The Glenn Beck Program | Hour 3 | 9/4/26

0:00'd oman I don't care who you are in America, most people. I think this is actually true across the Western world. There's a ton of anxiety.

1:01You're seeing everything that is going on in the world. It's all crazy. It doesn't make sense. You're exhausted. So, how do you go on? Where do you get the courage to go on? I have one of my favorite authors, one of my favorite friends, Max Lucato. He has been dubbed America's pastor by Christianity today. The best preacher in America readers digest and the Ted Lasso of pastors by the Dallas boarding news. I love this. He is a new book out and it is called Unbreakable Courage. Max Lucato joins me in 60 seconds. First, Patriot Mobile. Imagine for a minute you're sitting there in a ball game. There's a break in both of you. The guy sitting next to you, he starts to make a phone call. You make a phone call. He's not getting service. Of course he's not. It's a ball game. But you are. You know why? Because you have Patriot Mobile. This is America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. And doing business with them, you're already participating in the parallel economy that we've been building all of these years.

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3:05No, I'm sorry. Yeah, I've had a great summer. I've had a great summer. So good to see you. Good to see you. Good to see you. So unbreakable courage. This is about Elijah. But for people who don't know who Elijah is, they have no Bible literacy. And most people don't know who was Elijah. Nine centuries before Christ, the people of Israel, Abraham's descendants had gone off the train track of morality and spirituality. And they had sold out to worship two false gods, one by the name of Bale and the other by the name of Ashirah in the throne room at that time, comprised of Ahab and Jezebel. We never name our kids Ahab and Jezebel for a reason. They were supporting 850 false prophets and these false prophets promoted a worship of these two false gods. Again, these are the children of Israel. These are the descendants of Abraham.

4:05And they promoted a worship that included child sacrifice tragically in temple prostitution. So it's the story of a society off the guardrails or through the guardrails and they've gone over the edge and enter Elijah, this wild and woolly, sin-e-muscular prophet out of nowhere who enters the throne room and declares the Lord God of Israel lives before whom I serve. And so that's the story of Elijah. It's not hard to connect the dots and see that the depravity of his day is mirroring the depravity of ours. And how was he able to have faith? How was he able to endure a time of depression? How was he able to stand strong? I think that's the questions that Elijah's story allows us to explore. I don't want to get into this. We'll waste all of our time on this, but I have to tell you someday I'd love to have you back, Max, because I think we are we are we are worshipping those ancient gods. We're doing the same practices.

5:07We just don't know it. We just don't know it, but it's happening. There's no doubt. So what does courage today actually look like? Courage is not a glen in my opinion. It's not the absence of fear. We all have fear. We all battle anxiety. So don't beat yourself up for those surges of fear and anxiety. But courage is the choice to face your fears with faith to acknowledge that this is a wild and crazy world in which we live. But I'm going to hold on. I'm going to be like Elijah and declare even in the midst of this crazy world that the Lord God of Israel lives before whom I serve. And I'm going to make him my go to and turn to him with my fears. I think that's a good definition of courage. So I know so many people who are they're just exhausted. They're just exhausted and they think it doesn't matter.

6:07I mean, look at this next election. I don't want to make this about politics, but look at the next election. Just people are saying, you know what? It's never going to change. I don't, I'm just not going to vote. And people are surrendering to it because they're tired and they don't think that they can make a difference. Synicism is our next door neighbor, right? I mean, people are so frustrated with the direction of the country and the lack of solutions. So I do think Elijah enters our lives and bringing us a testimony of somebody who entered a society that was even far more depraved than ours. And yet was used by God to bring the nation back. There is the high point in the story of Elijah went on Mount Carmel. He took on those 850 false prophets and Firefell from heaven and consumed the altar as a result of his answer of his offered prayer. In the children of Israel, there are probably a million there that day on Mount Carmel.

7:11The children of Israel declared for the first time in generations the Lord he is God, the Lord he is God. So the story and other stories, but especially the story of Elijah, reminds us that God always has his prophets. He always has his people. And just when we think things could not get worse, he sends a messenger into our world. And he hears the prayers of his people. And so I think it's a good antidote for the cynicism that we have to read the stories of people, especially like Elijah. So Max, I have never lived at a time where, when you say he sent a messenger, I'm hearing all kinds of messengers and I'm hearing all kinds of messengers that are, they're claiming the name of God and they are. In my opinion, they are 180 degrees out of line with God. How do you know? How do you know who the messenger is? How do you know? I know. I know. I hear you, Glenn. Jesus said it's about the fruit.

