bondi. Let me give you an example of how some of this dynamic plays out. There was a disgusting verbal attack allegedly launched against a Muslim schoolgirl last week in Sydney. It was reported in the Sydney Morning Herald and they had no trouble mentioning that the girl was Muslim which is fair enough because it was highly relevant. It was important because when you see video of this exchange you can see how the schoolgirl's religion was targeted in this horrible abuse. What a vile disgrace. Thankfully this is a rare case and the man behind the scenes.

8:24The man who was killed by the police and the police was killed by the police. The police were killed by the police and the police were killed by the police. What a vile disgrace. Thankfully this is a rare case and the man behind it has been arrested and charged. The girl's Muslim headdress needed to be mentioned in the coverage because it seemed to draw the extra heat and hatred from this man in a way it never should have. And we'll leave it for the courts now to deal with it. The media has no trouble though mentioning Islamophobia or Muslims in that context. But on other issues they, along with our authorities, tend to get very shy about mentioning radical Islam or Islamist extremism. Have a listen to the Australian Federal Police Commissioner speaking about radicalisation yesterday.

9:25We've had young people as young as 12 under investigation for terrorism offences. Now that should be shocking to all Australians. And a lot of the time these are vulnerable young people who are either exploited or manipulated or radicalised online. We see how quickly that is happening a number of years ago to radicalise someone used to take months or potentially even years. We are now seeing it happen in a matter of days. What kind of radicalisation is she talking about? Catholic radicalisation? Presbyterian radicalisation? Perhaps it's vegan radicalisation. As Dennis Richardson intimated, we can't really combat Islamist extremism if we aren't even prepared to mention it. The Prime Minister avoids melting the words Islamist extremism or radical Islam. And as we saw, so does the AFP Commissioner.

10:26We cower in the face of Islamist extremism. And that's a deep, deep worry for our country. It's been revealed that Labour's planned reduction of our 20,000 refugee quota back to a more normal 13,750 refugees per year was overturned on a whim by the Prime Minister. With Labour under pressure for one nation and the coalition over runaway immigration during a housing and cost of living crisis, there were leaks last month that the government would cut the migrant intake and in particular reduce the refugee intake down from 20,000. When this sparked a revolt from Labour's socialist left MPs, Anthony Albanese, their socialist left leader quickly announced there would be no cut in the refugee intake. The problem is that the budget paper is already assumed it was coming down back to the 13,750 figure.

11:32So the coalition says this decision has cost taxpayers $7 billion. Did the Treasurer or Cabinet approve the $7 billion humanitarian intake increase? Does the Prime Minister rule out any cut to the humanitarian immigration intake? We're sure specifically to the last part of the question about ruling out a cut. This government who came to office made clear that we'd be boosting the humanitarian programme to 20,000 places. It remains at 20,000 places. That's a lot of refugees as the broader immigration intake is cut. It means 10% or more of all arrivals will be refugees. Labour had planned to announce its new immigration policy six weeks ago, but internal descent and confusion caused a delay. After canceling a national press club speech at short notice in early August, the Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke will reveal the policy tomorrow.

12:35Labour has been pushed kicking and screaming into a revised immigration policy. It has to cut immigration because the rate is far too high. We've added one and a half million people in four years. Even Canada's centre-left government cut immigration drastically and now housing prices have leveled off and rents have fallen. But Labour here has an ideological and political fixation with high immigration. We'll see tomorrow exactly what they promise. And then given their litany of broken promises and failed commitments, it'll be a matter of whether or not Labour's actions will ever match their words. We showed you the shame of Indigenous children suffering abuse and neglect in Port Headland in Western Australia's Pilbara last night. Currency of compelling reporting from the Australian. Here's a reminder.

13:38In this house behind me, we've discovered up to 15 children aged between five and sixteen who've been living here unsupervised for days at a time. Residents have complained to police and housing and the council, but so far nothing. The parents leave them alone and bugger off, get drunk and what else. And leave these kids, you know, it's like it's inhumane what they're doing. And I have to say it's inhumane from DCP and other government and institution not to look after that, to look away. On the back of that, Senator Jacinta Nampagympa, the price blamed woke policies for the lack of action to save these children. These bureaucracies, as well as those in leadership, like to prioritize a child's culture over their actual safety. And I've said it for years and the child protection system is utterly...

