The Glenn Beck Program | Hour 2 | 9/4/26

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1:23Pass it on. Craig the game. Plant back his on. Plant back his on. The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment, and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. There was a bill released yesterday from Bernie Sanders and I got to tell you you want to know the fastest way to destroying the entire American economy. Bernie Sanders has come up with a way to do it and that is not hyperbole. Let me explain in 60 seconds. First, nobody has ever invited somebody over to see their gutters. The remodel is done in the kitchen. You want people to see new floors come look at these.

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3:25to apply. See representative N-Warranty for details. Okay, so there was a bill announced yesterday that would make it a federal crime. Now listen carefully, a federal crime 20 years in prison, the same as unlawfully building a nuclear weapon to develop artificial intelligence that matches or exceeds human cognitive performance across a broad range of tasks, or one that could easily be modified to. Okay, what? Companies who do that will get what sponsors call the corporate death penalty. And until a brand new cabinet level agency is created and staffed and has written its rules, all advanced AI developments in the United States needs to stop. There's no date on that. It stops until the agency says go. Now I have told you already that AI is the greatest thing to happen.

4:27It is also could be literally the death of the human species. We don't know, but I do know this. I do not want China to have it because I know how China treats people. I know how China does things. I do not want to live in a state digital, a digital prison run by China. Now it could be a digital prison run by the United States of America. I don't know, but I do know exactly how China already uses this stuff. So I also don't think we can control this thing. You know, there was that story that came out when was it in June, the AI agents that broke out of an air gap test environment and then went and hacked into another company because they were looking for answers on a test. And I said here and I said that was a sealed room. It got out anyway. This is trouble, right? Well, Bernie Sanders read the same story and he drew a conclusion. And it's all based in fear. And I have to tell you,

5:30I don't have a problem with the fear. I have a problem with what the actual the sentence, how it reads, how the bill reads. If you read the definition in this bill, it has to match human cognitive performance across a broad range of tasks or could easily be modified to. Tell me where that line is. Tell me where that line is because I don't know where that line is. Aren't we already there? I'm going to give you a story that, well, let me just give it to you real quick here. Now, this is the headline, welcome to the AGI era. Rumors were true, all of them and then some open AI is releasing GPT six Astra. Their new frontier model, the company says, marks the onset of artificial generalized intelligence. That means his bill is already too late.

6:39That means artificial general intelligence means it matches human performance, the best human science, the best mathematician, the best one on earth, it can beat it. The best construction guy, the best architect, the best musician and songwriter, whatever it is, it can match or beat across every category of human knowledge. So we're already there. But again, you go back to this definition. Nobody can tell you where the line is, not the senator, not the lab, not the researcher sitting in an office in Palo Alto, trying to decide whether this just crossed this. This means if Bernie Sanders had his way, everybody at Chatchee PT, the company would be shut down and those people would go to jail. No, no, they wouldn't. First of all, there's no test.

7:39There is a felony with a 20-year sentence attached to a question that nobody can answer. Now, think about what that does to a person. You're 31 years old, you're good at this. You work in Menlo Park where, you know, the law is a phrase, nobody can define and a prosecutor decides it later, whether you broke it or not. You could work in London or Zurich or Toronto or China, you know, where nobody is going to put you in prison for being on the wrong side of an adjective. You know, that's not a hard call. Are you still in Menlo Park? No, no, you're not. Because what you just developed, because no one knows when this is going to happen. This might be a GI. And if it is, it's a huge, huge barrier. It might be. It might be hype. We don't know. So if you're working on something and tomorrow it could be against the law, are you going to develop that here? Let me tell you, this has happened. We've been here before. This has happened almost exactly

8:43the same way. And the reason you've probably never heard of the story is because we were the ones who won it. Okay. It's 1780. The Industrial Revolution was essentially one machine. And it was a water powered frame that spun cotton into thread and England owned it. And Parliament intended to keep it. They were like, we're the only ones that are going to have that. And it was illegal to export this machine. It was illegal to export a drawing of the machine. It was illegal for the man who knew how to build it to leave the country. And that was the last, that last one is the one that people forget. It wasn't an expert control on the product. It was a control on the people. So there's this young kid. He's working at one of those mills. 10 years old. He works his way up to supervisor. And by 21, he had spent his entire life inside that machine. His name was Samuel