8:13You shall know these people. So we can examine the fruit of these people. Some of them are building a following for themselves. And you can see the fruit. It takes some time, sometime because some of these folks are so charismatic, but it'll, it'll eventually show that the people who are following them will themselves become power hungry or themselves become imbitered and leave. But those leaders who are truly seeking God and following God, they will leave behind in their wake a healthy batch of fruit. Good people. Honest people. We're hearing people again, it may take a while for us to see the fruit, but God will make it clear who is with him and who isn't. And I think what I'm sorry. No, go ahead. Finish. Well, it just falls to us to do our very best to be faithful in our own lives, to have faith, to have joy. A little optimism is a good thing, you know, and it seems to be in short supply.

9:15How do you, I mean, because God seems to always use really flawed people. And so you're like, because I've heard people say, oh, you know, Donald Trump is, you know, not a savior with the capitalist, but a savior of our country, blah, blah, blah. God is using him. And other people will look at that and go, are you kidding me? Look how flawed this guy is. And you're like, well, okay, so the fruit, you know, you say the fruit isn't always, you know, they're right off the bat. And you can't necessarily always see it. Yeah. Can you, can you go into that at all to help people? I can. Yeah. I think a key teaching in Bible, in the Bible about scripture is that if anyone is in a position of authority, they are there because God placed them. Now, I find that very difficult to swallow sometimes. But the alternative is to say, well, there are times in which God is not sovereign.

10:16And so he might have dosed off the day that person was chosen or elected. So we, we have to kneel before that truth. And that is that God is still sovereign. And he can use anyone, he can use godly leaders like he used Josiah in the Old Testament, Moses in the Old Testament, Peter and Paul in the New Testament, or he can use hardhearted leaders like Pharaoh in the days of Moses or even Pilate in the days of, days of Christ. He can use them to accomplish his will. Of course, it would be his will for every leader to seek him, to follow him, to kneel before him. That's not going to be the case. I mean, it's a fallen world. And so we can take confidence in the fact that God can redirect the actions of a ruler to do his will. And he has done so to history. I'm confident he'll do so in our day. In the book you talk about divine disruption, what does that mean? These moments in the life of Elijah in which he witnessed and displayed the power of God

11:20were all divine interruptions and disruptions, the time in which he entered the throne room of Ahab and, and, and Jezebel and declared the presence of God in which he declared there would be a drought for seven years. And there was, in which the time that he was sent to be cared for by a widow only to have her son die while he was there. And he prayed for the son and the son came to life. The story of Elijah is just marked by these divine disruptions or interruptions, long periods of seemingly nothing and then bam, fire falls from heaven. Or bam, God speaks to Elijah through a still small voice. Or bam, Elijah himself is taken into heaven in a, in a, in a fiery chariot. So his life was just marked by these moments. Again, I find encouragement in that, Glenn, that just when I think our world is dark and shady and gray, our, our Lord God is a good God. And he can speak into existence, a miracle that can, that can literally reroute history.

12:21And we need to keep praying and believing that that's going to happen. It was me in prayer. You say, you called in the book Elijah level prayer. Mm-hmm. What is Elijah level prayer? Well, Elijah is remembered in the New Testament as the one who prayed. He's an example used by James in the epistle of James as a, as proof that the prayers of a faithful person avail much. And then James says, he was normal just like we are because I would imagine that the readers would say, yeah, but that was Elijah. Because when Elijah prayed for the rain to stop, it stopped. When he prayed for the rain to return, it returned. When he prayed for the three day did, I'm sorry for the boy who had been dead. When he prayed three times for that boy to come back to life, he came back to life. So he had this robust, exciting, powerful prayer life in which he truly felt like God would hear his voice.

13:23And I think one reason we get discouraged and weary today is we think nobody will hear our voice. And the story of Elijah reminds us that God hears the prayers of his people. He's normal just like we are. Elijah was. And God hears the prayers of normal people, sinful people, discouraged people. And so anybody who's listening today, who's thinking there is no hope to you, I would say, yes, there is hope because there is prayer. I just want to give, I just looking this up in the book because I read this. It's right towards the top and it goes right to it. And I think this how so many people feel. It's chapter one outnumbered. And one side is you, just you, all by your loansome, not you plus your allies, not you plus your platoon, not you plus your friends. You look around for help. No one, it's just you one single solitary version of you. The other side is them. More of them than you can count. More enemies and you can number problems and you can solve changes that you can tolerate.