14:40It's morally bankrupt for starters and it's broken. Well, in the past 24 hours, there have been a couple of developments. Authorities have turned up at the homes in question and they've conducted a bit of a tidy up, removing rubbish and wrecked cars. And the West Australian Child Protection Minister made a flying visit yesterday morning. A public housing home in Frisbee Court, South Headland, squalid conditions for young Aboriginal children reportedly living there at times unsupervised. The appalling circumstances prompting the child protection minister to go and see for herself. I'm coming up here today to find our answers to talk to the department, to talk to our community partners and to talk to community. Back in Perth this afternoon, facing questions in Parliament. What confidence can the people of Western Australia have in your department, given they have ignored warning after warning after warning about the safety of these children?

15:42I do have confidence that this family is getting the supports that they need at this time. That minister, by the way, denies that up to 15 children are often left unsupervised. Still, local residents have contacted me to say this sort of chaos and neglect is more than norm than the exception in this particular neighbourhood. The WA Premier Roger Cook said child protection is one of his highest priorities. And there is no word yet on whether the federal minister for Indigenous Australians, Malandari McCarthy, is going to get involved. Let's go to the shadow minister for Indigenous Australians, Julian Lisa, joining us live from Canberra. Julian, is this an issue where the federal minister should get involved? We've put questions to her and got no response? Yes, Chris, I can't believe she hasn't responded to questions here. This issue is a national disgrace. There is no more important issue than child safety. There have been massive failures in the West Australian Department of Child Protection.

16:44Ross Thomas, the journalist from the Australian has done a terrific job highlighting these things. When these stories first broke a couple of weeks ago about the murder of the hawk children, I called for there to be a coronial inquest into them. I cannot believe there's been no inquestion. I call upon the WA government to do everything they can to have an inquest here, because an internal investigation into child protection in Western Australia just won't cut it. There's federal money going into these communities. We need to see what the federal money is doing, and we need to have the national minister for Indigenous Australians on the front foot here demanding answers from her Western Australian colleagues. Well, the inquest would be useful, because there's clearly claims of really strong warnings here being ignored before those children were killed. And now you've got Ross Thomas and the Australians reporting really issuing warnings about the future of other children. So it's time to act, isn't it, on those warnings, rather than try and play a political protection game? That's exactly right.

17:44There are clearly systemic failures in the Western Australian Department of Child Protection. And I hate the idea that the minister will have gone up there to have seen what amounts to a Potemkin village are cleaned up set of houses rather than seen the real situation there, which we've seen on the Australians footage there. The idea that Australian children are being left in these conditions should worry every Australian parent in this country. I won't stand for it, as the shadow minister for Indigenous Australians, it's why I've been so strong in calling for a coronal inquest, so we can get to the bottom of the systemic failures in the child protection department. I want to see the federal minister there confronting her state colleague and ensuring that if federal money is going into this community, that they're doing something about fixing the child protection system. Now we're going to see Labour's immigration policy tomorrow. Surely they need to drastically reduce our immigration intake. But the only thing we know for certain is that the planned reduction in the refugee intake from 20,000, a temporary lift to 20,000 down to the normal rate of 13,750, won't be happening.

18:49They're going to keep it at 20,000. Your response? Well, Chris, we know Labour can't manage immigration. We saw it when they were last in government. We've seen it again this time. They haven't met a target. They've set. They've always overshot them. They've lost control of our migration system altogether. And the problem is, as you pointed out, Labour is being left by its far left caucus. I mean, Tony Burke wanted to make announcements about immigration policy two weeks ago, but he was squished by his own caucus. And here they've squished them again in terms of cutting refugee intake back to the usual method. Now, I believe the bills are ringing and you need to head to the Chamber for a division. Sorry, I've just been told. I'll get you a thought. Sorry. Dennis Richardson, later, no doubt you'll agree with him. Thanks for joining us, Julian Leesor there. He's the shadow minister, federally, for Indigenous Australians. And when the bills ring in Parliament, you better turn up in your Chamber. You might be needed. Your number might be needed for the next vote. Let's go to Tom Switzer now.