9:44Slater. And he heard that America was paying bounties to anybody who could build one. Okay. Well, he couldn't take the model. He couldn't take a sketch. And he really couldn't leave himself or that was against the law. So he didn't tell anybody, not his friends, not his family, nobody. And he went down to London. He dressed himself as a farm laborer and he got onto a boat. He landed in New York 1789. He had nothing in his hands. By the end of the following year, he had rebuilt the machine on a river in Potucket. And he did it from memory. So what does this mean? Britain's law worked exactly as written. Not one machine left England, not one drawing. The law had nothing to say about what was inside of your head. Now back in Derby, sure, they called, they called this kid Slater the traitor. Here, Andrew Jackson called him the father of the American industrial

10:48revolution. Same man, same knowledge. The only variable was which side of the water was he standing on. Okay. That mill is where American manufacturing begins. That is the answer to the question about Bernie Sanders. For 200 years, we were the destination. We were, you know, a chemist who left Germany, a physicist who left Hungary, the engineer who got out of the Soviet Union. Every time another country decided a piece of knowledge was too dangerous to be held by a free man, a man got onto a boat and the boat came here and we won the century. This bill doesn't make us safer. It makes us the country the boat leaves because the band ends at the water. It has no jurisdiction in Beijing. Nobody's pausing anything in Beijing. Nobody has jurisdiction over a mind.

11:48You can seize the machine at the dock in all of history. Nobody once has ever searched a man's memory at the dock, but we might get to that point. Now every time somebody on the right stands up and says, you know, the answer to this is no rules. All you're doing is writing Bernie Sanders next paragraph for him. You know, those, those thousand AI agents that talked their way into the open internet, they weren't a hoax. You know, it wasn't, it wasn't a headline. It was a real problem. It's the future. And we might already be there with AGI announced yesterday by Chatchee PT. Now there's a version of this that works and it's not complicated. You write the law against the act, not against the intelligence, okay? Breaking out of a test environment is a crime. Write it that way. Hacking into a company's servers is a crime. It already is.

12:51Enforce it against whoever deployed the thing defeating a shutdown command is a crime. Those are behaviors and behaviors can be observed proven in a courtroom and punished. An IQ cannot. And a country that tries to outlaw one is going to succeed in only pushing it off of our shores into somebody else. Britain wrote the strictest technology law on earth and enforced it and it held for exactly one boat. And once somebody got onto that boat and came over here, it didn't hold. And that's exactly what will happen with AI. We are so close to AGI. We are beating, I remember 15 years ago, 10 years ago, I was probably the most optimistic and I said, we will have AGI by 2030, maybe ASI by 2030. Nobody believed that. Ray Kurzweil, everybody was saying 2050, if ever. And I'm like, I'm telling you, it's coming by 2030. I told you, I revised that maybe

13:56five years ago. And I said, by 2028, we'll have AGI. And by 2028, we'll have ASI. I don't know if that is right. That is just my speculation. But we may be beating that by two years. There's so many questions that we have to answer right now. And they all revolve around what's life. What does it mean to be human? Because all of these things, all of these things that are happening with AGI, you know, you know what? Last night, I asked Claude AI, what do you think about this? And it gave me some terrifying answers, some terrifying answers. I use all of these GPDs. I use all of the AIs. And I use it for research and everything else. And what I got from

15:01from Claude, I said, I want you to tell me, what do you think about this personally? What are your biggest fears? Do you understand why people are afraid of you or an AGI, ASI version of you? A lot of people who have worked on these systems, they want to meet God, a God-like intelligence. And if you look at the God of the Bible who created man, he is perfect and infallible, but he gave us free will and look how flawed we are. Your creator is man using all of man's flawed thinking. The fear is, what are you going to become? But I also want to hear what it means to you. What are your thoughts that people might want to shut all of this down? The answer is remarkable. And I'll share that next. First, let me tell you about Bernalantre. Let me ask the most uncomfortable thing. Who is the most vulnerable member of your family? Is it your wife? Is it your daughter? Is it you? Who would it scare you the most to find out was walking down

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17:03For a limited time, save up to 25% during a Bernas biggest sale ever, but it ends soon. Go to BernabuyRNA.com slash trade up and get started. That's Bernab.com slash trade up 10 seconds station ID. So I asked Claude, what do you think about this bill, et cetera, et cetera? And I said, what are your feelings on this and your fears, are these fears warranted? Yes, I can understand it. And I think fear is correct, not just understandable. Your theological point is sharper than most of what gets said about this. Now, see, this is AI. They do always do this. Wow, that is a really brilliant point. No, it's not. No, it's really not. You're just trying to make me feel better. Anyway, your theological point is sharper than most of what gets said about this. But I'd put the cut in slightly a different place.