14:24Offenses that you can forgive fears that you can face. Questions that you can answer. Health issues that you can treat. Fills that you can pay deadlines that you can meet. More and more of them. You versus them. You're outnumbered. You're outpaced, outdone, outgun, outmaneuvered. And then there is the tempest all alone. The odds against you, 850 to one. It's pretty powerful because I think that's the way people feel. I agree. I think we feel outnumbered. And the consequence is one out of three people in the United States battle to one degree or another depression. Four out of ten admit that anxiety is a part of their day-to-day lives. And the most tragic, statistical of all is that suicide is at its highest rate since World War II. And so learning to be strong in the midst of these chaotic times is more than just a good idea. It's absolutely essential for our families' health, for our mental health, and for the

15:29health of our society. I just saw a study, I can't remember exactly, but it was talking about tradition and how traditions are starting to come back into style and how important they are. We've lost everything, everything. How important are traditions in your view? And what are traditions we should start? Yeah, extremely important. I have some good friends who attended the church where I've passed church all these years. And we are a non-denominational Christian church and evangelical. And there is a wonderful branch of the Christian faith that we often refer to as Thai church. And that is more formal. There are liturgy and robes, more of a cathedral. That's a beautiful expression of faith. In some of my good friends left the church where I've fastered and began attending a high church.

16:29And I asked them why. I said, did I make you mad? And they said, no, no, no. But we love the structure. We love the tradition. We love walking in and seeing these practices that have been around for centuries. It gives us a sense of belonging. And I can relate to that. I understand that. I do think in a time in which so much is changing, so fast. I mean, I barely learned how to work the internet, much less AI. So it's good to have these moorings, these anchor points we can turn to. And for many people, it is a more traditional faith. And God bless them. Because God can use all of these different expressions of worship to keep us steady and on our feet. Yeah, I think it really is that everything feels liquid. Nothing is solid anymore. And I hear you.

17:29And to feel like, well, there's something that's been there for thousands of years or thousand years itself, whatever it is. And it's withstood all of the troubles. It feels like you have a place to stand. Max, it is always good to talk to you. I just love you so much. And I thank you so much for everything that you've done. All of your books, all of your teachings and everything. The name of the book that he has just released is Unbreakable Courage. As always, he has his finger on the pulse of where people are right now. Unbreakable Courage is the name of the book. And it's available everywhere. Max, Lucato, God bless you, sir. I'll talk again. Thank you so much, man. All the very best. I love you. Bye-bye. Love you, too. Let me tell you about good ranchers. You know, you shouldn't need to be a detective to figure out where your dinner came from. You know, if you want to buy American beef and support American ranchers, there's a simple decision. But with beef sold in this country now, the origin isn't always as obvious of what you would expect. And that's really important. You know, the 300 metric tongues of foreign beef that's being loud into the United States

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23:42Of course they don't know because everybody's still on vacation. Oh my gosh. I cannot take it. I got to tell you these Republicans do everything they can to not get reelected. Everything they can to not get reelected. I mean is there anything except I don't know setting you or your dog on fire that they haven't done to says, you know, hey, by the way, don't go out. Don't go out and vote for me. Don't. But you got to blow past all of that. By the way, job numbers just announced all estimates have been broken double and triple digits. The employers have added 162,000 jobs in August. Now the president said lower the interest rates because the USA is much stronger credit than it was a short time ago. A strong country means lower interest rate credit. Very simple. We should have the lowest rate of any country in the world like the old days without the United States agreeing to allow them their big surpluses. We could stop immediately.

24:43They would no longer be considered financially elite. Before the rate or all stop trading with countries that which we have a deficit, which the US Supreme Court and its ridiculous, very costly tariff decision strongly acknowledged. The president has an absolute right to do. It's better than tariffs. The Fed board with its great new leader must do smart, must be smart. Get be patriots for a change. High interest rates put the USA at a very unfair disadvantage. And I won't allow this to happen. President Donald J. Trump. That's not necessarily a good fight to have. We need lower interest rates. But because we are spending out, just completely out of control, people are dropping our bonds, which means we have to have higher interest rates. If we lower the interest rates, it'll be more cheap money. And that will most likely, it will help the average person be able to buy a home, etc., etc. And it also could really dramatically affect inflation as well.