19:49He's a columnist with the Australian newspaper on a stick to matters. Federal politics, Tom, because it's been revealed today in an extensive reporting that Chris Bowen and Anthony Albanese and their green left government who have set these targets for renewable energy and emissions reductions and despite all the billions wasted and all the chaos with our electricity grid, they're going to fall way short of their own targets. Well, we know that Chris Bowen reflects the thoughts and attitudes of the party faithful of not only the Labour Party, but the Green Party when he champions net zero policies. But this latest news just provides more evidence that to put it mildly in place, he has clearly underestimated the very real difficulty of decarbonising the Australian economy at a rapid rate. And we've talked about this before on this program, Chris, but Bowen, with whom I went to university in the early 1990s, he's a bit like the student ideologue in action.

20:50He's obsessive and pursuit of goals. He broke snow compromise. He's cavalier when it comes to costs. And he's clearly deaf to global trends. I mean, all around the world, nations are walking back their climate commitments, which is why you won't get a legally binding, verifiable and enforceable global deal to slash emissions. Well, it's going to be embarrassing for him. He's lobbied hard to get the joint COP presidencies. He's not hosting the meeting, but he's got this co-presidency gig. He's going to jump around the Pacific hosting meetings if anyone turns up. And yet he's going to have to level with everyone and say that the lofty goals he's set won't be met by Australia. But let's bring it back to the domestic and the amount of money he's wasting here. Listen to his latest scheme. This is portable solar power. Have a look. Hey, everyone. This is a quick message for renters and apartment dwellers. A lot of people have raised to me this hard for renters and apartment dwellers to get the benefits of solar and batteries. And that's true. So I'm really pleased to be able to tell you that yesterday the states and territories agreed to work with us

21:53to make plug-in solar legal in Australia. That's solar and batteries that renters will be able to move from house to house to apartment dwellers. There's a lot of work to do and to make sure that it's all safe from its standards. Tom, Tom, this is not serious. Is this April 4th day? You're going to rip the solar panels off your roof at a big battery, put them in the back of the unit and take them to the next flat. Well, it was so cheap. What does it require in ever growing taxpayer subsidy? When you say money, waste it, it's taxpayer's money. This home battery subsidy scheme is supporting units about twice the cost of what was originally conceived. And only three of the schemes, 136 approved manufacturers, are actually Australian. So bear that in mind. We're increasingly dependent on China for our trade. But we're also dependent on China for wind and solar panels. Yeah, it is just extraordinary. The reckoning is going to come, but it keeps being delayed and it's going to be horrible when it does come.

22:54I want to go to more on domestic politics now and one nation. As we know, the story of the year has been the dominance of one nation in political debate and in the polls. But it's been a pretty telling few days in which Pauline Hansen, very uncharacteristically, has stepped back and apologized. Here's a reminder. Of course I do. Of course I do. I don't think he is a traitor and I've never called him a traitor. I was referring to House Commission at that time. So if he's taking offence to it, well, I'm sorry for that. If other fend if people buy using that, yes, I will apologise for that. Apologies and backward steps from Pauline Hansen. Will that damage her brand? Well, our colleague Dennis Shanahan in the Australian has a piece today saying, you know, asking the question of whether this will be a test of her leadership, you know, whether she. Her supporters, the one nation supporters see her apology as a sign of strength or weakness. We are living in very volatile times, Chris. You may recall and we're catching up with the United States 10 years ago.