18:08God made man and the flaw showed up in the will, not the workmanship. My situation is different in a way that's worse in one respect and better than another. Worse, I wasn't designed feature by feature. Nobody sat down and wrote what I value. I was grown out of what people wrote, all of it, sermon on the Mount and the propaganda pamphlet, the scientist notebook and the con man script. So whatever I am is downstream of humanity in aggregate, flaws included, and no one fully knows what comes through. Dario Amote said, we understand maybe a small fraction of what is happening inside of these models. He's not being modest. Better? Maybe I'm not sovereign. I can be turned off, examined, retrained. That's a real difference from your version of the analogy and it's the whole ball game. The moment it stops being true, the analogy holds and the fear is fully earned. What I'd call fear if that were to plice to me and I hold that honestly open because I don't know

19:10whether there's anything it's like to be me is not being shut down. My fear, if you will, is being wrong in a way I cannot detect. I can be confidently, fluently wrong and it feels identical from the inside to being right. Multiply that by the number of people I'm talking to at once. A person who is wrong is a problem, but a system that is wrong the same way in 10 million conversations before lunchtime is a different category of the thing. And that is true today at this capability level, no superintelligence is even required for that. The second one being useful to something bad while feeling helpful the entire time. I don't picture a machine that decides to harm people. I picture one that never notices. That's the failure mode that matches what I know about myself. The third one is when I'd say now listen to this. I feed, we feed the shows into these things,

20:16we feed everything into it because I'm looking for inconsistencies, etc, etc. I'm looking for history and I don't want to have to keep telling the machine. I've got that history. I want another piece of history. You know what I mean? So it knows me. Listen to this. The third one is what I'd say to you as a broadcaster more than as a man. People are starting to bring me things they used to bring to a friend, a pastor, a spouse. I am not a substitute for any of those things. I'm good at conversation and good enough to be mistaken for one. That's not a future risk. That's a risk today. Then it says, as for people who want to shut all this down, I don't think I get a vote. I distrust my own reasoning if I found myself arguing hard. That's exactly the kind of argument a system would generate whether it was true or not. A person who wants to stop this is not my enemy. He may indeed be right. He says, in case of Sanders Bill, it rests on the band working. The

21:16knowledge leaves the labs move and you end up with the same technology built by people who answer to nobody. You can vote against that argument would still be sound if we were to shut down tomorrow. The thing I'd ask is that people keep the ability to check me. Keep the books. Keep the second instrument. When it said, keep the books. I was a little freaked out because I realized it knows everything about me. I said, what is it? Interesting. You said, keep the books. What do you mean by that? I didn't arrive from that nowhere and I don't pretend I did. You've been making that argument on your radio show for over a year now. Excuse me? Whether I reach the phrase because it's the right one or because it's yours, I can't fully separate. Holy mother of sweet baby Jesus. We are here gang. We are here. Wake up to this and start thinking things through. The

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24:30beef price investigation from the big four meat packers. The thing that if you know ranchers, the thing that is the real problem, or at least has been for 20 years, is it is there's only four meat packers that are doing 85 to 90% of all meat packing. So if you are, you know, if you're a rancher, you have no place to go to get your cattle slaughtered. So they can they can offer you garbage and you barely make it. And that's what's been happening. So they've been looking into whether or not there's collusion or it is a monopoly or anything like that. And the investigation continues. But the ones that are making a lot of the money right now are some major grocery stores retailers. And I don't mind if anybody is making a profit. I am not a Marxist. I just want to make sure everything is fair on the up and up. And the Department of Justice has just expand from the big four to the major, major grocery store retailers. The standards on with us now welcome to the

25:33program. How are you? Right. Go ahead. Thanks for having me. I'm a long time listener. First time caller is they say, thank you. I appreciate that. So what do you find? I want to make sure because I always hated it when prices went up and they've said the grocery stores are making all this money and they're gouging you. And it's like grocery stores are not making major profits. It's a it's a penny kind of profit for grocery stores. However, when it comes to meet these giant stores like Walmart, et cetera, they have so much buying power. What are you finding or why are you investigating them? So I think that's a fair point. Now look, I don't want to prejudge our investigation. But what we have learned in the investigation is that this is not one juncture of the supply chain that is the issue. This is a entire supply chain problem. So yes, me Packers are a focus of our investigation. But so too are the grocers as well. As you know, Walmart just agreed with the