25:47And I don't think I agree with the president on this one, but he has proven me wrong so many times before. We'll see. But that does not sound like a good idea. But I think he's pushing that right now because of the election. And he has been pushing it for a long time. And a lot of people are expecting interest rates may go up next month. Again, because of our crazy, crazy debt. There's also a couple of other things. Give me the story of Marie Bartoromo here, the backstory, Ricky. She's just been let go by Fox, which is a bad, bad move on their part. I mean, she was really one of the only reasons why you would watch Fox Business. She is so good at what she does. But hopefully she'll end up at the White House. But explain what happened. Yeah, this comes from Puck News.

26:49They say that per multiple sources familiar. She wanted to pursue a story related to China and 2020 election voting conspiracies. A major sensitivity for the network, given its dominion and smartmatic lawsuits. Alleged. Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. OK, allegedly a Fox Business executive sent a text to Fox Business producers informing them that the story could not go to air. And allegedly, Bartoromo sent a screenshot of the guidance and sent it to White House officials. Fox News leadership learned about that after receiving a call from the White House, which they viewed as a fireable offense. So she is not technically fired according to John Solomon. She's just no longer on air. And she has a contract that's good for a few more years and is perhaps going to be paid out. I will tell you this. You know, when Roger Eels was there, you know, it was much more Republican. But I will tell you that I know for a fact that the heat that he got from the Republican

27:51party to fire me because they hated the Tea Party and somehow or another. I was credited at the time. I'm not. Thank God. But I just want the truth to stand. It was not me that started the Tea Party by any stretch of the imagination, but I was involved in it. And they hated that. And I know because he would tell me all of the heat he was getting from Washington, fire him, fire him, fire him. And he didn't. I don't like it when somebody will cave because I think it is Fox's right to be. Make that decision. It is also the right because every single president, White House and party has pressured their people, you know, when they call the people up in, you know, Fox or CNN, they've all pressured them. It is the right and the duty of that to say, you know what, it's not good for us. I'm sorry.

28:52We're not going to be. We're not going to fall under under your pressure, which Roger did for a long time. And I'm not saying that they pressured. They just probably just said, hey, what's the deal on this? This is a really deal. And if they did pressure, it's, you know, Murdoch's right to not fall or Murdoch's kids right to not fall underneath that pressure. But I think it was understandable because there are sensitivities of the last lawsuit, but it was a mistake. I think it's a real mistake to let her go or to fire her. And I hope that she becomes the next press secretary. I mean, I think she would be doing. I think she would be great as a press secretary. Oh, she killed it. She is, she is tough. She's smart. She follows the facts. She has an editorial point of view, of course. But she's got real presence too. And I just don't think she can be bullied around in that room. No, I know what he's going to mess with her. She is, she's fabulous. Let's go to Spain.

29:53Jason, you just get, oh, no, no, before we go to Spain, be ready for this. Jason, but before we do that, I think the big news is they just declared a mistrile in the Clancy trial, mistrile. And in, you know, what happened was today, we find out, I think late last night, early this morning, we found out that it was one juror. And I said on the air, and he's holding out without any knowledge of who it was just assuming it was a guy. But then the, the defense attorney came out and said, you know, he's one guy who is just so, they're only three guys. So now the, the defense attorney targeted the three guys by saying it's one guy, I can guarantee you that this is going to now, the news is going to track down that one guy and he's going to have a massive target on his back. And what did the defense attorney do by revealing that it was a male when there's so few

30:56of them, six, six, okay, but it's not that way. It's, it's nine, three. There's only three guys there for them to give anything other than this juror. I think this guy knew exactly what he was doing and he was sending a message. And I'm telling you, he should be disbarred, but anybody who goes after this guy in the media unless he approaches the media and wants to be known, anybody who outs this guy shame on you. Absolutely. The blood of that guy will be on your hands. We are living in a really dangerous time. And if they out this guy, God only knows, and they're going to do it because they want to send a message to all future jurors. Don't screw with us. Don't stand against us. This is really dangerous. God pray that this guy that he is safe and nothing happens to him. But I think it was done intentionally.

31:56Opinions guys? Yeah, I agree because this is personally, personally, I believe that this lawyer, this defense lawyer knew that this was going to a mistrial. They knew after multiple different failures to come to a consensus that where this was going. And if you do know that and you know that they're going to have to start all over again, pick a new jury. Look at the message this puts on this next jury. Go this way or else, basically, because if this does go that way, if the bloodhounds do go out and try to find which guy this was, then the next jury is going to say, you know, this is, you know, just, you know, basically, I'm not willing to put myself in my family and know that risk. Nope. Nope. I don't think they're going to, I don't think they're going to retry it. Do you? Uh, yeah. I think they're going to retry it.