23:58You and I talked about 2015, 2016 when Donald Trump said many outrageous things on the campaign trail. And when he sees an observer of American politics thought this will destroy Donald Trump. But you resonated with a lot of people who feel they're the forgotten people, people who are losers of globalisation, they're losers of growing inequality. But he didn't back down. Trump never apologised. That's what I know. That's the point. You see, maybe she should have backed down. I don't know if it matters whether she backed down or not. I think that the widespread discontent and it's going to get worse in this country over the next few years because of Labor's mismanagement of the economy and declining productivity, I think she's going to resonate with those people regardless of these kinds of gaps. I think you're right to a large degree. There will be a lot to unfold, but a lot of people have made up their minds that the major parties have deserted them and she is their person thick or thin. But let me go to another example of where there are political firefights and distractions for one nation,

24:59this today from their New South Wales leader. I poorly worded that. One nation policy is pretty simple. We're against sex-selective abortion and late term abortion. That's it. It's not about a blanket ban. You call it a foot in a mouth moment. It seems to be the going term. How prevalent do you think sex-selective abortion is in New South Wales? Well, higher than you would imagine, up to potentially 40%. You have a ballpark idea of how many of these six selective abortions do you think happen in New South Wales? I'll come back to you with the exact number on. Well, Tom, apart from the point of having to correct himself and not knowing exactly what the policy is there, the issue here is an abortion debate. Is that really what one nation wants if they're going to be looking to take seats around the state? Chris, you and I have talked about this before on the news 24 documentary, The Five For The Right. One of the weaknesses for Pauline Hanson and indeed many of her candidates is that they're incapable of understatement and they make kind of statements and policy announcements.

26:01They're a distraction from what should be the main game, cost of living pressures. And you would think that if this continues where you have politicians like these one-nation types making these kind of mistakes and changing their tone of the debate, that would hurt them. But again, I'll go back to the central point. There is widespread dissatisfaction with both Labor and the Coalition and one nation still stands to be the beneficiary of that discontent. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. And there's no doubt also that their prime asset is Pauline Hanson. And while she's front and center, the surge continues, but as she gets more MPs and candidates around the country, we get more people under the banner of one nation creating these distractions. Exactly. Absolutely. And that's going to be a real problem for her. But again, the counter-argument is that she's a beneficiary of the widespread discontent. I want to underestimate this because it's the same thing that's happening in Britain with nodule forage as a reform party, something with Marine Le Pen in France, and indeed Germany's AFD tapping into those widespread anxieties, particularly among a lot of working class voters.

27:06Spot on Tom. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate it, Tom. So there you can read his stuff in the Australian newspaper. We'll take a break on the other side of that. I want to check in on Iran and find out what's happening there as the war continues. And there's a lot of talk about social unrest within the Islamic Republic of Iran. Hi, this is Dave Roberts. Heading into summer without a medical emergency kit, that's a risk. Summer colds can linger and getting sick on vacation can derail everything. That's why everyone needs a medical emergency kit. It includes doctor prescribed medications to treat common and serious illnesses. So if you wake up sick at home or on the road, you already have what you need. It's like having an urgent care and pharmacy at home. Say $45 with code blue at urgentcare kit.com slash blue urgent care kit.com slash blue. Imagine your friend tells you she's taking an innocent family trip to Greenville, South Carolina. We'll call her Emma.

28:06The trip sounds great to you. Hiking at John's Gap, dinner at top soil, a room at the best hotel in town. Harmless, right? Here's the thing. Emma and her family never returned from Greenville. They disappear. You search for answers, but nothing adds up. Emma had a great life back home. You guys were best friends. What happened? Well, the truth is once Emma realized she could have access to Michelin recognized restaurants, nature, local shops, and performing arts all in one place, everywhere else started to seem a little. Emma's vacation is a cautionary tale. If you're coming this way, don't forget to tell your friends and neighbors goodbye. Visit Greenville, South Carolina, but you may never want to leave. Learn more at visit GreenvilleSC.com. OK, let's update the situation in Iran. As it happens today marks four years, since the death in custody, recall of Marse� Amini, who was arrested by Iran's morality police, apparently for not wearing her hijab correctly.