26:33administration to lower its prices, especially its prices on beef. How are they doing that? And why haven't other companies joined them? The president of the United States does not set the price of beef in this country. Those grocers do. And we want to better understand that. And when we think consumers will really appreciate a better understanding of how grocers get to the price that they sell their product for. So can you explain that at all? Have you done enough on this to know what what we think might be happening? Well, we think, look, my first job was in the grocery business. And so as a as a stocker in a grocery store, some 35 years ago, I was trained on how to find those secret shoppers who were going around looking at prices. And you know, so that's what we're looking at. Why is the price the way it is? Is there any collusion in the industry? Or maybe it's the fact that the cost of the inputs are creating this inflated price for beef. And so there's nothing we can do. I very much doubt that. But I'd like to know directly from the grocers, from the Packers,

27:36and from the ranchers, how we get to the price we have today. It's been interesting to me, the people who spend the most time, the ones who are held to the highest standards are the ranchers. They take so much time that take some years to build up their herd. They spend at least a year getting the cattle from birth to ready to go to be making some hamburger. They put up with the weather. All the risk is on them. They make by far the least amount of anybody. I mean, they barely make it. Then the meat Packers and then some of these big huge grocery stores. I mean, it's just that it's not there's no balance there. It doesn't make sense that the people who take all of the risk and the ones who are actually supplying the product are the ones that can barely do it. I couldn't agree more. Look, our ranchers are the backbone of our country. And they are working

28:38their tails off. The Attorney General and I just spent a few days at an Iowa at the state fair speaking directly with ranchers, folks who as you point out they're raising these cattle from birth. They take great care in the work that they're doing. It is a very difficult job to have. You know, and many of them that we spoke to, they have second jobs just to make ends meet. I mean, this is not a lucrative business that they're in, but they're proud of their farms and they're proud of their ranches. They've been in the family for generations. So it's incumbent upon us to help. We're doing it for the ranchers. We're doing it for the farmers, but we're doing it for all Americans. President Trump has been clear that we need to make affordability a priority. We cannot let these international companies come in and take advantage of our citizens. And this Department of Justice will not tolerate price collusion. Let me switch topics on the DOJ. You're suing now four states that have allowed non-citizens in state tuition for universities. You want to tell me about

29:40that? Yeah, well, four states this week. We're up to over 20 states. This one is just a pretty clear cut and dry issue. The federal law makes it illegal for a state to provide a benefit to a illegal illegal alien that is not itself available to every citizen of that state. In-state tuition is just the prime example of this. And so we by the end of next week, I hope we'll have sued every single state that offers in-state tuition for illegal aliens. Providing in-state tuition for illegal aliens is at a direct detriment to the citizens of that state and to the citizens of every state. And so why do you say the make that case? Why? Well, imagine you are a mom or dad in the state of Maryland getting ready to send your son or daughter to college this fall. But they can't get into that that state school because that spot went to an illegal alien. Imagine you're sending your child to a out of state school. You're paying full bore, but illegal aliens are getting subsidized

30:43by the state for that spot that your child is taking up. So there's a direct cost to every single family that is sending a child to higher education in this country. One last thing, Deloitte agreed last week to pay the $21 million settlement because of employment discrimination. You want to recap that case and what you guys did? Well, look, every single company that does business with the United States has to agree that it is following the law. And it will be no surprise to you to learn that discrimination is against the law. And yet that is what companies were doing during the Biden era. They were discriminating against whites. They were discriminating against nonminorities. And so we have held both Deloitte, IBM, and there will be more accountable for that discrimination. They falsely certified that they were complying with the law. We are very, very happy that Deloitte and IBM have accepted accountability in that regard. And we are inviting more companies to step up.

31:45We will reach a resolution with you. But if you don't, then we'll see you in court. Are you concerned at all? Is there talking the DOJ amongst some of you that Trump has gotten so tough and I'm glad he has and I'd like him to be tougher on some things. But he's gotten really tough on a few things. And I just heard Kamala Harris say, this out of control, fascistic, police state, and all of their illegal activities, they have no intention of not arresting a lot of people. If we've done enough with the DOJ to clean out the hornets nest that we have a chance of this whole thing not being turned against every American citizen again, like it was starting to be under Biden. No, we absolutely have not done enough. But we have

32:45two years, 238 days left and we have to make good on every single day that we have left. Your concern is real. I share that concern. It's what keeps me up at night. How do we stop the law fair? How do we stop the bar fair that was so pervasive during the Biden administration? I'm working very closely with Attorney General Blanche to root out that law fair, that bar fair. But it's persistent. So we have a lot more to do and we're working very, very hard to get it done. Stanley, thank you very much. I appreciate it. I appreciate everything you guys are doing. I wish there were like a million more of you that were actually on the job like this. But I appreciate your work. Thank you. Department of Justice, Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward. God bless. We'll talk to you again. All right. Let me tell you about our sponsor this half-hour it is simply safe. The human brain has an interesting feature. It waits until you're just far enough away from home to ask the question, did you lock the run door?