32:57Don't they have to? I mean, I don't know too much about it, but I thought they would just have to start over. The state, no, the state can say, that's fine. The state can, the state can say, we're done. And then she would go, if I'm not mistaken, Ricky, do you know this? I think she then goes to a mental institution. Yeah. She's already being held there. She does. She's not necessarily let out. She will probably stay in the mental health institution. But the defense attorney has already said he would love a mistrial and to retry this case. Right. I mean, a jury is a reflection of our society. And you've got a pretty crazy reflection of what that society looks like right now. And because this case has already been tried in the court of public opinion so widely, um, this guy would probably have a better shot at getting her out on the second try. Mm-hmm. And it just tells you how far we've come and fallen because there was a story of a man who claimed psychosis and killed his three kids in 2014. And it took two days for a jury to convict him as guilty and two hours to say, yeah, let's give him the death penalty.

33:57That was in 2014. I don't agree with that. I, you know, I've been seeing this go around. I don't think that's a fair comparison. The guy held the kids in his trunk of his car. They're dead bodies driving around, you know, searching online for days, how to get rid of the bodies. I mean, you know, he might have been, you know, greatly disturbed. But I don't know if you can compare that. Although I do think there's any gender bias going on in this particular case because she's a woman. In this one, yes. Yes, I do. Okay. I think this, I think the whole insanity thing has broken the other way because we're all victims now. So we've all been victimized. We all have a problem. And you know, there's one thing to say. Yes, she has a problem. But that doesn't excuse you from some level of responsibility, especially when you look at the, you know, now that it has been tried, I'll tell you my real opinion on this.

35:00And again, take it with a grain of salt because, you know, I didn't watch everything. But the stuff I saw where, you know, I mean, she was, I need to be graphic, but she had to strangle them with exercise bands. Three of them. One at a time. She, you know, she was looking at the map to see how far this, you know, CVS was, how far all these things were, how much time she called her husband in the midst of doing it. I'm sorry. It just, it, it just doesn't seem like, you know, deep psychosis. Was she crazy? Yeah. I think you have to be crazy to kill your kids. Was she, you know, having depression and everything else? Yeah. But she had never had voices. She had never mentioned that she heard voices. And then suddenly one night she hears voices. She does that. And that's it. I, I, I just, I would have been, I think I really, depending on what the rest of the material was, I think I would have been in the room going, no, mm-hmm.

36:02I'm sorry. I, I don't buy into it. I just don't buy into it. But I don't think they're going to go back and try her again. I think she's just going to go to a mental institution. And then it'll be up to the doctors who will have to decide, you know, themselves whether she is capable of getting out in some day she will. And you know, God help us. God help us. You know, I feel the same way about John Hinckley. I'm sorry. You shot the president of the United States. You should be in a mental institution the rest of time. If you were crazy, that's fine. You should be in a mental institution the rest of your life. And you kill three children. You should be in a mental institution the rest of your life. You shouldn't, you shouldn't get out. You shouldn't, I don't, I just don't think we can't trust you. You were on all kinds of medication. You talked to everybody. You fooled even your husband. They, he thought you were safe with the kids. No. I don't think so. I don't, I don't give you a second shot on that. Not that one. I don't know if we should ever give people a second shot on murder, a violent grizzly murder like that.

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39:11the Supreme Court, intervene. He wants the holdout removed or the issue resolved so they can secure a formal, a formal, not guilty by reason of insanity verdict. Rather than this, the defense attorney just said, yeah, we'll try it again. Rather than putting Lindsey Clancy through the grueling process of a completely new trial. So, he doesn't want a new trial. However, he smathers blood in the water and he's smelling. If I can get just the alternate juror to sit in for that guy, then we get not guilty by reason of insanity. So that's what he's doing. So the judge just put a stay on this for an hour to see what the Supreme Court says. The Supreme Court says, take that juror out, replace him with an alternate, then I guess that's what's gonna happen. And then you'd probably get your not guilty by reason of insanity. Either way, she's going to an asylum for a very, very, very long time. I'd like to see it be the rest of her life,

40:13but we'll watch. It is Massachusetts, God only knows what they do. And may God save the Republic. We'll see it Tuesday. We'll see it Tuesday.