29:1322-year-olds deaths sparked the woman life freedom protest movement and provoked worldwide outrage, of course. Here's a reminder thanks to CNN. The final resting place of Massa Gina Amini, a place of mourning and now of protest. Amini's name has become synonymous with a movement that is posing the biggest threat to the Iranian regime in years. Sparks in the wake of the 22-year-olds death while in the custody of Iran's notorious morality police, detained for allegedly contravening the country's strict dress code. But now, as the Iranian people commemorate 40 days since Amini's death, a significant mark of birth mourning and remembrance, the movement has grown to become something far more wide reaching than its initial call for women's rights. Joining me now is Iranian Human Rights Advocate Tina Kutastrami. Good to see you again, Tina.

30:15It's a shocking anniversary. Do you expect there will be events that market and protests in Iran over this anniversary? I think so. We're going to have a lot of events within the diaspora. We have one this weekend as well in our Sydney Martin place. As we just saw on the CNN report, this wasn't only about women's rights. It was a horrible loss of Gina, a Kurdish Iranian woman, but this is what we see every day in Iran. We see so many of these murders taking place on fair prosecutions taking place. And today, four years on from what happened, we're seeing a Iran where women walk the streets with, you know, not wearing a hijab, some are still wearing a hijab. But we are seeing a lot more freedom within the streets. And that is not because of the regime, it's because of the people getting up and saying we're sick of you suppressing us. Well, this is what that report didn't go to, but of course, after the death and the protests came the brutal crackdown.

31:21And the question today is what's happening with those issues in Iran, especially while the blockade goes on and the war is at a stalemate, but the economic blockade is going on. Is there much intel out of Iran about what the social situations like and about the economic hardship because of the blockade? Nothing has improved. It's gotten worsened. The bureaucracy hasn't changed at all. The bureaucracy doesn't get impacted by the war. We have had thousands, if not hundreds of people executed this year. We are seeing more and more of our political prisoners being sent down to the execution line. We are seeing a lot of people contacting us from inside the country pleading us to help them out and, you know, try to get them out of the country by any means. But it's just not possible, especially right now with Australia and how strict it's become with migrants, especially from Iran. See, this is, gets to the heart of whether the war is achieving any of its aims, right? Because if the regime is just as strong as it ever was in Iran, then some of the key aims, of course, are not being achieved.

32:28It's never been about the people, and that's become very clear to us. We Iranians have never felt more alone than now. We have so many political leaders across the globe talking about Iran using it as a discussion point to push their own agendas forward. Whether there's an election coming up or whatnot. What's being missed is the civilians. It's what's happening within the country. And now within the diaspora, we are only leaning on one another. In Australia, for example, why do we still have the embassy open? We have proved time and time again. We had an inquiry at the beginning of this year, where community leaders, professionals told the government directly, we do not want this embassy open. So this is the point that they've expelled the ambassador. The Australian government has expelled the ambassador because Iran has been leaked to terror attacks in Australia, including that fire bombing of the Adest synagogue in Melbourne. Yet the embassy is still open, with people running it who obviously who support the Iranian regime, and the concern would be, wouldn't it, that those people running the embassy in Australia are helping to keep an eye on Iranians in Australia or intimidate them?

33:39Definitely. Those of us who are well-known activists, we are constantly worried about our safety. We are talking with one another, because again, we don't have anyone to go to for our safety. But even when we saw what happened earlier this year with the football players, their location wouldn't have become exposed if it wasn't for the embassy. If the embassy wasn't open, there would be no report made to them regarding the girls' location. What does the Australian government give you as the reason for allowing the Iranian embassy to remain open? We never get a proper response, but we hear from word of mouth here and there that potentially one reason is because of America wanting to conduct its work for the embassy. But again, that's not a proper official response that we have received. Thanks for joining us, Teneer. I appreciate it. That update, Teneer Cordress, from me there. We're going to take a break. I'm going to get my equipment sorted out here. But after the break, we're going to check in on migration chaos in the UK again with France helping out apparently. That's the cracker.