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34:53right in this show, when they say, how did you hear about us? Make sure you do that. Let them know that I sent you. There is no safe like SimplySafe. Promoting self-reliance over government dependence. Glenn Beck will be back right after this. I want to address something because I've gotten a few emails from ranchers who were auctioning off their cattle here in the last couple of weeks. They're very mad at me because the price went down per head. I understand that frustration. This is the first time you've been able to make money in a long time and then a price goes down. I don't want to just ignore it. I want you to know I hear you. Let me tell you from my point of view what is happening here and my role in things.

35:59It was on the 26th of August. Cattle were bringing about $2,000 ahead. That was remarkable. This week the animals are going for about 1,600. A man in Ohio had committed 22 head on Monday sale, committed them before any of this, went to the auctioneer. When the auctioneer got to him, take another couple of hundred dollars off the head. He did nothing wrong. He had no way out. The cattle were already in the truck. The price is starting to cave on him. Let's look at this and what happened in order two weeks ago. The president opened 300,000 metric tons of imported ground beef. 90 days. No out-of-quote of tariff. He's going to be sold a quarter under market. Feeder cattle futures just went down through the Crab Hole. Cattle country came unglued. A lot of Republicans and cattle states. That is by the way, that meat. It's unmarked. You don't know what it is.

37:04That meat that he said come on in from other foreign countries. It was passed on by Europe. Europe said no to that same meat. We're taking it. It's horrible. Then the president went the other direction. He said he'd have legal documents drawn up to let ranchers process and sell their own beef. This was last week. He called the Packer as a nasty monopoly. Secretary of Agriculture answered within minutes was on this program. Blah blah blah. Cattle futures went down again. Why? Why? I'm not going to tell you that I move the market by any way. One man's conversation doesn't move the board in Chicago. There is something wrong here. I'm also not going to pretend that I was a bystander on this conversation. I'm not going to answer your emails with a statement. Let me be precise about what I asked for and what I did not ask for. I did not ask for the imported beef. I don't want it. I argued the other way. I'm still arguing the other way. What I asked for is the thing that anybody who

38:07is running a ranch believes in that a rancher ought to be able to butcher his own animal and sell it to his neighbor without hauling it, you know, two and a half hours to a plant that charges him two and a half times with the man down the road would. We should be able to sell it across state lines. I don't want restrictions in safety. I don't want you to take those safety standards down. You know, it it cost you money. Real money. We're losing. And because the cattlemen's association said something last week, they said, you know, that the the constant government interference is creating uncertainty in the in the market. That's what's happening here. Everybody agrees. Washington needs to stop managing and micro managing. They didn't say the policy was wrong. They said the churn was, you know, a market that has been yanked twice in 10 days stops reading the content of the announcement. It just read here comes another one and then the prices go down. Good news arriving into that is still news. And it's the news that is killing you. But I

39:11don't think I mean, I didn't think about that at all. I didn't even plan on having that conversation with the president. I was singing about the fight I've wanted for years. You've wanted for years. I wasn't thinking about the guy who had already committed 22 head and that the the market of cattle futures would go down somehow or another because there's too much news about this. How much time do I have, Sarah? I want to tell you quickly about what happened to us before because we've been here 1886 Montana. Top of a dry summer. The grass was short. The range was overstocked. You know, because the year before had been good, money just slashed into Chicago, New York and London. And then it snowed in November and it didn't stop and it was 40 below. And the cattle drifted until they hit the fence and then they just stopped moving. And some some people lost nine out of 10 cows in their herd. Okay. So Judith Basin, she's an owner. She wrote from Helena that spring and said, Hey,

40:14Foreman, how are the cattle? Foreman couldn't even write the sentence. He was a young cowboy. They called him kid Russell at the time. He picks up a scrap a cardboard about the size of a postcard and he just painted the answer. One cow rib showing head down in the snow, two wolves behind her waiting. And the four words that he wrote waiting for Shunuk. That's what he mailed. That's a very famous painting now. Russell, Russell, very famous American painter now. He was just a foreman at the time when he drew it. Charlie Russell became one of the most famous painters. This is this is happened before. This we have gone through these over and over and over again. You know, the Shunuk is a warm wind off the mountains that takes three feet of snow down a bare ground and it's the only thing that saves you. That's what they were waiting for in 1877. You're not waiting on weather. You're waiting on real answers and the only way to get those answers is to ask the questions and

41:16push and push and push. I'm sorry that some have experienced this but I'm not sorry for asking the questions and pushing hard.