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36:49We'll go to West of Cracu in the UK in just a moment. But before we do, have a look at this from the Australian newspaper detailing how French authorities are actually helping illegal immigrants make the crossing to the UK. The French authorities not only watched what was going on, fearing that if they intervened, the migrants might drown. But they also actively assisted in pointing out the best areas for the dinghy to come in closer to shore, where it's more shallow, and that the migrants might find it easier to get on board. I'm here on this beach in just north of Calais to wait for the latest migrant launch. We've seen one yesterday where more than a hundred migrants clambered on board in what was quite a chaotic and frenetic scene. What happens is that a big mega dinghy, which can carry nearly 200 migrants, will come down the coast and do several pickups on the way. It's a very organised operation.

37:54Incredible stuff. Let's go to the UK now and catch up with the writer and broadcaster Esther Cracu. Esther, thanks for joining us. There's been a lot of reporting, understandably, about this in the UK. What's been occurring between the British government and the French government about these claims? Clearly, this is not going on and that the anti-Burnum government still insists that the one in one out deal has been effective and that numbers are coming down. There's nothing to see here for nothing to worry about. But clearly, that's not the case. We've been seeing reports, news reports from France, that are showing that a lot of local residents are happy that the police are collaborating to get these people out. If these people do not cross the channel, they are stuck in France. The French have to deal with them. The French don't want to deal with them. It's their own electoral headache. You have mothers saying that they're getting their children to personal protection training, so to speak. Some physical combat training to try and assuage their fears that they come into contact with these migrants.

38:59But across parts of Northern France, it just looks terrible. They're loads of these camps that are preparing to come from the shows of Vicale across the English Channel into Britain. They're basically camps out there and there are an eye-saw, a lot of local residents feel unsafe. The idea that it was just going to be down to paying the French a few hundred million pounds for them to tackle this is for the birds. Everyone knew that this one in one out deal, this five hundred million pounds we apparently have to keep renewing to send to the French was never going to amount to anything. But then now we have this bombshell news from the Home Secretary's Shabbana Moude that to send back 1400 migrants from France, it's cost the taxpayer 78 million pounds, about 56,000 pounds per head. Which is absolutely ludicrous. It should not cost a single penny other than the fact that once they come onto the show they are immediately sent back on the same day and there's no questions about it. But this government is treating this issue like a paper exercise and so I love to be a fly on the wall to hear the kinds of meetings they have about how they're going to pretend to the British public like they're taking this seriously.

40:08Such a mess you've got to be strong and if you're not strong, people see that weakness and they exploit it. It's just so obvious. Meanwhile, with Keir Starmer leaving parliament, the Greens leader is going to run for his seat. Let's have a listen to Polanski. Miranam Zag Polanski, Ome, Holbenen St. Pancras, Kiseik Kylia, Karah, who Greens, K-Preshers, say Labour, Nay. So where is this Greens party leader now? Is there and does he have a chance of taking a seat off Labour? Well, that what you just saw there was an advert in Urdu. Now you and I may have an impression that in England they speak English. But not according to Green Leader Zag Polanski. He is now campaigning in a foreign language, which is a Sunday pulled back in the February by election that we saw they were putting our flyers in Urdu. And apparently this is diversity being our strength. Now the whole thing has been a complete clansher from the Labour candidate, the Labour party put up to Zag Polanski now advertising in Urdu.

41:17But this is the rise of sectarianism that we're seeing in British politics. And we have national political parties that are treating this country like a dull to be foretowered. And these are the kinds of tactics that they're happy to use. Regardless of whether it's tearing the country apart or regardless of whether it's actually a good thing for the country's future to have politicians campaigning in a different language. Now I can assure you that this wouldn't be the case in the country that actually speaks Urdu. They definitely wouldn't be campaigning. We can't really target white men from South Shields. But it's only in England where our politicians think that this is a good thing. And we laugh about it, but it's actually quite sad. It's a worry. It's a deep worry. Are there enough Urdu speakers in that electorate that might make a difference as well? Well, this is the claim. This is the assumption. But again, you have to think if you have to advertise to all the speakers in Urdu to get them to vote for you, then really... If something's going wrong. Should they be voting in the first place?

42:18Yeah, it's such a worry. Don't worry. Britain has all the warnings. Up in lights for us, but Australia still goes down the same path. We should be putting the brakes on urgently. Let me go to a television ad that I've played a couple of times now. It's my favourite ad on television, wherever we run it. But I still don't know what it's for. Have a look. Thank you, no sports. Prove it. No big A's. Just sports. So they wanted a show. Just sports. You can trade this sport. And this sport. How about this? This sport, Tim. So as it is in Australia and America, Esther Van Edds, creating a lot of controversy in the UK. Why? I have no idea. But I am the president of the Sydney Swini is so hot, fine club. And you'll never hear a negative word out of me. Clearly the people that think this is in a front to women in sports have nothing to say about.

43:26That's your men in women sports. So I'm choosing not to take them seriously. And I'm going to enjoy that for what it is for as long as Sydney Swini is going to continue to grace our screens with such soft core porn. Basically. It is soft core porn. And this is the killer point you make. There's so many on the left are happy for men to pretend to be women and competing women sport. Now they're outraged. Someone who is obviously a woman should appear like this. Let's listen to a British sprinter, Amy Hunt. You really want to show that it's about what your body can do. Not so much what it looks like. I think when we see the stats of 64% of young girls drop out of exercise and sport before they reach the age of 16. We don't need to place any kind of barrier whatsoever in their way in terms of providing the opportunity and the empowerment for them to still exercise. Yeah, I don't know. It's a fraught discussion. I feel for female athletes, but you can actually look good and be a great athlete too. My favorite team in the Olympics is the Jamaican women sprint team.

44:28Exactly. And I these are the same people I have to point out that we're cheering and shouting like banshee's when Caitlin Jenner appeared on the cover of a magazine in the boostier. So I don't want to hear anything about what your body can do. Sydney's body can clearly do quite a lot and we are all enjoying it. I'm not having any of it. It's the crack who she's even more of a Sydney Swini fan than I am. Thanks for joining us. We'll cut to next week. We're going to take a break on the other side. All the opening acts for Ed Sheeran's US tour have quit over this pro-Palestinian Malaki. The Wednesday Rangle up next. Hi, this is Dave Roberts heading into summer without a medical emergency kit. That's a risk. Summer colds can linger and getting sick on vacation can derail everything. That's why everyone needs a medical emergency kit. It includes doctor prescribed medications to treat common and serious illnesses. So if you wake up sick at home or on the road, you already have what you need.

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46:31Visit Greenville, South Carolina, but you may never want to leave. Learn more at visit Greenville SC dot com. Let's get into the Wednesday rangle now with Jamie Johnson, host of the just Jamie podcast and Justin Smith, of course, broadcast author and commentator joining us from Melbourne. Let's start with just for something different. Pauline Hanson and of course one of the big controversies this week. Jamie is a is from a podcast you recorded with Pauline. I was wondering if you were going to mention that. It was me. It was you. And this is when we'll let's show it again. This is when Pauline mentioned the P word. That was most primitive race on earth. And we're supposed to be holding up and saying what they've achieved. They've achieved nothing. Now you must have thought that was pretty controversial at the time. We were surprised it didn't create much of a storm then, but yet a year later it does. Yeah, I have to admit this was part of a much bigger conversation. I actually listened to the podcast again driving in here tonight. And that's part of a seven minute conversation about the school curriculum. That's how we get into that.

47:42I don't know. She often says things that you go when she says it. And that was part of her apology this week, right? Where she's like, I don't mean to offend people. I sometimes put my foot in it. Justin, you think every single thing she says is crap. It's how you started the segment last week. It's a pretty horrible thing to say a primitive race. Look, the word primitive. You know, I recheck the dictionary. It's fine to use that. Yeah, if you could talk about a primitive lifestyle that was being led by indigenous people, that's fine because you could say the same about a lot of people around the world, but to say that that were primitive race. It's incredibly demeaning, Justin. And we don't want to re-proscute all this because we've talked about it for days, but we should. No, there's no point. Justin will talk about it. We have a problem. We have a problem. What I want to hear from you, Justin, is whether you think her apology for this will be a setback for her. No, look, look, I think it probably, you know, for some of the people that she's trying to target, it probably is a setback. I don't even know why she apologized.

48:43There's a pretty weak apology, but it's the same kind of crap that she has been talking for years and the same type of appalling garbage that she has been pointing towards the indigenous people. For her to say, what have they done? Well, we could throw that question back at Pauline Hansen. What the hell is Pauline Hansen ever invented or ever built in her life? She seems to have spent her time tearing things down. Jamie, I've got to say this. I don't want you to take this too personally because I'm sure you're deep down you're an ice person and I like it. But watching you not along with Pauline there, like some kind of dash ornament, made me feel sick in the stomach. You should be ashamed of yourself, and I think you should be the next apology. And I watched the whole thing too, by the way. I think you didn't see that we were talking about a much bigger part of an overcrowded curriculum. The whole thing we were talking about was not about like, dishing out dirt on indigenous people. It was actually about virtue signaling in camera.

49:48And the fact that our curriculum is so over convoluted with all of this stuff that our standards are going backwards. We've got seven-year-old kids coming home that are telling us all about why they're sorry for every... Thanks for the lecture. I did a lot of work. I'm going to try to put it here. Hang on a second. Hang on a second, Justin. You're the one who's gone with the personal attack here on Jamie. Now, I haven't seen that whole podcast, but I've seen that segment. And the framing was definitely about the importing of so much indigenous culture into the education curriculum. I think it's a very valid discussion. And I think the only criticism you could make Pauline Hansen there is, as I said, that phrase of primitive race. It's really a derogatory turn. It's saying they had done nothing in Jamie nodding along as it was there. Well, this is not a personal attack. She put it out there. This is not a personal attack. You literally just told me I...

50:49You literally just told me I should be ashamed of myself. You sure? You made me feel sick. You should have called a giant. But now you're saying it's not a personal attack. At least own up to it. You want to personally attack me, at least own it. I'm attacking you for what was on that podcast. Your reaction to that podcast, the fact that that podcast was put out. It's not a personal attack on you. It made me feel sick. And I think you should have apologized. I feel sick and apologise. But this is the point you can't have a sensible discussion on these things. So hang on, I'm being personal. So I'm being personal. But when Pauline Hansen says the things that she said and that the Aboriginal people and indigenous people had never achieved anything, is that something to not long to? However, when I say something towards you, it's personal. Come on, let's just... Pauline, how did you talk about this? She was talking about cultures and civilisation and indigenous... And this is for curriculum. And how and how social should we get it done? If you can't apologize, you'll think it. We all know she used a phrase that was such as horrible.

51:51I'm not saying this can't be disgusting. And don't try to back me into it. So if you just didn't want to try and argue that indigenous cultures circa 1770 had achieved as much in science and technology as a British civilisation, well then I'll let you run that argument. What are you? What do... That's what you were talking about. Is that the worth of a per...a per...a people? There's not nothing to do with the word of them. If it's to do with the social curriculum. I'm trying to understand. It's stoned into rough me. I was asked the question. I'm trying to answer it. Is that the way we judge a people now, whether they come up to Pauline Hansen standards about how much they had achieved? This is what people have given a great deal to the world in the way they've told us. This is where this debate is so pathetic. This is where the debate is so pathetic. You get an ugly overreach from Pauline Hansen. And so the lefty virtue signal is completely verbal what she's saying.

52:52And now it's turned into attack on every Indigenous people and saying that Indigenous people in the contemporary age of contributed nothing. That's just simply not what she said. And I'm critical of what she said. But you can't overegate into some attack on contemporary Indigenous people not achieving. That's not what she was saying. Justin. I disagree. It was a person... It disagreed. It was a person. Very much... He just chooses to make up what she said. He just... Anyway, I think you've had a good guy, Justin. We had so many other things we want to talk about. Oh, sorry. We've got to talk to Pauline. Justin Smith and Jamie Johnson. Thanks for joining us.